Galaxy S7 Pros and Cons! - Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion

I have already preordered my Galaxy S7 Edge in Gold and I am sooooo excited to finally get my hands on this device! Samsung has seemingly checked all the boxes when it comes to a perfect phone, or have they?! They have brought back many of the features we missed on the Galaxy S6 (ie waterproofing, sdcard slot, better battery life ect). The phone seems to be a powerhouse with the Snapdragon 820, water cooling and Vulcan. Of course Samsung's s7 display has already been named the best in the industry by DisplayMate, and Samsung always delivers a best in class camera.
This seems like the phone to beat in 2016 however I do take issue with a few things. I have put together a list of 5 Reasons I think the Galaxy S7 has the potential to be the best phone of 2016, and also my 5 biggest complaints with the device. Will any of these issues keep you from purchasing the phone? Are the features enough for you to forgive these issues? Are these issues no big deal for you?

"major flaws...." Really? Lack of USB type c is a MAJOR flaw? Not a good title.
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"major flaws...." Really? Lack of USB type c is a MAJOR flaw? Not a good title.
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Yeah every forum everywhere I have seen that as a complaint. Personally I am thankful they did not. I would have probably passed on it if I had to add a 2nd charger everywhere I have one permanently placed now (have another phone in my household that isnt getting upgraded any time soon with microUSB so I couldnt even just replace what I have. It would actually be adding a 2nd).

No phone is perfect in my mind.
Cons for me are:
-the bloatware and waiting for updates
-the build, I'm in the minority that doesn't want "premium materials". Pretty much anything other than glass on the back I'd prefer
That might be it.
I would have liked a "shatter proof" screen like the Moto X Force has. Don't think that's a con.

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[Q] anyone thinking of changing from note 4 to S6?

if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
I'm considering getting the HTC One M9 Plus (or whatever it's called), provided it has a 2k screen (not that I need it), a good camera and a decent battery life.
I personally wouldn't get the S6, I've grown tired of Samsung and the horrible lag with their top end devices; but the S6 definitely looks interesting and I'm sure it'll shake up the 2015 flagship wars.
@thedarkmunk The words HTC and good camera is not possible in one sentence :angel::angel:
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if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
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@magichoward Prolly getting both devices again S6 and then the Note 5
Lol to each their own, my camera on my HTC Sensation back in the day was alright. To be honest, anything is better than the crummy Ultrapixel crap; if there is a 20MP sensor (and it might be a Hitachi one according to PocketNow), then who knows? It'll still be better than Ultrapixel!
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Lol to each their own, my camera on my HTC Sensation back in the day was alright. To be honest, anything is better than the crummy Ultrapixel crap; if there is a 20MP sensor (and it might be a Hitachi one according to PocketNow), then who knows? It'll still be better than Ultrapixel!
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Yeah I was indeed revering to the ultra pixel crap , I must admit that my Desire and One X made reasonable pictures. I played with a M7 and M8 of a friend at that was utterly crap (I do like the Sense UI though)
I would not switch from Note 4 to S6. I haven't even read what the rumored specs are in detail, but my Note 4 is brand new and I love my s pen, it's a feature I highly use and the main reason I got it over the S5 and its water resistance.
Should be good phone and likely will get one too (at least for temporary testing - I get phones from dealer/retailer friends that are either reduced price to buy, sometimes free or a phone to use and test for few months) so I'll try it but TouchWiz will still be a problem most of us will want to root and rom to get rid of.
They say they are going to trim down TW and reduce bloat only to replace with some Microsoft apps... Oh yeah, like that is better and like we haven't heard about TW getting made lighter before.
Hardware should be real good so worth a look but keeping my Note for sure.
i will be getting the Note 8 to replace my Note 4 based on my usual upgrade cycle.
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if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
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That's until the Note 5 comes out. Which will of course be surpassed by the S7 a few months later. But, alas, the Note 6 will bring it to its knees. Of course, the S8 will have the final word in this war. Until the Note 7 is released [...]
It's an infinite loop.
I don't think it's worth comparing the Note series with the S series. They were never meant to be the same or targeted to the same audience.
