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Brick

Brick is the slang term for an electronic device which cannot function (or has been rendered useless by damaged firmware). This comes from the fact that the device in question can be considered only as useful as a brick, and little else. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick...

Haha lol I know a few ppl that can only use their devices as bricks lol...

It should be added that if you can fix the device (by reflashing it or whatever), then it's not truly bricked.

athompson said:
It should be added that if you can fix the device (by reflashing it or whatever), then it's not truly bricked.
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Any brick is fixable technically.
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ArianaGrande said:
Any brick is fixable technically.
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Not all. What you are referring to is a soft brick. A hard brick has no coming back.
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boborone said:
Not all. What you are referring to is a soft brick. A hard brick has no coming back.
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Still not true. On my device's forums (HTC One S), hard bricks are being fixed by JIG boxes and J-Tagging the device. So it is still possible.

kylepont said:
Still not true. On my device's forums (HTC One S), hard bricks are being fixed by JIG boxes and J-Tagging the device. So it is still possible.
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Still not true. Not all devices haves JTAG. And don't argue semantics. On the general, hard bricks, by very nature of the name, have no recovery. And soft bricks do.
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boborone said:
Still not true. Not all devices haves JTAG. And don't argue semantics. On the general, hard bricks, by very nature of the name, have no recovery. And soft bricks do.
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I just stumbled upon this, hah! I can't believe this debate about the correct usage of "bricked" was going on even back then (2013 apparently). To me it is obvious that a bricked device is, and will always be, non-functioning. The term "paperweight" has also been around for a *long* time.
If it is "bricked" it is dead, period. There is no such thing "soft-bricked". It's like saying someone is kinda' dead. They either are dead or are they not dead.
Hmm, do zombie-esque terms apply here? [emoji4]
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TiTiB said:
I just stumbled upon this, hah! I can't believe this debate about the correct usage of "bricked" was going on even back then (2013 apparently). To me it is obvious that a bricked device is, and will always be, non-functioning. The term "paperweight" has also been around for a *long* time.
If it is "bricked" it is dead, period. There is no such thing "soft-bricked". It's like saying someone is kinda' dead. They either are dead or are they not dead.
Hmm, do zombie-esque terms apply here? [emoji4]
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I think everyone in android has it easy. WinMo and before, Motorola and Nokia devices, if you messed up, you were ****ed. You had a brick.
I also think bd needs to be added to the definition of a brick.

boborone said:
I think everyone in android has it easy. WinMo and before, Motorola and Nokia devices, if you messed up, you were ****ed. You had a brick.
I also think bd needs to be added to the definition of a brick.
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Soft brick: can fix, bootloader, download mode or recovery are still accessible....
Hard brick: device is kill.... No power on.... You're screwed, enjoy your new paperweight...
My definition of a brick and arguably the most important

^^ and she throws em BTW, ^^
Don't piss her off

TiTiB said:
It's like saying someone is kinda' dead. They either are dead or are they not dead.
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Comas are the definition of kinda dead..

boborone said:
^^ and she throws em BTW, ^^
Don't piss her off
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While you're sleeping, so you wont even know it's coming.

2008, wow!

[Bricked] Did the most stupid thing ever....

hey guys, you probably know me im not a noob but i honestly did the most stupid thing ever... i was having problems with my radio image, it was showing as unknown under settings/about phone so i had no signal at all. I went to fastboot and erased radio then flashed it again, rebooted and got the same... theen i thought it was spl related, so i went to fastboot again erased everything (fastboot erase system -w) then erased hboot (yeah i know im an idiot) and then erased/flashed radio (here comes the good part, laugh if you want) when it was done flashing radio I F*CKING TURNED THE PHONE OFF so now im bricked... i have no spl or recovery or fastboot or rom or anything... maybe radio xD.... and im sooo upsad, you have no idea guys... so i think thats it for me and android since i dont have money to buy a new phone right now. just keep the forum up, this is by far the best forum there is, the best devs, great comunnity and awesome support from everybody. maybe ill be steping by to see if i can help anyone, maybe they wont take my advice since i bricked my s**t but thats up to you n_n... im gonna go cry now peace..

