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anyone have experience taking apart the phone and replacing the camera module? or know what instruments are needed for this? thanks a lot!
Which Camera module did you need to replace ?
The main module (The one next to the battery) or the low res version for Video Calls ??
Both are fairly straight forward to replace (The Main one is actually easier than the Video Call One).....
The biggest problem you will have is obtaining one of these modules...
Having said that though, I did see a link here not so long ago for a place in china that was selling parts for these things relatively cheap (Screens, cases, etc).....
As for getting to the main module...
1) Remove Battery cover, battery, and all the screws around the battery area..
2) Remove the bottom cover (From memory there are 4 clips... Take your time and prise them off with a screwdriver...)
3) You should have access to the Camera module (From memory... Its been a long time since I took mine apart)....
There is a workshop manual on here somewhere... Definitely download the thing as it explains everything in regards to taking apart and putting the thing back together again....
yeah the main back camera
ill look around for the manual.. thanks!
trewang said:
yeah the main back camera
ill look around for the manual.. thanks!
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It's on the ftp. Something with confidential in the name.
BTW I took mine apart (to replace the LCD and later again to replace the flex cable) and now the camera doesn't work anymore.
Hi man i have the same problem with you once my phone fell of and i think the camera is damaged so pleas if you find any links of the selling parts post it hear.I also damaged the flash light too.
Wow, my camera just started working again. I had the "Failed to initialize camera 3600:100:x" error.
I actually tried fixing that by swapping the camera from another MDA Pro, but that didn't help.
My main camera is not working and the flash too its not giving me any errors when i start the camera it takes some time to start and the only thing i have is a black screen my flash is not working too.Is there a place to bye one of these?Or if i send it to qteq will they fix it?And how much they will charge me for this?and i was thinking to sell it oh man.
Hallo to all!! I have a problem with the front (smaller) camera of my SPV M 3100: doesn't work!!! during a videocall I can receive the images but can't send the mine! I tried with Coolcamera to switch to the frontal camera, but the screen is "black"! I changed different ROM with no news! I think that is broken!!! is it possible that? should I change the camera? are there other driver for that? PLEASE help me!
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Montakzz said:
Hallo to all!! I have a problem with the front (smaller) camera of my SPV M 3100: doesn't work!!! during a videocall I can receive the images but can't send the mine! I tried with Coolcamera to switch to the frontal camera, but the screen is "black"! I changed different ROM with no news! I think that is broken!!! is it possible that? should I change the camera? are there other driver for that? PLEASE help me!
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If it's under warranty have it checked/repaired. It may be faulty or the connector may be loose. The danger in replacing the camera yourself is that it may not be the camera but a circuit board fault. If you do not have a warranty and are technically minded I can give a link for changing out or checking connection of the front camera.
Mike
thanks Mike; can I have that link please? where can I buy a new cam?
many thanks
Montakzz said:
thanks Mike; can I have that link please? where can I buy a new cam?
many thanks
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Here's a few links:
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=9119842&postcount=1
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com
I don't know of a source for the camera off-hand but I'll do some checking.
Mike
I have the same problem on my HTC TyTN. Videocalls don't seem to be working anymore (they used to). I've never updated the ROM.
What's odd is that I can't use any of the 2 cameras for videocalls eventhough the main camera works when it comes to taking pictures or making videos.
(I haven't tested the sensor camera since there is no possibility to use it outside of videocalls).
I would think my problem was software related.....
Any idea to fix this?
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I have the same problem on my HTC TyTN. Videocalls don't seem to be working anymore (they used to). I've never updated the ROM.
What's odd is that I can't use any of the 2 cameras for videocalls eventhough the main camera works when it comes to taking pictures or making videos.
(I haven't tested the sensor camera since there is no possibility to use it outside of videocalls).
I would think my problem was software related.....
Any idea to fix this?
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So far as I'm aware you can only use front cam for video calls. Why you can't make video calls anymore could be troublesome to track down. I suppose a hard reset would be going too far?? (got any full backups? - should have and then these issues are easily solved)
It sounds like the main camera is working normally. The front camera can be used as a regular camera or video recorder and even a web cam. There are a few applications available from Ateksoft that can get these things working for you. The software is not free although they may still have trial versions available:
Coolcamera: http://www.ateksoft.com/
This will also let you know if there are problems with the front camera.