If you don't like the S-Pen, then yes, your money may have been better spent on something else. But, on the other hand, who can really tell you what to do and which device you'll be happy with?
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This is so true.. An infinite loop.. Next one to outdo the last.. Just the way it works.. Sure you can compare Notes to S series but isn't apple to apples as different uses and features.
I typically like to compare hardware though..
I think I wait for Note 5 with 4k display.
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No way. This Note 4 is a laggy POS, going back to LG after this. Samsung did say they would make Touchwiz less laggy on the S6,but I don't believe them.
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There will always be a better phone on the horizon, you've just got to take what you can get now. That being said I was holding out for the S6 until I was burgled back in November. They robbed my S4 which was on charge right next to me while I was sleeping. (Scary feeling to wake up and reach for my phone then slowly realise what's happened).
Anyways I needed a new phone and the Note 4 had just been released so I ended up going for it. I'd never considered a Note before. Now that I have it, I have to admit I've been blown away by it. I'm almost (not quite) glad I got burgled. I've broken my S cycle and can happily say I'm sticking to the Note series for the foreseeable future.
S6 ......nope I've gone Note I can't go back.
I actually waited to see if the S6 is any good before buying a replacement for my OnePlus and I decided to get the Note 4 instead because of the following reasons:
* No microSD on the S6 - the difference for the higher memory S6 is almost £100, I got a 64GB microSD for £19
* No removable battery on the S6 - not a deal breaker but it certainly did not help in choosing the S6
* A lot of the apps (mostly for root) does not work properly with Lollipop and the S6 will only run Lollipop
* The "premium" design of the S6 is not worth the increase in price. I always use a case on my phones anyway.
* Going back to less than 5.5" screen is not something I would like
I will stick with my Note 4 until most of the apps I use works perfectly with lollipop, probably several months after the Note 5's release. I never buy a Samsung phone within 2 months of its release as the value goes down rapidly in that period together with accessories. Reviews are also available and bugs are ironed out.

Moved to S6 from which device & why

Current device: Galaxy S5
Why: Because S6 will be / is better in every aspect.
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Gonna stick to Note 4
I like GalaxyS6Edge but i am going to stick to Note4 because SPen. By the way, SdCard and Removable battery are also my main reasons.
Sticking to S4 until I find a quality phone with MicroSD
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Micro SD card get the m9.
For 5years I had several htc devices back to touch HD and now m8. The point was I hated Samsung for their plastic devices and TouchWiz. Imo sense is way better.
But now with the s6 edge samsung has done everything I expected. Metal Frame and unbloated TouchWiz. So I will switch to the s6 cuz for me it has the more advantages then the m9. I will miss sense and the speakers, but I will get a fantastic camera and design.
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The only smartphones I have owned are the SG1 and 4. Contract is up at the end of the month so the 6E it is. Never had any issues with both phones.
from a Note 4
loving the premium build and specs on the s6 edge
Going to be coming from the G3.
Mainly for the green model and because the M9 is underwhelming. Also to have a new piece of tech to play with
Moving to the S6 Edge 128 from my HTC One XL (Evita) because it's just about time lol. Also my device now suffers from excessive random reboots and severe battery drain issues.
Small chance I might go with the HTC One M9, but I'm strongly leaning S6 Edge at this point.
My smartphone evolution: S3, Xperia ZL (only one week), S4, Oppo Find7a and last but not least Xperia Z3.
The S3 remains in my possession in case of loosing/destroying my current smartphone... it's a reserve. The Z3 is a really nice device but the camera isn't a point and shoot one.
After skipping the S5 (didn't like the backside) the S6 is a Samsung phone that attracted my attention again in spite of the glass back (Z3), the non removable battery (Z3) and the missing sd-slot (I lost many, many data because of a broken sd card!!!).
Perhaps Otterbox designs a water/dust/shockproof case for the S6...that would be great...waterproofing is a nice to have feature but it's nonessential.
