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Just wanted to put this out there, this is an idea space
Couple ideas we may get going:
* Someone leaks a working Engineering / Test Build
* Find a leak in the HTC Sync software (it has to use root to do the internet sharing)
What's been tried:
* Writing to /cache or /data/local
* Mounting system as rw lol
* Anything and everything with Fastboot
* A few other things that I can't think of right now
Has anyone tried flashing the engineering leak via gold card method? My guess is... our best bet is the internet sharing. The question is how to exploit it...
Personally, I gonna try via htc sync. I already tried fastboot with no luck too. I'm not as savy as you guys but may be dumb luck will be on my side today.
Why does that internet sharing have to use root? pdanet and easytether dont?
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Why does that internet sharing have to use root? pdanet and easytether dont?
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Well I havent even figured out how to get it to share the internet. Sync works but no internet sharing yet. May be I can try something in adb... thta is a good point. I used to use pdanet all the time before root on my G1. Hmmm.... I guess we'll have to see. Im gonna keep trying. Maybe Wes might have better luck. Im not giving up. I need a good android phone w/ kb. Not returning yet...
I believe the tmobile champions slide had a test build on it prior to slides launch,at least the guy at my tmobile store said his phone was running beta a week prior to launch,unfortunatly can't find any dumps.he was talking some crazy stuff about his friend already having a patch to oc the cpu to 800mhz.
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I believe the tmobile champions slide had a test build on it prior to slides launch,at least the guy at my tmobile store said his phone was running beta a week prior to launch,unfortunatly can't find any dumps.he was talking some crazy stuff about his friend already having a patch to oc the cpu to 800mhz.
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That sounds about right. Oh god, champions slide?! Does that mean there are two different types of boards? This might complicate things a bit. I dispise when manufactors make two different types of boards for the same phone model. This is G3 and G4 all over again in the wizard subforums. I hate HTC sometimes, lol!
Don't worry sino8r, a champion is just the t-mobile term for a member of the marketing team that gets early access to a model to train the retail associates. They got a slide just like the to-market one, but it had a beta build of Eclair w/sense etc.
Not crazy 12 different boards for one phone.... At least I don't think that's the case.
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I'm curious of this myself. I'll try it, F it, I'll send back if bricked. Where can I get the leaked build?
Its a no go on the gold card boys. Was loading for a while, then checking for a while, then right back to boatloader with no options to flash. This is based off of this leak.
EDIT: If there is another image to try, i will, just let me know.
Anyone try the method being used to root the Incredible?
This may sound silly, I haven't had the chance to really sit down and mess with stuff yet. However, with the adb shell, and the eclipse ide, is there anyway to make a mock version or virtual machine out of the slide, and then blast the hell out of it without fear of bricking?
In talks with hykuro he thinks the unrevoked method should work on all unpatched phones.
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Tried the unrevoked method, with 6 shells spamming adb, and rebooting for 30mins no go.
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god I wish he'd help a bit. He knows his stuff. we need to offer him and Paul some donations or something.
I am willing to donate some cash to the cause.
If anyone is willing to handle the pool, I'd throw $10 at it.
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And i have a hot $20.... C'mon, if we all get on this it would be worth their while.
I got some chedda on it.
Yeah, I'd be in for $20. If we get root on this thing I'm going to be thrilled. I wish I could do some of the work, but I'm a complete n00b with development, so I'd not be much help.
But I'm good for some money.
I definitely have another $20 on it if someone will get root.
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Who's attention do we need to get to start getting some love for custom roms on the bravo? I'm wondering if it would be relatively easy to accomplish given the hardware inside is pretty similar to the droid 2 and droid x. I believe it's identical minus clock speeds. Anyway, I would like some stock froyo or gingerbread on this baby to see it really shine. Not to mention 1-1.2GHz.
Yes please. That would be awesome.
Yea....
You know, guys, you cant just sit here and ask for custom ROMs and just hope it pops up somewhere. You have to help too! Make a system dumb of your Bravo and upload it to Mega Upload or something to start off helping...then go around to people and ask someone, for intense on the Defy form because the phones are similar, if they'll take your dump (yea sounds bad LOL) and make some sort of custom recovery out of it. WE NEED PEOPLES HELP if we plan to make this phone AWESOME .