Mike
Thanks for the info!
I've just installed Webcamera trial version. It works with the main camera, however if I choose the front camera, nothings happens (the application seems to not be able to intialize the front camera as it will hang undefinitely...)
I guess my front camera isn't working properly... That sucks as I can't imagine being without my HTC TyTN if I was to send it for repairs (hopefully I don't make that many videocalls).
superfred said:
Thanks for the info!
I've just installed Webcamera trial version. It works with the main camera, however if I choose the front camera, nothings happens (the application seems to not be able to intialize the front camera as it will hang undefinitely...)
I guess my front camera isn't working properly... That sucks as I can't imagine being without my HTC TyTN if I was to send it for repairs (hopefully I don't make that many videocalls).
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Mmm.. that's a pity. paersonally I never make video calls but I would be annoyed if I thought it would not work if and when I choose to. Have you tried a hard reset - I know that can be a big hassle if you don't keep full backups but still it would confirm (more or less!) whether it's a hardware fault or not.
Mike
like i sow in other topic this is common problem for many users (within me) , i expect it to be something else than hardware problem ...
same problem here!
Any solutions?
Hi every one,
My Hermes' Front Sensor has got some problems
I use Web Camera to open Front Sensor and i can only see a mass of purple very very unclear image through it.
And the last time i use web camera to check Front Sensor i didn't find such a problem, everything goes well.
If there any bugs in the Front Sensor ?
Thanks !
no one knows....?
bless...
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The same thing has happened to me. I have tried it on different roms, including one I know it worked on before, so it must be a hardware issue. Could this be caused by a loose connector or something with a simple fix like that?
I dont want to take my phone apart if theres no chance of fixing it anyway.
Maybe people are confused by the term "Sensor"?
I will assume you meant the Front Camera.
If so, then yes the connector can come loose. It is a simple push on connector, but you do have to dismantle quitefar to get to it.
Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2337130&postcount=4
Assuming you have been through soft and hard resets, you MIGHT want to attempt dismantling the phone.
Mike
Well, I got ss1271 by email and I'm confused (nothing unusual there you may think!!) What he says is this:
Sorry for that I cannot have an access to this xda-developers forum right now, but I'll check it asap.
Well, I mentioned "sensor" which refers to the sensor module that located right of the earphone( a transparent some cube-like stuff), not the front camera.
Whatever, I'm very glad that u could gimme a possible answer, thanks in advance!!
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(Hope you don't mind me posting the email ss1271 - nothing looked private or confidential)
Can anybody think what is being referred to? I know there is a keyboard light sensor, but that seems irrelevant so what is being referred to?
Any ideas?
Mike
Thanks Mike, you were right the first time, it is the front camera. The confusion has come about because Ateksoft refer to it as the front sensor in their webcamera software, and as that and coolcamera are the only software other than video-calling which can use the front camera, that is where both ss1271 and myself discovered the problem.
I have opened my phone up once a while back, but am not in a hurry to do it again until I have a serious need to use the front camera.
I actually used your guides when I opened up my phone before, and will again if I try to solve this before I upgrade, (too poor to at the moment), so thanks for providing them.
Heres a pic of me taken with my front cam.
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Thanks Mike, you were right the first time, it is the front camera. The confusion has come about because Ateksoft refer to it as the front sensor in their webcamera software, and as that and coolcamera are the only software other than video-calling which can use the front camera, that is where both ss1271 and myself discovered the problem.
I have opened my phone up once a while back, but am not in a hurry to do it again until I have a serious need to use the front camera.
I actually used your guides when I opened up my phone before, and will again if I try to solve this before I upgrade, (too poor to at the moment), so thanks for providing them.
Heres a pic of me taken with my front cam.
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Actually I kinda like that pic. Almost psychadeli.. what ya ma call it! But does it improve on reality??
Mike
Well you can't tell that I haven't had a shave today, so there are some benefits. I could make it my profile pic, but I rather like hoagy, what do you reckon?
To get back on topic, do you think that it is a loose connector, is this something you have come across before?
