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Got my Note 4 Today :)

I got my Note 4 Today! I love it already. Once I get my old phone official transferred to a family a member I think I'm going to root her. But first I wnated to know whats the process for rooting? And is it possible to unroot without signs its been rooted in case I need to send it for repairs? Thanks

My advice, start reading a little. I think I have seen your questions answered before?

gravatrax1 said:
I got my Note 4 Today! I love it already. Once I get my old phone official transferred to a family a member I think I'm going to root her. But first I wnated to know whats the process for rooting? And is it possible to unroot without signs its been rooted in case I need to send it for repairs? Thanks
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There are many tutorial here on XDA about rooting, flashing etc.Read carefully and you'll be good to go.Also there is a section for question(Help&Troubleshooting), this is the general forum section, make sure where you post next.

Ah, cut him some slack, he's just excited he got a new phone!
But yes, you should do some reading before you do anything as drastic as modifying system files. There are tutorials and that will guide you through the process and a lot of threads discussing issues such as unrooting and warranty. Good luck!

As of right now, there is no known method to reset value of knox to default once rooted. Hopefully, someone will come up with a to root it without tripping knox or a way to reset the knox to default value. I also recently got my Note 4 and weighing in on whether I should root it or not.

I'm familiar with rooting and it's risks. I've rooted other devices. I just didn't want to dive headfirst into rooting this phone if I was not able to get it back to stock with no evidence of tampering. I have total equipment protection which covers any physical damage to the phone, and its come in handy in the past with devices that hav enot been rooted. I don't eve recall them doing anything at the store to check for modications to the software. Ultimately I plan on just rooting the device nad installing SU to get rid of bloatware and used some Xposed modules, no flashing of custom roms or anything.

gravatrax1 said:
I'm familiar with rooting and it's risks. I've rooted other devices. I just didn't want to dive headfirst into rooting this phone if I was not able to get it back to stock with no evidence of tampering. I have total equipment protection which covers any physical damage to the phone, and its come in handy in the past with devices that hav enot been rooted. I don't eve recall them doing anything at the store to check for modications to the software. Ultimately I plan on just rooting the device nad installing SU to get rid of bloatware and used some Xposed modules, no flashing of custom roms or anything.
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rooting a note 4 is extremely silly. you lose half the functionality including a nice secure app store. and you lose it permanently with no possibility of getting it back along with the warranty.

zurkx said:
rooting a note 4 is extremely silly. you lose half the functionality including a nice secure app store. and you lose it permanently with no possibility of getting it back along with the warranty.
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I've had mine 4 days and rooted it. Just becos....well, cos I always have! Nowhere did I readabout losing functionality app Store, Samsung's l assume?Care to expand on that further?? while I search it?
Gotta say I'm impressed with the note so far- -Spen rocks-- no more keyboard which for me is the best feature, still exploring.. Any hints on using the note 4 to it's fullest capablities would be greatly appreciated.
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you lose the knox secure app store and obviously all the apps like knox email and secure/business versions of common apps as well.

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obviously all the apps like knox email
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and secure/business versions of common apps as well.
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ok, thanks for your reply and heads up-my phone is pure indulgence, not for the business side of things. will keep in mind though, and look into this 'Knox' thing a bit more .
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But you don't lose access to the galaxy apps such as s write s health etc.? If that's so I really don't care. I will probably never even look at this so called Knox app store.

youre going to write off half your phone functionality permanently without even trying it out once ?

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youre going to write off half your phone functionality permanently without even trying it out once ?
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mate it would be really nice. you could explain what this "half the functionality" we are losing, is-Samsung Apps still work,. Google search turned up only one post regarding ''losing functionality" and that was yours?? So I am a bit confused?
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dibb_nz said:
mate it would be really nice. you could explain what this "half the functionality" we are losing, is-Samsung Apps still work,. Google search turned up only one post regarding ''losing functionality" and that was yours?? So I am a bit confused?
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you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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zurkx said:
you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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Off Topic: Is that a 4K screen? Damn that DPI must be pretty low I couldn't read without my glasses
Basically, yes, you lose Knox. Which is something that no app can replace right now. Knox is what iCloud Security is for iPhones. If somebody stoles your phone, you can track it, or delete everything and render it unusable to the thieft. Also, with knox and reactivation lock enabled, no one can root the phone and delete knox as it prevents to flash anything via Odin. It makes your phone really safe, but it's a worth losing.
I've rooted my phone since the first day I bought it. I don't have warranty as I've imported the phone from USA, so Samsung Argentina doesn't cover it. It's totally worth. If you use Kitkat, Xposed is the best addition for your rooted device. If you're in Lollipop, you can always flash custom themes/mods via Recovery. Root (almost) always is a benefit. I recommend you to enjoy your phone as is, and when you're prepared (or bored, whatever you want to call it), go ahead and root it. Congratulations and cheers!

