Who's attention do we need to get to start getting some love for custom roms on the bravo? I'm wondering if it would be relatively easy to accomplish given the hardware inside is pretty similar to the droid 2 and droid x. I believe it's identical minus clock speeds. Anyway, I would like some stock froyo or gingerbread on this baby to see it really shine. Not to mention 1-1.2GHz.
Yes please. That would be awesome.
Yea....
You know, guys, you cant just sit here and ask for custom ROMs and just hope it pops up somewhere. You have to help too! Make a system dumb of your Bravo and upload it to Mega Upload or something to start off helping...then go around to people and ask someone, for intense on the Defy form because the phones are similar, if they'll take your dump (yea sounds bad LOL) and make some sort of custom recovery out of it. WE NEED PEOPLES HELP if we plan to make this phone AWESOME .
Well, I have no idea how to go about doing that, but would be more than willing to work with people to get the info they need to help them. I'll do some searching on how to get the dump unless you have a link that outlines that sort of thing.
From what I'm seeing people just grab the /system/ directory? I'm in droid explorer but it doesn't seem to allow me to copy it. hmmmm
Ditto, would love to help get some roms for this thing, just need to get me to the right path and I am all over it. Not much of a coder but willing to try.
Have already installed android sdk and Eclipse on my system, total noob to Android.
Have you found out anything on system dump? Probably good palce to start.
YEP!
That is why it's called a system dump! So yea I know I've had that problem too, where it won't let you copy the /system. I recommend the DroidExplorer program.
www.de.codeplex.com/releases/view/50997
Works great for me, IDK if it'l work with the Bravo as good as my Flipout (busted my Bravo, but it's fixable with an SBF or a .ZIP) So anyways please let me know if that works so someone can start developing!
Link gave me server error will try it again later on.
Here's what I have found out so far;
Using Eclipse/ADT I can see my whole system from Eclipse Explorer and watch it as it's running. From here I can push and pull (adb) from here. I have would attach a screen shot but need to wait till I have such privileges.
I could start to actually make system changes from here, but that would be suicidal since I am still new at this.
What I would like to do is download, copy, maybe dd from terminal, not sure how to, my current device rom to an emulator so I can experiment with it (rather trash the emulator than my phone).
If anyone an help with this (haven't figured this out yet) would be of great help.
Also have not investigated yet but Motorola Clig, Shadow, XT800, Kobe (Bravo), Milestone, Droid 2, Droid Pro, and Defy are all OMAP 36XX processors so I am thinking roms from these could/maybe (use at own risk I AM NO EXPERT) work on the Bravo.
As soon as I figure out all the above I am still ignorant in (don't want to brick this phone) I will start experimenting with the roms.
Any help in these areas would be greatly appreciated as it would also be a major time saver, googling for what I have so (which isn't much far) has taken weeks.
Also have not investigated yet but Motorola Clig, Shadow, XT800, Kobe (Bravo), Milestone, Droid 2, Droid Pro, and Defy are all OMAP 36XX processors so I am thinking roms from these could/maybe (use at own risk I AM NO EXPERT) work on the Bravo.
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Closer look Xt800 and Milestone are the closest w/the XT being the one which would appear to be be best choice. So later this evening will head over to XT posts and see what I can dig up, right now need to go sell some cookies with my daughter.
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Yes please. That would be awesome.
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I would too, Im getting phone tomorrow and have a few rooting progams and droid explorer (wich I dont know how to use)
Maybe sum luck here
This phone will get 2.2 soon, trust me on this! Once it does, someone will grab an SBF (a stock 2.2 Bravo SBF) for this. I think a main reason for this phone not being developed on is because none of these files necessary exist. Hopefully when 2.2 is released some one WILL get a hold of it, an update.zip, an SBF...I think the'll all work. So yea, just some good news. Oh, and don't ask how I know, I KNOW.
someone might already have their hands on the 2.2 update.zip.
I found in the market an app called "android dump". Does anyone know if that will do what we need it to do? And what is the steps we need to follow to get some support for this device? Just upload to media fire? I will go ahead and do that when I get a chance and post back gere when I have done so. anyone with additional instructions ios greatly appreciated.
Already done!
Just uploaded system dump to mediafire. In case you want to know how, just run adb and do the command pull /system.