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Well you can't tell that I haven't had a shave today, so there are some benefits. I could make it my profile pic, but I rather like hoagy, what do you reckon?
To get back on topic, do you think that it is a loose connector, is this something you have come across before?
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Well hoagy looks fine!
The push in connector is the most obvious first thing to check in my view. The trouble is loose connectors can show a host of different scrambled pictures and weird colours and missing lines. Can't recall one that vivid shade before but I've seen bright green
I guess the standard thing is just ensure it's not software by doing a hard reset (but I guess you have done that already)
Mike
Hi Mike,jez
First i apologize for my mistaken the Hermes with the Touch Diamond.
When I first got Mike's mail, I took it grant to think that Mike was talking about the Diamond issue...
I'm sorry for you two guys to get confused.
Now I'll clearify that in this thread I was discussing about the FRONT CAMERA of Hermes.
and unfortunately I eventually cannot fix the front camera problem.
Ok, jsut got this thing off of ebay, power it all up I notice someone has been inside. eh no real biggie.. I unlock it and test the major functions.. all works. Bring up the camera and holy crap its like looking through the eyes of a lawn gnome tripping off shrooms and acid.. take a look (attached)
I rewiped.. installed Fx Camera to see if it was a setting, and also wiped the memory card (which came with the phone.. cool!) I then turn around and see that the camera lens is cracked on the battery cover, however the lens inside looks pretty good. So, I'm thinking this is a hardware problem, but Im not afraid to try to fix it if its just a few dollars. Am I screwed?
whoah, thats a trip!
If you deem it to be hardware, I have a spare camera from a parted G1. PM if you want details
I may take you up on that, however I am searching google right now to see if you can even replace the CCD
The camera module is on a ribbon cable that attaches to the motherboard, easily removed. So long as the component damaged is not on the mainboard itself you should be fine.
That's what I like to see!
You have a PM
If you plan on taking it apart yourself you need to be extremely careful, i took mine apart to replace the case when i bought it and after putting it back together everything seemed fine but after a while the touchscreen kept dying the camera never worked and my signal dropped all the time, i tried taking it apart and putting it back together several times to no avail. The phone became unuseable and i shelved it for my D600... bad times. It was only until i was going to send my G1 to a phone recycle website that i opened it up one last time, after doing nothing different and putting it back together its for some reason worked ever since. Just a word of warning hope whatever you do works out ok - Adam
Thanks for the warning! Someone already has been in the camera before.. I am going to assume that it was to take a peak at the camera lens so I am not afraid of voiding the warranty. It's no new adventure for me, I have been inside multiple phones and other small electronics, but thank you again. It never hurts to be redundant when opening any electronic device.
PM returned
When disassembling, I like to modify the HTC manual a bit. I remove the back plastic, and the coaxial cables (be VERY CAREFUL when reassembling, they always get pinched!). Then, remove the connectors as instructed EXCEPT the camera. Now, lift the camera portion, as well as the IMEI sticker as a whole module. They are just taped down. When lifted up fully, now you can spin the mainboard out of it's hooks and remove the entire assembly. This was the difficult connection to the camera stays intact. Makes reassembling much easier too, as it will self align.
If you haven't read/downloaded the G1 service manual, you need to!
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf
Whoa! My first phone that has a manual!
FTA:
"This document contains highly confidential information, so any or all of this document should not be revealed to any third party."
HAHAHAHA!
h1p1n3 said:
Ok, jsut got this thing off of ebay, power it all up I notice someone has been inside. eh no real biggie.. I unlock it and test the major functions.. all works. Bring up the camera and holy crap its like looking through the eyes of a lawn gnome tripping off shrooms and acid.. take a look (attached)
I rewiped.. installed Fx Camera to see if it was a setting, and also wiped the memory card (which came with the phone.. cool!) I then turn around and see that the camera lens is cracked on the battery cover, however the lens inside looks pretty good. So, I'm thinking this is a hardware problem, but Im not afraid to try to fix it if its just a few dollars. Am I screwed?
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My phone just started doing the same thing. I flashed the ADP image to see if it was a bug with the ROM I was using, only to find that it was still all crazy looking. Contemplating if I should try the repair or warranty exchange my phone again, ugghh
mine's doing the same suddenly, according to this: http://www.fixya.com/support/t2307654-htc_g1_camera_takes_pictures_messed_up
it's called solarization but how does one turn it off without a hard reset?