zurkx said:
you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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Thankyou, I've had abitof a read up on Knox, I guess,.if this was a company phone, or I worked in IT then this ' feature would be the' bees knees'. fortunately its purely for pleasure!!
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Off Topic: Is that a 4K screen? Damn that DPI must be pretty low I couldn't read without my glasses
Basically, yes, you lose Knox. Which is something that no app can replace right now. Knox is what iCloud Security is for iPhones. If somebody stoles your phone, you can track it, or delete everything and render it unusable to the thieft. Also, with knox and reactivation lock enabled, no one can root the phone and delete knox as it prevents to flash anything via Odin. It makes your phone really safe, but it's a worth losing.
I've rooted my phone since the first day I bought it. I don't have warranty as I've imported the phone from USA, so Samsung Argentina doesn't cover it. It's totally worth. If you use Kitkat, Xposed is the best addition for your rooted device. If you're in Lollipop, you can always flash custom themes/mods via Recovery. Root (almost) always is a benefit. I recommend you to enjoy your phone as is, and when you're prepared (or bored, whatever you want to call it), go ahead and root it. Congratulations and cheers!
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nice, thanks for the info chap, I'm absolutely loving this thing. Root was done in first few hours, used CF Root and Odin all good.
Hope OP has enough info now to make a decision,
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I can see how Knox would be detrimental to someone in a business or tech related job where security is upmost importance however I am not that person so it's just something that' snot useful to me. I think for the time being I'll just keep the phone as is but eventually I will probably root it. I'm only a few days in and I already miss some of my apps and Xposed modules that I used one my One from when it was rooted.

Personally I wouldn't bother rooting. Losing a warranty isn't worth it considering the minimal benefits of rooting.
You'll soon learn to live without the limited additions that exposed offers, and you'll not miss the performance hit exposed offers the Note 4 which is slow enough already.
There is a thread that suggests alternatives to rooting.
If you're anything like me, you'll be onto another phone soon enough and no one will want to buy a phone with no warranty that someone's been trashing with Root.

Jonathan-H said:
Personally I wouldn't bother rooting. Losing a warranty isn't worth it considering the minimal benefits of rooting.
You'll soon learn to live without the limited additions that exposed offers, and you'll not miss the performance hit exposed offers the Note 4 which is slow enough already.
There is a thread that suggests alternatives to rooting.
If you're anything like me, you'll be onto another phone soon enough and no one will want to buy a phone with no warranty that someone's been trashing with Root.
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Not me I wen the Sprint easy pay route. I'll have this phone for the next two years. I think I'll wait till OTA of Lollipop comes out then wait for a stable root and do it then.

Does HTC still provide bootloader unlocking?

The last time I had an HTC phone, HTC provided a bootloader unlocking tool for phones bought on contract through carriers. Is this still the case? I'd probably end up having a Verizon model.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/unlockable-bootloader-t3357220
The GSM version will be unlockable. Unknown if Verizon will screw that up or not.

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God dam it. What is this bs with unlockable bootloader lately. This was my #1 choice. Now I guess I'll have to wait for the next nexus.
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@nitramus I think you have misread. For the 10 if you buy direct from HTC, it looks like the bootloader will be unlocked out of the box. If you buy from a service provider, it may be locked, but can be unlocked via the HTC website.

Might be because English is not my primary language but when I read this what I get is that it can not be unlocked.

nitramus said:
Might be because English is not my primary language but when I read this what I get is that it can not be unlocked.
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Yeah, you're not reading it correctly. HTC is still offering dev unlocking. You will be able to unlock it.