Oh, btw, heres the link!
http://www.mediafire.com/?7z1onzpuh90zuqn
BTW i already got jboogie (dev working on defy) and asked him if he had any chance of porting it to the Bravo by just making some minor changes. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877058&page=92
without clockworkmod or something we cant even use roms, good thing i just saw this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955075
this guy is porting koush's work to the bravo!
he needs an sbf though, can we help him?!?!?!
also 2.2 is far imo, its not even on motorola's update roadmap.
It's in testing right now. 2.2 that is.
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It's in testing right now. 2.2 that is.
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the man is correct. almost had my hands on it.
If you guys are that close to it then surely you can get an SBF of 2.1??? pretty please?
I am porting Clockworkmod using Koush's bootstrap recovery and am close to a working test but am not willing to test it on my gf's unit without an SBF at this point, she just got it and she bought it on ebay so i am not sure if she will have warranty issues with at&t (probably)
so without and sbf i am looking for someone who has perhaps cracked their screen and is getting an insurance replacement, you can test my work and if it bricks your phone then no one is out anything, it will be sbf'ed at the factory anyways. even a warranty replacement is fine, but there is a little risk but i have never had problems with that. they just sbf the things. not boot them up and look for root lol. plus you already voided your warranty if you want to be techincal when you rooted
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If you guys are that close to it then surely you can get an SBF of 2.1??? pretty please?
I am porting Clockworkmod using Koush's bootstrap recovery and am close to a working test but am not willing to test it on my gf's unit without an SBF at this point, she just got it and she bought it on ebay so i am not sure if she will have warranty issues with at&t (probably)
so without and sbf i am looking for someone who has perhaps cracked their screen and is getting an insurance replacement, you can test my work and if it bricks your phone then no one is out anything, it will be sbf'ed at the factory anyways. even a warranty replacement is fine, but there is a little risk but i have never had problems with that. they just sbf the things. not boot them up and look for root lol. plus you already voided your warranty if you want to be techincal when you rooted
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I work at att. The bravo is less then a year old so your gf is covered even if it was purchased from ebay. If you brick it just do the exchange by mail safer then in store.
What does the exchange cost because I got mine free as an upgrade phone and unless you have insurance it's my understanding that once the thirty day warranty is over it's all on you.
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What does the exchange cost because I got mine free as an upgrade phone and unless you have insurance it's my understanding that once the thirty day warranty is over it's all on you.
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It has a one year manufacture's warranty on it which will protect against manufacture defects which would cover software failure if they did not find out device is rooted.
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The Bravo is Bricked! I rooted it, got board, tried to install custom ROM through a Droid method (REALLY STUPID OF ME!!), and now my phone is stuck in boot loops. It goes into recovery and all, bootloader too, so I fugured I could just flash an sbf with RSD and get it back running again. The only problem is I can't find an sbf file for this phone ANYWHERE and it's driving me crazy!! So if anyone has any information on where you could find an sbf file for this phone or when it would maybe be available I would love it
Thanks
Unfortunately,
Since AT&T is the only carrier that has this phone, you will have to wait until an upgrade is released from AT&T
And it would have to be a major update such as 2.1 -> 2.2 where the SBF is available.
You could always try calling AT&T and see what they can do for you in terms of warranty....long shot
So, no?
Come on, I have got 400 viewers of this thread, nobody has any ideas?
Yea dude I have been wating for the same thing. I have been pretty hesitant to do any major modding to my bravo until I know I can get it back from the grave should I do anything to totally mess it up. Is there no way to get what we need untill an update is released for the phone. I am pretty new to android having previously being a jailbroken Iphone user for years, but is there no way to get what we need from the bravo somewhere in its file system. Like I said i am still learning the different aspects of modding android so if anyone does know a solution, I'm all ears. Thanks.
Haha
Yea, got a little to crazy with it. It's because I realized it's potential, and noticed at had roughly the same specs as the Droid X, not thinking I ran the Bootstrap thing that allows custom recovery, so I could use an awesome custom rom, and it died. I mean I could completely recover it, it goes to the bootloader and the recovery, but hey I think were in luck, 2.2 for this things coming 1st Q 2011, and it'l be floating around somewhere, someone will grab it.
Awesome news. thanks for the heads up.
hey, where did you hear that it was getting updated to 2.2 in Q1? I can't find any news about that on the web, although it'd make me really happy...
I feel bravo is the loneliest phone in the world.
I also haven't seen anything about a 2.2 upgrade. Checked the Motorola upgrade site and they don't show anything in any quarter of any year regarding upgrading to 2.2. Could be a pipe dream.