Well, I have no idea how to go about doing that, but would be more than willing to work with people to get the info they need to help them. I'll do some searching on how to get the dump unless you have a link that outlines that sort of thing.
From what I'm seeing people just grab the /system/ directory? I'm in droid explorer but it doesn't seem to allow me to copy it. hmmmm
Ditto, would love to help get some roms for this thing, just need to get me to the right path and I am all over it. Not much of a coder but willing to try.
Have already installed android sdk and Eclipse on my system, total noob to Android.
Have you found out anything on system dump? Probably good palce to start.
YEP!
That is why it's called a system dump! So yea I know I've had that problem too, where it won't let you copy the /system. I recommend the DroidExplorer program.
www.de.codeplex.com/releases/view/50997
Works great for me, IDK if it'l work with the Bravo as good as my Flipout (busted my Bravo, but it's fixable with an SBF or a .ZIP) So anyways please let me know if that works so someone can start developing!
Link gave me server error will try it again later on.
Here's what I have found out so far;
Using Eclipse/ADT I can see my whole system from Eclipse Explorer and watch it as it's running. From here I can push and pull (adb) from here. I have would attach a screen shot but need to wait till I have such privileges.
I could start to actually make system changes from here, but that would be suicidal since I am still new at this.
What I would like to do is download, copy, maybe dd from terminal, not sure how to, my current device rom to an emulator so I can experiment with it (rather trash the emulator than my phone).
If anyone an help with this (haven't figured this out yet) would be of great help.
Also have not investigated yet but Motorola Clig, Shadow, XT800, Kobe (Bravo), Milestone, Droid 2, Droid Pro, and Defy are all OMAP 36XX processors so I am thinking roms from these could/maybe (use at own risk I AM NO EXPERT) work on the Bravo.
As soon as I figure out all the above I am still ignorant in (don't want to brick this phone) I will start experimenting with the roms.
Any help in these areas would be greatly appreciated as it would also be a major time saver, googling for what I have so (which isn't much far) has taken weeks.
Also have not investigated yet but Motorola Clig, Shadow, XT800, Kobe (Bravo), Milestone, Droid 2, Droid Pro, and Defy are all OMAP 36XX processors so I am thinking roms from these could/maybe (use at own risk I AM NO EXPERT) work on the Bravo.
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Closer look Xt800 and Milestone are the closest w/the XT being the one which would appear to be be best choice. So later this evening will head over to XT posts and see what I can dig up, right now need to go sell some cookies with my daughter.
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Yes please. That would be awesome.
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I would too, Im getting phone tomorrow and have a few rooting progams and droid explorer (wich I dont know how to use)
Maybe sum luck here
This phone will get 2.2 soon, trust me on this! Once it does, someone will grab an SBF (a stock 2.2 Bravo SBF) for this. I think a main reason for this phone not being developed on is because none of these files necessary exist. Hopefully when 2.2 is released some one WILL get a hold of it, an update.zip, an SBF...I think the'll all work. So yea, just some good news. Oh, and don't ask how I know, I KNOW.
someone might already have their hands on the 2.2 update.zip.
I found in the market an app called "android dump". Does anyone know if that will do what we need it to do? And what is the steps we need to follow to get some support for this device? Just upload to media fire? I will go ahead and do that when I get a chance and post back gere when I have done so. anyone with additional instructions ios greatly appreciated.
Already done!
Just uploaded system dump to mediafire. In case you want to know how, just run adb and do the command pull /system.
Oh, btw, heres the link!
http://www.mediafire.com/?7z1onzpuh90zuqn
BTW i already got jboogie (dev working on defy) and asked him if he had any chance of porting it to the Bravo by just making some minor changes. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877058&page=92
without clockworkmod or something we cant even use roms, good thing i just saw this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955075
this guy is porting koush's work to the bravo!
he needs an sbf though, can we help him?!?!?!
also 2.2 is far imo, its not even on motorola's update roadmap.
It's in testing right now. 2.2 that is.