Sweet, thanks!

Awesome news, I hope verizon doesn't screw this up...
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gleggie said:
Awesome news, I hope verizon doesn't screw this up...
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Verizon branded devices are NOT unlockable through HTC Dev. Verizon requests that HTC block their branded devices from that service. Verizon users must rely on Java card or software exploits such as sunshine to be updated to work with the 10.

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Verizon branded devices are NOT unlockable through HTC Dev. Verizon requests that HTC block their branded devices from that service. Verizon users must rely on Java card or software exploits such as sunshine to be updated to work with the 10.
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Thanks for the info, would a carrier unlocked HTC 10 work on Verizon? I've been hearing mixed information
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gleggie said:
Thanks for the info, would a carrier unlocked HTC 10 work on Verizon? I've been hearing mixed information
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That's kind of tough to answer. First, according to the specs on HTC's page it does have the correct LTE and CDMA radios to work on Verizon. That being said, you would still have to get the device activated on Verizon's Network and that can be difficult with devices Verizon does not carry.
Second, responses from official HTC employees (e.g. Mo Versi and others) state that you will need to purchase the Verizon branded model, once available, to get full support. Seems to be intentionally vague. The answer to your question: it may well work and it may well not, you have to roll the dice to find out.

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That's kind of tough to answer. First, according to the specs on HTC's page it does have the correct LTE and CDMA radios to work on Verizon. That being said, you would still have to get the device activated on Verizon's Network and that can be difficult with devices Verizon does not carry.
Second, responses from official HTC employees (e.g. Mo Versi and others) state that you will need to purchase the Verizon branded model, once available, to get full support. Seems to be intentionally vague. The answer to your question: it may well work and it may well not, you have to roll the dice to find out.
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I'm wondering if someone will figure out how to trick Verizon into thinking the unlocked version is one of its own.

Ajfink said:
I'm wondering if someone will figure out how to trick Verizon into thinking the unlocked version is one of its own.
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You'd need to change the device CID to match Verizon's to trick them. For that, s-off is required, bootloader unlock will not give required access to change that.

Unlocked Bootloader

I am not all that familiar with unlocked bootloaders but after skimming some of the posts on the Moto Z Force I am seeing a lot of discussion about, I replied to one thread decided perhaps I should start a new.
The bootloader is able to be unlocked from the settings menu.
First you must go to settings then about phone. Go to build number and tap it 7 times. This will enable developer options.
Again go to the settings menu, go to developer options and there is a toggle for OEM unlocking.
Hope this helps as I am new to xda(new member, long time reader)

LeeMullinsII said:
I am not all that familiar with unlocked bootloaders but after skimming some of the posts on the Moto Z Force I am seeing a lot of discussion about, I replied to one thread decided perhaps I should start a new.
The bootloader is able to be unlocked from the settings menu.
First you must go to settings then about phone. Go to build number and tap it 7 times. This will enable developer options.
Again go to the settings menu, go to developer options and there is a toggle for OEM unlocking.
Hope this helps as I am new to xda(new member, long time reader)
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Dude you rock! But will this allow root? Using known methods like ping-pong or towel root? I've been with Samsung for 6 years, so this Moto z force thing is still new to me. And I'm just starting to dig through the threads on this.

I just made the switch from Samsung myself so I am not entirely sure. I happened to stumble upon that accidentally and saw a few questions about unlocking a bootloader. Now I am not sure if it makes a difference but my device is not under contract as I paid full price and activated on prepaid.

This will not unlock your bootloader
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This will not unlock your bootloader. This will not allow root. There is almost zero chance of this phone ever having its bootloader able to be unlocked and you can call Verizon at (800) 922-0204 to thank them for it. They are tyrants and I will never give them a dollar.

Yeah its the same for me, it will allow you to unlock the bootloader, but it will void the warranty so I haven't done it yet but I will later on. Hopefully it works! It make it really easy to root with Verizon.

Please read everything in this thread. Thank you.