Have you tried Super One Click or z4root to see if you can recover your system.
may be because the Motoglam (similar if not almost identical to the Bravo) is getting an upgrade in Asia where someone thought that the Bravo is getting the upgrade... I hope it does, would be nice for it to happen...
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may be because the Motoglam (similar if not almost identical to the Bravo) is getting an upgrade in Asia where someone thought that the Bravo is getting the upgrade... I hope it does, would be nice for it to happen...
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It's not similar at all.
Motoglam -> TI OMAP3430 (500 Mhz)
Bravo -> TI OMAP3610 (800 Mhz)
And similar doesn't mean that much, the Defy is 99% identical with only the addition of a flash and a search button on the face plate, but some of the things that can be done with modifying the defy can't be done (yet) on the Bravo.
Now the other major difference in he Defy and Bravo is that the Defy is is a non US phone, looks like mostly EU.
From what I can see here http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Android_Products/Software_Update_Landing_Page?vgnextoid=69fd5fc943dc0210VgnVCM1000008806b00aRCRD so far there are no plans for updates.
2.2 sbf..
ay killa...don't know if you knew this or not but there's a 2.2 SBF out now through Bandroidx. Works straight through Bootloader and RSD. Pretty automatic. Flash is sweet too.
Hey all, I talked to koush and he said he was ok with me porting his Droid2/X/Pro bootstrap to the motorola bravo.
Basically it will work the same way as on those devices, you load the bootstrap app on the phone, and reboot into recovery. the phone reboots and clockwork mod then loads and you can install .zip's (like the gb keyboard, etc) do nandroids, install rom's etc.
you cant install custom kernels because of the locked bootloaders on these devices, this is the only drawback.
I am going to need some testers and even better if someone could get me the SBF file for this phone that would be so awesome. Its gotta be easy to find, its been out for a while and its an old software 2.1-update1 that i think is the same since release. Please let me know!
if you want to follow my work or help my github is :
https ://git hub.com/bandroidx - put the space back between git and hub i cant post links either
This should work with 2.2 so even if it drops soon, that is a ok. That wont make this project any less important, we need a way to get a custom recovery booted no matter what.
Update 2/19/11 - I hope to have a testable version done by the end of my long weekend (have off monday) will need testers very soon so keep in touch if your serious about testing. Anything I release will be a confirmed working on atleast 1 device (my gf's) build hopefully.
4-20-11: In final development, release imminent.
Ok i am almost ready for testers. You will need android sdk tools w/ adb and your phone must be rooted.
I need to finalize a few things, a sbf would really help, doesnt someone work for at&t and can get this?
Sent you a PM, but I can't tell if it actually was delivered. Please let me know if you got it. I am interested in testing my Bravo, but naturally, have some reservations. Thanks.
i am so limited by this 10 post thing, hopefully i get out of it fast.
i am trying to test it on a bravo emulation i got going in the simulator too, its being problematic but my gf has a real bravo for me to test on
an sbf would be nice, anyone?
i am asking some people for a sbf, maybe i can see about making a system only sbf like they did for the dx, that might work too.
MODERATOR please approve me so i can post in dev forums! argh!
I have talked to some people about an SBF and havent found anything yet. Someone must work for at&t or moto and can get this, all their stores have it probably to reflash phones.
But until then I need someone who is willing to risk bricking their phone because they are sending it back for warranty work. Yes it could void your warranty but I have never heard of this, we bricked a **** ton of droid x's before we had an sbf and had no problems.
Even better would be someone who is sending it to insurance to rpelace it because of a broken screen or something, that would be a great test unit.
So ask around, find someone for me, I should have a working test very soon.
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I have talked to some people about an SBF and havent found anything yet. Someone must work for at&t or moto and can get this, all their stores have it probably to reflash phones.
But until then I need someone who is willing to risk bricking their phone because they are sending it back for warranty work. Yes it could void your warranty but I have never heard of this, we bricked a **** ton of droid x's before we had an sbf and had no problems.
Even better would be someone who is sending it to insurance to rpelace it because of a broken screen or something, that would be a great test unit.
So ask around, find someone for me, I should have a working test very soon.
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P3Droid seems to be really good at getting his hands on leaked Motorola files. I've asked if he could get a Bravo SBF but was ignored. Since you are actually doing something productive, maybe he would be more apt to respond to you.
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Ok i am almost ready for testers. You will need android sdk tools w/ adb and your phone must be rooted.
I need to finalize a few things, a sbf would really help, doesnt someone work for at&t and can get this?
