Brick is the slang term for an electronic device which cannot function (or has been rendered useless by damaged firmware). This comes from the fact that the device in question can be considered only as useful as a brick, and little else. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick...
Haha lol I know a few ppl that can only use their devices as bricks lol...
It should be added that if you can fix the device (by reflashing it or whatever), then it's not truly bricked.
athompson said:
It should be added that if you can fix the device (by reflashing it or whatever), then it's not truly bricked.
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Any brick is fixable technically.
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ArianaGrande said:
Any brick is fixable technically.
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Not all. What you are referring to is a soft brick. A hard brick has no coming back.
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Not all. What you are referring to is a soft brick. A hard brick has no coming back.
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Still not true. On my device's forums (HTC One S), hard bricks are being fixed by JIG boxes and J-Tagging the device. So it is still possible.
kylepont said:
Still not true. On my device's forums (HTC One S), hard bricks are being fixed by JIG boxes and J-Tagging the device. So it is still possible.
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Still not true. Not all devices haves JTAG. And don't argue semantics. On the general, hard bricks, by very nature of the name, have no recovery. And soft bricks do.
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boborone said:
Still not true. Not all devices haves JTAG. And don't argue semantics. On the general, hard bricks, by very nature of the name, have no recovery. And soft bricks do.
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I just stumbled upon this, hah! I can't believe this debate about the correct usage of "bricked" was going on even back then (2013 apparently). To me it is obvious that a bricked device is, and will always be, non-functioning. The term "paperweight" has also been around for a *long* time.
If it is "bricked" it is dead, period. There is no such thing "soft-bricked". It's like saying someone is kinda' dead. They either are dead or are they not dead.
Hmm, do zombie-esque terms apply here? [emoji4]
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TiTiB said:
I just stumbled upon this, hah! I can't believe this debate about the correct usage of "bricked" was going on even back then (2013 apparently). To me it is obvious that a bricked device is, and will always be, non-functioning. The term "paperweight" has also been around for a *long* time.
If it is "bricked" it is dead, period. There is no such thing "soft-bricked". It's like saying someone is kinda' dead. They either are dead or are they not dead.
Hmm, do zombie-esque terms apply here? [emoji4]
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I think everyone in android has it easy. WinMo and before, Motorola and Nokia devices, if you messed up, you were ****ed. You had a brick.
I also think bd needs to be added to the definition of a brick.
boborone said:
I think everyone in android has it easy. WinMo and before, Motorola and Nokia devices, if you messed up, you were ****ed. You had a brick.
I also think bd needs to be added to the definition of a brick.
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Soft brick: can fix, bootloader, download mode or recovery are still accessible....
Hard brick: device is kill.... No power on.... You're screwed, enjoy your new paperweight...
My definition of a brick and arguably the most important
^^ and she throws em BTW, ^^
Don't piss her off
TiTiB said:
It's like saying someone is kinda' dead. They either are dead or are they not dead.
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Comas are the definition of kinda dead..
boborone said:
^^ and she throws em BTW, ^^
Don't piss her off
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While you're sleeping, so you wont even know it's coming.
2008, wow!
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People, please use word "bricked" properly. If your phone turns on, but doesn't boot, then it's not bricked. If your get the exclamation mark, it's not bricked. If you can get into the download mode, it's not bricked.
If you press the power button and know that your phone is charged and get no activity what so ever... yes, this is when your phone is bricked.
Edit: stupid keyboard skips words
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Nice post! Glad someone took time to spell it out for new members
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From terminology perspective:
People, please use word "bricked" properly. If your phone turns on, but doesn't boot, then it's not bricked. If your get the exclamation mark, it's not bricked. If you can get into the download mode, it's not bricked.
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Soft Bricked
If you press the power button and know that your phone is charged and get no activity what so ever... yes, this is when your phone is bricked.
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Bricked or Hard Bricked
+1. IMO the Epic is un-brickable since Odin seems to work. The way I see it, the only way I'd ever ACTUALLY brick it is if I dropped it in the toilet!