Braydenc1997 said:
Yeah its the same for me, it will allow you to unlock the bootloader, but it will void the warranty so I haven't done it yet but I will later on. Hopefully it works! It make it really easy to root with Verizon.
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This is NOT an option to unlock your bootloader...sorry
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Yeah, it doesn't work that way with Big Red.
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Braydenc1997 said:
Yeah its the same for me, it will allow you to unlock the bootloader, but it will void the warranty so I haven't done it yet but I will later on. Hopefully it works! It make it really easy to root with Verizon.
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Checking this box will NOT unlock the bootloader. Anyone that has had a phone where you CAN in fact unlock the bootloader knows this.

Would quadrooter exploits work on this phone? This phone is running the snapdragon chip set and has the following vulnerabilities:
CVE-2016-2503, CVE-2016-2504 and CVE-2016-5204
Y'all should be able to check your phones as well using the quadrooter scanner app from play s.

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Would quadrooter exploits work on this phone? This phone is running the snapdragon chip set and has the following vulnerabilities:
CVE-2016-2503, CVE-2016-2504 and CVE-2016-5204
Y'all should be able to check your phones as well using the quadrooter scanner app from play s.
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It would take an experienced dev to turn those exploits into a root avenue for us. I doubt that person will show up for this device.

They may very well show up. This is a new phone and somewhat a power house. A lot of people leaving Samsung and coming to this device. I just left the gs6. So I am still holding up hope. It's still new and may take a little time.
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This will be one of the few Verizon phones which will get the Dev love it needs to be unlocked and rooted.Being now in my thirties and running Arch Linux for years I really don't care anymore,..there isn't a need for me ..I get my Rock's off on my box and keep my phone working .

I can clarify, my Moto Z Force does have those three vulnerabilities.
These vulnerabilities are global for Android MM, so perhaps someone, somewhere can use the exploit to gain root on Android - we'd be able to use that method on our phones. Here's to being hopeful!

Inquiry to join up with fellow Moto Z / Z Force owners (Verizon) to work on root.

Hello all! Just Inquiring to the geniuses that float around on this site about working to help bring root to this device. I have all the standard things (wired connection to PC, adb access, etc.). Just wondering if anyone needed any extra help or if they need someone to test methods out.
Before I get flamed, I DO know the risks of running commands incorrectly, and running them not knowing if it will work, not work or brick the device.
Currently looking into the mod interface as well. (Might be useful)

unless I understand incorrectly the biggest issue isn't root itself but the needed boot.img that requires an unlocked bootloader because if Android 6.

I'm going to inquire with Moto and see if they would be so gracious enough to unlock my bootloader since the option is there in dev settings. I know this might be a lost cause but maybe if I can get that done, and upload any stock images for people to tinker around with, do you believe it would help the dev community find an exploit?

WestTexasCoder said:
I'm going to inquire with Moto and see if they would be so gracious enough to unlock my bootloader since the option is there in dev settings. I know this might be a lost cause but maybe if I can get that done, and upload any stock images for people to tinker around with, do you believe it would help the dev community find an exploit?
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Will not happen. Verizon won't let them. Just wait for the unlocked version to come out and a dev to get that.

Question: when the unlocked version comes out, that won't matter to us stuck using big red's version, will it?

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Question: when the unlocked version comes out, that won't matter to us stuck using big red's version, will it?
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Dont know. It could or it might not. It could lead to the finding of an exploit that we can use. When that comes out we have better odds. Heck we might just be able to do a simple flash and flash some verizon stuff....Prob not knowing verizon but it could happen. My advice is not to update until we see how the unlocked versions development is going. But as of right now no one is working on this phone.
Good odds tho. Unlocked comes out and people start working on it to unlock even more stuff for more mod development we might get lucky and get some trickle down exploits that will free us.
But knowing verizon i bet they have something in the works to force people to update. Because they are shady like that. Oh here is a new moto mod. And its only $20 and will add like wireless charging and a second sd card slot....but it wont work unless you use this software update. And oh by the way it fixes that exploit. I could see them doing something like that. Using a cheap mod that would be awesome like a mod that gives wireless charging and a second micro sd card slot to force us to update to use it and patch a exploit.
Great phone only phone i have ever had that i did not require root and a bootloader unlock. Hell its the only phone i will use stock...Well i use nova launcher but not to speed it up. Just to block the verizon bloatware from my app list. God i cant wait for them to load down the phones with all the yahoo bloat now. My god help us next year.
yahoo maps
yahoo messenger
yahoo news
yahoo search
Just to name a few of the crap they will load down. Get a 32gig phone. 5gigs of it will be verizon and yahoo apps you will never use that cant be uninstalled.

