I Bricked two Defys. Anyone smart have 10 minutes to spare? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have two *Australian* Defys, I believe (but can't prove) that they were unlocked when I got them.
I was asked to cyanogise them for a mate, and now I've "broken" my mate's phones.
Telstra say that neither phone is locked with them.
I installed the top download from here:
download cyanogenmod org /?type=stable&device=jordan
And the phones can't be used, they want a carrier subsidy unlock!
I'm told that CM-jordan doesn't support CDMA, and so that's why it keeps asking for a carrier unlock PIN; it can't handle the radio hardware properly.
I'm also told that there is no CyanogenMod that's ever going to work with a CDMA defy, because there isn't support for the hardware.
How can I get the phones to work, ever again? What SBF can I put in there with RSD Lite that has a hope of working?
Most of the links from existing posts here appear to be long dead, btw.
Thanks in advance, hoping someone can help me!

freakwent said:
a CDMA defy, because there isn't support for the hardware.
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There is a CDMA Defy? I thought Motorola Defy is a GSM phone only.

Well, I was informed on IRC that it's a CDMA phone, so let's ignore that and assume that it isn't.
I know it's an MB525.
I have two of these, both reckon they want a carrier unlock PIN, but both were unlocked when I started -- that's why I think that it's an error, not a "real" lock.
What I don't know is what to do about it!
One useful path might be to get some decent SBFs for the phones, the set I have is a motoblur one, I reckon if I can find a more recent non-blur SBF; or any sbf where we are confident that the radio support is right, then I'd have a hope of some kind of phone access, because at the moment they are like really tiny wifi tablets....

I think you should search for JRDNEM_U3_2.26.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B5TEL02A.0R_USAJORDANTELSTRA_P033_A017_M008_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
Here is a list of sbf's for Defy http://www.droid-developers.org/wiki/SBF:Defy

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I think you should search for JRDNEM_U3_2.26.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B5TEL02A.0R_USAJORDANTELSTRA_P033_A017_M008_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
Here is a list of sbf's for Defy <snipped so I can post>
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Thanks so much for replying -- the problem I have is that the file you recommend is just not available. The links behind that list give me a "403 Forbidden" result from the server, can anyone else get content from sbf droid-developers org/umts_jordan/JRDNEM_U3_2.26.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B5TEL02A.0R_USAJORDANTELSTRA_P033_A017_M008_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
For me the whole sbf.droid-developers.org domain is out of reach.
I spent some time on FTP search engines and so on but came up short. I guess the next logical step is to contact the owners of droid-developers.org, but if they've done this on purpose then it's unlikely to help me.
Is it supposed to be down?

droid-developers.org is down for more than a year, I only gave you the link to know what to look for. You should search the forum for someone who had used JRDNEM_U3_2.26.0, maybe they can share it.

ok thanks.