Probably going to switch from a Note 4 because after having the iPhone 6 I always told myself my perfect phone would be Android running on the iPhone 6 hardware with the iPhone 6 camera... the GS6 looks to achieve that
Once I see what LG has in stock, I might move over from my G3. I have unlimited data on vzw so I'm not too concerned about storage and as long as the battery does well in the reviews, I might consider it since I do like the new look.
From note 3 because I want the fastest and best phone on the market aka s6. Also want to have a smaller phone (Higher PPI yeaaah)
Current device: note 3
Reasoning: really hoping to, but not switching mainly because of the lack of SD slot and removable battery. I love their choice of new materials, but not worth sacrificing the usefulness of those features (swap batteries often and like multiple SD cards for back up/romming/music/etc.). Additionally, I've always opted for snapdragon variants (although I am not opposed to exynos, but that real world performance remains to be seen in this case), and the extreme protrusion of the camera is a real turn off.
Coming from M8 after a really good two year journey with HTC... I have very high expectations for the S6.
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Once I see what LG has in stock, I might move over from my G3. I have unlimited data on vzw so I'm not too concerned about storage and as long as the battery does well in the reviews, I might consider it since I do like the new look.
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you dont think its too expensive?
$699 for the 32gb regular s6 / $799 for the 32gb edge
or mind the locked bootloader?
im on the fence too. wanting a green S6 EDGE but ifk vzw is getting the green one
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Probably going to switch from a Note 4 because after having the iPhone 6 I always told myself my perfect phone would be Android running on the iPhone 6 hardware with the iPhone 6 camera... the GS6 looks to achieve that
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Apple has never made a camera this good
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you dont think its too expensive?
$699 for the 32gb regular s6 / $799 for the 32gb edge
or mind the locked bootloader?
im on the fence too. wanting a green S6 EDGE but ifk vzw is getting the green one
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The price is definitely a concern to me since if I was going to get one, I would go with the 128GB model to get over the fact that I don't have an SD card anymore. Thank god I have a partner that allows me to buy stupidly pricey stuff every so often. As far as the locked boot loader, I would have to see how people are able to build out custom ROMS that run on Sense. Especially with the Edge model, I'm wondering if running on Sense might allow for the extra features on the phone to run better or at all. I always run Nova as my launcher so Touchwiz's interface would be running in the back instead of in my face all the time. On top of that, this would hardly be the first phone I've used that had a locked bootloader that the dev community has managed to get unlocked. We have some very talented people on this site that manage to do some very cool stuff. I remember in the early days of the M8, people were saying that we were doomed to get the device fully unlocked. Now, it's very easy to get that thing running fully unlocked. Plus, if we're super lucky, Samsung might release a developer edition with at least 64GB if not 128.
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Apple has never made a camera this good
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Have you ever used the iPhone 6 camera? It is bar none the best camera available in almost every light. I love my Note 4 but it gets thrashed by the wifes iPhone in everything but outdoor sunlight. The focus time is the real difference.
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Have you ever used the iPhone 6 camera? It is bar none the best camera available in almost every light. I love my Note 4 but it gets thrashed by the wifes iPhone in everything but outdoor sunlight. The focus time is the real difference.
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We aren't talking about the Note 4 camera. We are talking about the camera on the S6. This is going to be the best camera in a smart phone upon release. The iPhone will be a distant second. By the way, you might be the first person I've heard that has anything negative to say about the pics rom the Note 4. I personally don't have one, but everyone I know that has one thinks it blows the iPhone away.
