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Galaxy S III Discussion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who could even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing. It's still easily one of the best phones on the market, but it's now in a market populated by the HTC One X and the Huawei Ascend D XL, the former which is stunningly beautiful, and the latter has the chance to be even more specs-heavy than the S3.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.

2hvy4grvty said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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I actually think is a very nice release!
Cant wait for it to come to the US --

Being tested by tmo already
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.

krazygreen said:
Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Can't say I agree because most of the devs aren't impressed
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When it comes out in the USA, i dont know if im really getting it. Thats what happened when the S2 first came out. It came out around summer 2011 then a couple months later on a october, the tmobile brand t989 was released with upgraded hardware. Maybe the S3 might follow the same route.
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S3 Hardware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nIoynGqYg&feature=related
S3 Software: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknPkDGzsjM&feature=g-all
'Quad-core' is a good marketing term for selling. Minor differences in everyday use in my opinion. You'll notice the difference if you run a benchmark.

I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?

Some of the features they show off will be unique to it, because the S3 uses a new version of Touchwiz that the Galaxy S2 isn't getting. Our ICS update is more a minor update, whereas the S3 gets some unique features. Kind of like HTC adding unique features to Sense 4 versus phones with Sense 3.5, even though both are on ICS.
-the ultimate black dragon-

If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..

CincoDeDrinko said:
I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
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That's touchwiz i wasn't impressed at all. It not even all that special especially since samsung didn't even bother using a15 architecture on their processor. So qualcomm will be in the lead till ti omap is released. The only noticeable feature was picture in picture and that is it. Guess ill be sticking with the nexus line because
all those features are useless. but they can be done with apps which someone will probably do in the future.

The pebbles thing made me chuckle lol
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Meh. Looks nice, but I'll reserve judgment until it arrives at T-Mobile USA. We'll see if it stays the same or becomes a varient that shares nothing but the name, like this one did.
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"where companies fail, the dev community will succeed."

foreverloco said:
If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.

Killbynature said:
All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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Yea that what I meant buy the international unlocked for att but again I wasn't to impressed with it so I'm leaning towards getting the note and riding it out til the next nexus.

i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better

I actually love it!
But it only has HSPA +21
No HSPA +42 for us TMO users?
WTF ?

SevenSe7enSeven said:
i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
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Jts actually the same size as this phone. Just remove the bezel space.
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I agree with OP. Pretty much a let down here. Minor upgrades with some gimmicks. It will be the same story all over for us nerds here who want updates. Sure it has nice specs, but development is going to be slow for 6-9 months after the next OS release for android I probably wont own it, I don't need those specs for anything. All games run perfect on dual cores.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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false.
If you were wondering about radios, it's launching with HSPA+, but there's an LTE version in the cards.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-is-official/

which s3 lte model to get?

Hi,
I've been monitoring the S3 lte threads and researching the different variants of the i9305.
So far i've been inclined to get the HK version which supports multiple lte bands.
I need your options\advise here please. Are there any pro's/con's with this choice? Would you recommend a different model?
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphone/GT-I9305TADTGY-spec
I just want to be sure before i go ahead and buy it.

Steve113 said:
Hi,
I've been monitoring the S3 lte threads and researching the different variants of the i9305.
So far i've been inclined to get the HK version which supports multiple lte bands.
I need your options\advise here please. Are there any pro's/con's with this choice? Would you recommend a different model?
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphone/GT-I9305TADTGY-spec
I just want to be sure before i go ahead and buy it.
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Con, plastic, close undocumented source code, no full project butter, pentile display, back cover easy scratch, slow update, s voice useless, ugly design, display bezel bump out result easy crack when drop, ugly touchwiz software icon like iphone, don't listen to codeworkx advice to release true source code, make codeworkx mad run away, home button misplaced, Samsung logo on the front, amoled screen burn, not true black, bloatware, amoled lifespan less compare to lcd..
Pro, big screen.
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w1nter456 said:
Con, plastic, close undocumented source code, no full project butter, pentile display, back cover easy scratch, slow update, s voice useless, ugly design, display bezel bump out result easy crack when drop, ugly touchwiz software icon like iphone, don't listen to codeworkx advice to release true source code, make codeworkx mad run away, home button misplaced, Samsung logo on the front, amoled screen burn, not true black, bloatware, amoled lifespan less compare to lcd..
Pro, big screen.
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Nice

Steve113 said:
Hi,
I've been monitoring the S3 lte threads and researching the different variants of the i9305.
So far i've been inclined to get the HK version which supports multiple lte bands.
I need your options\advise here please. Are there any pro's/con's with this choice? Would you recommend a different model?
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphone/GT-I9305TADTGY-spec
I just want to be sure before i go ahead and buy it.
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If you want S3 LTE I rather you get the Note II. I think more developers will develop for the S3 International 3G version than the LTE version. At least Note II is only LTE version so to me more people will develop roms and kernels for the Note II than the S3 LTE.

tanjiajun_34 said:
If you want S3 LTE I rather you get the Note II. I think more developers will develop for the S3 International 3G version than the LTE version. At least Note II is only LTE version so to me more people will develop roms and kernels for the Note II than the S3 LTE.
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Next nexus much better.
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w1nter456 said:
Next nexus much better.
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Thanks for your previous contributions I did wonder if you were trying to be funny or deliberately obtuse.
In any case the topic back to the topic I'm only interested in comparing the different LTE versions of the S3.
I know there are different variants out there like the Australian 9305, UK, HK and others....
anyone with useful information please put your input through...