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+1. IMO the Epic is un-brickable since Odin seems to work. The way I see it, the only way I'd ever ACTUALLY brick it is if I dropped it in the toilet!
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While odin is great (since its what samsung uses) and gives us a lot of recoverability potential...its not "unbrickable"...its rare but not impossible.
Edit: Here is a snip-it from Heimdall (which is a community replacement for odin)
How do Galaxy S phones get bricked when flashing?
Besides the inherent risks like power outs, accidental removal of the USB cable etc. Galaxy S phones appear to be running somewhat unreliable USB control software.
A failure to flash does not automatically equate to a fully bricked phone. However if you’re extremely unlucky and the flash fails whilst transferring the primary boot-loader, secondary boot-loader or params.lfs (all quite small) than you’ve got yourself a paper weight until you can get it repaired via Samsung.
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I was in a panic last night because people were saying DK05 would Brick phones... only to find out it was just a soft-brick to the modem. -___-
If that is the only reason why mods/admins have restricted release to DK05 then I have an issue with them.
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If that is the only reason why mods/admins have restricted release to DK05 then I have an issue with them.
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Perhaps the restriction has to do with the possibility that the modem was "poisonous"?
herzzreh said:
People, please use word "bricked" properly. If your phone turns on, but doesn't boot, then it's not bricked. If your get the exclamation mark, it's not bricked. If you can get into the download mode, it's not bricked.
If you press the power button and know that your phone is charged and get no activity what so ever... yes, this is when your phone is bricked.
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quoted for truth and co-signed!
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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That might be because its the only phone u can fix from a brick.
Most people who think they bricked there phones only soft bricked it which is easily fixed.. This phone is actually pretty hard to brick imo..
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No it is you
Most of these "I brick my phone" are due to PEBKAC or OTA update.
Most of these "bricks" are fixable.
Alanrocks15 said:
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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The term brick is being tossed around to much. Bricked mean no nothing, nothing at all happening, no lights turning on, no vibrations nothing...nadda...
Not "OMG I BRICKED MY PHONE IT SHOWS A COMPUTER AND A PHONE ON THE SCREENNNN HALPPP"
The Vibrant is the hardest phone I have ever seen to brick. I cant speak for other Galaxy S phones cuz I only have the Vibrant. So far I have only heard of one fool proof way of bricking the phone, it was something that had to do with pulling the usb while using odin.
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The term brick is being tossed around to much. Bricked mean no nothing, nothing at all happening, no lights turning on, no vibrations nothing...nadda...
Not "OMG I BRICKED MY PHONE IT SHOWS A COMPUTER AND A PHONE ON THE SCREENNNN HALPPP"
The Vibrant is the hardest phone I have ever seen to brick. I cant speak for other Galaxy S phones cuz I only have the Vibrant. So far I have only heard of one fool proof way of bricking the phone, it was something that had to do with pulling the usb while using odin.
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+1 and even a USB pull during Odin will only soft brick,, I have done that several times.
Alanrocks15 said:
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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I have come from a Nexus One and i agree 100%.
ipeench said:
So far I have only heard of one fool proof way of bricking the phone, it was something that had to do with pulling the usb while using odin.
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Actually. I did this and even that didn't brick the phone. I managed to get out of the brick by using volume buttons and usb cable. But my phone seemed dead to the world. No power button. Nothing when plugging it into the usb. But some more reading was done and I got life into it.
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really? I think its easier to brink my psp then the vibrant
Yea but the other phones don't even soft brick never noe even for an ota..
Constantly fixing a soft bricked vibrant
Don't get h me wrong I love my vibrant
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Alanrocks15 said:
Yea but the other phones don't even soft brick never noe even for an ota..
Constantly fixing a soft bricked vibrant
Don't get h me wrong I love my vibrant
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Trust me, i have bricked it almost once a day.
Never on the Nexus One.
