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[Q] Smart Lock enabled but temperamental in Lollipop / N910FXXU1BOC3

So after a bit of digging around and research, I managed to find and enable Smart Lock. For those of you who didn't know, it's hidden under Security > Trust Agents. After you've enabled, a new 'Smart Lock' menu appears at the bottom of the Security settings menu where you can manage your Smartlock features. Interestingly, it also features the new 'on-body detection'.
So I set it up about 3 days ago but it doesn't always work for me and I'm questioning if it works at all. My lock screen is set to re-enable after 10 minutes of inactivity so it may just be that I logged in during this time and thought that it may be working. I have 3 differen't ways of using smart lock, all of which are enabled: 1= Bluetooth devices including my Moto 360 which is always connected 2=Location, my home address and 3=On-body detection.
But yeah, as I say, it doesn't seem to be working as 90% of the time, I still have to enter my pin to access my phone. Anyone else tried this or willing to test it out? I'm running the first N910FXXU1BOC3 release from Netherlands/Samsung Experience stock.

bumpy - Anyone!?

Went out of the country and decided to try it out, was working great, but here and there I noticed that the phone gets unlocked in the pocket on second day of using this feature, my pictures and music folder has been deleted, I suspect that it happened accidentally in the pocket... Don't have any other explanation. I would avoid this feature while traveling or if you have to pull out phone quite often.

I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...

I have used On-Body Detection and I can say that it worked great from my point of view. One thing to mention, i don't keep my phone in the pocket of my pants, always pocket of my jacket so did not have any issues with unlocking by itself and performing random operations.
But on BOC3 i did notice that the phone was constantly awake and one of the things i tried was disabling on-body detection i can see now that the wakelock issue was resolved and i'm getting a estimated 3 Days left on 80% battery. From my point of view this is more important that unlocking the phone easier
And regarding the trusted devices part and pairing with a smartwatch, i don't see the security benefit of that as the Bluetooth range is quite big. From a security point of view, trusted devices based on a Bluetooth link is not a good idea.

Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.

maverick1103 said:
I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...
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Iggy82 said:
Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.
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Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:

Smart Lock works awesome on my phone. I have my truck's bluetooth as a trusted device and I set up my home as a trusted location. Both work flawlessly but one thing I had to do was add an additional location for my home along with the preset "Home" location I had set up in Maps a long time ago. It wouldn't work until I manually added the 2nd home location.
It's a great feature.

iridaki said:
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.

keekooceeaou said:
Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.
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I suppose it's a matter of personal preference, I like the idea of being able to quickly secure my screen without, for example, disconnecting my BT earphones. Plus, it's more difficult to aim for the little lock icon than to actually swipe in the middle of the screen.
I am not sure about your question as I don't use the KNOX container, sorry! It sounds though as a security measure that is not possible to bypass. But I could be wrong.

iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?

maverick1103 said:
Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?
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Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!

iridaki said:
Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!
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Still it's the one main feature I have been waiting for with lollipop which I'm glad I have now!

iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Brilliant, it does work! It was purely me swiping up from the lock icon like you say! Doesn't seem very intuitive but I'm just glad it's working! I owe you a beer!

Lock screen stuck on swipe to unlock despite fingerprints being set as the lock type

I've had the s6 and the lock screen would actually set the way you wanted. I've set up my fingerprints and set the lock screen type to fingerprints, but it still shows the stupid "swipe screen to unlock" lock screen and ignores the fingerprint setting. I checked the smart lock settings and none of those are active. Any ideas what to try next?

Use your finger. Don't swipe.
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CBONE said:
I've had the s6 and the lock screen would actually set the way you wanted. I've set up my fingerprints and set the lock screen type to fingerprints, but it still shows the stupid "swipe screen to unlock" lock screen and ignores the fingerprint setting. I checked the smart lock settings and none of those are active. Any ideas what to try next?
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Settings > Quick Settings > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Secured lock time > Instantly with the power key or when the screen times out
Basically it is defaulted to not lock the phone until it has been off for 10 minutes, meaning you do not need to use the fingerprint to unlock it if you have recently done so.
Set it as I said and you will be required to use fingerprints every time (or a pin, pattern, or whatever secondary method you chose) and it will unlock directly to your homescreen.

Brava27 said:
Use your finger. Don't swipe.
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Really? Why did you bother with that?
On the off chance you're being serious and not thread-crapping, the screen will only unlock via swipe. no matter the actual setting, it still acts like swipe is the lock screen setting.