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Custom ROMs

Who's attention do we need to get to start getting some love for custom roms on the bravo? I'm wondering if it would be relatively easy to accomplish given the hardware inside is pretty similar to the droid 2 and droid x. I believe it's identical minus clock speeds. Anyway, I would like some stock froyo or gingerbread on this baby to see it really shine. Not to mention 1-1.2GHz.
Yes please. That would be awesome.
Yea....
You know, guys, you cant just sit here and ask for custom ROMs and just hope it pops up somewhere. You have to help too! Make a system dumb of your Bravo and upload it to Mega Upload or something to start off helping...then go around to people and ask someone, for intense on the Defy form because the phones are similar, if they'll take your dump (yea sounds bad LOL) and make some sort of custom recovery out of it. WE NEED PEOPLES HELP if we plan to make this phone AWESOME .
Well, I have no idea how to go about doing that, but would be more than willing to work with people to get the info they need to help them. I'll do some searching on how to get the dump unless you have a link that outlines that sort of thing.
From what I'm seeing people just grab the /system/ directory? I'm in droid explorer but it doesn't seem to allow me to copy it. hmmmm
Ditto, would love to help get some roms for this thing, just need to get me to the right path and I am all over it. Not much of a coder but willing to try.
Have already installed android sdk and Eclipse on my system, total noob to Android.
Have you found out anything on system dump? Probably good palce to start.
YEP!
That is why it's called a system dump! So yea I know I've had that problem too, where it won't let you copy the /system. I recommend the DroidExplorer program.
www.de.codeplex.com/releases/view/50997
Works great for me, IDK if it'l work with the Bravo as good as my Flipout (busted my Bravo, but it's fixable with an SBF or a .ZIP) So anyways please let me know if that works so someone can start developing!
Link gave me server error will try it again later on.
Here's what I have found out so far;
Using Eclipse/ADT I can see my whole system from Eclipse Explorer and watch it as it's running. From here I can push and pull (adb) from here. I have would attach a screen shot but need to wait till I have such privileges.
I could start to actually make system changes from here, but that would be suicidal since I am still new at this.
What I would like to do is download, copy, maybe dd from terminal, not sure how to, my current device rom to an emulator so I can experiment with it (rather trash the emulator than my phone).
If anyone an help with this (haven't figured this out yet) would be of great help.
Also have not investigated yet but Motorola Clig, Shadow, XT800, Kobe (Bravo), Milestone, Droid 2, Droid Pro, and Defy are all OMAP 36XX processors so I am thinking roms from these could/maybe (use at own risk I AM NO EXPERT) work on the Bravo.
As soon as I figure out all the above I am still ignorant in (don't want to brick this phone) I will start experimenting with the roms.
Any help in these areas would be greatly appreciated as it would also be a major time saver, googling for what I have so (which isn't much far) has taken weeks.
Also have not investigated yet but Motorola Clig, Shadow, XT800, Kobe (Bravo), Milestone, Droid 2, Droid Pro, and Defy are all OMAP 36XX processors so I am thinking roms from these could/maybe (use at own risk I AM NO EXPERT) work on the Bravo.
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Closer look Xt800 and Milestone are the closest w/the XT being the one which would appear to be be best choice. So later this evening will head over to XT posts and see what I can dig up, right now need to go sell some cookies with my daughter.
MCFarmfresh said:
Yes please. That would be awesome.
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I would too, Im getting phone tomorrow and have a few rooting progams and droid explorer (wich I dont know how to use)
Maybe sum luck here
This phone will get 2.2 soon, trust me on this! Once it does, someone will grab an SBF (a stock 2.2 Bravo SBF) for this. I think a main reason for this phone not being developed on is because none of these files necessary exist. Hopefully when 2.2 is released some one WILL get a hold of it, an update.zip, an SBF...I think the'll all work. So yea, just some good news. Oh, and don't ask how I know, I KNOW.
someone might already have their hands on the 2.2 update.zip.
I found in the market an app called "android dump". Does anyone know if that will do what we need it to do? And what is the steps we need to follow to get some support for this device? Just upload to media fire? I will go ahead and do that when I get a chance and post back gere when I have done so. anyone with additional instructions ios greatly appreciated.
Already done!
Just uploaded system dump to mediafire. In case you want to know how, just run adb and do the command pull /system.
Oh, btw, heres the link!
http://www.mediafire.com/?7z1onzpuh90zuqn
BTW i already got jboogie (dev working on defy) and asked him if he had any chance of porting it to the Bravo by just making some minor changes. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877058&page=92
without clockworkmod or something we cant even use roms, good thing i just saw this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955075
this guy is porting koush's work to the bravo!
he needs an sbf though, can we help him?!?!?!
also 2.2 is far imo, its not even on motorola's update roadmap.
It's in testing right now. 2.2 that is.
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It's in testing right now. 2.2 that is.
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the man is correct. almost had my hands on it.
If you guys are that close to it then surely you can get an SBF of 2.1??? pretty please?
I am porting Clockworkmod using Koush's bootstrap recovery and am close to a working test but am not willing to test it on my gf's unit without an SBF at this point, she just got it and she bought it on ebay so i am not sure if she will have warranty issues with at&t (probably)
so without and sbf i am looking for someone who has perhaps cracked their screen and is getting an insurance replacement, you can test my work and if it bricks your phone then no one is out anything, it will be sbf'ed at the factory anyways. even a warranty replacement is fine, but there is a little risk but i have never had problems with that. they just sbf the things. not boot them up and look for root lol. plus you already voided your warranty if you want to be techincal when you rooted
bandroidx said:
If you guys are that close to it then surely you can get an SBF of 2.1??? pretty please?
I am porting Clockworkmod using Koush's bootstrap recovery and am close to a working test but am not willing to test it on my gf's unit without an SBF at this point, she just got it and she bought it on ebay so i am not sure if she will have warranty issues with at&t (probably)
so without and sbf i am looking for someone who has perhaps cracked their screen and is getting an insurance replacement, you can test my work and if it bricks your phone then no one is out anything, it will be sbf'ed at the factory anyways. even a warranty replacement is fine, but there is a little risk but i have never had problems with that. they just sbf the things. not boot them up and look for root lol. plus you already voided your warranty if you want to be techincal when you rooted
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I work at att. The bravo is less then a year old so your gf is covered even if it was purchased from ebay. If you brick it just do the exchange by mail safer then in store.
What does the exchange cost because I got mine free as an upgrade phone and unless you have insurance it's my understanding that once the thirty day warranty is over it's all on you.
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silvagroup said:
What does the exchange cost because I got mine free as an upgrade phone and unless you have insurance it's my understanding that once the thirty day warranty is over it's all on you.
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It has a one year manufacture's warranty on it which will protect against manufacture defects which would cover software failure if they did not find out device is rooted.

