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I know this is a question but there is no Vibrant Q&A forum so i decided to post it here.
But to elaborate on my question, Sense has a deep integration with the vanilla android system, the framework is heavily modified and its hard and some say impossible to use a lot of things from sense on non-sense roms. So I was wondering, is touchwiz integrated that deeply over android? I heard the 2.2 Update to this phone would make it easier for samsung to make updates so I dont think it is as deep as sense, but I wanna know for sure because i think itd be cool if we could mix certain aspects of vanilla with touchwiz. Like if we could remove the bottom 4 shortcut apps, add a vanilla lockscreen, vanilla music widget and app, but still maintain the functionality of touchwiz such as the notification pull down with the integrated settings toggle and music controls.
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This one might be easier than you think.
pretty sure they want this is General Q&A, you can use LauncherPro Beta, or ADW, which will give you the Vanilla Home style, however no samsung widgets, they suck anyways. your contacts will still integrate with twitter and fuk face, i mean face fuk, i mean face book...sorry. Buy Beautiful widgets and LockBot Pro from Market and your all set. mostly.
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pretty sure they want this is General Q&A, you can use LauncherPro Beta, or ADW, which will give you the Vanilla Home style, however no samsung widgets, they suck anyways. your contacts will still integrate with twitter and fuk face, i mean face fuk, i mean face book...sorry. Buy Beautiful widgets and LockBot Pro from Market and your all set. mostly.
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well it has some development implications and gives ideas to rom developers too so idk if a mod is irritated by this post i dont mind if its moved to general lol.
yeah Im aware of all those apps and those launchers, but I was wondering if there was a way to integrate the samsung apps with vanilla android, and use the stock vanilla lockscreen and music widgets into an actual rom.
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well it has some development implications and gives ideas to rom developers too so idk if a mod is irritated by this post i dont mind if its moved to general lol.
yeah Im aware of all those apps and those launchers, but I was wondering if there was a way to integrate the samsung apps with vanilla android, and use the stock vanilla lockscreen and music widgets into an actual rom.
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truth be told i don't even care, so why did i say something in the first place...i'm an asshole...hopefully i can call myself an asshole...anywho, I agree, like some things about the touch**** i mean touchwiz, and the stock build. i would like to add some sense in there too...mix it all up and hopefully wind up with cm6.
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truth be told i don't even care, so why did i say something in the first place...i'm an asshole...hopefully i can call myself an asshole...anywho, I agree, like some things about the touch**** i mean touchwiz, and the stock build. i would like to add some sense in there too...mix it all up and hopefully wind up with cm6.
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lmao haha it aint a big deal haha
yeah touchwiz and stock mixed would be nice and i think CM6 could do that but idk abt the sense stuff. maybe well have sense roms but not from cyanogen and idk if itd be possible to mix sense with anything really, plus i dont like sense phones or roms because of their lack of bluetooth functionality. I bought the vibrant cuz i wanna use the wiimote via bluetooth to play my snes gba and sega games on my tv lol
TW Launcher blows, so use ADW - which incorporates TW and Sense - def the best Home replacement. U wont be missing the Samsung Widgets, they ****in suck.
The TW Lockscreen is amazing, dont know why u want to use the original. It is like the Sense LS that displays info, like the music app, which btw is the BEST out of all music players, including 3 (cubed). The puzzle lock is so cool too, looks rly nice (that feature can be turned off btw). And ability to swipe the LS in any direction to unlock is a pleasure to use.
As mentioned in other threads... The "proper" way to lable this is [prj] and then the project description... But I also don't really care, we need some mods to help out this form, especially cuz its a brand new phone
On a Vibrant, using this app-thingy
I hate to start a new thread, but I'm sure I am not the only one that wants to request a Galaxy S build. Preferably Vibrant, but Captivate would work too.
I hope devs look into this as IMO the Vibrant's Touch wiz interface would give everyone something different to look at. I personally like it over Stock, and MOST definitely over Sense.
Just a thought...