Wow. Seen u on here a few times before. Familiar with the name. That sucks bro. Sorry. I won't laugh. What a shame
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Yes, you're an idiot, thanks for clogging up the development section with this...

AdrianK said:
Yes, you're an idiot, thanks for clogging up the development section with this...
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im just saying goodbye and thank you to the forum and everyone that i helped and helped me, people that are not rude for no reason... and just telling what happened... thats it. take care man, and respect other people.

ADrianK...... dont be an arse. "Clogging up" the dev section but you took the time to troll?
@Op, do some research you just might be able to find a way to unbrick it... someone has to know how i mean the hardware isnt made with these systems on them, or are they installed via magic wand? Cant hurt to try what can you do.... brick it again?
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EdTeach1680 said:
ADrianK...... dont be an arse. "Clogging up" the dev section but you took the time to troll?
@Op, do some research you just might be able to find a way to unbrick it... someone has to know how i mean the hardware isnt made with these systems on them, or are they installed via magic wand? Cant hurt to try what can you do.... brick it again?
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there is a way, is called JTAG but I dont feel like buying that adapter to go ahead and dissasemble the g1. I could end up with a bricked phone in pieces, $20 down and a useless JTAG adapter. I think im giving up if there not a way to do it with the usb cable or the sdcard via fastboot or adb or something, meaning ill wait till christmas using my old sony ericsson w610 for a few months... but thanks for the advice man.

etu_aty said:
there is a way, is called JTAG but I dont feel like buying that adapter to go ahead and dissasemble the g1. I could end up with a bricked phone in pieces, $20 down and a useless JTAG adapter. I think im giving up if there not a way to do it with the usb cable or the sdcard via fastboot or adb or something, meaning ill wait till christmas using my old sony ericsson w610 for a few months... but thanks for the advice man.
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hey man it sucks that you bricked it really
i know how you feel man.
i bricked something once in my life too.
it really feel sucks.
i really hope you will unbrick it !!!!!!!
may the unbrick live with you my friend !!!
//Nick

This is really sad. I bricked my phone ones too. i had death spl and new radio and happen to flash 1.5 cupcake rom with old radio and got bricked. I was lucky enough though coz i had a friend who totally smashed the display of his phone and was not willing to fix that. I got his phone dissasembled it, got the motherboard from his phone and hooked to mine. And its working good now.

peshal said:
This is really sad. I bricked my phone ones too. i had death spl and new radio and happen to flash 1.5 cupcake rom with old radio and got bricked. I was lucky enough though coz i had a friend who totally smashed the display of his phone and was not willing to fix that. I got his phone dissasembled it, got the motherboard from his phone and hooked to mine. And its working good now.
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thanks for the comments guys, but sadly this is the end for my g1. right now im looking around on ebay for a cheap but newer phone, maybe i can find something that fits my budget.... R.I.P my beloved g1...
maybe some moderator can close this thread

As long as the RADIO is there, it is still salvageable. JTAG hardware can be acquired for about $2.

etu_aty said:
im sooo upsad
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upsad. the most upset and sad feeling in the world.
etu_aty said:
laugh if you want
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BAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

DontHate said:
upsad. the most upset and sad feeling in the world.
BAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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typo, my bad xD