Steve113 said:
Thanks for your previous contributions I did wonder if you were trying to be funny or deliberately obtuse.
In any case the topic back to the topic I'm only interested in comparing the different LTE versions of the S3.
I know there are different variants out there like the Australian 9305, UK, HK and others....
anyone with useful information please put your input through...
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Ok, 2g ram with lte. You won't regret it.
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AOSP for S5

What is the condition for developers to build AOSP for new Samsung Galaxy S5?

ivankolev said:
What is the condition for developers to build AOSP for new Samsung Galaxy S5?
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this is why I still have not purchased an S5 yet.........

Sufficient sources.
There are already AOSP/CM builds available in the Original Dev section..

Hellscythe said:
Sufficient sources.
There are already AOSP/CM builds available in the Original Dev section..
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Not for the Sprint variant (G900P)
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DistrictDigital said:
Not for the Sprint variant (G900P)
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Yeah carrier devices usually take longer to pick up on

I've got a philosophical question for everyone. Does it really make rational sense to pay premium for an S5 only to then install AOSP? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to acquire a Nexus 5 for half the price?
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with S5 our m8 our G3.... you are buying the hardware....
if you love AOSP.....you love AOSP....no matter the device.....
if you love AOSP...then all you really are buying is the hardware
sent from a Galaxy very very near......

mediumsteak said:
I've got a philosophical question for everyone. Does it really make rational sense to pay premium for an S5 only to then install AOSP? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to acquire a Nexus 5 for half the price?
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Exactly what I was thinking. I was planning to get a G2 and slap AOSP onto it because where I live, a 32gb g2 is cheaper than a 16gb nexus 5.

rcatank said:
with S5 our m8 our G3.... you are buying the hardware....
if you love AOSP.....you love AOSP....no matter the device.....
if you love AOSP...then all you really are buying is the hardware
sent from a Galaxy very very near......
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AOSP is definitely great in terms of performance, modification friendliness and flexibility.
However, I would suggest that spending $699 on a phone regardless of whether it is an M8 or S5 or Note 3 just to abandon the differentiating features such as multi-window, finger print sensor and depth camera make absolutely no sense.
One could argue that just a few years ago the decision to run AOSP on a flagship device such as the HTC One X or the Samsung Galaxy S3 made for an excellent alternative strategy due to limitations in the stock software which caused issues including laggy performance, resource hogging and slow software updates. However, in the upscale smartphone market today, the vast majority of such shortcomings have been eliminated. Furthermore, manufacturers now focus on differentiation via various innovative features such as the S-Pen, dual speakers and IP67 resistance in hopes of capturing market share.
Hence, purchasing a premium tier smartphone in order to strip away the differentiating features demonstrates a careless squander of financial resources when the individual could have achieved the exact same experience on a mid-range device such as the Moto X or the Nexus 5.

Hellscythe said:
Exactly what I was thinking. I was planning to get a G2 and slap AOSP onto it because where I live, a 32gb g2 is cheaper than a 16gb nexus 5.
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How much is the N5 in Australia?

aooga said:
How much is the N5 in Australia?
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449 dollars for 32gb model on the Play Store.
Woops my bad, 16gb Nexus 5 is 399, which is slightly cheaper than 430 dollars for a 32gb G2

Hellscythe said:
449 dollars for 32gb model on the Play Store.
Woops my bad, 16gb Nexus 5 is 399, which is slightly cheaper than 430 dollars for a 32gb G2
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Here's another reason why this whole conversation is still all subjective.... It's also about where you live in the pricing available to you...
For us in the US here the pricing for Carrier based phones are all around the same price... S5 @$150 or less... m8 @$199 or less, G2 @$50 or Free (recent change due to G3 release)
If you wait 1 more month...all phones will be either free or at max $50, since we pay higher carrier fees than most countries.
sent from a Galaxy very very near......

mediumsteak said:
I've got a philosophical question for everyone. Does it really make rational sense to pay premium for an S5 only to then install AOSP? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to acquire a Nexus 5 for half the price?
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I owned the nexus 5. Hardware blows. Touchscreen was aweful
Follow me @Bash_array

das7982 said:
I owned the nexus 5. Hardware blows. Touchscreen was aweful
Follow me @Bash_array
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For me it was excellent, I guess there's a larger variance in HW quality when it comes to Nexus devices, same situation happened for the N7.