[WIP] Porting Clockwork Mod to Bravo

Hey all, I talked to koush and he said he was ok with me porting his Droid2/X/Pro bootstrap to the motorola bravo.
Basically it will work the same way as on those devices, you load the bootstrap app on the phone, and reboot into recovery. the phone reboots and clockwork mod then loads and you can install .zip's (like the gb keyboard, etc) do nandroids, install rom's etc.
you cant install custom kernels because of the locked bootloaders on these devices, this is the only drawback.
I am going to need some testers and even better if someone could get me the SBF file for this phone that would be so awesome. Its gotta be easy to find, its been out for a while and its an old software 2.1-update1 that i think is the same since release. Please let me know!
if you want to follow my work or help my github is :
https ://git hub.com/bandroidx - put the space back between git and hub i cant post links either
This should work with 2.2 so even if it drops soon, that is a ok. That wont make this project any less important, we need a way to get a custom recovery booted no matter what.
Update 2/19/11 - I hope to have a testable version done by the end of my long weekend (have off monday) will need testers very soon so keep in touch if your serious about testing. Anything I release will be a confirmed working on atleast 1 device (my gf's) build hopefully.
4-20-11: In final development, release imminent.
Ok i am almost ready for testers. You will need android sdk tools w/ adb and your phone must be rooted.
I need to finalize a few things, a sbf would really help, doesnt someone work for at&t and can get this?
Sent you a PM, but I can't tell if it actually was delivered. Please let me know if you got it. I am interested in testing my Bravo, but naturally, have some reservations. Thanks.
i am so limited by this 10 post thing, hopefully i get out of it fast.
i am trying to test it on a bravo emulation i got going in the simulator too, its being problematic but my gf has a real bravo for me to test on
an sbf would be nice, anyone?
i am asking some people for a sbf, maybe i can see about making a system only sbf like they did for the dx, that might work too.
MODERATOR please approve me so i can post in dev forums! argh!
I have talked to some people about an SBF and havent found anything yet. Someone must work for at&t or moto and can get this, all their stores have it probably to reflash phones.
But until then I need someone who is willing to risk bricking their phone because they are sending it back for warranty work. Yes it could void your warranty but I have never heard of this, we bricked a **** ton of droid x's before we had an sbf and had no problems.
Even better would be someone who is sending it to insurance to rpelace it because of a broken screen or something, that would be a great test unit.
So ask around, find someone for me, I should have a working test very soon.
bandroidx said:
I have talked to some people about an SBF and havent found anything yet. Someone must work for at&t or moto and can get this, all their stores have it probably to reflash phones.
But until then I need someone who is willing to risk bricking their phone because they are sending it back for warranty work. Yes it could void your warranty but I have never heard of this, we bricked a **** ton of droid x's before we had an sbf and had no problems.
Even better would be someone who is sending it to insurance to rpelace it because of a broken screen or something, that would be a great test unit.
So ask around, find someone for me, I should have a working test very soon.
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P3Droid seems to be really good at getting his hands on leaked Motorola files. I've asked if he could get a Bravo SBF but was ignored. Since you are actually doing something productive, maybe he would be more apt to respond to you.
bandroidx said:
Ok i am almost ready for testers. You will need android sdk tools w/ adb and your phone must be rooted.
I need to finalize a few things, a sbf would really help, doesnt someone work for at&t and can get this?
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Ok, I am willing and able to aid you in any way I can with my bravo. it is rooted and ready to go. I do work for AT&T but only in sales and customer service, so I don't have hands on access to the .sbf for the phone. But if you know of any means for me to get it or request it, i.e. the rout or channel I should attempt to get it, that would be great. Thanks so much for your effort in this and let me know if there is anything I can do.
MisterKrispy said:
P3Droid seems to be really good at getting his hands on leaked Motorola files. I've asked if he could get a Bravo SBF but was ignored. Since you are actually doing something productive, maybe he would be more apt to respond to you.
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Thanks its a good idea, as I already tried it
He cant get it, he only gets vzw.
his reply "@bandroidx I doubt it, no connects outside of VZW/Moto"
if you want to follow me on twitter i am @bandroidx
MCFarmfresh said:
Ok, I am willing and able to aid you in any way I can with my bravo. it is rooted and ready to go. I do work for AT&T but only in sales and customer service, so I don't have hands on access to the .sbf for the phone. But if you know of any means for me to get it or request it, i.e. the rout or channel I should attempt to get it, that would be great. Thanks so much for your effort in this and let me know if there is anything I can do.
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Thanks, I am not sure how At&t is but with verizon they have tech support in the stores so someone can bring a bricked phone in and get it fixed (or replaced) while they wait, etc. Does AT&T work the same way? In that case, you could contact someone at the store and get it with a good story to the tech guys. they usually are underpaid and younger kids at vzw and will easily obey any request from corporate imo. I am fairly sure this how most sbf's get out, unless its from like an inside engineering dept or from the manfucaturer themselves but those are problably more rare.