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It's in testing right now. 2.2 that is.
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the man is correct. almost had my hands on it.
If you guys are that close to it then surely you can get an SBF of 2.1??? pretty please?
I am porting Clockworkmod using Koush's bootstrap recovery and am close to a working test but am not willing to test it on my gf's unit without an SBF at this point, she just got it and she bought it on ebay so i am not sure if she will have warranty issues with at&t (probably)
so without and sbf i am looking for someone who has perhaps cracked their screen and is getting an insurance replacement, you can test my work and if it bricks your phone then no one is out anything, it will be sbf'ed at the factory anyways. even a warranty replacement is fine, but there is a little risk but i have never had problems with that. they just sbf the things. not boot them up and look for root lol. plus you already voided your warranty if you want to be techincal when you rooted
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If you guys are that close to it then surely you can get an SBF of 2.1??? pretty please?
I am porting Clockworkmod using Koush's bootstrap recovery and am close to a working test but am not willing to test it on my gf's unit without an SBF at this point, she just got it and she bought it on ebay so i am not sure if she will have warranty issues with at&t (probably)
so without and sbf i am looking for someone who has perhaps cracked their screen and is getting an insurance replacement, you can test my work and if it bricks your phone then no one is out anything, it will be sbf'ed at the factory anyways. even a warranty replacement is fine, but there is a little risk but i have never had problems with that. they just sbf the things. not boot them up and look for root lol. plus you already voided your warranty if you want to be techincal when you rooted
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I work at att. The bravo is less then a year old so your gf is covered even if it was purchased from ebay. If you brick it just do the exchange by mail safer then in store.
What does the exchange cost because I got mine free as an upgrade phone and unless you have insurance it's my understanding that once the thirty day warranty is over it's all on you.
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What does the exchange cost because I got mine free as an upgrade phone and unless you have insurance it's my understanding that once the thirty day warranty is over it's all on you.
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It has a one year manufacture's warranty on it which will protect against manufacture defects which would cover software failure if they did not find out device is rooted.
Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
It's only right to HONOR the source's request. You don't like it? Go find a Motorola contact.
If you think that companies like Moto cant digitally sign software. Oh wait whats that boot loader issue again?
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Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
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Its clearly stated in the thread, the source does not want the file given out. Mods can we please close this thread before it starts a war over a file thats not being released.
I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
That's like someone saying here's a free lambo, but the catch is you can't take it out of the garage so I don't get in trouble.
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I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
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Because the Atrix isn't accepting the file through RSD, xoom uses a similar chipset. So hes asking the Xoom devs for help making RSD work. Hes not flaunting hey I got the sbf and you don't.
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Because the Atrix isn't accepting the file through RSD, xoom uses a similar chipset. So hes asking the Xoom devs for help making RSD work. Hes not flaunting hey I got the smf and you don't.
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Oh no I understand DG isn't being an ass or anything, I was just curious.
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Oh no I understand DG isn't being an ass or anything, I was just curious.
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I can promise you, if anything comes out of this. DG will give out all the info he can.
well of course i don't mean to start a war but yes i am curious i thought any sbf file would work with rsd lite and when i started the thread i didn't see an indication that the file didn't work right now. Rather, i was happy because it looks like dg got an atrix back (he even said in another topic that he tested debian on the atrix)
I would understand if the file hasn't been leaked because it didn't work, although dg isn't the only dev and maybe the other guys can make something about it, but the file can't get traced back to the original insider.
Probably just need the right version of RSD lite
sorry i am not a dev i am just curious on dev, what is the significance of a SBF file? is that equalivent of an OS of a pc? where we can wipe the pc clean and load os at will?
it lets you reload your stock os if the phone gets bricked so hard and adb cannot be used. it's basically the #1 reason of why dg returned his phone, because he had the risk to brick his phone and couldn't go back to stock. it seems that he has his phone back which is very nice for us.
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it lets you reload your stock os if the phone gets bricked so hard and adb cannot be used. it's basically the #1 reason of why dg returned his phone, because he had the risk to brick his phone and couldn't go back to stock. it seems that he has his phone back which is very nice for us.