A lot of the bricks are due to lag fix. Other phones don't deal with this. If you don't mess with lag fixes it updates quite well. Also the leaked firmware we get from samsung to play with probably isn't as stable. The hardware is good, samsung doesn't do the software well.
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Yea but like other phones also have their perks as well but I don't know you have to do a lot of things to the vibrant before you can use it s power
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Alanrocks15 said:
I have had the nexus and g1 and sprint hero and these phone have never bricked or failed..abrielle I flash a rom on my vibrant i start to get nervous and cross my fingers it doesn't brick again..
There are probably more threads on"help I bricked my vibrant" here than there if on other phones?
What do you think?
Do any of you agree
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the vibrant is probably one of the hardest phone to brick. all these "bricks" are caused by user error on their part. and from what I can tell from your signature, you're not very smart either. a g1 should never use 256swap.
Technically...
I always thought "Brick" meant just that. literally a worthless device best used,like a brick, as a paperweight or something heavy to throw through your ex-girlfriends window. i have abused the vibrant in unspeakable ways and with a 5 minute odin, little nandroid maybe and good as new.
questgraves said:
I always thought "Brick" meant just that. literally a worthless device best used,like a brick, as a paperweight or something heavy to throw through your ex-girlfriends window. i have abused the vibrant in unspeakable ways and with a 5 minute odin, little nandroid maybe and good as new.
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I agree with this. "brick(ed)" has become to general now.
I think we all KNOW that BRICK = DEAD PHONE/PAPER-WEIGHT. I have always been bothered by people throwing that term around way too easy... I used to fight it, but so many do it, it's unfortunately become the norm.
Perhaps we just need a new name for SOFT-BRICK....
How about thread titles like this so it's more clear it IS NOT a Brick:
[Q] Help, I just LIMP-DICKED my Vibrant!!!
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I think we all KNOW that BRICK = DEAD PHONE/PAPER-WEIGHT. I have always been bothered by people throwing that term around way too easy... I used to fight it, but so many do it, it's unfortunately become the norm.
Perhaps we just need a new name for SOFT-BRICK....
How about thread titles like this so it's more clear it IS NOT a Brick:
[Q] Help, I just LIMP-DICKED my Vibrant!!!
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Its annoying to me to ... This tells me that some of the users on here still DON'T understand enough of what they are doing , if every time they get a BOOTLOOP , they say that they Bricked the phone ....
Bricked means just that , Brick....
The only known way to revive a phone that has been bricked is by the use of JTag(mostly used to revive Bricked windows mobile phones) , to date theres been only one ANDROID phone for which JTag has been developed , and thats the G1 ......
My g1 ran superb on 256 swap on 2.1 hero
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Imo, the iphone is the easiest phone to brick. Even with one touch jailbreaks and such...
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a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy.
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-franco
As a pretty unknowledgeable semi-active member of XDA who reads every single root/return to factory related post before rooting his phone, who tries to help other members a little bit when I can, who learns some code when he has time, I also mess and play with my phone a lot. Occasionally, I do stuffs with my phone that I don't really understand because of the confidence that I (probably) won't brick my phone and as long as I can boot to the boot loader then I am fine.
But... I still feel that doing stuffs without knowing what is the really idiotic stuffs to avoid is kinda dumb.
So my question is, what kind of actions from the phone/adb would lead to a permanent dysfunction of a Nexus 4?
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So my question is, what kind of actions from the phone/adb would lead to a permanent dysfunction of a Nexus 4?
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Honestly, I don't even know anything that can brick the Nexus 4. The only thing that comes to mind is that red blinking LED that people get but I'm not even sure where that comes from, as far as I can tell its from benchmarking with AnTuTu.
Most of the "brick" threads from the Nexus 4 are misleading because their devices aren't really bricked. They just dont know how bootloader mode + fastboot works and are unable to get themselves flashed back to stock.
This is also a illegal topic to talk about on XDA, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849195
Thanks for your answer.
I'll stop discussing this then.
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I accept that Trophy with honor.