Thanks a million if you can get this that would be great. Otherwise i think we need to hope for someone with a broken screen ,etc that is getting a replacement. I would not want to brick someones perfectly good phone with no way to recover. It happens, even with the best testing and coding.
bandroidx said:
Thanks, I am not sure how At&t is but with verizon they have tech support in the stores so someone can bring a bricked phone in and get it fixed (or replaced) while they wait, etc. Does AT&T work the same way? In that case, you could contact someone at the store and get it with a good story to the tech guys. they usually are underpaid and younger kids at vzw and will easily obey any request from corporate imo. I am fairly sure this how most sbf's get out, unless its from like an inside engineering dept or from the manfucaturer themselves but those problably more rare.
Thanks a million if you can get this that would be great. Otherwise i think we need to hope for someone with a broken screen ,etc that is getting a replacement. I would not want to brick someones perfectly good phone with no way to recover. It happens, even with the best testing and coding.
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I think I know a way to get it. Now att does warranty exchanges is they send you a new or refurbished device and you send the broken one back to them when you get it. However, there is one store in my state that doubles as a warranty device exchange center. Basically if you don't want to wait on your device in the mail you can get it replaced there. I think that would be the only store that would have the files. I just need to think of a good excuse for them to put it on a flash drive for me or to email it to me. I think they would be more about to do it if they new I worked for att and I had a good enough excuse. I'll let ya know what I can find out.
MCFarmfresh said:
I think I know a way to get it. Now att does warranty exchanges is they send you a new or refurbished device and you send the broken one back to them when you get it. However, there is one store in my state that doubles as a warranty device exchange center. Basically if you don't want to wait on your device in the mail you can get it replaced there. I think that would be the only store that would have the files. I just need to think of a good excuse for them to put it on a flash drive for me or to email it to me. I think they would be more about to do it if they new I worked for att and I had a good enough excuse. I'll let ya know what I can find out.
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Awesome let me know, that is def. a good idea. On a phone that has been out for so long and the SBF is for released software so even though they dont let them go out in the wild openly, they are quite available. [mbm] was surprised that its not out yet for a phone released that long.
Some other good news just incase, i talekd to p3droid again and explained what i was doing in better detail and he is going to try to find this for us. He said he will shake the tree and see what falls out or something to that effect. But its at&t and not vzw, so def. still try to get it if you can without getting fired!
Just never admit you want it to release it or that you released it. I will help you release it to cover you and insulate you further if you want. I will load it up on my french seed box
Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
bandroidx said:
Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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If you have a system SBF to test at some point, please let me know. I'll be happy to test it for you.
bandroidx said:
Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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bandroidx, was just checking in to see if you got my PM. I actually sent two because after I sent each one it said I had 0 sent messages. If not I'll shoot ya an email. Thanks.
Yes i got your pm and just replied.
I have a testable apk but it hasnt been tested yet. I am unable test it on the emulator but am working on other ways to test it.
the good news is i built the whole thing with help from the guy who ported CWM to the defy which is very similar and he thinks it looks good.
basically waiting on a sbf or someone with a device going back for replacement that can boot into the os and run an app (broken scren probably would be good)
OK i have the recovery ready to testi it will be first come first serve for testers. I will be back online around 10pm EST monday night to find some testers. send me your gtalk around then if your interedted.
bandroidx
CWM port to Moto Bravo
I too work at At&t and have an able and willing Bravo to put on the line for the sake of testing, if you still need help, I did use the CW for my Aria, so I have a little experience with it. Good luck, and I hope you guys get this thing going. I'm ready to throw Cyanogenmod on this baby!
apples2droids said:
I too work at At&t and have an able and willing Bravo to put on the line for the sake of testing, if you still need help, I did use the CW for my Aria, so I have a little experience with it. Good luck, and I hope you guys get this thing going. I'm ready to throw Cyanogenmod on this baby!
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I have a testable copy that is using code confirmed working on the defy so should be good.
If you want to try it, there is some risk of bricking or needing sbf (which we dont have) but it should be recoverable in most scenarios because of the way the hijack works, all you need is a rooted phone.
if someone goes wrong it should go back to normal on next reboot.
bandroidx said:
I have a testable copy that is using code confirmed working on the defy so should be good.
If you want to try it, there is some risk of bricking or needing sbf (which we dont have) but it should be recoverable in most scenarios because of the way the hijack works, all you need is a rooted phone.
if someone goes wrong it should go back to normal on next reboot.
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Hi , I have a bricked Moto Bravo, that is boot looping
So...
I'll be happy to test the sbf and report back
got a link for DL ?