I'm hoping that there will be an end to the many slightly different versions of sense and hope we will see galaxy s, droid, streak builds looked into soon.
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Hmm!
I think that we may not need a build for this but an .apk for Touchwiz that we can install over a Clean Stock Rom.
I noticed one on the forum a while ago.
If this is of course what you are meaning:I never had a Galaxy S before and don't know what else it got.
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Hmm!
I think that we may not need a build for this but an .apk for Touchwiz that we can install over a Clean Stock Rom.
I noticed one on the forum a while ago.
If this is of course what you are meaning:I never had a Galaxy S before and don't know what else it got.
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it was an incomplete .apk which only gave you the launcher
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it was an incomplete .apk which only gave you the launcher
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I do remember it was only about 2 ~ 3 mb and considering the size maybe a lot of things where removed to make it compatible with other devices.
Ok,I will Google a little to see what's the Galaxy S got
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Found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTQVRCC8xiA
why do you prefer the Samsung software over the all mighty sense UI !!!
al mighty? the sense ui is hideous. For me personally, i cant stand having a 240dpi on a 4.3" screen. Even though 180 sounds worse, thats the setting we change it to for icons to seem like the actually fit on the screen.
Also, why do we need 10 versions of Sense? Why not have the option for the TouchWiz interface. It's fresh and something new to look at. Plus, there are little things like the lockscreen, when if you have missed calls or messages, you drag a puzzle piece into the blank spot that matches what you want to instantly view when you unlock it.
their widgets are also very nice. anywho, i would just enjoy something different. And others would too.
I agree to what he said
agreed it would be a nice change of pace, always good to see something new.
just my opinion...
plus i know the vibrant has an incredibly high frame rate
well.. i had a galaxy S... the first thing done was to use launcherpro and get rid of that hideous touchwiz!
check the forums of those devices... people are asking for vanilla or sense roms
I had a Vibrant, touchwiz was the laggiest piece of software I've used and changed the whole android experience.
i want this cant wait to somebody pull this out there hats
Does anyone have a copy of the touch whiz .apk
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al mighty? the sense ui is hideous. For me personally, i cant stand having a 240dpi on a 4.3" screen. Even though 180 sounds worse, thats the setting we change it to for icons to seem like the actually fit on the screen.
Also, why do we need 10 versions of Sense? Why not have the option for the TouchWiz interface. It's fresh and something new to look at. Plus, there are little things like the lockscreen, when if you have missed calls or messages, you drag a puzzle piece into the blank spot that matches what you want to instantly view when you unlock it.
their widgets are also very nice. anywho, i would just enjoy something different. And others would too.
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To be fair on both sides , the new Sense on Desire HD has lower dpi for menus, etc so it looks much much cleaner ... and since HTC seems to have recognized that aspect I am sure in future the launcher and widgets will also be improved
+1 , i would deffinatly donate, the main reason i want a captivate/vibrant rom is for the video player! my friends vibrant video player plays a 480p .avi video flawlessly, while my hd2 plays it terribly while looking all blurry, but on my friends vibrant its sharp, i know theres a screen size diffrence but still it shouldnt make the movie look that much worse.
and im thinking the problem may be the media player cuz the ones ive tried dont go full screen like the vibrants
I sold my galaxy s for my hd2 and am so pleased I did as I now get to run sense ui or nexus builds. touch wiz was terrible iphone like and laggy. you can download some of the widgets from the galaxy s forum section but they are not a patch on htc sense widgets. The only good thing about the galaxy s build was its camera app
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well.. i had a galaxy S... the first thing done was to use launcherpro and get rid of that hideous touchwiz!
check the forums of those devices... people are asking for vanilla or sense roms
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Exactly, once you actually use it, its terribly laggy and not very well put together. I can't blame you for wanting something new but I think everyone would get sick of it quick.