If our project was only gaining root access, then the Verizon Moto Z / Z Force currently has vulnerabilities listed under quadrooter.
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/08/07/quadrooter/
The international version does come out soon and hopefully we can get some progress on the bootloader!
As far as gaining root access, if I knew how to code we would already have it since every Moto Z / Z Force has 3 of the quadrooter vulnerabilities. If you want screenshots of which ones and their details let me know :3

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As far as gaining root access, if I knew how to code we would already have it since every Moto Z / Z Force has 3 of the quadrooter vulnerabilities.
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That's a bold statement...
Do you have a development background? I wasn't sure from your first post and your last one.

Not well enough to attempt any of these vulnerabilities on my own. Each of the three vulnerabilities allows users to access root privilege on the device without the device being rooted.
I'll put the three vulnerabilities here.
1. https://www.codeaurora.org/invalid-path-check-ashmem-memory-file-cve-2016-5340.
2 and 3. https://www.codeaurora.org/use-afte...tions-kgsl-module-cve-2016-2504-cve-2016-2503
2 and 3 both are very similar, hence the reason for one URL.
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Been messing around with my development kit. Good chance of a bootloader unlock and root with this. Bad news is its going to be over $125 for you to get the dev kit. But I think I might be on to something. Won't go into details on here because we all know Verizon watches for stuff like this.
Still gathering more info before I test anything since this is my daily driver. I'll start work when I get my back up phone.
Method will require a dev kit and a PC. So it's not going to be something you can just plug into your PC

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Been messing around with my development kit. Good chance of a bootloader unlock and root with this. Bad news is its going to be over $125 for you to get the dev kit. But I think I might be on to something. Won't go into details on here because we all know Verizon watches for stuff like this.
Still gathering more info before I test anything since this is my daily driver. I'll start work when I get my back up phone.
Method will require a dev kit and a PC. So it's not going to be something you can just plug into your PC
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This sounds very promising! I've been doing a bit of research and I have a much broader understanding of how gaining root access is accomplished, but not necessarily the bootloader.
I can save up some money and grab a dev kit as well if you want another set of hands on this.
If you need my email let me know, but i've been messing around with some of the exploits and once i get back home (hooray for IT job) i'm going to try out the system-less root, then go from there.
Good findings, and I believe you're on the right track! I read up on what the mods can access and control on the Android system and I'm actually impressed by what it can access and do. Heck, maybe we can even get a script going to utilize most moto mods to allow access to certain areas that we need, aside from the extra battery. I doubt that one will allow any kind of unintended access to areas of the phone. :silly:
If I can grab any kind of root access, would images be helpful to the much smarter people here?

WestTexasCoder said:
This sounds very promising! I've been doing a bit of research and I have a much broader understanding of how gaining root access is accomplished, but not necessarily the bootloader.
I can save up some money and grab a dev kit as well if you want another set of hands on this.
If you need my email let me know, but i've been messing around with some of the exploits and once i get back home (hooray for IT job) i'm going to try out the system-less root, then go from there.
Good findings, and I believe you're on the right track! I read up on what the mods can access and control on the Android system and I'm actually impressed by what it can access and do. Heck, maybe we can even get a script going to utilize most moto mods to allow access to certain areas that we need, aside from the extra battery. I doubt that one will allow any kind of unintended access to areas of the phone. :silly:
If I can grab any kind of root access, would images be helpful to the much smarter people here?
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I figured the system for the mods would be the easiest way in. Working on a mod with my dev kit after that I'm going to start messing around more with seeing what I can do. There has to be something in here. First phone to use them first version of moto mods. There is somthing

Good chance root may happen tonight. Meet more work on it. But it won't be something everyone can do. Will require aoto mod dev kit and a fair amount of work. But if I can get it working tonight there seems to be some hope.

in4updates. Great work and keep it up! Only reason I want root is for new emojis haha. I will most likely unroot once 7.0 releases (assuming we get root before we get 7.0)

bignazpwns said:
Good chance root may happen tonight. Meet more work on it. But it won't be something everyone can do. Will require aoto mod dev kit and a fair amount of work. But if I can get it working tonight there seems to be some hope.
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Please don't break my heart.