Yeah you should try JTAG rather than just letting it be since you've done so much and this is just 1 step further. Lol or you can wait for me to sell mine when I get my hands on G2
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Sorry about your phone... edit: I was going to ask what you intended to do after flashing the radio, but I thought about it a little harder.
You might be able to sell the phone as a JTAG project.
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paperheart said:
Yeah you should try JTAG rather than just letting it be since you've done so much and this is just 1 step further. Lol or you can wait for me to sell mine when I get my hands on G2
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thanks man but i dont think i would buy another g1.... and yes i did a lot to it, it a super bigass 2200 mAh battery, new battery cover of course, class 4 and class 6 sdcards.... i hava two because i was using one with a sense rom as nandroid and the class 4 was my daily one with whatever rom i flashed... screen protector, new charger, new usb cable... man.. but the only lost will be the battery cuase i can use the charger the usb and the memory cards in another phone n_n right now im thinking about getting a mytouch slide, i found a good price on ebay. If i get it ill let you know and maybe in the future if i get all sentimental about my g1 ill try to fix it

Is it me or is the galaxy s the easiest phone to brick

I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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That might be because its the only phone u can fix from a brick.

Most people who think they bricked there phones only soft bricked it which is easily fixed.. This phone is actually pretty hard to brick imo..
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No it is you
Most of these "I brick my phone" are due to PEBKAC or OTA update.
Most of these "bricks" are fixable.

Alanrocks15 said:
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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The term brick is being tossed around to much. Bricked mean no nothing, nothing at all happening, no lights turning on, no vibrations nothing...nadda...
Not "OMG I BRICKED MY PHONE IT SHOWS A COMPUTER AND A PHONE ON THE SCREENNNN HALPPP"
The Vibrant is the hardest phone I have ever seen to brick. I cant speak for other Galaxy S phones cuz I only have the Vibrant. So far I have only heard of one fool proof way of bricking the phone, it was something that had to do with pulling the usb while using odin.

ipeench said:
The term brick is being tossed around to much. Bricked mean no nothing, nothing at all happening, no lights turning on, no vibrations nothing...nadda...
Not "OMG I BRICKED MY PHONE IT SHOWS A COMPUTER AND A PHONE ON THE SCREENNNN HALPPP"
The Vibrant is the hardest phone I have ever seen to brick. I cant speak for other Galaxy S phones cuz I only have the Vibrant. So far I have only heard of one fool proof way of bricking the phone, it was something that had to do with pulling the usb while using odin.
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+1 and even a USB pull during Odin will only soft brick,, I have done that several times.

Alanrocks15 said:
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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I have come from a Nexus One and i agree 100%.

ipeench said:
So far I have only heard of one fool proof way of bricking the phone, it was something that had to do with pulling the usb while using odin.
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Actually. I did this and even that didn't brick the phone. I managed to get out of the brick by using volume buttons and usb cable. But my phone seemed dead to the world. No power button. Nothing when plugging it into the usb. But some more reading was done and I got life into it.
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really? I think its easier to brink my psp then the vibrant

Yea but the other phones don't even soft brick never noe even for an ota..
Constantly fixing a soft bricked vibrant
Don't get h me wrong I love my vibrant
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Alanrocks15 said:
Yea but the other phones don't even soft brick never noe even for an ota..
Constantly fixing a soft bricked vibrant
Don't get h me wrong I love my vibrant
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Trust me, i have bricked it almost once a day.
Never on the Nexus One.

A lot of the bricks are due to lag fix. Other phones don't deal with this. If you don't mess with lag fixes it updates quite well. Also the leaked firmware we get from samsung to play with probably isn't as stable. The hardware is good, samsung doesn't do the software well.
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Yea but like other phones also have their perks as well but I don't know you have to do a lot of things to the vibrant before you can use it s power
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Alanrocks15 said:
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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the vibrant is probably one of the hardest phone to brick. all these "bricks" are caused by user error on their part. and from what I can tell from your signature, you're not very smart either. a g1 should never use 256swap.

Technically...
I always thought "Brick" meant just that. literally a worthless device best used,like a brick, as a paperweight or something heavy to throw through your ex-girlfriends window. i have abused the vibrant in unspeakable ways and with a 5 minute odin, little nandroid maybe and good as new.

questgraves said:
I always thought "Brick" meant just that. literally a worthless device best used,like a brick, as a paperweight or something heavy to throw through your ex-girlfriends window. i have abused the vibrant in unspeakable ways and with a 5 minute odin, little nandroid maybe and good as new.
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I agree with this. "brick(ed)" has become to general now.