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Ok, I am willing and able to aid you in any way I can with my bravo. it is rooted and ready to go. I do work for AT&T but only in sales and customer service, so I don't have hands on access to the .sbf for the phone. But if you know of any means for me to get it or request it, i.e. the rout or channel I should attempt to get it, that would be great. Thanks so much for your effort in this and let me know if there is anything I can do.
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P3Droid seems to be really good at getting his hands on leaked Motorola files. I've asked if he could get a Bravo SBF but was ignored. Since you are actually doing something productive, maybe he would be more apt to respond to you.
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Thanks its a good idea, as I already tried it
He cant get it, he only gets vzw.
his reply "@bandroidx I doubt it, no connects outside of VZW/Moto"
if you want to follow me on twitter i am @bandroidx
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Ok, I am willing and able to aid you in any way I can with my bravo. it is rooted and ready to go. I do work for AT&T but only in sales and customer service, so I don't have hands on access to the .sbf for the phone. But if you know of any means for me to get it or request it, i.e. the rout or channel I should attempt to get it, that would be great. Thanks so much for your effort in this and let me know if there is anything I can do.
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Thanks, I am not sure how At&t is but with verizon they have tech support in the stores so someone can bring a bricked phone in and get it fixed (or replaced) while they wait, etc. Does AT&T work the same way? In that case, you could contact someone at the store and get it with a good story to the tech guys. they usually are underpaid and younger kids at vzw and will easily obey any request from corporate imo. I am fairly sure this how most sbf's get out, unless its from like an inside engineering dept or from the manfucaturer themselves but those are problably more rare.
Thanks a million if you can get this that would be great. Otherwise i think we need to hope for someone with a broken screen ,etc that is getting a replacement. I would not want to brick someones perfectly good phone with no way to recover. It happens, even with the best testing and coding.
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Thanks, I am not sure how At&t is but with verizon they have tech support in the stores so someone can bring a bricked phone in and get it fixed (or replaced) while they wait, etc. Does AT&T work the same way? In that case, you could contact someone at the store and get it with a good story to the tech guys. they usually are underpaid and younger kids at vzw and will easily obey any request from corporate imo. I am fairly sure this how most sbf's get out, unless its from like an inside engineering dept or from the manfucaturer themselves but those problably more rare.
Thanks a million if you can get this that would be great. Otherwise i think we need to hope for someone with a broken screen ,etc that is getting a replacement. I would not want to brick someones perfectly good phone with no way to recover. It happens, even with the best testing and coding.
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I think I know a way to get it. Now att does warranty exchanges is they send you a new or refurbished device and you send the broken one back to them when you get it. However, there is one store in my state that doubles as a warranty device exchange center. Basically if you don't want to wait on your device in the mail you can get it replaced there. I think that would be the only store that would have the files. I just need to think of a good excuse for them to put it on a flash drive for me or to email it to me. I think they would be more about to do it if they new I worked for att and I had a good enough excuse. I'll let ya know what I can find out.
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I think I know a way to get it. Now att does warranty exchanges is they send you a new or refurbished device and you send the broken one back to them when you get it. However, there is one store in my state that doubles as a warranty device exchange center. Basically if you don't want to wait on your device in the mail you can get it replaced there. I think that would be the only store that would have the files. I just need to think of a good excuse for them to put it on a flash drive for me or to email it to me. I think they would be more about to do it if they new I worked for att and I had a good enough excuse. I'll let ya know what I can find out.
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Awesome let me know, that is def. a good idea. On a phone that has been out for so long and the SBF is for released software so even though they dont let them go out in the wild openly, they are quite available. [mbm] was surprised that its not out yet for a phone released that long.
Some other good news just incase, i talekd to p3droid again and explained what i was doing in better detail and he is going to try to find this for us. He said he will shake the tree and see what falls out or something to that effect. But its at&t and not vzw, so def. still try to get it if you can without getting fired!
Just never admit you want it to release it or that you released it. I will help you release it to cover you and insulate you further if you want. I will load it up on my french seed box
Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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If you have a system SBF to test at some point, please let me know. I'll be happy to test it for you.
bandroidx said:
Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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bandroidx, was just checking in to see if you got my PM. I actually sent two because after I sent each one it said I had 0 sent messages. If not I'll shoot ya an email. Thanks.
Yes i got your pm and just replied.