Coming from a One plus one. Just sold it on swappa and also sold my moto 360 just in case the device is a little more expensive. all in all , have $800 to spend. Lookiing at the 64GB Edge version. hopefully its just 750 and I use the other 50 to get a case or something,
Why? well honestly, I wanted the iphone 6 design with android and samsung has accomplished this (not something to be proud of). Also because of the fingerprint scanner, the speed of the device, the smaller screen compared to my 1+1, and samsung pay. oh and the attention grabbing aspect of the 6 edge

#thanks4NOTEthing Sammy

Well, with the anoucement of the Note 5 and is full spec sheet released Sammy has officially jumped the shark (Happy Days reference - had to be there). They took away the removable battery, no expandable memory, lowered the battery capacity and produced an Apple 6 plus clone. For the last 4 years I eagerly anticipated Samsung taking my money because I knew what I was getting was different and a standard setter. There is NOTHING special about the phone now - S-pen aside. I am very disappointed in Sammy for too many reasons. From the lack of development and vision - for a full year, to the lack of accessories to not giving a [email protected] after they took our money last year. They have abandoned the mantle of leader and morphed into tail-between-legged followers. The one good thing is I will not have to use my jump program to hop to another phone this year. The Edge is solid and my favorite phone. Therefore, the option will be wasted on me this year unless some other OEM blows my mind. I reverted back to kit kat recently and have rediscovered the awesomeness of my Note Edge. #thanks4NOTEthing Sammy.
I agree its goodbye samsung. They have copied apple and it is the death nell for samsung. The reason I came to samsung from HTC was for the sdcard and removable battery.
The company that produces an android phone with stylus, sdcard and removable battery with get my custom.
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I agree its goodbye samsung. They have copied apple and it is the death nell for samsung. The reason I came to samsung from HTC was for the sdcard and removable battery.
The company that produces an android phone with stylus, sdcard and removable battery with get my custom.
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I picked up an LG phone that had a stylus but it was just a pointer. it had no functionality at all. Honestly, and I say this in all sincerity, I have zero issues with my note edge. Would I have given it up for a version 2 and the new s-pen animations and functionality? Yes, but nothing that is in the note 5 - especially with all they took away, warrants me to move this year. I will never switch to apple but if there is something that comes down the pike, other than Samsung, I will not hesitate to look now. Whereas I never gave any OEM an opportunity to get my attention before.
Since the note edge is going the way of galaxy round...and while I appreciate the devs keeping this device alive, since I have a JUMP v1 upgrade on tmobile since late july I'm probably going to get the note 5. The longer I wait, the more I pay for a phone I have to trade in. It was 870 at launch. Note 5 is 700, s6e+ is 779.
The note edge was a niche device, and it was fun to use since getting it on launch day. The lack of software optimization and ruined battery life due to overuse of fast charging makes me want to give this device up. I never use the IR blaster, and I can use a 64gb flash drive for TWRP/CWM backups and rom zips.
I was considering the s6 edge plus, but since I have a note 10.1 2014, I can use the sweet new s pen on my 2 year old tablet.
But until I get my hands on both, I can't be too sure about which to get....
Anyways, long story short, gonna give up the note edge before I pay anymore into it.
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Since the note edge is going the way of galaxy round...and while I appreciate the devs keeping this device alive, since I have a JUMP v1 upgrade on tmobile since late july I'm probably going to get the note 5. The longer I wait, the more I pay for a phone I have to trade in. It was 870 at launch. Note 5 is 700, s6e+ is 779.
The note edge was a niche device, and it was fun to use since getting it on launch day. The lack of software optimization and ruined battery life due to overuse of fast charging makes me want to give this device up. I never use the IR blaster, and I can use a 64gb flash drive for TWRP/CWM backups and rom zips.
I was considering the s6 edge plus, but since I have a note 10.1 2014, I can use the sweet new s pen on my 2 year old tablet.
But until I get my hands on both, I can't be too sure about which to get....
Anyways, long story short, gonna give up the note edge before I pay anymore into it.
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Samsung is going to force a lot of people's hands to follow suite because they abandoned the development side. I, on the other hand, am looking to buy another one in a few months when the price drops down even lower. This phone will be looked at as a milestone , and possibly , a huge missed opportunity by Samsung at some point in the future IMO. There are just too many practical real-life experiences where this phone is the perfect technology at that moment. Good on the new phone though.
I love the note edge. .. Samsung missing a trick on this one.
The lack of SD card is a deal breaker for me also. Luckily I can use a phone for 2 yrs, by then maybe they will get it right.??
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I love the note edge. .. Samsung missing a trick on this one.
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The lack of SD card is a deal breaker for me also. Luckily I can use a phone for 2 yrs, by then maybe they will get it right.
