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Another battery drain problem - driving me CRAZY!!

I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.

I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..

Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?

Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.

The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery

led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .

aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.

Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".

I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.

I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...

Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.

i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14

Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time

I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA

Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.

samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.

I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok

Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks

So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?

Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am

Phone doesn't detect battery level correctly

One day i was found that my magic isn't charged fully - charging level is stuck at same % (say 66%) although charger was plugged in during all the night.
Beginning from this moment the phone doesn't detect battery level correctly and don't charging up to 100% nor when it is on nor when it is off. For example it can show me one value but after reboot shows differently another value (for example was 46% but after rebooting is 8%, or in some cases battery level can be even more, than before i performing reboot - say was 22% but after rebooting is 78%).
I'd tried wipe, erase system partition and re-flash rom, flash another roms - all without any luck. So i decided that my battery is died. But when i got a brand new battery (from another just bought magic), i got the same issue as in case of my battery. Also another magic works perfect with my battery.
It appears that problem in the phone itself? Anybody got the same issue?

intruders said:
One day i was found that my magic isn't charged fully - charging level is stuck at same % (say 66%) although charger was plugged in during all the night.
Beginning from this moment the phone doesn't detect battery level correctly and don't charging up to 100% nor when it is on nor when it is off. For example it can show me one value but after reboot shows differently another value (for example was 46% but after rebooting is 8%, or in some cases battery level can be even more, than before i performing reboot - say was 22% but after rebooting is 78%).
I'd tried wipe, erase system partition and re-flash rom, flash another roms - all without any luck. So i decided that my battery is died. But when i got a brand new battery (from another just bought magic), i got the same issue as in case of my battery. Also another magic works perfect with my battery.
It appears that problem in the phone itself? Anybody got the same issue?
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Me too....

did you try wiping battery stats (from recovery)?
I'm not sure if this is supposed to done from a full or empty battery though

adavis159 said:
did you try wiping battery stats (from recovery)?
I'm not sure if this is supposed to done from a full or empty battery though
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That is what i waa going to say, but I'm sure it doesnt matter what level your battery is when you do this aslong as it doesnt die during the process. Anyways you could have a faulty phone reading the levels wrong if changing roms and doing this doesnt work.

luminiz said:
Me too....
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I found several similar cases on this forum but no one answer that actually explain what and why it happens.
In my case i got this issue after performing battery calibration procedure. Maybe is just coincidence, i don't know.
adavis159 said:
did you try wiping battery stats (from recovery)?
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Yep, of course i tried do this from recovery and manually deleting battery stats file - both with no luck. Also during rom flashing battery stats also was erased.

Tried un-root my phone by flashing Android 1.5 from MT3G - issue isn't disappear. After a week maximum detected battery level is falling down and i can't get even 40% of charge. Now, two weeks later, maximum charging level is only few %. Damn it

[Q] [Help] My battery is draining too fast, some soft problem ?

I bought this Hero off eBay, and it was dodgy since the begining.
The phone had cyanogen, and was restarting itself occasionally.
So i wiped it, installed 2.1 and it got fixed, but now i have a problem with battery drainage.
Its insance, 10minutes-10% im pretty sure its not supposed to be like that. with or without wifi/3d turned on, its just riddiculous.
I borrowed battery from a friend, and that didint make any change, i installed latest update from the autoupdate in the phone and still its bad. I read somewhere here that its faulty email app that keeps on trying to sync and drains battery, how do i fix that ?
I did a full wipe, cleared cache and everything back to factory settings, with no apps installed it goes from 100% to 0% in an hour.
I downloaded 2.1 from some android forum, as i was unable to find one here (there are only links to 1.5 on the xda.wiki WHY?)
If you can point me to a proper 2.1 (or higher?) software to download that doesnt do this crazy **** i'll be happy as infant on crack.
Please help, here is my software information:
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Baseband version: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26
Kernel version: 2.6.29-063c4d24
Build number: 3.32.405.2 CL191507release-keys
Software number: 3.32.405
Browser version: WebKit 3.1