Milimbar said:
Settings > Quick Settings > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Secured lock time > Instantly with the power key or when the screen times out
Basically it is defaulted to not lock the phone until it has been off for 10 minutes, meaning you do not need to use the fingerprint to unlock it if you have recently done so.
Set it as I said and you will be required to use fingerprints every time (or a pin, pattern, or whatever secondary method you chose) and it will unlock directly to your homescreen.
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THANK YOU! That is possibly the stupidest, least secure default setting they could have chosen! I like Samsung, but they make it hard sometimes. How stupid. Thanks!

I am having same problem & have my phone set to lock immediately. Frustrating bcuz I want that security feature & it's not working.

update: smart lock and my gear fit watch together, were the culprit

Take off all lock options on your s7... then download gesture lock screen from the play store and set it up. It gets rid of the swipe and you can also customize it a lot more. I just got the s7 and was about to return it, especially after seeing so many threads with this problem, but gesture lock screen works perfect for me. Good luck.

Was having the same issue. Would ask for swipe motion after locking if I attempted to use phone by pressing home screen button. As soon as I disabled Bluetooth it started to prompt for finger print again.

it works...
S7EdgyGirl said:
Was having the same issue. Would ask for swipe motion after locking if I attempted to use phone by pressing home screen button. As soon as I disabled Bluetooth it started to prompt for finger print again.
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Thanks S7EdgeGirl, it worked fine after I turned off my bluetooth option...now its asking me for the finger print to UNLOCK..
Crazy..........................
thaks a lot..this helped me out...

Issue for me was the Samsung smart watch was listed as a trusted device in Smart Lock. Turn this off and now it locks immediately as intended.

Hey guys, i have finally got the solution!!!! It is happening because of the smart lock option. Please disable it. What smart lock does is, when u unlock the device it remains unlocked until its with you for emergency kind of thing. If you disable smart lock it will prompt you for entering pattern or any other which you have set. Thank you....
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Hey guys, i have finally got the solution!!!! It is happening because of the smart lock option. Please disable it. What smart lock does is, when u unlock the device it remains unlocked until its with you for emergency kind of thing. Smart lock detects your body or your location or your smart watch or any other devices. If you disable smart lock it will prompt you for entering pattern or any other which you have set. Thank you....

I have the same problem with c9pro
Guys please help. I already set my pattern and fingerprints lock in my c9pro but when i locked and immediately switch on the screen, my phone can unlock using swipe only
I already set Lock screen setting > secure lock setting > lock instantly with power key is ON
But still only need swipe to unlock
What should i do?
Thanks

My s7 stuck on swipe. BT off set for fingerprints initially restated phone went through "new" security measures then after first fingerprint opening reverts to swipe. Changed to no security restarted then 're set up still no good. Figuring it was fingerprints changed to pin set up still works as swipe....frustrating

Fingerprint Unlock not enough - OOS 3.0.2 requires pin when locked unconventionally

So I just upgraded to the OOS 3.0.2 MM build, and there's a new issue that's greatly annoying me. If you lock the phone with the power button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock it fine. However, if you lock it with something else (as I do with both shake-to-lock and Nova's lock actions), it will insist on ALSO asking for the pin/pattern unlock once your fingerprint has been scanned.
Anyone find a way to disable this security feature while still having a fingerprint unlock in place? Neither Gravity Box nor the security settings are presenting any obvious options

That's a feature of Android MM, not OOS. It can't be disabled.

baw2607 said:
That's a feature of Android MM, not OOS. It can't be disabled.
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There is no way to disable it? Even rooted? No xposed or system level hack?

It seems to be an error in design of Nova launcher and other solutions. They don't use the correct way of locking the phone hardlocking instead of softlocking, and therefore the phone will ask for pin just as if you restarted your phone.

Artemicion said:
So I just upgraded to the OOS 3.0.2 MM build, and there's a new issue that's greatly annoying me. If you lock the phone with the power button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock it fine. However, if you lock it with something else (as I do with both shake-to-lock and Nova's lock actions), it will insist on ALSO asking for the pin/pattern unlock once your fingerprint has been scanned.
Anyone find a way to disable this security feature while still having a fingerprint unlock in place? Neither Gravity Box nor the security settings are presenting any obvious options
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I had same issue when i used double tap to sleep in nova launcher prime.... i is because it uses device administrator to lock phone! I fixed by using root to lock my mobile....
Long story short you need your application to use root to lock your device!

But what if the shakelock app I use (and love!) doesn't use root....? It's sounding like I'm out of luck here. How have you managed to make Nova use root to lock?