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Does anyone have a copy of the touch whiz .apk
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Some launchers I've collected from users here on XDA. The "Launcher2" is the 7-homescreen T-Mobile G2 launcher....exactly like the Nexus One launcher but with 7 screens instead of 5. You will need to remove the cooked-in launcher to install all but the TouchWiz launcher. Using Astro file manager, nav to the "System" > "App" folder and locate the launcher and delete it. Then do a reboot. *You will need to install Launcher Pro in the interim to have a launcher at bootup.*
You will want to make a backup of the whole Android build prior to deleting the cooked-in launcher in case the chosen one doesn't install.
The LG zips contain various widgets which will install even if the launcher doesn't.
i dont get it. lower dpi makes it crisp?!
less pixels per inch = better image?
im really confused.
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i dont get it. lower dpi makes it crisp?!
less pixels per inch = better image?
im really confused.
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The below explanation is based on what I was able to recall from good ol college days
WVGA Res - 480 pixels x 800 pixels
Screen Size - Whatever the HD2 has (too lazy to check )
Anyways the above 2 are fixed parameters. Now what dpi means literally is pixels per inch (lets not go into more details here)
So if you fit more pixel in a single inch of screen, effectively your widgets get less space on the screen to fit into. (DPI 240)
And if you put less pixels, the same widgets fit in less amount of space in screen so it looks like a higher res (DPI 180/200)
I hope I was able to convey what I meant
Nexus one unlocked bootloader, running RA1.8 recovery, already have the 1.9a downloaded to flash but I'm kinda stuck on what to do
I love and currently use K-o-R CM based ROM...
but I wanna get something sense UI based for the htc widgets.. bought beautiful widgets and don't like it as much. its buggy, and just kinda sucky in general - wish I could refund....
Thing is, I dont like sense ui cus i can't add rows/columns to home screen launcher..
Ideas?
Download Launcher Pro, and donate to unlock Pro features - which are Sense-like widgets.
Nothing to do with ROM.
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Download Launcher Pro, and donate to unlock Pro features - which are Sense-like widgets.
Nothing to do with ROM.
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I have launcher Pro Plus....the donate thing
other than friend stream, nothing from sense
Calendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook? Or they're not enough "Sense-like"?
In that case, just install a Sense ROM. You can't get both worlds. Sense is closed source, changes in Rosie launcher are way too hard.
Of course, if you don't like it, you could try to reverse engineer the Rosie code and have your way with it.
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Calendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook? Or they're not enough "Sense-like"?
In that case, just install a Sense ROM. You can't get both worlds. Sense is closed source, changes in Rosie launcher are way too hard.
Of course, if you don't like it, you could try to reverse engineer the Rosie code and have your way with it.
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lol reverse engineering is something I might do because I want it so bad. Unfortunately I just realized the downfall of my request... reverse engineering is usually not allowed.
Well, I guess I'll try to work the launcher pro widgets since i paid for them... i didn tcheck the calander widget from lpp
Sense for widgets? Seems like you want a weather widget. try beautiful widgets...no longer in the market but im sure an apk is around.
On another note, try evil's sense Roms.
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Sense for widgets? Seems like you want a weather widget. try beautiful widgets...no longer in the market but im sure an apk is around.
On another note, try evil's sense Roms.
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The flip clock isn't even the biggest one, I purchased Weather Widgets donate and it has an H7C skin that looks just the way I want - given it still looks like garbage - its close enough for the look. Functionality wise it isn't even close though.
I would keep on using eViL's Sense ROM but quite frankly its just inferior to the KOR pack I've been using. It so much slower, things crash a lot more for no apparent reason - not really stable, hotspots and camera have been broken for a long time now and he hasn't fixed it
Enomther supposedly had a SENSE ROM but I only found "TheOfficial" Nexus One and flashed it... yeah, NOT a sense ROM. Skinned similar to one, but its not a sense rom - has none of the stuff I've mentioned
Try this fancy widget. Its exactly like the HTC sense weather and clock. HTC made them take it off the market.