motorola razr M prototype?

hi everyone, so i recently saw motorola razr m. the thing is, it had motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it was running jellybean. just the markings were a bit curious, if someone can shed some light on what it was. thanks !
mikeverne said:
hi everyone, so i recently bought a second hand motorola razr m. the thing is, it has motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it works totally fine, gsm unlocked and its running jellybean. everything runs as it should, just the markings are a bit curious. ive attached a pic to see if someone can shed some light on what it is. thanks !
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
Somber73 said:
Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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yea i saw that too. but that doesn't really tell me anything apart from the fact that other phones like mine were also sold(which i already knew).
It would be best to just drop the subject. You have something rare, and if you want to keep it, I would keep it quiet. The guys on the Motorola forum are launching a pretty big investigation into this. I would delete your pic and edit your OP. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone illegal activity, but there is a reason these are out in the open...
Regardless of the circumstances surrounding where or how he got the phone, there ought to be someplace where this guy can get answers as to its origin or what it is exactly without everybody overreacting.
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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cellzealot said:
It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
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thank you! and btw, that wasn't me who posted in the official forums lol. thats the lase place i would think of posting if i had a prototype haha.
sloosecannon said:
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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thank you! and yea, i agree.
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
jco23 said:
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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uh, actually im pretty sure he is telling the truth. its sort of a Pakistani craigslist.
RSD is proprietary software, owned by Motorola. While I know it's very easy to find online, it's not intended for public use. The rules of this site forbid discussion of software installation or use unless that software is distributed by Motorola or one of its partners.
That pretty much sums it up. Had he come to xda, he'd have gotten help. He didn't seem too open to helping the Motorola guys out though, so they didn't help him. Don't see why he would lie about that, he's just a poor guy who wants his confidential Motorola property to work for him... By asking the people that someone stole it from... Yeah...
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guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
dasche said:
guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
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Nope. Since it's factory unlocked, you should be able to install TWRP and go about flashing whatever you want. It might be a wiser choice to buy a regular handset, since you want have Motorola property all over the front.

[Q] Taking xt907 to London - Advice.…?