I have a testable apk but it hasnt been tested yet. I am unable test it on the emulator but am working on other ways to test it.
the good news is i built the whole thing with help from the guy who ported CWM to the defy which is very similar and he thinks it looks good.
basically waiting on a sbf or someone with a device going back for replacement that can boot into the os and run an app (broken scren probably would be good)
OK i have the recovery ready to testi it will be first come first serve for testers. I will be back online around 10pm EST monday night to find some testers. send me your gtalk around then if your interedted.
bandroidx
CWM port to Moto Bravo
I too work at At&t and have an able and willing Bravo to put on the line for the sake of testing, if you still need help, I did use the CW for my Aria, so I have a little experience with it. Good luck, and I hope you guys get this thing going. I'm ready to throw Cyanogenmod on this baby!
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I too work at At&t and have an able and willing Bravo to put on the line for the sake of testing, if you still need help, I did use the CW for my Aria, so I have a little experience with it. Good luck, and I hope you guys get this thing going. I'm ready to throw Cyanogenmod on this baby!
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I have a testable copy that is using code confirmed working on the defy so should be good.
If you want to try it, there is some risk of bricking or needing sbf (which we dont have) but it should be recoverable in most scenarios because of the way the hijack works, all you need is a rooted phone.
if someone goes wrong it should go back to normal on next reboot.
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I have a testable copy that is using code confirmed working on the defy so should be good.
If you want to try it, there is some risk of bricking or needing sbf (which we dont have) but it should be recoverable in most scenarios because of the way the hijack works, all you need is a rooted phone.
if someone goes wrong it should go back to normal on next reboot.
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Hi , I have a bricked Moto Bravo, that is boot looping
So...
I'll be happy to test the sbf and report back
got a link for DL ?
I have a Motorola Droid X from Verizon and allowed the OTA update to install. I now have v 2.3.3 and it looks really nice. Gingerbread. However, I noticed that my superuser was gone and no app would bring it back. I read all sorts of things about flashing back the ROM to Froyo, rooting, then installing a special 2.3.3 update. That is going to wipe my phone and maybe my card so I did not want to do it. But, I noticed today that I have a few black horizontal streaks in the LCD screen, easy to see on a white background. This is bad, the LCD screen has bad pixels and is on the way out so I put in a claim for a replacement Droid X and it will be here tomorrow.
Since this phone will already be "wiped" until I install all my stuff again, I would rather get this rooting done now and not have to worry about it later. I have no idea if the phone I am getting will be 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 but will find out tomorrow when FedEx gets here.
Somebody please give me some URLs to "known to work" rooting on a Motorola Droid X that I can use and tips and advice. I had no problem rooting until I hit the brick wall of 2.3.3. If ever there was a time to get this over with, that would be now. Also, will I be not using OTA updates anymore and where will I get future updates? I can use and own a Linux machine, have flashed BIOS and older phones, but really cannot afford to mess this one up. Please give good links and advice. Thank you.
Sincerely,
~Ohmster
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I have a Motorola Droid X from Verizon and allowed the OTA update to install. I now have v 2.3.3 and it looks really nice. Gingerbread. However, I noticed that my superuser was gone and no app would bring it back. I read all sorts of things about flashing back the ROM to Froyo, rooting, then installing a special 2.3.3 update. That is going to wipe my phone and maybe my card so I did not want to do it. But, I noticed today that I have a few black horizontal streaks in the LCD screen, easy to see on a white background. This is bad, the LCD screen has bad pixels and is on the way out so I put in a claim for a replacement Droid X and it will be here tomorrow.
Since this phone will already be "wiped" until I install all my stuff again, I would rather get this rooting done now and not have to worry about it later. I have no idea if the phone I am getting will be 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 but will find out tomorrow when FedEx gets here.
Somebody please give me some URLs to "known to work" rooting on a Motorola Droid X that I can use and tips and advice. I had no problem rooting until I hit the brick wall of 2.3.3. If ever there was a time to get this over with, that would be now. Also, will I be not using OTA updates anymore and where will I get future updates? I can use and own a Linux machine, have flashed BIOS and older phones, but really cannot afford to mess this one up. Please give good links and advice. Thank you.
Sincerely,
~Ohmster
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Let me start by saying, there isn't any possible way to brick this phone. This security comes from the SBF files we can use to return the phone to pure stock.
Secondly, you can use a one click method to root the phone straight from 2.3.3, even with the .602 update.