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If you have the SBF and software to flash it, motorola phones become stupidly hard to actually brick. It saved me a couple times on my old backflip
The sbf will, from what I understand, give devs a better idea on how the bootloader works. Hopefully this takes them.one step closer to unlocking it.
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If it's true that DG has his Atrix back, then woot! At least he'll be able to dev much more safely, and won't go through 9999 devices.
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As DG is valued member of the developer community I imagine that someone more or less attempted to bribe him with it to keep his atrix and continue developing. This in no way is meant as a slight against his source or DG.
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As DG is valued member of the developer community I imagine that someone more or less attempted to bribe him with it to keep his atrix and continue developing. This in no way is meant as a slight against his source or DG.
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Yea, I could see someone giving him a bribe especially if they had a captivate before this (been running perception for a llllooonnggg time now). Although I respect the leeks wishes, I do think he/ she is maybe a tad paranoid. I'm sure enough people have access to this at moto that they couldn't trace it back with any amount of certainty.
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well of course i don't mean to start a war but yes i am curious i thought any sbf file would work with rsd lite and when i started the thread i didn't see an indication that the file didn't work right now. Rather, i was happy because it looks like dg got an atrix back (he even said in another topic that he tested debian on the atrix)
I would understand if the file hasn't been leaked because it didn't work, although dg isn't the only dev and maybe the other guys can make something about it, but the file can't get traced back to the original insider.
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Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
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Yea, I could see someone giving him a bribe especially if they had a captivate before this (been running perception for a llllooonnggg time now). Although I respect the leeks wishes, I do think he/ she is maybe a tad paranoid. I'm sure enough people have access to this at moto that they couldn't trace it back with any amount of certainty.
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Wow, you guys seem to be pretty certain about something you know not much about then again it is not your job that is on the line here. I find it even more interesting that you think because many people have access to it that is difficult to trace. I can tell you from experience depending on the deployment method, you can trace this stuff to a particular machine and user. I personally do not know what motorola is doing but I am glad he is respecting the source wishes.
Back in WM days Microsoft was known for doing this stuff. Many time when you got an internal leaked build, you had to go through it to ensure there were no finger prints. You literaly had to scrub it to ensure traces were gone.
Thread Closed, any sub-sequential threads regarding this will also be closed in respect for DG and his source. Do not press this issue.
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
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I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
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True, that's unappealing...just when it's perfect you have to wipe and then you have to set it up again. I used to worry more about that but now that I've had to set-up again about 5 or 6 times I've become a master at doing it quickly and better than before. I totally love having root...wouldn't do it any other way.
I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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undervolting each freq by 125mV is way to good to pass up
no way would I ever use stock
It's just not the right time. I wait until a "real" custom rom comes out.
What for? I can use my SD card if I need to. Which I don't. Got 3.2 a couple of days ago. If I want to play with roms and overclocking I have my phone rooted. But for now I don't need it.
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Really?
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I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
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How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
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Good point. Any more reasons?
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For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
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It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
I Agree
I cannot imagine using any of my android devices without at least su file capabilities
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It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
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Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
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Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
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This is great because it says that people love the Xoom right out of the box, or fresh from the stock update.
As I said, having experienced both, I will choose the ability to truly customize to my hearts content. But for those who are happy with plain vanilla, enjoy!
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I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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+1 I have no reason to root.
the speed, battery life, etc. etc. are all fine for what I use it for - nothing heavy - just a replacement for browsing the web and a few games like angry birds
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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there's no real custom roms out that give you any benefit to flashing a new rom, and I am on 3.2 - not even put an sdcard in the xoom yet.
all movies/tv shows are streamed direct to TV or to Xoom via Plex, so i dont need extra space to store movies,
I only have the wifi version so i dont need space for travelling around with 3g.
the only time I may need more space and thus an sdcard would be if i go on holiday and want to take a few films on the sd - but even in a readonly state i can do that by loading films onto an sd and sticking it in now...
my only grief was that motorola were taking an aeon to push out any updates to the UK image I had on - but flashing the US fixed that and I decided I dont need to go any further down the rooting process... I'm happy - surely that's the best way to be
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Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
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I was basically trying to get some conversations started as to why and why not to root the WiFi xoom so people on this forum understand where the other team is coming from. Thought this thread title and my choice of words would draw some good debate. And it would keep the debate here and not all over the forum.