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Agree on both counts. I compared my note edge to the s6 plus edge the other day to a person who was on the fence about the advantages. Needless to say the are looking to get the note edge before the end of next week. This phone is the real game changer and Samsung is really missing an opportunity. Oh well, I have mine.
An edge like the note should become a standard on all phones above a certain size.
It's that useful.
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Its a natural place for ur thumb to access. ..
Accessing the main screen with the thumb actually feels awkward now.
I love the concept. 1 side curve is more beneficial than 2 sides. I am not sure why samsung didn't release note edge 2.
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I love the concept. 1 side curve is more beneficial than 2 sides. I am not sure why samsung didn't release note edge 2.
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They didn't release the note edge 2 because even though it was limited, you can go into any carrier and see it collecting dust on display for the past 9 months. I got it on launch day and only saw one other person with the note edge, and I work in a hotel, so I see a LOT of people everyday with their phones out.
As much as I loved having a phone no one else had, it was cumbersome to say the least with the snapdragon 805 constantly getting hot and dropping frames, and the battery that couldn't hold a charge well because of all the quick charge cycles. Not to mention the lack of development(from Samsung). Props to sbreen and tekhd for keeping this device interesting for the 9 months I had this device.
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Get 2 new batteries and use a battery charger. Keeps your battery working great.
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Get 2 new batteries and use a battery charger. Keeps your battery working great.
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Why buy all that though? I just upgraded to a gs6e+. Most gorgeous phone I've ever owned. Using qi wireless charging, so fast charging won't kill my battery like the note edge or fry my auto rotate like the gs6e.
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They didn't release the note edge 2 because even though it was limited, you can go into any carrier and see it collecting dust on display for the past 9 months. I got it on launch day and only saw one other person with the note edge, and I work in a hotel, so I see a LOT of people everyday with their phones out.
As much as I loved having a phone no one else had, it was cumbersome to say the least with the snapdragon 805 constantly getting hot and dropping frames, and the battery that couldn't hold a charge well because of all the quick charge cycles. Not to mention the lack of development(from Samsung). Props to sbreen and tekhd for keeping this device interesting for the 9 months I had this device.
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Yes lack is development is there and disappointing as well. The edge part has a lot of potential but there are very limited apps. Also S6's edge is completely different from note edge so you can't expect development to carry on for long.
Another thing I can say is that there is no more recents lag like on the note edge. Loving that
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Why do i always like the niche products? I miss my N900 by nokia running maemo. Amazing unique phone in a world of androids and iphones and it had a stylus like my note edge... My last phone was an Xperia z1 and I live in the USA, no one here has sony phones. I also had an lg g2x, I bought it for its unique tegra processor, one of the first of its kind.
It's sad to see Samsung take the safe route with the Note 5 but hopefully it's just them wanting a guaranteed income and can then go back to taking a risk again with the Note Edge.
While the Galaxy series is popular and well known it still pails in comparison to the iPhone and I would hate if they continued down this path as we'd all essentially end up with iPhones with Android on them.
Hi guys,
actually the Note Edge brought me back to Samsung, after I left 2 years ago due to big problems with my Note 3 and the customer service of Samsung. So I sold it and had a HTC One, which now shows the disadvantage of a built in battery.
But when I looked around to find my next phone I was even more upset by the fact that every nice phone had no changeable battery, sd-card etc.
Found the S6 edge+ sexy, but same problems there. So I decided to look for the last available innovation which had the battery / SD-card thing still available for my decision and boom: Note Edge.
Bought it in mint condition second hand, 390 €, from January 2015I What shall I say: I really love it, and I will be happy with it until Samsung recognizes its mistake and turn around.
Good to be back again.

Galaxy S6 Edge+ or Note 5 - Which one did you buy ?

After the Samsung event today, when the pre-order went live, I got crazy over which one to buy. Even on samsung website, they have put a teaser to select the one I like. For being a note fan, I was inclined towards Note although I loved the edge display of S6 (never liked the 'S' series though). But finally, I took the big step. Ordered one S6 Edge+. Thought why not give a try, I can always change it after a year or two if its not that good, but I gotta try the edge for once.