Follow the instructions here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php...ded-for-Windows-Linux-OSX)&p=76046&viewfull=1
And even though it says Droid 3, it supports most Motorola phones. (Including the Droid X)
I hope I could help =D
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Ok, this might be a MEGA noobish question, but i have never dealt with Android before so please bare with me XD
I have just (yesterday) got my Atrix on tmobile in the uk, an would like to root it to use Aura ROM to get the 2.3.4 features and general improvements it seems to bring, but is there any reason to wait any length of time?
Its my understanding that Android is completely OpenSource, so is rooting it voiding any warranty, or is it OK with carriers? I ask since tmobile offers a 14 day period to make sure im happy with the phone, and that it all works fine, which it seems to after my extensive playing/testing over the last 2 days, but if it does go wrong i wouldnt want to take it in, rooted, and have them say they cant help me.
any clearing up of this would be much appreciated!
You should wait until the return period is over before rooting it. This will give you time to make sure nothing is physically wrong with it. Rooting alone will not void your warranty. However, unlocking the boot loader will and you need to do that to load a custom recovery so that you can flash another ROM. An unlocked message will get displayed on the start up screen. Some carriers may not pay much attention to that when returning it. Motorola will most likely notice if you need to use the manufacturers warranty though.
Root will void your warranty, wait till the trial period is over just to be safe...
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i got my phone from AT&T and rooted it as soon as i got home, a week later i ended up hard bricking my phone and went into the AT&T store and got it replaced for free. now, i did also pay for insurance on my phone so if anything happened to it (even if it's my fault) i'd get it replaced, but it seemed as if the representative had no clue what he was talking about. i was honest with them and everything and told him i was trying to unlock the phone when it happened, and he just kind of smiled and nodded and then pulled out a new phone out of the back. i asked how much i owed him, and he told me nothing.
point of the story is, i wouldn't worry about rooting the phone. it's possible that you won't be able to get it replaced, but chances are the rep you talk to either won't know what rooting is, or won't care. unlocking your bootloader though, i'd definitely wait a little while.
thanks, that is a good point though that people in the shop probably wont understand/care about rooting etc.
Though your reply, Alcapone, has confused me slightly i thought rooting and unlocking the bootloader were one and the same, but apparently not. could you please explain what is different, and is there any reason for me to root without unlocking the bootloader?
basically for now, since im on tmobile who seem quite slow at updating, i just want to get a way to put gingerbread on the phone. im ok with waiting 2 weeks for roms, but 2.3.4 i could do with now, if its possible, can that be done just by rooting?
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ishamm said:
thanks, that is a good point though that people in the shop probably wont understand/care about rooting etc.
Though your reply, Alcapone, has confused me slightly i thought rooting and unlocking the bootloader were one and the same, but apparently not. could you please explain what is different, and is there any reason for me to root without unlocking the bootloader?
basically for now, since im on tmobile who seem quite slow at updating, i just want to get a way to put gingerbread on the phone. im ok with waiting 2 weeks for roms, but 2.3.4 i could do with now, if its possible, can that be done just by rooting?
many thanks
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rooting your device is just giving it root access, so apps can access parts of the system that they normally couldn't. rooting is extremely easily, and reversible. there are multiple ways to do it, i would suggest either the one click root for all gingerbread devices here
or the preinstall method here
now, unlocking the bootloader is a lot different. it pretty much enables you to install custom firmware onto your device. you can install a custom recovery that allows you to install amazing ROMs such as CM7, Aura, Ninja, Alien, Red Pill, Homebase, etc. etc.
i'm still assuming you're on gingerbread, so unlocking your bootloader is a panicky process. you'll get a fake hard brick (0x1000 error), but all you have to do is boot into fastboot mode and type the command 'fastboot oem unlock'. you can find a really awesome script that will do it all for you here
now, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty. it gives you a bit of text on your boot logo (the motorola screen) that says 'unlocked' and allows your carrier to know you voided the warranty. it's also irreversible, once unlocked always unlocked. so make your decision wisely
nevermind, just skimmed over your post again. my apologies, i misread a few parts originally, you'll need to unlock your device to install a custom ROM with gingerbread. you can unlock your device by flashing the .sbf files you can find in this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
ishamm said:
thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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After you get the bootloader unlocked and cwm recovery installed going back to factory settings is as easy as installing a stock ROM. Which is pretty damn easy
And rooting alone isn't enough to get you gingerbread.