Try calibrating your battery it gave me a huge boost on my hero... went from getting 16hours day.. to about 30hours on a single charge!!
Every time you flash a new ROM you need to calibrate your battery. The battery meter in the OS (Android in this case) is generated based on the battery stats file.
Battery stats is erased when you flash a new ROM.
Easiest method of battery calibration when you're intending on flashing a ROM:
Ensure battery is fully charged according to the OS. Switch phone off, unplug charger and plug back in. Once light is green, leave charging for another 30 minutes (light goes green at approx 95% charge).
Switch on, flash ROM. Allow first boot to complete.
Shut phone off. Disconnect charger. Remove battery. Replace battery. Place on charge, light green, leave charging another 30 minutes, yadda yadda. Switch phone on, boot immediately to recovery. Wipe battery stats.
Boot phone up. Now would be a good time to install JuicePlotter. Use as normal. Do not charge, let the battery run down completely. When the phone shuts itself off, power it back on. Repeat process until it won't switch on anymore.
Remove the battery. Put the battery back. Turn the phone on. Repeat until it won't turn on anymore.
Now charge the battery on the mains to 100% while the phone is off, keep charging for 30 minutes after light goes green. Power on. Voila, fully calibrated battery.
The last part, run until completely dead and charge only needs to be done once in a while (this is calibrating the battery innards, not the battery stats)
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hah, yea thats what i accidentally figured. phone was switching off, but when i powered it back on it had 30%.. and it was like that 3 or 4 times.
I ran it down completely and now am charging it till max, we'll see what happens. at worst i'lkl start your process from the beginning thx !
I diidnt know you had to do that. i've been playing with my G1 and not even once i had to calibrate that.. maybe i should

How'd it go? Any improvement on battery life?

it diidnt help I did what you quoted step by step and its still running down the battery like crazy :/ what else can i do ? im thinking of switching to 1.5 but thats just not progressive and my friends phone is running fine on 2.1, with the same battery even.
Edit: i've installed task killer and killed all the mail checking apps.. hope that is the problem
Edit2: it didint help at all, in 5 minutes i lost 15% fcuking hell !

I just switched to 1.5 and its still happening ! I using a different battery and its just as bad... why is this happening to me
ill try second to latest radio from xda wiki.. im running out of ideas,what else can i do ?

That really wierd... its not the battery if you have tried using different ones. Its not the ROM if u have changed it.
Have you tried disabling auto-updates? and auto-checks for emails. Which email client do you have? you should find the option to "sync-never" in the app settings.
Buying it from ebay is kinda ominous though.. was it described as faulty? perhaps you could contact the seller and request a refund is all else fails?

you can try using setcpu to underclock the cpu.
i have similar situation as you. before going to bed around 11pm, it showed 50% left, turned on airplane mode, then in the morning around 6am, phone was powered off.
now it has been 2 days, still have 20% left.

Logan3D said:
I bought this Hero off eBay, and it was dodgy since the begining.
The phone had cyanogen, and was restarting itself occasionally.
So i wiped it, installed 2.1 and it got fixed, but now i have a problem with battery drainage.
Its insance, 10minutes-10% im pretty sure its not supposed to be like that. with or without wifi/3d turned on, its just riddiculous.
I borrowed battery from a friend, and that didint make any change, i installed latest update from the autoupdate in the phone and still its bad. I read somewhere here that its faulty email app that keeps on trying to sync and drains battery, how do i fix that ?
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Did you ever take into consideration that some part of the hardware might be damaged?
Devices that got water damaged, sometimes show weird symptoms as well:
- They still boot up and seem to work well from the first sight
- The battery drains very quickly
- Some of the peripherals are not working stable or not starting up anymore (e.g. wifi, bt, gps)
- Other crazy things might happen as well (e.g. random reboots, backlight flicker, etc.)
So you might have a look at the mainboard. Red stickers indicate water damage!
Regards,
scholbert