So, which one did you buy ? (if you thought its worth the upgrade ofcourse). Or do you think I made a mistake ?
Yeah who know's if it's a good choice or not - tell us what it's like when you get it
Note 5 pretty much killed the Note series
I'll get it on 28th. I expected a delivery with the release date, however, I booked mine from BestBuy since they were giving away a free wireless charger (please note that this is not the fast wireless charging pad). I'll post some reviews once I use it for considerable time.:cyclops:
If you're one of 750 million people in Europe Samsung made the decision for you ...
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I'm still on my note 2 here. I was waiting for the announcement to decide if I wanted to go to note 4 or note 5.
The lack of SD card and no removable battery killed it for me.
Then I saw the new keyboard case!!
Omg be still my heart! It's been 4 years since my beloved HTC G2 and it's physical keyboard.
I might jump ship from the note and go for the s6 edge +!
I don't use my spen very often...
I like the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge plus, but the battery maybe the big problem which is bother me. Do I need to carry a power bank with it all day lone?
I wonder if existing S6 Edge owners will be pissed since they just bought a spanking new phone only a few months back, and now so soon an upgrade has been released.
Edge+ for me. I rarely used the S-Pen and just bought the Note line due to the large screen. Battery is a concern, but we will see.
Note 4. Samsung makes decision easy.
Being in the UK it would have to be the S6 Edge+. The only issue is that currently my provider (O2) has announced There will be 1 capacity available - 32GB but it hasn't even been 24 hours so I'm hoping it's incorrect.
Currently running 96GB on my Note
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Note 4. Samsung makes decision easy.
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Exactly. The only thing good about the Note 5 or S6 Edge+ is the looks, mostly everything else is a downgrade over the Note 4.
Lembo said:
Being in the UK it would have to be the S6 Edge+. The only issue is that currently my provider (O2) has announced There will be 1 capacity available - 32GB but it hasn't even been 24 hours so I'm hoping it's incorrect.
Currently running 96GB on my Note
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Hey fellow loyal Samsung user who don't exist according to Samsung!
Even though I would have managed to get over the fact that for what ever reason the Samsung god decided we are not worthy of Note 5, when I went to O2 website and saw the only option of 32 GB.... I simply just close the tab and went to look at XiaoMi Redmi Note 2!
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Right, Note 5 would have been my best choice for an high-end device to buy.
So... I'll buy a Nexus 5 2015.
I got a ship notification for the GS6E+ for a Monday delivery. I guess AT&T had them ready. I just ordered a few hours ago.
Im soo hyped i just got both the S6 Edge+ and the Note 5 pre ordered and im going forum post trigger happy lol I hope they mod, custom rom etc the works on these devices cuz i cant wait to see what these magicians can do with these devices!
which color are u getting, looks like US is getting only the black and the gold version, i was keen on the silver titanium version.
The verizon store owner who is also a friend told me that the gold version looks very classy, as a samsung rep brought it over to the store to show it to him.
I am kinda finding it hard figure out, if i should get the gold or the black
Decided on the edge+ cause i never use the s-pen
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first guy in UK to get one ! maybe in the world
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Note 4. Samsung makes decision easy.
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Exactly. The only thing good about the Note 5 or S6 Edge+ is the looks, mostly everything else is a downgrade over the Note 4.
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Well, I'm not the one to judge what you should or shouldn't buy, however, I wouldn't say its a downgrade in anyway. For further clarification, let me take a few examples of the things people have been complaining about:-
Lower Battery Life
-You might say it has a 200-300 mAh lesser than any competitive device or even older Note devices. However, there is a good reason for that too. The new AMOLED is highly optimized for less power consumption compared to older Note devices. GS6 Edge and Edge+/N5 packs the same Quad HD resolution, hence the screen consumption will be same even though the screen size is bigger since the PPI is reduced in Edge+/N5 (which is again irrelevant to naked eye).
-The 14nm processor is way more power efficient than the older processors used in Note series.
- The non inclusion of SD Card also positively affects the battery life, check google for more info (we will come to the negative side later)
- The LPDDR4 RAM in newer smartphones have double the efficiency (data rate) with considerably less power consumption.