Hello all,
I have an XT907, bootloader unlocked, running CM11 very well. I am planning to go to London for a week in February, and I would like to buy a micro sim to use while I am there. I have scoured the threads trying to make sense of the international/micro-sim situation, and I am totally lost. Here's what I need to know:
Can I take my phone to London, pop out my Verizon micro-sim, pop in an O2 sim and use it without making any other changes? (I did this a couple of years ago with a jail-broken iPhone and it worked beautifully...)
Sub-questions, which can be ignored if the simple answer is "yes": do I need to call Verizon to get them to unlock the phone?
Are there GSM issues, which I tend to ignore, since my carrier is Verizon, and, if there are, have they been patched in this rom?
Thanks in advance. Hoping somebody can answer.
se1961 said:
Hello all,
I have an XT907, bootloader unlocked, running CM11 very well. I am planning to go to London for a week in February, and I would like to buy a micro sim to use while I am there. I have scoured the threads trying to make sense of the international/micro-sim situation, and I am totally lost. Here's what I need to know:
Can I take my phone to London, pop out my Verizon micro-sim, pop in an O2 sim and use it without making any other changes? (I did this a couple of years ago with a jail-broken iPhone and it worked beautifully...)
Sub-questions, which can be ignored if the simple answer is "yes": do I need to call Verizon to get them to unlock the phone?
Are there GSM issues, which I tend to ignore, since my carrier is Verizon, and, if there are, have they been patched in this rom?
Thanks in advance. Hopin.
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This may take care of all your needs. Use cwmr 6046 or philz 6079 only. Backup your current rom before doing anything.
Keep in mind that even these recoveries do not save all your partitions. Some partitions are only on your phone. /persist, /modem & /firmware are the most important ones NOT saved! Try it out. If you do not want to delve into RSD lite & PC only hacking, stop. All you need to restore our latest xml via RSD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391641
Go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246081
Subsitute the op's twrp bu: http://yadi.sk/d/oufUHo_F4Ehfh for Avst_ZaYAC_MODsmXBIN.cwmr.zip
You will restore it rather than install it.
And fit it into my other steps in Post 17
Using philz v 6097 cwmr, which will restore twrp format too.
I cannot recommend twrp anymore.
You will have full vzw 4g & I think the star of the setup, the droid razr widget should not break your 4g. more on DRW here You may need FireFox to get the translate link to work.
Do test it all out & save it w/ philz.
Messing with the "select radio band" (3 dot menu) with the hidden app "phone info" [also known as *#*#4636#*#* from the dialer] will break 4g /modem & result in 3g to 1x only. Feel free to do anything else from Phone Info.
Once a combination of partitions are broken RSD is the only fix.
Just restore to the ...94 xml and then the partitions not handled by our recoveries, get fixed and a restore via philz puts all right again [some from RSD & most from the recovery].
Latest Philz zip http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition
or here flashable from custom recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2567603
Wow. Thank you SO much for the detailed reply.
Unfortunately, all of this sounds very complicated to me-- I have never messed around with radios/modems, and really love the way my phone works, here, now, in the United States.
I take it that your one word answer is, "no, your phone will not work if you bring it to Europe and pop in a sim..."?
If so, given that I am only going once, for six days, I might just pull out that old iPhone and limp along with that.
Again, I am so grateful for the time you took to point me in the right direction. Sorry to be such a wimp.
se1961 said:
Wow. Thank you SO much for the detailed reply.
Unfortunately, all of this sounds very complicated to me-- I have never messed around with radios/modems, and really love the way my phone works, here, now, in the United States.
I take it that your one word answer is, "no, your phone will not work if you bring it to Europe and pop in a sim..."?
If so, given that I am only going once, for six days, I might just pull out that old iPhone and limp along with that.
Again, I am so grateful for the time you took to point me in the right direction. Sorry to be such a wimp.
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Hm... I use Razr M on Europe (Ukraine) on GSM network and have no problems with my carrier even on stock-ROM
If you use AOSP-based ROM - just use this
se1961 said:
Wow. Thank you SO much for the detailed reply.
Unfortunately, all of this sounds very complicated to me-- I have never messed around with radios/modems, and really love the way my phone works, here, now, in the United States.
I take it that your one word answer is, "no, your phone will not work if you bring it to Europe and pop in a sim..."?
If so, given that I am only going once, for six days, I might just pull out that old iPhone and limp along with that.
Again, I am so grateful for the time you took to point me in the right direction. Sorry to be such a wimp.
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Me and My GF just traveled through England over Xmas
My phone was on 4.4 by Dhacker Everything Worked up to 3G (Using Tmobile US, Tombile DE and NetzClub (O2))
My GF phone was on Latest Stock Everything Worked up to H+ (O2 and Tmobile DE) <--- But we had to do a GSM so it stopped Dropping Comnnecting.
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My phone was on 4.4 by Dhacker Everything Worked up to 3G (Using Tmobile US, Tombile DE and NetzClub (O2)
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I think this could be good news. I'm using CM11 nightly, which I think is not that different from Dhacker. All you did was pop in the microsim?
I really don't want to wreck my current phone, which works, just to get a few days of better phone service on vacation.
se1961 said:
I think this could be good news. I'm using CM11 nightly, which I think is not that different from Dhacker. All you did was pop in the microsim?
I really don't want to wreck my current phone, which works, just to get a few days of better phone service on vacation.
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Correct we just swapped sim.
I have always 2 Sim on me. NetzClub (O2) My German Travel sim and Tmobile US my Native US one.
My gf using O2 As Europe Native and Tmobile DE as International
What we did find out though
We got most stable and best receptions in Germany/Bavaria/England with Baseband:
SM_BP_101031.027.32.81P
Germanese said:
We got most stable and best receptions in Germany/Bavaria/England with Baseband:
SM_BP_101031.027.32.81P
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I will search for tutorials about flashing that baseband-- is it a simple enough process? Will it affect how my phone works on Verizon when I return?
Also, for others trying to figure this stuff out, I found this: http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/how-and-patch-fully-enable-gsm-verizon-cdma-phones-android by one of the XDA members which is not exactly a "for dummies" tutorial but does begin to outline the issues.
Thanks to everyone for helping me.
se1961 said:
I will search for tutorials about flashing that baseband-- is it a simple enough process? Will it affect how my phone works on Verizon when I return?
Also, for others trying to figure this stuff out, I found this: http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/how-and-patch-fully-enable-gsm-verizon-cdma-phones-android by one of the XDA members which is not exactly a "for dummies" tutorial but does begin to outline the issues.
Thanks to everyone for helping me.
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She Gained that baseband by downloading the Stock Rom with that Baseband.
I have to get back to my home computer to get that link.
Its a Dev Site where u can download all the Stock roms for our Phone.
Oh my gosh!! I have that baseband already. Phew! One less thing on my "to do" list.
Okay, last question, I promise. I have read, and think I understand, the blog tutorial about enabling GSM. But it sounds from your post like I do not have to edit my build.prop at all, if I am running CM11 and have the baseband you mentioned. I apologize for repeating my question again and again, but I am a little slow.
se1961 said:
Oh my gosh!! I have that baseband already. Phew! One less thing on my "to do" list.
Okay, last question, I promise. I have read, and think I understand, the blog tutorial about enabling GSM. But it sounds from your post like I do not have to edit my build.prop at all, if I am running CM11 and have the baseband you mentioned. I apologize for repeating my question again and again, but I am a little slow.
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In this Particular case you don't need to do that.
Enabeling GSM and Editing Build Prop is Mainly for Tmobile USA and AT&T or any USA GSM carrier.
But on some CM11 it may be required since it was not made for GSM, most newer ones are though.
That's where u look for the GSM Fix thing.
The only thing you May have to hunt down are the info for Data if it doesn't Auto install itself from the Euro SIM.
International SIM normally Require a PIN and it will Auto install a SIM app to correct its Data Settings.
Thanks! Based on your helpful clarification I will leave it alone.
Sent from my XT907 using xda app-developers app

Now Available: BL Unlock for Moto Devices (Read This!!!)