Yea but if it were damaged would it show 50% battery after restarting thinking it had reached 5% ? i dont have the tools or will to unscrew it.
i paid 100 pounds fo it, the normal price of a used hero, but the auction said "phone restarts for no reason" and they do not accept returns, so im propably screwed :I

I had an old blackberry 8300 curve, i had it in the bathroom while i was showering, got too moist, turned the detection pads red but phone seemed to work fine after i dried it out. But the battery went to crap progressively in the manner. I would charge to 100%, take it off the charger and maybe an hour it would say less than 10%, do a battery pull and it would go back up to maybe 80% and last maybr another hour and keep doing that till it would normally drain on top od the numerous reboots i would be doing until eventually it would just drain and die.
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Can dead pixels cause this ? i have like three.. but then again why would it show 50% after restarting from 5%..
the thing is its not draining the battery, just registering it wrong

Any updates on this? Any resolution?

shinji21 said:
Any updates on this? Any resolution?
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sorry mate i have tried everything unsuccessfully and returned the phone to the seller.. dont tell me you bought it ? (london)

No, but i have a samsung galaxy tab and experience similar symtoms. It does not bother me too much, the battery life is still great. Just the percentage is off and i need to restart from time to time.
I read similar complaint from droid x forum too.

Battery inaccurate after boot

Hi all
since a week or so i have a strange problem with my sgs and i hope you can help me to fix it
Everything works just fine (battery is accurate) until i switch off / reboot the phone
but at next boot the battery reports a very low value
(e.g. the phone has 55% battery left and after the reboot it reports only 8%)
with Froyo 2.2.1 (Speedmod Kernel) it would stay at that level until the battery has really drained to that point
With GB (JVQ - Galaxian Kernel) the battery percentage increases slowly
What i tried so far:
first of all, i deleted the battery stats for a few times and because that didn't work i upgraded to JVQ (with repartitioning and all), but that didn't solve the problem either
i don't really know what to do anymore and i hope someone can help me
thanks

Just do a few drain/ charge cycles and that should sort it
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First off, wiping batterystats.bin alone won't help.
Try this:
1. Charge to 100% until it says unplug charger.
2. Wipe batterystats.bin from recovery, unplug and then reboot
3. Drain your phone's battery until it shuts itself down
4. Charge to 100% without interrupting the charge
5. Enjoy :3

thanks for the quick replay!
unfortunately thats basically what i have already done
since the problem happened the first time, i have charged the phone at least 5 times and wiped the battery stats for 2 or 3 times right after charging the phone to 100%
its true that normally i don't drain the battery completely, but yesterday i have done just that and than let the phone charge overnight - but that didn't solve the problem
i will try to fully discharge the phone a few more times and load the battery while the phone is switched off
still i hope someone has an other suggestion how to solve this annoying problem
thanks

lol - stop deleting the batterystats.bin for starters.
The batterystats needs to indentify the top and bottom markers such as 0% - 100%, delete it ONCE.
Firstly, turn the phone off, charge the phone to 100%, bump charge it, till 100% truely.
This means, unplug...then plug it in again until you keep getting 100% show up.
Boot up into recovery then delete the batterystats.bin.
Use it heavy, activate everything and drain it. Make sure it is compeltely drained, try turning the phone back on, take the battery out for about 2 mins, try turning it on again, if it doesnt turn on, you've drained it.
Plug your charger in, do not turn the phone on, let it charge to 100%, again, bump charge it until 100% truely full, turn the phone on and let it run its natural course this time.
Do not delete the batterystats.bin again, you will have to repeat the process, it will take a good 2/3 times of charge/discharge for the stats to settle.
Hopefully helps dude! Good luck

thanks pidz!
just to clarify: i have had my sgs for a half year now and i never wiped the battery stats until last week
But i haven't tried bump charging jet - i really don't like that process as it is bad for the battery but might be worth a try, thanks

it usually happens with non original batteries. did you changed a battery? or maybe you got a fake one with you phone?