Even though I do not disagree that inclusion of bigger battery with some compromise over thickness would have been better, however, the battery (even though sounds less on paper) is equivalent (if not more) to what we used to get in old note series.
Missing SD Card
This seems to be one of the biggest worries for most of the folks, and they do have a valid reason for that. However, if we talk about why the SD Card hasn't been included, I can tell you its definitely not because SD Card is not supported with UFS2.0. The real reason is due to UFS2.0 being too fast (atleast 3 times of eMMC 5.1 ). When coupled with an SD Card, just imagine the user experience when half the app is running from UFS2.0 while its cache/data is stored in SD Card, that might actually lead to lags. This is the same reason for Apple not supporting SD Cards too (they don't use UFS2.0 though). Although its not the perfect replacement, however, you can pick some cheap sandisk otg flash drives for like 10-15 bux or may be wifi flash drives for like 30-40 bux. At least that's what I use.
Removable Battery
I think they did it to make create that unibody design and give it the premium look. I know it might not be what we were looking for in Note series, however, I do remember the days of the past (like 2 years back) when Samsung was criticized for their cheap plastic models compared to metallic HTCs. Well, guess what, they heard us. Even I miss this one. I'm looking forward to pick one MobilePal QI enabled power bank which retails at around 38 bux. I know we can't carry another bulky device with us all the time, but samsung didn't leave us with much choice in this area.
Missing IR Blaster
I still couldn't figure out what made them get rid of this. I was so much looking forward to this one and this is probably the only thing I would miss on my upcoming flagship. Can't do much here either...
Overall, I do not think Samsung has released a downgrade to its predecessors. The inclusion of amazing hardware [14nm fastest processor, UFS2.0, DDR4 RAM, Fast Wireless Charging, LTE Cat9, Optimized S-PEN, etc] bundled with its fair and unique software does put it above any other flagships in the market ( if we do not consider the price range ). Again, this is not for the sake of any argument, its just as per my analysis. Please feel free to correct me if I've mentioned anything wrong.
If you don't like to call it a downgrade then call it a sidegrade if you like and of cause the SOC, Fast RAM, Software improvements for the SPEN and so on are on the plus side. The problems you name for a SD card would apply to OTG storage just the same, besides you have to have this externally plugged in tearing at the usb port. For now the majority of S6 users seem not to be very impressed by battery time. Maybe software improvements can make that better and the hardware has the potential to deliver equal running times, but for S6 users this promise is not yet fullfilled.
The plastic back of Samsung phone always were a pro argument for me and i did never understand why people cried for metal or glass bodies. A plastic back is light weight, very cheap replaceable. Never had a problem with that while other phones with metal bodies had poor connection strength.
Actually i bought the Note 4 yesterday from my carrier for 19,95€ with contract prolongation while a S6 (without edge) with 128GB would have cost me more than 340€ and S6edge+ will probably be even more expensive while having only 64GB and the Note not be available for Europa at all (at least for now). Paying 300-400€ more for a phone that has some technical advantages and a lot of disadvantages in usability and the promise that regarding battery time it might come close to the note 4 and some of the insufficiencies can be compensated, somehow. Sorry, I don't see this for me.
I think their new commercial slogan will be "Samsung, making decisions easy!".

Top 5 MAJOR Flaws Of The Galaxy Note 5!

I have to say that I was pretty hyped about this device while watching the unpacked event. Then again I am always stoked when new devices are announced and released I am just a tech nerd I guess. I am not hating on this device. In fact I have already pre-ordered mine, and at full price so I can keep my Verizon unlimited data however there are several flaws present in this device. These flaws are especially true if you are upgrading from a device like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4.
What do you guys think? Are these flaws enough to keep you away from the Note 5? I mean it still has plenty going for it. Revamped premium design, great screen, great camera, SPEN, Samsung Pay, wireless fast charging and the list goes on and on.
Coming from an LG G2, it's a clear upgrade across the board. I dont even fill up my current 32GB so the 64GB note 5 I have preordered should be more than enough space.