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awesome, thanks again. one last question (for now at least ) before i dive in, is this all possible on a mac, i noticed a lot of the rooters (if thats the right word?) are .exe which worried me slightly, im away from my windows machine for 2 weeks now. if not i guess thats as good a reason as any to not void my warranty for now XD
ishamm said:
awesome, thanks again. one last question (for now at least ) before i dive in, is this all possible on a mac, i noticed a lot of the rooters (if thats the right word?) are .exe which worried me slightly, im away from my windows machine for 2 weeks now. if not i guess thats as good a reason as any to not void my warranty for now XD
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You can go to the ihop thread in the dev forum and use the Mac sbf flasher provided there. After that use the sbf that corresponds to your device. Flashing the wrong sbf can brick your device so maker sure you get the right one. Then boot into fastboot and use the fastboot OEM unlock command.
You can root as well on a Mac i'm sure, I just wouldn't know how. I'm guessing the preinstall method I linked would work.
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ishamm said:
Ok, this might be a MEGA noobish question, but i have never dealt with Android before so please bare with me XD
I have just (yesterday) got my Atrix on tmobile in the uk, an would like to root it to use Aura ROM to get the 2.3.4 features and general improvements it seems to bring, but is there any reason to wait any length of t
Its my understanding that Android is completely OpenSource, so is rooting it voiding any warranty, or is it OK with carriers? I ask since tmobile offers a 14 day period to make sure im happy with the phone, and that it all works fine, which it seems to after my extensive playing/testing over the last 2 days, but if it does go wrong i wouldnt want to take it in, rooted, and have them say they cant help me.
any clearing up of this would be much appreciated!
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if you know how to root id do so. i already rooted, and also bricked my atrix. flashing the 4.2 sbf unbricked it and rerooted no problems so far, just the benefits of root (using apps that can only work with root permissions, flashing custom roms) also why flash Aura and run 2.3.4 when you can flash honeyatrix and run honeycomb 3.1?
rob219 said:
if you know how to root id do so. i already rooted, and also bricked my atrix. flashing the 4.2 sbf unbricked it and rerooted no problems so far, just the benefits of root (using apps that can only work with root permissions, flashing custom roms) also why flash Aura and run 2.3.4 when you can flash honeyatrix and run honeycomb 3.1?
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Honey atrix isn't really honeycomb. It's gingerbread with a bunch of mods installed to make it resemble honeycomb
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Alcapone263 said:
Honey atrix isn't really honeycomb. It's gingerbread with a bunch of mods installed to make it resemble honeycomb
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oh ok been running it along time so why does my android version say 3.1 and not 2.3?
rob219 said:
oh ok been running it along time so why does my android version say 3.1 and not 2.3?
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It uses some files from honeycomb that edits the version number. It's still gingerbread, trust me.
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Alcapone263 said:
It uses some files from honeycomb that edits the version number. It's still gingerbread, trust me.
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i see well not gonna argue about it, just askin. still a great rom and very fast. i change alot of the look to my preference though. i may like the features and speed but im not a big honeycomb theme fan, i like my status bar white and such.
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i see well not gonna argue about it, just askin. still a great rom and very fast. i change alot of the look to my preference though. i may like the features and speed but im not a big honeycomb theme fan, i like my status bar white and such.
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You should check out cm7. It's extremely customizable and really, really fast.
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Alcapone263 said:
You should check out cm7. It's extremely customizable and really, really fast.
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na not yet maybe after beta when everything works, kinda over cm now. new phone new roms hoping some new ones pop up here soon, but ill probly check out cm when its out of beta but most likely wont keep it as default.
after a bit of research it seems rooting on a mac is pretty tricky, since i dont have a vast ammount of terminal experience. is there a way i can forward some sort of app to the phone and root from the phone itself?
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thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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The 2 weeks is a return window with tmobile. Motorola, and most vendors, offer a one year manufacturer warranty. That is the warranty you void when unlocking the boot loader. Just wanted to clarify that bit.
ah thanks, i guess motorola WOULD notice its unlocked then. after some reading i think i'll use CM7, seems less likely to kill the phone, right?
the phone is insured, i guess it would be covered by that if i bricked it for good? if not i could take a hammer to it and claim it was a 'terrible accident' XD
Move my post if you feel the need. I hate picking forums. Anyways. I have a XPRT from boost mobile running android 2.3.5 and I have been working for a few days to no avail in any vulnerabilities to rooting. Searching for users with same model and objective?
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Anyone with the same phone please post or PM me.
Anybody? Seriously?
Almost 300 views and no responses? Anyone have the same model and want to collaborate?
I would really like to see some type of update this is crazy that no one has done anything with this system yet.