Me either.. just got moto z force today ..Will speaker ,projector,battery wireless mod ..and a couple backs...But boy root and Roms would be a bonus...
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Nevermind project scrapped.

bignazpwns said:
The method i used 99% of the people here will not be able to do. Requires a moto mod dev kit and some other stuff. I'll work on getting the getting the bootloader from the non Verizon version on it when i get it. As of right now im back to working on my Moto mod so it will be a week or two before i go back to this.
Progress will be very slow. This is my only phone i sold my 6p so i cant do anything to risky on this. I got some ideas on working out a cheaper version. Drop the price of hardware needed from $200+ to $80.
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this photo looks shopped, poorly as well

bignazpwns said:
Been messing around with my development kit. Good chance of a bootloader unlock and root with this. Bad news is its going to be over $125 for you to get the dev kit. But I think I might be on to something. Won't go into details on here because we all know Verizon watches for stuff like this.
Still gathering more info before I test anything since this is my daily driver. I'll start work when I get my back up phone.
Method will require a dev kit and a PC. So it's not going to be something you can just plug into your PC
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Where can I get my hands on this kit?

bignazpwns said:
Nevermind project scrapped.
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lol why? because you got caught?

True Verizon Pixel 2 XL Unlocked Bootloader (Not Google Ver) Refurb Devices Look Here

This might be a long shot for anyone else but I managed to allow the verizon version of the pixel 2 xl to let me unlock the bootloader. I can try and explain what i did to get work. I am working on the pictures and the post for you guys. Bare with me as I was pretty excited.
EDIT: I received a direct verizon replacement as you can see.
Im still dumb founded. Phone came with opd3.170816.012. Which is the verizon flash. I did muliple things try to flash new images, unlock, hidden keys and so forth this whole time no sim card and no wifi and with wifi. I tried changing oem unlock multiple times and going in and out of stock recovery and doing multiple random steps not getting nowhere, then finally booted up and decided to say f**k it. I let it connect to wifi and let it update to newest version march. I let it reboot and checked dev settings for the heck of if and to turn on adb. Boom! OEM unlocking was highlighted. I rebooted and checked it again still highlighted. Then went to recovery and fastboot flashing unlock along with critical.
The wire and the line are blocking the imei number.
EDIT 2: The Last two pics. One from verizon website is the pixel on the left in the last pixel pic side by side and the one on the right on the website is the one on the right. Obviously. The picture of the two side by side was taken with the third pixel 2 xl locked from verizon.
EDIT #3: Two more pictures showing that last four of the imei on http://www.imeipro.info/check_lg.html and the last four on my phone (wifes phone) asking for root request.
EDIT #4: Seems the two different phones I am showing is confusing people. So here is a better side by side.
Her phone
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My phone
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My phone
Then here is her phone with the same last four on the imei

It's an unlocked one. Verizon replacements from Verizon stores are Google unlocked ones. Thanks for getting hopes up for the billionth time lol.
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What exactly did you do. Step by step
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Never mind. You couldn't toggle oem unlock until you connected to the internet.

GokuSSJgod said:
It's an unlocked one. Verizon replacements from Verizon stores are Google unlocked ones. Thanks for getting hopes up for the billionth time lol.
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What exactly did you do. Step by step
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Never mind. You couldn't toggle oem unlock until you connected to the internet.
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I was connected to the internet and still would allow the unlock. I tried it fresh out the box on opd3 Sept version on WiFi and wouldn't allow toggle in OEM unlock. See the screen shot. Did a bunch of stuff trying to mess around and unlock but all failed. Eventually after factory restore. Even tho there was no account or sim installed. I took the March 5 update and rebooted it and it let me toggle the OEM unlock. Then rebooted to check if it still was toggled. Then went to bootloader to unlock. Called Google not Verizon to verify this wasn't a refurbished phone and was a Verizon phone. He confirmed it was a new Verizon. He said most refurbs are on some image other than stock out the box anyways. So either he was wrong and the actual Verizon image in the phone doesn't mean anything?
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Edit: the last pic is a sticker on the back of the phone out of the replacement box. Not a new style box. Just a phone was in there.