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
It is a great video and those are not a deterrence to me coming from a S4. Hopefully I will get to see his next video on why to get the Note 5. At this point I might consider the Note 4 just to save money. Either one is a big upgrade for me.
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
Slie said:
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Honestly. People say that a lot..but it's wrong. It has most of the Note features that were on the 3 and 4, but the software is completely different. It's more like the s6.
Hardware is completely different too. It has the s6 hardware with more ram. I'm not sure why people think it's just a note 4 in a new body. It's far from that.
Not saying there isn't a level of disappointment. .there definitely is, only for different reasons. If I was coming from the Note 4 straight to the 5 without a 4 month pit stop on the s6, I'd be stoked. Problem is, I have the s6 and this is basically that with the spen features added. The Note line used to be a bigger upgrade over the previous S version. This year it's not.
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Well, the guy has to get his hands on the phone to do a review right?
rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
Maybe the trend has changed and the Galaxy S series is the phone to get the newest changes first. Seems to me with the S6 Samsung threw it against the wall and it stuck. It sold lots of phones and maybe for the more mainstream users the Note 5 will sell a ton. I think Samsung Note line was getting stale and needed an update. Heck if Samsung wasn't trying all this weird stuff with devices who knows where the smartphone market would be.
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
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I am hardly a sheep. Vote with your wallet and Samsung will get the message. The way I see it the new S6 design sold well so they figured they could capitalize on it with the Note 5. If they don't sell many the Note 6 may be different. If you don't like it buy another device this round. Seems that SD card slots and spare batteries are gonna be a thing of the past whether we like it or not.
By the way no disrespect to Rootjunky. He is great for the community but at this point everything is speculation.
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As far as we know, the S6 doesn't meet the expectations of Samsung in terms of sales.
I think, the Note 5 we are seeing is simply the result of decisions take a moment ago , regardless of the sales of S6.
I don't think there was anyway Samsung was going to keep increasing market share in the Android world. Probably why they have toyed around with Tizen. The flood of cheap phones from so many manufacturers was bound to happen with an open ecosystem. I think they figured that out a long time ago. They want to be the premium android manufacturer and not play in the low price war. They were probably smart and would have lost more market share if they had kept producing plastic, me too kind of devices. That's also the same reason they've always pushed all their special features (or bloat) Try to get you locked into something like Apple does. It just doesn't work unless the operating system is locked down and you control it.
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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DroidModderX did the video LOL and yes I did pre-order the device and it arrives Tuesday. I think this device will be great, but i believe it is my job to weigh the pros and the cons of these devices.
I only have 3 major flaws but they are all deal breakers:
-no IR
-no 128GB
-Not available in the Netherlands
Other disappointments:
-small and non removable battery
-fragile build materials
-same processor as s6
-same camera as s6
The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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well the MicroSD is just the trade off for going with UFS 2.0. The memory controller doesn't natively support SDcards, so in order to have an SD card slot the phone would have to use eMMC 5.0/5.1 memory controller (which also supports SDcards), or add in a 2nd memory controller just to control the microSD slot. Which is a lot of PCB and headache just for a microSD slot, and i'm not sure if the Exynos 7420 would even allow you to use 2 different memory controllers at once, so i'm not even sure if you COULD just throw in another memory controller, even if you found space for it.
Basically, UFS 2.0 as the memory controller currently stands just doesn't support microSD, the next iteration of the UFS controller could potentially add microsd support, but I wouldnt count on it either.
As for the IR blaster, likely a space issue, but only samsung would know on that one.
hypersonicx said:
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
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You do know that the S6 edge has the exact same cpu and camera, right? The only thing thats upgraded is the memory. You were already on cutting edge.
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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So what?
anyone can buy an a mediocre product. The thing is, it will disappoint and will no longer make you happy every day like the its predecessors did. Especially if it is grossly overpriced.
yes, for the majority of us, it would be insane to buy galaxy note 5, especially for its price.
but some people could, it's their choice.
i, personally, will vote with my wallet, and will advice AGAINST buying samsung products in my community.
Thanks for the correction. I don't know why I confuse those guys.
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