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The flip clock isn't even the biggest one, I purchased Weather Widgets donate and it has an H7C skin that looks just the way I want - given it still looks like garbage - its close enough for the look. Functionality wise it isn't even close though.
I would keep on using eViL's Sense ROM but quite frankly its just inferior to the KOR pack I've been using. It so much slower, things crash a lot more for no apparent reason - not really stable, hotspots and camera have been broken for a long time now and he hasn't fixed it
Enomther supposedly had a SENSE ROM but I only found "TheOfficial" Nexus One and flashed it... yeah, NOT a sense ROM. Skinned similar to one, but its not a sense rom - has none of the stuff I've mentioned
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I don't see how bad evil's sense rom is. If you are talking about his Desire HD port then maybe (I haven't tried it yet). But his normal Desire port is not even remotely close to slow and unstable.
In fact out of all the roms I have flashed for N1, I have yet to find a rom that is really slow and unstable.
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I don't see how bad evil's sense rom is. If you are talking about his Desire HD port then maybe (I haven't tried it yet). But his normal Desire port is not even remotely close to slow and unstable.
In fact out of all the roms I have flashed for N1, I have yet to find a rom that is really slow and unstable.
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Yeah I think it was his Desire HD port, it was labeled as (WIP)?? Assuming that might have something to do with it. If you read the thread tons of ppl whining bout the same problems
Did you try a specific ROM w/ sense that WAS good? Mind direct linking me to the thread so I can try it out?
I went back to KOR.. kinda sad that I don't have the awesome HTC widgets tho, the email one I really liked - Launcher Pro has no replacement for it. I use work email a lot with my job so something as simple as a very nice activesync app goes a long way for me. I get about 100 emails a day...
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Try this fancy widget. Its exactly like the HTC sense weather and clock. HTC made them take it off the market.
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I will give it a try, thank you
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Yeah I think it was his Desire HD port, it was labeled as (WIP)?? Assuming that might have something to do with it. If you read the thread tons of ppl whining bout the same problems
Did you try a specific ROM w/ sense that WAS good? Mind direct linking me to the thread so I can try it out?
I went back to KOR.. kinda sad that I don't have the awesome HTC widgets tho, the email one I really liked - Launcher Pro has no replacement for it. I use work email a lot with my job so something as simple as a very nice activesync app goes a long way for me. I get about 100 emails a day...
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Well...for Sense ROMs I would still suggest evil's...some people seem to have mounting issues during flashing so maybe a previous version
I agree LPP needs a email widget Too bad there's currently no plans on new widgets
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Well...for Sense ROMs I would still suggest evil's...some people seem to have mounting issues during flashing so maybe a previous version
I agree LPP needs a email widget Too bad there's currently no plans on new widgets
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I'll see if I can bug the dev a bit for an email app.. I might nandroid backup my current install and try out one of evil's sense roms again and see if it actually works this time around.. That will have to be later tho, I need to have full access to my phone in the coming week for work
I would recomend going over to the Nexus One Rom Bible thread. just look there for what kind of rom you need
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788058
since i saw some thread saying it can be rooted, means that we can flash it to a new rom say like HTC sense UI? (if there's any)
i like sense ui better than touchwiz, so i probably want one if it exist
would be appreciated if anybody knows a link to the rom also
I do not know of any roms for the tab yet.
Regarding sence i seriously doubt there will be a rom in the future since its not supposed to run on the tabs resolution. It wouldnt feel right anyways without beeing optimized fot tablet use, the widgets would be ridiculously big (tried with launcher pro widgets) (-:
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Sense would be fugly on the Tab :|
lol, fugly is it?
somehow i still see this one as a huge smartphone than a tab, yet
unless maybe the release of gingerbread will make it feels like a tablet more
anyway, the more the merrier
it wouldnt kill for someone to actually develop a different rom for 7inch tab, or maybe after htc actually release one of his own htc tab
thanks anyway ^^
Before we get custom ROMs, someone needs to work out how to get a custom bootloader and/or recovery onto the device so we can write to the lowlevel filesystem. As of yet, this hasn't happened.