I think we all KNOW that BRICK = DEAD PHONE/PAPER-WEIGHT. I have always been bothered by people throwing that term around way too easy... I used to fight it, but so many do it, it's unfortunately become the norm.
Perhaps we just need a new name for SOFT-BRICK....
How about thread titles like this so it's more clear it IS NOT a Brick:
[Q] Help, I just LIMP-DICKED my Vibrant!!!

s15274n said:
I think we all KNOW that BRICK = DEAD PHONE/PAPER-WEIGHT. I have always been bothered by people throwing that term around way too easy... I used to fight it, but so many do it, it's unfortunately become the norm.
Perhaps we just need a new name for SOFT-BRICK....
How about thread titles like this so it's more clear it IS NOT a Brick:
[Q] Help, I just LIMP-DICKED my Vibrant!!!
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Its annoying to me to ... This tells me that some of the users on here still DON'T understand enough of what they are doing , if every time they get a BOOTLOOP , they say that they Bricked the phone ....
Bricked means just that , Brick....
The only known way to revive a phone that has been bricked is by the use of JTag(mostly used to revive Bricked windows mobile phones) , to date theres been only one ANDROID phone for which JTag has been developed , and thats the G1 ......

My g1 ran superb on 256 swap on 2.1 hero
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Imo, the iphone is the easiest phone to brick. Even with one touch jailbreaks and such...
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KNOX counter reset

Hi guys!
Today i rooted my device (Samsung galaxy s7 edge) for copy some samsung apps witch was unable to copy without root and i lost my KNOX warrantity. I want to repair the KNOX warantity but i don't know how. Anyone could tell me how to do that? Please help me :'(
Thanks

You can't.
Tripped KNOX flag is permanent.
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till now no way to reset the knox counter for the new phones from samsung

Shadows1928 said:
Hi guys!
Today i rooted my device (Samsung galaxy s7 edge) for copy some samsung apps witch was unable to copy without root and i lost my KNOX warrantity. I want to repair the KNOX warantity but i don't know how. Anyone could tell me how to do that? Please help me :'(
Thanks
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You can't fix Knox once the eFuse is blown there's no fixing it.
You should've known rooting devices will have a chance of voiding warranty.
Once you've installed Custom recovery like TWRP you've voided Warranty.
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s7freak said:
You can't fix Knox once the eFuse is blown there's no fixing it.
You should've known rooting devices will have a chance of voiding warranty.
Once you've installed Custom recovery like TWRP you've voided Warranty.
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then how can i repair it?

Shadows1928 said:
then how can i repair it?
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Change mainboard or buy a new phone.
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NonXtreme said:
Change mainboard or buy a new phone.
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nice.... i bought it 2 weeks ago.... fck myself

Shadows1928 said:
nice.... i bought it 2 weeks ago.... fck myself
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This is an expensive lesson but you'll now know that it's always important to read and read and learn. That way you can gain some knowledge and, most importantly, it's free.

If it makes you feel any better OP, I learned the same mistake the same way with a Note 5.

Shadows1928 said:
nice.... i bought it 2 weeks ago.... fck myself
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Tripping knox is only bad when you want to claim warranty for the phone due to a hardware problem. Otherwise, it's perfectly running normal without any effect on the phone's performance.

Shadows1928 said:
then how can i repair it?
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You still have a chance of taking it to the service center without telling them about root. Just flash a full stock rom before.
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bala_gamer said:
You still have a chance of taking it to the service center without telling them about root. Just flash a full stock rom before.
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Thanks for the good advice I sent a message to the shop where i bought it and they mailed me back that i have to bring back the device so tomorrow i'll bring it back.

I think a lot of folks who are new to Samsung phones never heard of Knox and therefore did not know something like that could be irreversibly tripped. Still, no excuse for not proceeding more cautiously and doing advance research.