Hi all,
So I flashed the superwipe script made my "Awesome" and in the OP it said it wipes external so I assumed all was okay. well it wiped the internal entirely so now my nexus 7 is bricked. I can't even turn the ****ing thing off without runing the battery to dead.
What can I do now to get it back to at least stock ?
Nevermind..
I fixed everything by following this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150537&highlight=wipe+script
Please do not use the term bricked when your tablet isn't actually bricked.
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najaboy said:
Please do not use the term bricked when your tablet isn't actually bricked.
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Perhaps he thought it was bricked?
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Perhaps he thought it was bricked?
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Which is the crux of the problem-throwing around terms without knowing what they mean. It's like someone with a cough assuming it's mesothelioma when it's really just the common cold.
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I think that people tend to go into panic mode when something untoward happens... and the word BRICK in bright red letters flashes on and off in their mind, without really understanding the difference between hardbrick and softbrick.
People...
...if you see the word 'Google' upon boot - and nothing after (or maybe just the ROM boot-animation)... you're bootloader is still good and you're likely just softbricked/bootlooped or otherwise wedged.
If you DON'T see the word 'Google' upon boot... now is the time to start worrying - but don't panic, as that impairs judgement and clarity of thought.... both of which are needed in order to fix whatever ails your device.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Which is the crux of the problem-throwing around teems without knowing what they mean. It's like someone with a cough assuming it's mesothelioma when it's really just the common cold.
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Perhaps he knows what it means, and also thought it was bricked?
I've thought I had a device bricked before, then realised it wasn't.
Doesn't mean I don't know what bricked is??
All I'm saying is, lay off a little bit. XDA is a community.
Hey developers.... After reading through the threads. I feel i shouldn't waste your time repeating my story ...
I hard bricked my S6... it just started restarting itself then had a black screen with a constant red light .. I have seen JTAG threads. Anyone care to help me out explain how i can revive my phone using that or any other method. Thanks Alot
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Hey developers.... After reading through the threads. I feel i shouldn't waste your time repeating my story ...
I hard bricked my S6... it just started restarting itself then had a black screen with a constant red light .. I have seen JTAG threads. Anyone care to help me out explain how i can revive my phone using that or any other method. Thanks Alot
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I'm Sry to say soft bricked mobile can be saved but hard bricked mobile cannot be saved. U can use ur mobile only as a paper weight.
Davnsubuga said:
I hard bricked my S6... it just started restarting itself then had a black screen with a constant red light .. I have seen JTAG threads. Anyone care to help me out explain how i can revive my phone using that or any other method. Thanks Alot
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What exactly did you do before you bricked it? Give more information like:
root status, android version, etc.
What
Hahahaha, paper weight. Hahaha.
JeSTeRH4CK3D said:
Hahahaha, paper weight. Hahaha.
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Would you laugh if you bought an incredibly expensive S6 and now it's bricked? I wouldn't
TimSchumi said:
Would you laugh if you bought an incredibly expensive S6 and now it's bricked? I wouldn't
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every other day i brick my note5 trying to rewrite the bootloader but its a softbrick it IS NOT IN ANYWAY irreversible......im playing bootloader games and all i have to do is reinstall the bootloader.............. how the hell would you hardbrick your phone.
JeSTeRH4CK3D said:
every other day i brick my note5 trying to rewrite the bootloader but its a softbrick it IS NOT IN ANYWAY irreversible......im playing bootloader games and all i have to do is reinstall the bootloader.............. how the hell would you hardbrick your phone.
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The s6 has a locked bootloader unlike the note5. Stop being so ignorant
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TimSchumi said:
Would you laugh if you bought an incredibly expensive S6 and now it's bricked? I wouldn't
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Matthew M. said:
The s6 has a locked bootloader unlike the note5. Stop being so ignorant
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did i forget to mention its a AT&T Note 5....it too has a locked bootloader.
How the heck would you hardbrick your s6... I bet you were foolin around ?