If you want Sense then I suggest getting LauncherPro Plus as their widgets are very similar to the Sense ones. You can also track down a copy of the .APK for "LovelyWidgets" which is a clone of the HTC flipclock. You won't get the in-app changes, but you can make the launcher look a lot like Sense at least.
Also, seeing how much work it takes people to port Sense between extremely similar devices (HTC Desire & the Nexus One for example), there would be a lot more work involved porting it to an unfamiliar system with a screen resolution that AFAIK doesn't exist on any other Sense-based devices, so as well as porting things, they'd need to rescale some of the graphics to make them fit which might not look too pretty.
If you want Sense, then you might wanna either wait until someone _maybe_ ports it, or until HTC release a tablet of their own, which is surely just a matter of time.
ah, i see
is launcher pro gonna affect my original system and i have to root my tab 1st to make it usable?
does it works well on 7" and tab res?
i'll google about launcher pro and see what they looks like, thanks
The pro plus widgets are pretty ugly as well. In any case, something will come along shortly, just you wait.
well, since i failed to get my galaxy tab today, i'll wait for sure lol
only 1000 unit sold for today only and the line is up to car parking area, geez
gonna wait for when it touch the stores then
bad luck
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ah, i see
is launcher pro gonna affect my original system and i have to root my tab 1st to make it usable?
does it works well on 7" and tab res?
i'll google about launcher pro and see what they looks like, thanks
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No, you don't have to root your Tab to use LP. Just download it from the Market (when Google get's down from their high chair and fixes it so you can actually USE it...) and install. It doesn't replace anything. If you don't select default home, you can even switch between LP and TouchWiz with the Home button.
IMO, the LP widgets look good on the Tab, not "fugly" at all. I'm happy using LP+ as it is, but it will be better when LP manages to support the Tab more fully (using 5x5, 5x6 or perhaps even 6x7 grid of icons?)
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IMO, the LP widgets look good on the Tab, not "fugly" at all. I'm happy using LP+ as it is, but it will be better when LP manages to support the Tab more fully (using 5x5, 5x6 or perhaps even 6x7 grid of icons?)
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Can't you just increase the number of Rows & Columns in the settings?
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Can't you just increase the number of Rows & Columns in the settings?
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Yes, infact I can. I tried that on the SGS and it looked horrible so I didn't try it on the Tab. However, after another member suggested that also, I tried and it isn't that bad. Infact it looks quite good and I'm now using a 6x5 grid on my Tab. So, thanks for the suggestion to the two of you
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Have you guys tried to change the LCD density on the tab? It makes everything smaller and gives it a high res look. That might look really good on the tab. On the galaxy s you can get rootexplorer and edit /system/build.prop there is a setting "ro.sf.lcd_density=240". When lowered to 180 or 200 on the galaxy s it makes it feel like a tablet and makes changing the rows and columns to something like 5x6 look alot nicer. One of y'all with the Tab should try it out and post back.
Oh yea you have to reboot after edit as well.
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Here, since so many of you are whining about it so much, do it here.
I don't hate it, just bored of all the comments.
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Here, since so many of you are whining about it so much, do it here.
I don't hate it, just bored of all the comments.
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Hardly any if us hate it, we just want choice, pointless thread.
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well at least you could use this thread to talk about the choice you want instead of every other bloody thread being filled with crap
Grr @ touchwiz
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I really don't know why you hate touchwiz. To be honest I like it and I'm using it since I bought my galaxy s2. I've tried out
Adw launcher and go launcher ex but every time I went back to touchwiz. Go launcher ex was quiet fine but it took more battery than touchwiz. Don't
Know why the whole hate about the stock launcher.
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Way you hate tw?
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guys , we always goin to have TW at ours samsung devices , at ICS at blla blla version , everytime TW will be there , so deal with it !
TouchWiz is a pretty good launcher. There is one thing that I don't like about it though; If I use another launcher, the TwLauncher itself, the animated wallpaper and all the widgets I have placed on it will load on boot and they will sync, even if I don't use the launcher. This causes battery drain and CPU load.