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I get what people are saying here, if you're happy with what you've got then by all means you should stick to it. No-one should be telling you what to like.
However, I do support the OP. If you are NOT happy with what you've got but there is a fix for it, why not just apply the fix instead of complaining?
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I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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I for one am too new to Android to root my Xoom. I have a G2x phone. It has a one step Root method and a one step Recovery method. I'm ok with that. But looking at all the ABD steps and the instructions on how to make them work....I feel its too complicated for a limited return at this time.
If someone put together the Bible of rooting the Xoom, that does NOT begin with , " This assumes you have an understanding of xxx", then maybe I would...
I took the Xoom out of the box...I want to Root, do this, then this, then this. Include what needs to be installed, what to type, etc, etc.
If that sounds whiney...so what, you asked.
so I have a bricked MF3 build.
I've read up and down, and at this point it can't be fixed. bootloader locked, etc.
I had an idea of flashing the 4.3 leak onto the S4 in hopes of fixing the /system/ partition since only one file is messed up that is causing the phone to bootloop.
if I could locate the 4.3 leak -- will it fix my soft-brick?
hypothetically speaking it should, right?
all directions that speak of flashing the file ask that the phone be ON the MF3 baseband.
is the odin file for JWR66V on the i337 signed so that I could flash it in Odin and get my phone working again?
sounds like it should work, please any input?
Nope. MF3 baseband is the modem needed. That can be flashed to MDL. The MF3 OTA completely locks your bootloaders... You're screwed.
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graydiggy said:
Nope. MF3 baseband is the modem needed. That can be flashed to MDL. The MF3 OTA completely locks your bootloaders... You're screwed.
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Needed for what? graydiggy, please fix that partial sentence "That can be flashed to MDL."
Solidus636 might be screwed like you say, but your answer leaves me wondering why.
That is not a partial sentence. OP cannot flash anything on the MF3 firmware update.
The MF3 baseband can be separately flashed onto MDL. At that point, one would be able to flash 4.3.
Since there is no way to flash using MF3, OP goofed.
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That is not a partial sentence. OP cannot flash anything on the MF3 firmware update.
The MF3 baseband can be separately flashed onto MDL. At that point, one would be able to flash 4.3.
Since there is no way to flash using MF3, OP goofed.
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Thank you for the clarification.
Why are these people that took the OTA MF3 update from AT&T trying to flash in the first place?
How are they getting root or a recovery? It makes no sense to me.
Solidus636? What did you do (please include details) how did you do it? It would be helpful for everyone to learn what not to do.
We are able to get root with no issues. Just no recovery.
Why? People don't read. They don't care that they could brick a $650 phone. They deserve it.
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graydiggy said:
We are able to get root with no issues. Just no recovery.
Why? People don't read. They don't care that they could brick a $650 phone. They deserve it.
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Thanks, I read up on getting root for MF3 OTA and it says right up front CAUTION THERE IS NO RECOVERY
and rooting looks like it's more complex, I remember the Android Debug Bridge, and I'm glad I was able to get in early with motochopper and then casual and I'm pleased with the GoldenEye Rom. Just a tap and a swipe bar in the TWRP recovery. I see how I dodged a bullet back in June when I froze AT&T Update service with Titanium Backup. I'm lucky. And it took me a long time to grasp all the terminology and what the difference is between root and getting a custom recovery, and I'm sure that it's not the amount of reading one does, but rather comprehension. That's why when I print in here I try not to leave anything out.
Whiz kids like yourself forget what it's like to wonder if there is a difference between installing a zip or flashing one and could care less on articulating the details you take for granted.
There's not a fix in the world for solidus636's handset cuz he blew the E fuse huh? Not sure what that is and barely understood it when I read about it.
I loathe AT&T. Now they locked the bootloader. What a bunch of creeps. I almost didn't get the S4 because of the shrunken SIM but I found an adapter so I can light up all those old phones in my gun safe. It's how I roll. I would never buy a handset you couldn't pull the battery on. And everytime I see a new connector plug I go on a rant about UL listed and deregulation. Instead of making a one size fits all battery, almost every device has a different shape size and fit.