It's a good phone, you probalby won't need waranty anyway

BigBen60 said:
It's a good phone, you probalby won't need waranty anyway
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And if somebody steal my phone and run away? Jus the KNOX service can help me out... :/

s7freak said:
Not cool he's learned a very expensive lesson being rude and disrespectful doesn't do any good in any way.
At least he didn't turn it into a paperweight like I did on my s3 when I started.
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Thanks dude You're a good man Yes I failed it so that was the reason why I am asking you guys beacause there are some phone experts and i heard a lot of nice things about xda forum but it's sad to see that there are some impolite and rude members like the guy who just sent me this negative comment. But I'm glad to meet you and thank you very much these kind words. It really rarely happens that i see guys like you. So thank you and be awsome dude

dhorgas said:
If it makes you feel any better OP, I learned the same mistake the same way with a Note 5.
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It doesn't make me happier because you did the same mistake so welcome here my boiii ?? I hope that we can find a solution to fix it Have a nice day

Shadows1928 said:
And if somebody steal my phone and run away? Jus the KNOX service can help me out... :/
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If your Rooted with TWRP installed there are Custom Roms the uses Magisk systemless Root that has Knox working to locate the device
Do some searching in the s7e threads and read a lot before doing anything.
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s7freak said:
If your Rooted with TWRP installed there are Custom Roms the uses Magisk systemless Root that has Knox working to locate the device
Do some searching in the s7e threads and read a lot before doing anything.
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Could we talk on skype or something because as I see you're an expert on these phones.

Shadows1928 said:
Thanks dude You're a good man Yes I failed it so that was the reason why I am asking you guys beacause there are some phone experts and i heard a lot of nice things about xda forum but it's sad to see that there are some impolite and rude members like the guy who just sent me this negative comment. But I'm glad to meet you and thank you very much these kind words. It really rarely happens that i see guys like you. So thank you and be awsome dude
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I learned the hard way my friend.
This is a public forum and you'll find all types here. I also understand somewhat the rudeness from some members. This is really supposed to be a development site and there are Rules in place members are supposed to read, especially Rule number one which basically States search first.
Here's a piece of advice I was given some time ago as a new member.
Read everything search constantly and when you think you've read enough read more.
Then when it comes time to modify you're expensive device re-read what you've already read.
That has served me well. I'm no geek by any means geez I rarely turn my computer on. However I can read.
Good luck and be thankful you just voided Warranty and not ruined it.
Oh and thanks for the kind words I appreciate them.
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Shadows1928 said:
Could we talk on skype or something because as I see you're an expert on these phones.
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You can pm me any time
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I've given up on the softbricked s4 Can anyone help me salvage data from the sd?

The data is a few months of pictures of my young children.
It's the only thing on there I care about.
My threads aren't getting any replies.
If you think you can help I'll happily provide any info necessary.

hortstu said:
The data is a few months of pictures of my young children.
It's the only thing on there I care about.
My threads aren't getting any replies.
If you think you can help I'll happily provide any info necessary.
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So explain how are why you feel your phone is soft bricked. What were you doing when is stopped working?
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KC6UFO said:
So explain how are why you feel your phone is soft bricked. What were you doing when is stopped working?
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Hey. Havent been through here in awhile. Thanks for taking an interest if you're still around.
I guess I'm not sure it's softbricked. Maybe it's just bricked and I'm being hopeful.
I don't remember exactly what I was doing at the time. It's been a few months. I think it just happened on restart one day. I don't mess around much. Since this situation I havent tried to customize anything.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ooted-samsung-galaxy-s4-soft-bricked-t3853861
This thread described a few things I tried and what does woek/ happen when I start up... it had no interest/ ideas.
In my uneducated opinion my obstacle is that the device is encrypted and via recovery there was no way to enter the passcode to decrypt.
Would really appreciate any suggestions you might have!