The only work around, I have fount, is to disable it with Autostarts. This is not an ideal solution because it requires root and may void warrenty.
There's maybe 1% of users hating TW, but there's no hate going on.
Probably you want to point to the "yuck, TW4 over ICS" threads.
We still like TW, but not in the current form. Old TW with the new ICS don't make a good marriage. Let's say that the current version is outdated.
Not a fan of Touchwiz myself, before I rooted I had no other option but to use it because other launchers gave me problems. I miss Launcher Pro and I even paid for that thing, but it killed my battery too son and it distorted your wallpaper when you rotated.
Now I'm happy with everything Cyanogenmod's giving me.
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TouchWiz is a pretty good launcher. There is one thing that I don't like about it though; If I use another launcher, the TwLauncher itself, the animated wallpaper and all the widgets I have placed on it will load on boot and they will sync, even if I don't use the launcher. This causes battery drain and CPU load.
The only work around, I have fount, is to disable it with Autostarts. This is not an ideal solution because it requires root and may void warrenty.
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rule number 1 of changing launchers
remove everything from all screens of previous launcher. No quite sure why you would need to root your phone to perform such a simple task. If youre not using that launcher why are you keeping all your widgets on it?
TW best launcher, smoothest by far.
Grown fond of Touchwiz. Was previously a Sense user with HTC phones and didn't like TW, but i'm so used to it now.
So? why don't you tell this to samsung then? this isn't a confession threat..
get another launcher, problem solved..
Did any one maybe think that they're just using touch wiz in their build of ics just for testing purposes? To be honest if they would just let us change the theme or sort the damn app drawer etc I would be happy! However if go launcher enables hardware acceleration in the future I'll probably never use touch wiz anyway...that's the beauty of Android...we can choose
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I just got my SGS2 2 weeks before. Previously I used an HTC Desire HD with Sense 3.5.
I don't hate TW, but I defenetly don't like it. Sense is just so much easier to use, and has many many good, new ideas. TW is very much iOS like, just like the SGS2 with the one physical button on the bottom. Keyboard and camera app is very good, but the dialer, message app, the lockscreen, the iOS like launcher and app drawer... I just don't like them.
Then there's the mounting. You plug an HTC to your PC and it offers to charge only, mount, usb theter your net, and you can make one default or you can get the screen every time. First time I tried to mount my SGS2 to my PC, I just couldn't find out, I had to search the net, how to do it! Samsung has so much to learn from HTC about software, and HTC should learn a lot about hardware from Samsung.
It's good to have this thread : ) I had to let it get out of myself
I think:
first of all, the "omg i hatez touch wiz" comments started going again when everybody saw the first leaked ICS rom from Samsung that had TW over ICS. While Im not sure, one of the biggest reasons people (and me included) hate it is that it makes your phone look almost the same as now. And people like to look at their phone and see "yes I haz the Ice Cream I haz the power today!!!" :>
At the moment for me, it's ICS Launcher > TW Launcher > everything else.
I made a ICS "wannabe" yesterday with Go Launcher and it looked good, except I still prefer TW launcher. The App drawer in TW is something I like, its simple and fast. Overall TW is simple and fast. Its just that since I have seen ICS, TW has fallen on the second place.
Just like a made the switch from HTC Sense to ASOP after about half a year on the HTC Desire, I think I will make the jump on the SGS2 to a good working ICS ASOP rom.
Hate it with a passion! Frezze it all the time .
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
used GO Launcher since day1. Maybe i was just used to it.
Hey PPL
On samsung galaxy s2 there is no other launcher smoother than touchwiz
I am bored of Touchwiz too but i keep coming back to it due to its smoothness.
The closer to touchwiz is QQLauncher Pro but most of its menus are in chinese
I hope samsung will update Touchwiz soon before releasing ICS.
Does anyone know what happened to Launcher PrO Why is it dead?