Ok all done complaining now. Beg pardon for bending your ear. I think you like it tho, and will find something to be smart alec about.
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Thank you for the clarification.
Why are these people that took the OTA MF3 update from AT&T trying to flash in the first place?
How are they getting root or a recovery? It makes no sense to me.
Solidus636? What did you do (please include details) how did you do it? It would be helpful for everyone to learn what not to do.
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i Rooted the phone.
then i messed with the /framwork-res.apk and accidentally renamed it to /framework-res.apk.bak and now there is NO framework-res.apk file inside /system/framework/ meaning i am soft-bricked until I can get the MF3 Odin file or a file higher than that....
i also didn't accept the RSA keys to default to accept on my computer, meaning I can't access ADB it says OFFLINE. if I could access ADB this would've been an easy fix by renaming the framework-res.apk.bak file back to framework-res.apk, but I messed up:/
graydiggy said:
We are able to get root with no issues. Just no recovery.
Why? People don't read. They don't care that they could brick a $650 phone. They deserve it.
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i don't deserve anything. i made a mistake and forgot to take precaution. i'm not blaming anyone, i asked a simple damn question....so get off your damn high horse. LOL..... sigh.
fukenbiker said:
Thanks, I read up on getting root for MF3 OTA and it says right up front CAUTION THERE IS NO RECOVERY
and rooting looks like it's more complex, I remember the Android Debug Bridge, and I'm glad I was able to get in early with motochopper and then casual and I'm pleased with the GoldenEye Rom. Just a tap and a swipe bar in the TWRP recovery. I see how I dodged a bullet back in June when I froze AT&T Update service with Titanium Backup. I'm lucky. And it took me a long time to grasp all the terminology and what the difference is between root and getting a custom recovery, and I'm sure that it's not the amount of reading one does, but rather comprehension. That's why when I print in here I try not to leave anything out.
Whiz kids like yourself forget what it's like to wonder if there is a difference between installing a zip or flashing one and could care less on articulating the details you take for granted.
There's not a fix in the world for solidus636's handset cuz he blew the E fuse huh? Not sure what that is and barely understood it when I read about it.
I loathe AT&T. Now they locked the bootloader. What a bunch of creeps. I almost didn't get the S4 because of the shrunken SIM but I found an adapter so I can light up all those old phones in my gun safe. It's how I roll. I would never buy a handset you couldn't pull the battery on. And everytime I see a new connector plug I go on a rant about UL listed and deregulation. Instead of making a one size fits all battery, almost every device has a different shape size and fit.
Ok all done complaining now. Beg pardon for bending your ear. I think you like it tho, and will find something to be smart alec about.
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i didn't blow the e-fuse. i messed up one single file within /system/framework/ and the moment an odin flash file is released with mf3 , even only the system.img will be the moment I can fix my device... but i asked if we could do this or not. seems it's bricked for now.
solidus636 said:
i don't deserve anything. i made a mistake and forgot to take precaution. i'm not blaming anyone, i asked a simple damn question....so get off your damn high horse. LOL..... sigh.
i didn't blow the e-fuse. i messed up one single file within /system/framework/ and the moment an odin flash file is released with mf3 , even only the system.img will be the moment I can fix my device... but i asked if we could do this or not. seems it's bricked for now.
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You are educated and knowledgeable beyond my own level of intelligence. If I could help I would. If anyone comes up with a petition for a class action against AT&T for locking their bootloader I'm all in. Too bad you can't boot all the way up and get root explorer to fix your file name.
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You are educated and knowledgeable beyond my own level of intelligence. If I could help I would. If anyone comes up with a petition for a class action against AT&T for locking their bootloader I'm all in. Too bad you can't boot all the way up and get root explorer to fix your file name.
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there is!
https://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
sign it!
solidus636 said:
there is!
https://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
sign it!
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I signed it. Thanks for the link
solidus636 said:
there is!
https://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
sign it!