I guess I'm more of an Apex guy, don't fancy Nova launcher even though I bought it a couple of years ago. I just double tap on top part of screen to lock, or press the power button, or let it timeout. For unlocking, I just use fingerprint, no fuss, no asking for code.

I was happy with Nova Launcher (which is currently on sale for $0.99 on the Play store), until I found out that it has a bug in voice searches from the Home Screen's search bar. It annoyed the heck out of me as it kept on complaining "App not installed" when clicking on the little mic. I had to click on the search bar and THEN click on the other mic that appeared, inorder to access voice search. Defeats the purpose of the voice search b/c I use it a lot while driving and I cant be bothered to be clicking through so many hoops. So I switched my homescreen launcher to Google Now Launcher, while keeping everything else Nova Prime.

For anyone interested, I have found a sort-of solution. Using a combo of Xposed Maxlock and Lockscreen Disabler, it's possible to have a lockscreen up that you can dismiss by using the fingerprint sensor. There's a fairly obvious downside in that it doesn't matter what fingerprint hits the sensor, as anything at all unlocks the screen (which is Lockscreen Disabler's function) but it works as a way to use a non-root lock method that still allows you to unlock the screen with just a touch. Until such a time as someone finds a better solution

I'm pretty sure that it's easy to write a simple apk that uses the root method to call the screen off function. Only if someone would write that
Why I tell that - because if You double tap the status bar - the screen locks and You can easily unlock it just with the fingerprint sensor... therefore, that function does exist already in the ROM.

Yeah, I've got the Nova rooted lock function working, so those actions or GravtiyBox stuff like double tap status bar will work and not require pin+fingerprint, but my specific ask is this way to lock the screen by quickly flicking/shaking the phone (which is GREAT and I don't understand what hasn't been included in stock) - none of those seem to use root to lock so this workaround is a way to have that convenient screen off + convenient fingerprint on.

Require pin to sign in after certain amount of time of inactivity

Is there a way I can set this? Like if I don't use my phone for an hour require a pin to unlock it instead of a fingerprint.

Hola
Simple I think. 2 areas you need to configure:
1. Settings -> Display -> Sleep
2. Settings -> Security -> Screen lock -> Automatic lock

aijorgenson said:
Is there a way I can set this? Like if I don't use my phone for an hour require a pin to unlock it instead of a fingerprint.
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Unless ZTE changed the lockscreen behavior from Marshmallow, the fingerprint scanner will always unlock the device. If you can disable the fingerprint scanner temporarily, I can work something out for you using Tasker. On the lock screen, look for the padlock logo (it might be a fingerprint) at the bottom center of the screen. Either tap it, or press and hold. You may or may not see a message appear (see the attached screenshot). Try to unlock the phone with your fingerprint and let me know if you're forced to type in the PIN.
Apps designated as Device Administrators are supposed to have the ability to lock the device and disable the fingerprint scanner. Nova Launcher, Secure Settings, and Tasker all have Device Administrator supported lock commands. On stock Android, this would disable the fingerprint scanner and require the PIN to be entered. On B29, I found that ZTE removed this behavior and gave the fingerprint scanner absolute authority to unlock the device. If this is still the case, I never figured out a way to completely lock the device.

FWIW I was forced to enter a password today, fingerprint did not work. I did not knowingly reboot. I too find this behavior very disturbing. I do not memorize my passwords as the are robust (long) my finger should suffice in all circumstances IMHO. I am wondering if I could get any kind of an answer from customer service at Axon....

Fingerprint unlock without pins etc

Hey,
is it possible to unlock the phone with fingerprints without having to lock the phone with pins or something?
The only reason for me using the fingerprint unlock is that it's the quickest and easiest way of unlocking the phone.
I don't need/ want the extra "security".

I think no, but why would you wan't to disable PIN since you don't need to use it?

User422 said:
Hey,
is it possible to unlock the phone with fingerprints without having to lock the phone with pins or something?
The only reason for me using the fingerprint unlock is that it's the quickest and easiest way of unlocking the phone.
I don't need/ want the extra "security".
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So, what happens that time you just can't get the fingerprint to unlock?
The PIN/Pattern is there for that eventuality.
If need be it's there for someone else to unlock if there is an emergency and you can't use your fingerprint.

ultramag69 said:
So, what happens that time you just can't get the fingerprint to unlock?
The PIN/Pattern is there for that eventuality.
If need be it's there for someone else to unlock if there is an emergency and you can't use your fingerprint.
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To clarify things: I want no unnecessary "security".
Just fingerprint unlock and swiping to unlock.
When I tap on notifications, I want them to open up immediately instead of asking for pin or anything.