Massive Battery Drain in 4.4.2

Does anyone else have a massive battery drain in Kit Kat? I can charge my Nexus to 100% and in an hour or two it's completely dead with blinking red light. I tried restarting to bootloader when it was at 5% but it was still on for like a half hour. Once I restarted my phone, my battery read 0%. I'm thinking it may be time to change the battery if no one else is having this problem.

I suggest you to reset the battery stat from the recovery. The probability that this works are low but is better then nothing.

How do I do that from recovery?
Edit: phone was charged to 98%, rebooted into recovery to see if I could wipe stats in TWRP, rebooted again, phone reads 28%, 3 minutes later it read 66%.

TheKnux said:
How do I do that from recovery?
Edit: phone was charged to 98%, rebooted into recovery to see if I could wipe stats in TWRP, rebooted again, phone reads 28%, 3 minutes later it read 66%.
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To wipe battery stats in TWRP:
boot into TWRP recovery
/advanced/File Manager/
folder /data/system/
click batterystats.bin
click Delete
reboot system
If you can't see the folder, you need to mount the data folder.

Well I switched to Philz Touch, do I have to do the same thing then?

TheKnux said:
Well I switched to Philz Touch, do I have to do the same thing then?
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You should have the wipe battery stat under advanced in your recovery.
The right step to follow are:
1. charging the battery FULLY
2. wipe Battery Stats
3. don't charge the device until the battery still turns off your device because it empty
4. now again FULLY charge without interruption

Wiping battery stats does nothing, see here: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/ . Sounds like your battery is borked. May need to send away for repair. Are you still under warranty?

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Wiping battery stats does nothing, see here: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/ . Sounds like your battery is borked. May need to send away for repair. Are you still under warranty?
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Yeah I figured. Thought it was a KitKat bug at first but then it started getting ridiculous. Phone was at 70%, started taking a photosphere, phone shut off, and when I turned it back on it was at 3%.
No its not. Bought it off Craigslist. Just gonna order a battery off eBay for $18 and replace it myself, see if that fixes anything.

I just got out of a similar problem.
My battery percentage was jumping all over the place.
It would charge fully in about 5 mins, and die in about 20.
Everytime I restarted the phone, it would read a different percent.
I ended up running the phone on full brightness, with like everything turned on to drain the battery all the way down.
& Everytime it would shut off cause it had no battery left, just restart it and keep draining it until when you reboot the phone it no longer turns on(because the battery if fully drained of course).
That's when it is really dead.
Then just charge it to 100%, and keep it charging for about 20 extra minutes once it hits 100%, and now it's back to normal!

Glorifyy said:
I just got out of a similar problem.
My battery percentage was jumping all over the place.
It would charge fully in about 5 mins, and die in about 20.
Everytime I restarted the phone, it would read a different percent.
I ended up running the phone on full brightness, with like everything turned on to drain the battery all the way down.
& Everytime it would shut off cause it had no battery left, just restart it and keep draining it until when you reboot the phone it no longer turns on(because the battery if fully drained of course).
That's when it is really dead.
Then just charge it to 100%, and keep it charging for about 20 extra minutes once it hits 100%, and now it's back to normal!
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That really worked? Any problems with it since and is this a common issue with the N4? For some reason it won't die when it's in the bootloader even though the percentage read 5.
So yesterday it was so dead that it gave me the red blinking light, should I charge it when that happens again and should I leave it off while charging it or turn it on and not touch it?
How many times did you have to do this until it straightened itself out?

TheKnux said:
That really worked? Any problems with it since and is this a common issue with the N4? For some reason it won't die when it's in the bootloader even though the percentage read 5.
So yesterday it was so dead that it gave me the red blinking light, should I charge it when that happens again and should I leave it off while charging it or turn it on and not touch it?
How many times did you have to do this until it straightened itself out?
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I am currently having WakeLock problems, but I do not beleive this was the cause.
I was able to restart it after it died about 4-6 times, till it was fully dead.
Then I charged the phone, and kept it off the whole time.

I installed wakelock detector to make sure that wasn't the problem. I had this problem on the stock rom even before I rooted. So the problem hasn't persisted since?