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I would really like to see some type of update this is crazy that no one has done anything with this system yet.
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You have the the same model and carrier right?
BlackFire27 said:
You have the the same model and carrier right?
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There is currently no way to root the Boost Mobile version of the XPRT at the moment. I looked around and tried the .zip file from sd and it bricked. I have talked to numerous people who tried the Sprint .SBF which bricked the system to. Right now you will just have to sit back and wait and see if someone comes up with something. Sorry for the bad news.
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There is currently no way to root the Boost Mobile version of the XPRT at the moment. I looked around and tried the .zip file from sd and it bricked. I have talked to numerous people who tried the Sprint .SBF which bricked the system to. Right now you will just have to sit back and wait and see if someone comes up with something. Sorry for the bad news.
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Well that sucks ._. I do believe that a heavy amount of editing was done to the software and firmware by Boost. But this isn't bad news. Its actually a huge relief that finally I've gotten some feedback. We need a small community of people wishing to root this phone. Developer or not.
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Well that sucks ._. I do believe that a heavy amount of editing was done to the software and firmware by Boost. But this isn't bad news. Its actually a huge relief that finally I've gotten some feedback. We need a small community of people wishing to root this phone. Developer or not.
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Well I would love to just get a stock sbf so I can get mine working again lol.
Yes, rooting the boost version would be great, they just have so many restrictions on the phone. No hotspot, tethering is very limited, Hoping someone will find something soon.
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Well I would love to just get a stock sbf so I can get mine working again lol.
Yes, rooting the boost version would be great, they just have so many restrictions on the phone. No hotspot, tethering is very limited, Hoping someone will find something soon.
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This is actually my first Motorola phone. Lol. I normally used HTCs beforehand. Would you be so kind as to explain what an SBF is and where they come from?
An SBF ( SYSTEM BOOT FILE) file from what I gather is the original Image of the Phone. It's kind of like if you are running a windows computer you need a Windows image to run the operating system. The same is true for a cell phone. The only place to get them is have them leaked from Motorola Techs. Each tech has different level access to be able to work on your phone.
A normal tech has Level 1 and Level 2 access which can look at your phone and figure out what is wrong. The "head Motorola Techs" have Level 3 and Level 4 access and they are the ones who actually can pull the files ( SBF ) and do the reflashing and other needed services.
This may not be totally accurate but it is what I have put together from the massive amount of research and reading I have done on these phones. If anyone has anything to add or correct please do because I don't want to give bad information. =/
I have currently been browsing around a lot, and trying to figure out this development thing. I am also reading currently on how the "rooting" process is achieved on phones. I have a moderate amount experience on linux machines so the reading is going fairly easy. Hopefully we can get some real DEVS in here to help us out.
That's a nice amount of research. I appreciate that. And android is linux. So you may find some nice similarities. I personally am much more experienced on the hardware side of the computer world ._. I need to brush up on my coding...and from what I assume. Root is achieved by exploiting the kernel in order to pretty much shove Busybox into the root filesystem. The Su binary. And the Superuser app.
From what I understand YES, that is exactly how it is done.
But getting permission is the challenge.
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But getting permission is the challenge.
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Anyone know of a way to get the drivers and stuff to work on a linux machine? I just can't seem to find anything.
What I don't understand is the sbf file is like a backup of everything on the phone, if they can put it there, there has to be some way of pulling it off. I would like to know and understand why we can't pull the .sbf file off of the phone it's self? Any developers out there give me a shout and fill me in?
Well what an sbf seems to be basically a zip encoded specially for Motorola devices. I don't think its really possible to get it off without a factory reset and a custom recovery or bootloader.
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Well what an sbf seems to be basically a zip encoded specially for Motorola devices. I don't think its really possible to get it off without a factory reset and a custom recovery or bootloader.
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That is what I was wondering about. Thanks.
I find it odd how carriers feel they need to go so far to prevent rooting, I find it wrong.
This is atleast my perspective. I go out to buy lets say a computer from best buy. I have the right to change anything on the computer, hardware and software.
Even mircosoft lets you modify (they just don't want you stealing it)
Their os and have built in applications to do so.
So why when I buy a phone and I can't do it. All of it is my property, Hard/software. If I brick it it'll bee my fault. Meaning I'll have to buy another one.
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bingo here is the sbf http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30831590#post30831590
You cant root the Sprint Gingerbread (Leaked version) and the Boost as well. I tried lots of tools, but nothing.