Go here: http://www.imeipro.info/check_lg.html
Enter your IMEI and tell us the model number.

I was going to suggest that. It'll say something like goo or vzw

bryantjopplin said:
I was connected to the internet and still would allow the unlock. I tried it fresh out the box on opd3 Sept version on WiFi and wouldn't allow toggle in OEM unlock. See the screen shot. Did a bunch of stuff trying to mess around and unlock but all failed. Eventually after factory restore. Even tho there was no account or sim installed. I took the March 5 update and rebooted it and it let me toggle the OEM unlock. Then rebooted to check if it still was toggled. Then went to bootloader to unlock. Called Google not Verizon to verify this wasn't a refurbished phone and was a Verizon phone. He confirmed it was a new Verizon. He said most refurbs are on some image other than stock out the box anyways. So either he was wrong and the actual Verizon image in the phone doesn't mean anything?
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Edit: the last pic is a sticker on the back of the phone out of the replacement box. Not a new style box. Just a phone was in there.
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What's the bunch of stuff you tried

slogar25 said:
What's the bunch of stuff you tried
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Going through even hidden menu codes multiple times, unlocking, flashing factory images, fastboot format userdata. Basically nothing worked tho. Lol
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bryantjopplin said:
Going through even hidden menu codes multiple times, unlocking, flashing factory images, fastboot format userdata. Basically nothing worked tho. Lol
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So what is the model number from the IMEI checker?

Scott said:
So what is the model number from the IMEI checker?
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So yours shows a model number?
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Wasteof time again. I'm done checking these forums on here.

Please provide a detailed Step by Step instruction
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ralph97 said:
Please provide a detailed Step by Step instruction
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Is yours still on the opd3 Sept image from Verizon? If not I don't know if that works. I have only done it on that.
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GokuSSJgod said:
Wasteof time again. I'm done checking these forums on here.
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Waste of time posting a negative and non informative sentence.
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Here's all three if you're still sceptical
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bryantjopplin said:
Here's all three if you're still scepticalView attachment 4448432
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Middle is the only Google unlocked version. Left is locked march Verizon version. Right is unlocked Verizon version.
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So basically, what you did was update the phone without the sim card in it and it let you enable oem unlocking?

Yes, i am sure thats all that was needed. None of the other stuff shown any output or i just errors saying device wasnt unlocked. I am trying to provide more information in OP to show. But i believe the key is to be on opd3 sept patch with no sim card or activation. But i am unsure of the activation part. I did not activate it until now 8:15 pm
MColbath said:
So basically, what you did was update the phone without the sim card in it and it let you enable oem unlocking?
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MColbath said:
So basically, what you did was update the phone without the sim card in it and it let you enable oem unlocking?
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That happened with one of the replacements I received. Unfortunately that phone had a scratched back panel and I sent it back. The subsequent device I received did not allow me to do the same thing. For the first device I did this:
1) Turned on the phone without sim. OEM unlocking was grayed out.
2) Connected to WiFi still with no sim. OEM unlocking still grayed out.
3) Took the available update which I think was to 8.1. Still no sim. OEM locking no longer grayed out.
4) Unlocked bootloader.

mlin said:
That happened with one of the replacements I received. Unfortunately that phone had a scratched back panel and I sent it back. The subsequent device I received did not allow me to do the same thing. For the first device I did this:
1) Turned on the phone without sim. OEM unlocking was grayed out.
2) Connected to WiFi still with no sim. OEM unlocking still grayed out.
3) Took the available update which I think was to 8.1. Still no sim. OEM locking no longer grayed out.
4) Unlocked bootloader.
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I'm wondering if it's an activation thing. If they have ever been activated on vzw and used they won't unlock. But a new one that hasn't been can? Verizon versions that is
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bryantjopplin said:
I'm wondering if it's an activation thing. If they have ever been activated on vzw and used they won't unlock. But a new one that hasn't been can? Verizon versions that is
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That's pretty much what it is. If you perform the first time boot without a sim card you should be able to OEM unlock, if the sim card is in you won't be able to.