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I didn't sign it because I don't do "facebook". It would appear my wife just signed it. LOL
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I didn't sign it because I don't do "facebook". It would appear my wife just signed it. LOL
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you don't need facebook to sign it.........
fukenbiker said:
You are educated and knowledgeable beyond my own level of intelligence. If I could help I would. If anyone comes up with a petition for a class action against AT&T for locking their bootloader I'm all in. Too bad you can't boot all the way up and get root explorer to fix your file name.
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The only posts I have seen from you are trying to get people to file a class action lawsuit against AT&T and to start petitions. Why don't you either shut the hell up about it or do it yourself.
First:
AT&T does not have to provide unlocked bootloaders . Those are not open source. They can do whatever they damn well please with THEIR bootloaders. A lawsuit would be fruitless.
Second:
Stop trying to get people to do what you want. If you want it, do it yourself. If you are too lazy to do it, shut your mouth. You sit here and preach all this BS but are too lazy to even sign a petition that was linked to you. You act like you're 12. Only a kid would put forth so much talk but absolutely no action.
I will start reporting every post from you that has anything to do with you trying to get people to do what you want in regards to this topic, if i see one more. I and many others are tired of seeing it. You are spamming the forums with it.
OP Google the odin file you are looking for or use the search function here in the forums
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graydiggy said:
The only posts I have seen from you are trying to get people to file a class action lawsuit against AT&T and to start petitions. Why don't you either shut the hell up about it or do it yourself.
First:
AT&T does not have to provide unlocked bootloaders . Those are not open source. They can do whatever they damn well please with THEIR bootloaders. A lawsuit would be fruitless.
Second:
Stop trying to get people to do what you want. If you want it, do it yourself. If you are too lazy to do it, shut your mouth. You sit here and preach all this BS but are too lazy to even sign a petition that was linked to you. You act like you're 12. Only a kid would put forth so much talk but absolutely no action.
I will start reporting every post from you that has anything to do with you trying to get people to do what you want in regards to this topic, if i see one more. I and many others are tired of seeing it. You are spamming the forums with it.
OP Google the odin file you are looking for or use the search function here in the forums
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An EXCELLENT scolding! I KNEW you would find my prattle fodder for discussion!
You're dead wrong however, as I am busy.
I have a day job being a g*[email protected] lineman that I won't bore you with, but something up your self righteous research and document alley would be the web page that I constantly try to improve: http://lango.us
If they start the revolution, it might be without you and your own laziness, but I do not intend to be counted out.
So go ahead. Tell me to shut the hell up again.
I bet you're a profile picture of a Libtard.
fukenbiker said:
An EXCELLENT scolding! I KNEW you would find my prattle fodder for discussion!
You're dead wrong however, as I am busy.
I have a day job being a g*[email protected] lineman that I won't bore you with, but something up your self righteous research and document alley would be the web page that I constantly try to improve: http://lango.us
If they start the revolution, it might be without you and your own laziness, but I do not intend to be counted out.
So go ahead. Tell me to shut the hell up again.
I bet you're a profile picture of a Libtard.
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Congrats on being nothing to me. I could care less how busy you are or what you do. I also noticed you brag about being a lineman... Cool story, bro. Another worthless piece of info. You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Everyone is out to get you, man. We gotta get this revolution rolling, bro. I don't even care to look at the link. I'm too busy with the real world. So... With all that said, shut the hell up. (see? I said it again.) No one cares. If you want to start a revolution, keep it off of XDA. This is not the place for your political agendas or views. This is not the place to get people to join your uprising against AT&T or anyone else for that matter. Take it to Facebook.
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google it
Do a search for" [AT&T][How To][FIX] Did you root MF3 then try to flash a custom recovery"
hopefully it works for you guys.
smcabete said:
Do a search for" [AT&T][How To][FIX] Did you root MF3 then try to flash a custom recovery"
hopefully it works for you guys.
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This really did work, thanks! Only allows booting into the os and trying factory reset doesn't work but arty least I can use it again until a fix for mf3 is found.
Yup.. I fell right into that trap too... just happens when you think about it too much. Just be happy with your phone and live with it till a dev can make it better in the future.