I downloaded the Snap Photo app which allows turning solarization on or off but it makes no difference
Any know how to fix this?
starting to look less and less like hardware
Anyone know how to switch this back to normal?
Hate to say it, but I do not see anything that would point this to software. First, if it was a setting or something software related, it would be resolved by the factory reset.. Heck, flashing the rom like JackSlim did would have reset any bad stacks or drivers.
I did find that post by fixya initially and quickly dismissed when I noticed that 1. Fixya blows... 2. there was no resolution 3. this is the same behavior that digital cameras get when the ccd or cmos goes bad..
PLEASE correct me if Im wrong, I would rather be
h1p1n3 said:
Hate to say it, but I do not see anything that would point this to software. First, if it was a setting or something software related, it would be resolved by the factory reset.. Heck, flashing the rom like JackSlim did would have reset any bad stacks or drivers.
I did find that post by fixya initially and quickly dismissed when I noticed that 1. Fixya blows... 2. there was no resolution 3. this is the same behavior that digital cameras get when the ccd or cmos goes bad..
PLEASE correct me if Im wrong, I would rather be
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After reading the post of Fixya I went into Camera Magic and played with some of the setting and couldn't change it back to normal
Unrooted my G1 today, back to stock Donut DRC83, still the same issues, so I'm pretty sure it's not software related. Since I've had the same issue on the latest Cyanogen build, the Android Dev Phone build & the stock Donut build.
Called T-Mobile to get a warranty replacement, so I'm $9.99 and a couple days away from having another phone.
That's my fix anyways
I hope anyone not covered under a warranty is able to find a solution, my guess is you would have to replace the camera itself as Speed mentioned in one of the earlier posts, so look for a parted out phone or a aftermarket parts store and good luck with opening up the phone
As soon as money goes into my paypal account and I replace it I will post my results. Heck, if anyone is interested I will do a step by step for future reference. With pictures taken from a working camera, of course.
The only reason I am thinking software is that it seems like it is occurring to a few people all of a sudden where a week ago none of us had heard of this. I had a accelerometer problem with a G1 and I took it back to the RC29 rom and everything trying to fix it, it never would work. Sent it to HTC and they reflashed it...worked fine. They said there were no hardware issues. That makes me think there must be a bit of software that isnt getting replaced (like bios on a pc?). Perhaps what is going on is hardware..just hard to say right now.
The camera itself may have some firmware that is corrupted. Also possible that there's a fried transistor somewhere along the line. Could even be something really simple, like a bad ribbon cable or connection.
Cheers for Manual link
will greatly help when I swap over from black case to white case
( sticky keys and a mate wanted white one sooo $30 AUD for an complete white kit and hoping for sucsessfull fixed KB glitch )
note that you will still have black buttons for volume and camera, as well as memory card cover. That is what kept me from changing colors on mine- I went with a black replacement case so I didnt have the wrong colored buttons
Hey guys,
I'm hoping someone can maybe help me out with this issue. For about 2 days now my camera has stopped focusing. When you touch the screen you see the little icon come up in the middle... but it doesn't even attempt to change the focus.
I've tried doing a factory reset through the settings menu, and then through the recovery menu. I've wiped the lens down, and I've tried another app. Nothing worked at all.
I'm 99.9% sure it's a hardware issue that I will have to send it in for...........but that .1% uncertainty brought me here hoping someone has some other step I can try.
I've got a stock phone running 5.0
Thanks
I have the same problem when I try to take a picture when it's dusk.
I had the same problem when I bought my 910A from eBay. It wouldn't focus unless I tapped the phone and sometimes took a good smack to get it to focus. It was a hardware problem so I sent it back for a refund.
Sorry, you mentioned you were looking for a possible fix. I tried going down that avenue, but the issue is inside the camera and to work on that you have to remove the screen which is a major PITA. I looked into Square Trade, which has a $75 deductible and Samsung, which wanted $250 to replace the camera. In the end I tried to work out an exchange with the seller but that didn't happen. So I ended up buying a 910C from a different seller. This one works fine.