DAN ROSENBERG HAS FOUND AN EXPLOIT TO UNLOCK THE MOTO X (AND OTHER DEVICES) BOOTLOADER!!!
Will he release it? Your guess is as good as mine...
Per jcase: Support to be added soon to "Sunshine" unlock app for Moto devices!
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Motorola support is yet to be added to the version on the site, stay tuned (and dont update your phones)
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DO NOT UPDATE YOUR DEVICE OR TAKE ANY OTAS IN THE MEANTIME!!!!!
EDIT 9/22/14: Unlock now available for Droid Maxx, Mini, Ultra, and THE MOTO X!!!
Find the tool at http://theroot.ninja
Cost is $25 per device. Works on 4.4.3 and BELOW, and *some* 4.4.4. You have to try the app to find out. You do NOT pay unless the tool confirms compatibility.
EcHoFiiVe said:
AN EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND BY DAN ROSENBERG EVERYONE.
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Free mobile app
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EcHoFiiVe said:
He officially unveiled it at the Black Hat conference
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samwathegreat said:
AMAZING NEWS!!! Thanks!!!!! I'm researching this now, and will post here as soon as more info is found. THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP!!!!!
EDIT: Confirmation posted to REDDIT, HERE: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2csyiq/
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Lots of interest in the Moto X forums.........none here???
Well, when I entered this thread my opinion was "WTF, again, what chance this guy has against Motorola cryptography?" BUT, why not? There is nothing can be gathered from my unlock code, except my IMEI (reverse calculate from the unlock token or database match - both of which are unlikely) which could be used by Moto to re-lock my BL but if they wanted to, they would've done it with the latest update.
I'm going with it!
Good luck, @samwathegreat
CrazyRussianXDA said:
Well, when I entered this thread my opinion was "WTF, again, what chance this guy has against Motorola cryptography?" BUT, why not? There is nothing can be gathered from my unlock code, except my IMEI (reverse calculate from the unlock token or database match - both of which are unlikely) which could be used by Moto to re-lock my BL but if they wanted to, they would've done it with the latest update.
I'm going with it!
Good luck, @samwathegreat
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Thanks. Keep in mind, we are NOT attempting to crack Moto's cryptography, as I well know that this isn't possible (in my lifetime, at least). Instead, we are trying to find if a single code has successfully unlocked more than one device. There isn't any proof, based on Dan Rosenburg's (author of the Razr M Bootloader Exploit) analysis of the "token validation" logic, that the code is based on the IMEI.....although it COULD be the case. This whole thing is quite the mystery - especially the "China Middleman" aspect of it.
Dan suggests it is based on the particular certificate / key / hash / q-fuses for said devices. And once again....this is ALL based on complete speculation (as I've stated many times (don't care to count how many). )
Thanks to anyone who contributes and thanks for creating this effort! I have a BL locked Mini and it's a 2013 version so not only can I not pay (he only unlocks 2014s right now), but I don't have PayPal and I don't have $45. Really, this might work and so please post your codes if you want to help people like me... we can never know if it works until we try.
Sent from my XT1030 (Droid Mini)
Is there a way to retrieve the code? I'm unlocked via the Tao bao site on the first go around. I used the IM feature on the site to communicate so I don't have the code in an email. I can't remember for the life of me how I signed on to look to see if it's still there. Is the code stored on the device anywhere once unlocked?
Sent From My Droid Ultra
Caseyk621 said:
Is there a way to retrieve the code? I'm unlocked via the Tao bao site on the first go around. I used the IM feature on the site to communicate so I don't have the code in an email. I can't remember for the life of me how I signed on to look to see if it's still there. Is the code stored on the device anywhere once unlocked?
Sent From My Droid Ultra
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No way to retrieve it from the device itself....and I'm not familiar with Taobao (or how to look up a prior purchase from there). You can try searching your email (if you even received one) for your IMEI, as he usually included it along with the unlock token.
Aside from that, I don't have any suggestions. Thanks for trying to help though.
If moto x gets a way to unlock bl for free, it could help us a lot!
I just wanted to say "THANKS!" to all the ---jerks--- that are putting bogus info into the form.....like "12345", or the most recent "1".....yeah, thanks for the humor you're giving me. Including Mr. XDA username "a"...how original....
Nice to get a good laugh every now and then.....knowing I can simply erase your bogus data away with one simple keystroke... LMAO
Collecting just unlock code make no sense. I think that code AT LEAST a hash code of IMEI. Well it might be not a IMEI but serial number or what ever. They run hashing on security chip and verify the signature. The chance of two phones having the same code is veeeeery low. In another words you won't find equal codes, I know for sure. The only way is to get how they calcualte the code but that would be hard because you don't know what it comes from and you have nothing at all, not even IMEI or serial.
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Collecting just unlock code make no sense. I think that code AT LEAST a hash code of IMEI. Well it might be not a IMEI but serial number or what ever. They run hashing on security chip and verify the signature. The chance of two phones having the same code is veeeeery low. In another words you won't find equal codes, I know for sure. The only way is to get how they calcualte the code but that would be hard because you don't know what it comes from and you have nothing at all, not even IMEI or serial.
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You might want to re-read the first post...specifically here:
samwathegreat said:
Also, I'm not suggesting that I'm right about this, or even COULD be right about this -- I'm merely suggesting a POSSIBILITY. It is entirely possible (probable, even) that I'm completely wrong / off-track about this. I wouldn't be surprised in the least. In fact, I'm actually EXPECTING it.
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and here:
samwathegreat said:
OK, sure, we understand that. Now examine the logic. Nowhere does Dan Rosenburg suggest that the TOKEN is unique to a particular IMEI, OR in any way validated or hashed against the IMEI. Only that it is based on certificates / keys / hashes STORED in the CID partition, and blown Q-fuses.
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and here:
samwathegreat said:
And finally, I'll end this post by saying that curiosity is very important to achieve any new breakthroughs. Making "educated guesses" based on analysis of available data is the only way to make innovations and new discoveries. It's OK to be wrong, as long you use what you have learned to build upon your knowledge and use this information to improve future analytics.
This is a hypothesis based on the [small amount of] data currently available. Nothing more.
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Dragon31337 said:
The only way is to get how they calcualte the code but that would be hard because you don't know what it comes from and you have nothing at all, not even IMEI or serial.
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Please consider that we have no interest in what you are suggesting....which is actually breaking Moto's encryption / master key. Based off my knowledge of key / certificate - based cryptography, I am well aware that even IF we had 10,000 VALID unlock token / IMEI combinations, it would STILL likely take -longer than our combined lifetimes- to crack the master key. And that's assuming you are correct about there being a correlation between Token & Serial / IMEI. Have you considered "q-fuses"? Moto very well could have blown q-fuses (identically) in more than one device...
Personally, I have no interest in -that-. I'm not seeing what purpose collecting the IMEI combinations would have, other than deterring people from actually participating in this because they don't want to share their IMEI...
So my questions really is: What are you trying to say that I haven't already? Self-admittedly, this probably won't work....said it more times than I care to count in the first post alone...
And finally, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, and I welcome to you "speculate" however you wish! Lets just please not clog up this thread with any more of it. This thread has a specific purpose, and I'd like to keep it at that. Thanks
Many of the Motorola Users who have msm8960 devices unlocked their bootloaders using this method...
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
iAjayIND said:
Many of the Motorola Users who have msm8960 devices unlocked their bootloaders using this method...
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
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Which doesn't apply at all to this device. That is for the RAZR HD.
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Many of the Motorola Users who have msm8960 devices unlocked their bootloaders using this method...
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
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Which doesn't apply at all to this device. That is for the RAZR HD.
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That is Dan Rosenberg's method. I've mentioned his name multiple times in the OP, as well as his "Token Validation Logic".
Since the Razr M/HD AND the Moto X have the exact same SoC (MSM8960), his token validation logic likely still applies. @Topsnake is correct in that it will not work on the Moto X, but its because that method exploited a vulnerability in TrustZone to write to (blow) q-fuses in the secure area, thereby unlocking the BL.
All of this is described in the OP, but thanks for trying to add some useful info
Hello everybody. This idea is getting alot more interest in the Moto X section, and one user asked if we would be willing to share some details on the data collected so far. Here it is:
samwathegreat said:
Sure! I think everyone deserves to know the current status....
As of RIGHT NOW, we have:
86 submissions
of which 5 are completely and purposely BOGUS
and 2 sets (4 submissions) are -complete duplicates- and were posted from the same IP, within seconds of each other (I wonder if they really thought I wouldn't look at the timestamps / IP addresses?)
zero correlations
What I can also tell you is that IF the build dates entered are correct, we do have 3 sets (6 submissions) that have the same build date and are completely unique codes. This would seem to rule out the previously suggested idea that perhaps all units from a particular build date might use the same unlock-token.
Still need much more data to make any further (useful) correlations.
Hope everyone appreciates the update.... :good:
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Keep those submissions coming!
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION EVERYONE:
I've just received word that DAN ROSENBERG has found a bootloader-unlock exploit, and has just unveiled it at the BlackHat conference!!!!!!
I haven't verified it 100% yet, but if true, this is AMAZING!!!!
This means that until patched, we can all now unlock our bootloaders for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :good: :good: :good: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
EDIT: Guys, it appears to be 100% True!!!!!!
See the Reddit article here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2csyiq/
He just demonstrated this LIVE @ the Blackhat Conference!!!!
Hopefully it will be released soon for all the guys that missed the China boat.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger than yours" XT1080
That's great news. Hope it pans out for everyone!!
Sent from My Droid Ultra
OMG!!! this is GREAT NEWS FOR EVERYONE WITH A DROID MAXX ULTRA MINI X!!!!!!!
and its only a 3 page document (lol)
i hope he releases it to the public for free!
a new wave of unlocked BL are coming!
thanks for the heads up!
Having missed the China Boat as someone said earlier... This 2013 Maxx owner is hoping anxiously for this to come true quickly.

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