Vika__ said:
I think no, but why would you wan't to disable PIN since you don't need to use it?
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If I'd disable the pin, it would also disable the fingerprint unlock. But I just want fingerprint and swipe to unlock.
I don't want the pins or anything else to block the unlocking when I double tap on a notification.

Wait, if you have swipe to unlock (to access your notifications), why would you need fingerprint access? You (or anyone else) could just double tap your notifications to see them and then have full access to your system.
Outside of the first unlock after a reboot, you can just use your fingerprint to unlock when you see the PIN screen (such as when double tapping a notification).
Either way though, the answer is "No." You cannot have fingerprint authentication without a PIN/Pattern lock on any Android (or iOS device for that matter). The systems won't allow it.
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ultramag69 said:
So, what happens that time you just can't get the fingerprint to unlock?
The PIN/Pattern is there for that eventuality.
If need be it's there for someone else to unlock if there is an emergency and you can't use your fingerprint.
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+1

If you have both fingerprint unlock and pin enabled you only need to enter your pin the first time after boot. After entering it that one time you will be able to unlock your screen with fingerprint only until you reboot the phone again. Entering the pin once isn't that much of an inconvenience.

I think its really required to have a backup security when using a fingerprint to unlock the phone. Though you just have to unlock it once with pin and then fingerprint all the way!

lazygeniuslanz said:
I think its really required to have a backup security when using a fingerprint to unlock the phone. Though you just have to unlock it once with pin and then fingerprint all the way!
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I am amazed by the fact that no one else than you actually understood what I want and what the problem is.
Even after clarifying...
I guess I'll ask for it in the xposed module requests section.

jhs39 said:
If you have both fingerprint unlock and pin enabled you only need to enter your pin the first time after boot. After entering it that one time you will be able to unlock your screen with fingerprint only until you reboot the phone again. Entering the pin once isn't that much of an inconvenience.
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The problem is still that I want swipe + fingerprint.
I don't use the fingerprint as security. I use it to unlock it quicker.
I use the pattern. And I don't want others to be locked out of my phone. And I don't want to say what my pattern is all the time.
And I want to be able to open a notification just by a double tap.
It's inconcovient to use double tap AND fingerprint to open a simple notification.

Xposed isn't going to help at all in this case. Sorry, but the API (Application Program Interface) that deals with fingerprints is very strict in what it can/can't do and that's by design. This cannot be modified.
Your best option is to use something like Smart Lock, where you can have the phone automatically unlock when connected to a trusted Wi-Fi, Bluetooth device, or even carrying the phone.
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User422 said:
I am amazed by the fact that no one else than you actually understood what I want and what the problem is.
Even after clarifying...
I guess I'll ask for it in the xposed module requests section.
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Haha thanks, but they also have their points. You really need a backup security method if you're using biometric unlocking. For example, you're using a fingerprint, iris scanner, or face recognition, it is really required to have a backup "secured" "in-screen" unlocking method for your phone. It means that, when your biometric scanners broke for some reason, you have other way to unlock it.
Its a no brainer for the developers to allow fingerprint for unlocking then if it fails, you just have to swipe the phone to unlock. Unless its really for speed of, I guess, half a second of your life. It's really an essential feature, because in a case when your phone gets stolen, the thief can just break the scanner or just try it a lot until it requires you to just "unsecured" swipe it up. So I'll advice you to just use half a second of your life to unlock a pattern (the easiest and fastest other way). You just have to swipe at least 4 dots and then your phone is now secured the easiest and fastest way.

I think what he meant was that he wants to unlock his phone with the home button as an unlock button, and without any fingerprint security. Am I right?

Let me correct myself. Literally no one understood what I mean.
Just close this thread if possible. I'm not writing anymore.

We did understand what you are wanting to do; we've just said that it is not possible.
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E!eventh said:
I think what he meant was that he wants to unlock his phone with the home button as an unlock button, and without any fingerprint security. Am I right?
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This is exactly what OP wants, convenience without security.
But since it can't be done, the next best thing is remove security and double tap to wake up.

you will need two commits
https://github.com/BootleggersROM/frameworks_base/commit/5877b483dea848e4f35fe6004f0069422d2678fc
https://github.com/BootleggersROM/p...mmit/9d5f80bddd2052253bcf57e0ee3e0e83c62617a7