drakester09 said:
For me it was excellent, I guess there's a larger variance in HW quality when it comes to Nexus devices, same situation happened for the N7.
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This is not necessarily a Nexus problem. Any manufacturer that orders the identical component from 3 different suppliers will end up building products with HW variations. Keep in mind that this issue is not only limited to the Nexus product line.

mediumsteak said:
AOSP is definitely great in terms of performance, modification friendliness and flexibility.
However, I would suggest that spending $699 on a phone regardless of whether it is an M8 or S5 or Note 3 just to abandon the differentiating features such as multi-window, finger print sensor and depth camera make absolutely no sense.
One could argue that just a few years ago the decision to run AOSP on a flagship device such as the HTC One X or the Samsung Galaxy S3 made for an excellent alternative strategy due to limitations in the stock software which caused issues including laggy performance, resource hogging and slow software updates. However, in the upscale smartphone market today, the vast majority of such shortcomings have been eliminated. Furthermore, manufacturers now focus on differentiation via various innovative features such as the S-Pen, dual speakers and IP67 resistance in hopes of capturing market share.
Hence, purchasing a premium tier smartphone in order to strip away the differentiating features demonstrates a careless squander of financial resources when the individual could have achieved the exact same experience on a mid-range device such as the Moto X or the Nexus 5.
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That's your opinion. But each phone and each hardware is different: you won't find an external SD slot or a removable battery on the Moto X or the N5. Some people are Samsung users for these reasons only, and couldn't care less with the "features" added by TouchWiz that they find useless (that's my case).
To give a personal example, turning my Galaxy S4 into an custom AOSP phone made it at least ten times better for me. Very fast and smooth UI, nice minimalistic look, removed all the useless Samsung apps and features I wasn't using (smart screen, etc.) In fact the only thing I'm missing is the lockscreen lol, I somehow liked the Samsung ripple effect...

mediumsteak said:
I've got a philosophical question for everyone. Does it really make rational sense to pay premium for an S5 only to then install AOSP? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to acquire a Nexus 5 for half the price?
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Because the S5 has a better battery life and screen than the N5?
(former Nexus 5 owner. Currently: Galaxy S4)

mediumsteak said:
AOSP is definitely great in terms of performance, modification friendliness and flexibility.
However, I would suggest that spending $699 on a phone regardless of whether it is an M8 or S5 or Note 3 just to abandon the differentiating features such as multi-window, finger print sensor and depth camera make absolutely no sense.
One could argue that just a few years ago the decision to run AOSP on a flagship device such as the HTC One X or the Samsung Galaxy S3 made for an excellent alternative strategy due to limitations in the stock software which caused issues including laggy performance, resource hogging and slow software updates. However, in the upscale smartphone market today, the vast majority of such shortcomings have been eliminated. Furthermore, manufacturers now focus on differentiation via various innovative features such as the S-Pen, dual speakers and IP67 resistance in hopes of capturing market share.
Hence, purchasing a premium tier smartphone in order to strip away the differentiating features demonstrates a careless squander of financial resources when the individual could have achieved the exact same experience on a mid-range device such as the Moto X or the Nexus 5.
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You aren't taking into consideration the wide range of features available on AOSP ROMs nor the many additional features obtainable through XPOSED or even the Play Store in general. They are far more extensive and useful than any manufacturer's features IMO. As for hardware features, they'd normally be supported in AOSP, depending on the feature, such as the S-Pen. If not, there are developers out there that make AOSP ROMs supporting unique software/hardware features.

Slim
Unfortunately I can't post on the slim thread but the 9-9-2014 I have flashed on my g900T tonight. I used a version of an inverted velvet gapps for aosp 4.4.4. You can search for darkhorse inverted apps you can use any of the 4.4.2.+ I believe. These Gapps look great with it.
Also the pac-rom is fully functional with the g900t also. I flashed both and have both working.
Both roms camera, dialer incoming answer, APNs [Editable and can be saved but they are already working].
If you aren't interested in the camera for g900t Mokee Rom and Cabon Rom both are ajust about fully functional without the camera. Carbon Rom you need to just add the APN to get data which you can search for instruactions. Its very easy.
And CM11 seems to be fully functional it just doesn't have all the MODs built in that the other AOSP Roms do. Its perfect for anyone that wants to switch for stock to AOSP.
This is true up to todays date to my knowledge. I am just thrilled I finally have a working SlimROM on my S5 as of today.

Galaxy S6 Edge plus, or 6P?

Hello all.
I have T Mobile jump on demand, and right now I have galaxy S6 Edge plus, but I have always used the nexus phone. Does anyone know if next nexus will be better than S6 edge plus? with this new jump from T Mobile, we have the option to do three changes, I love nexus phones, but S6 Edge plus is amazing. What do you think, nexus 6P, or S6 Edge Plus?
Thank you for your answers.

MCASTILLO said:
Hello all.
I have T Mobile jump on demand, and right now I have galaxy S6 Edge plus, but I have always used the nexus phone. Does anyone know if next nexus will be better than S6 edge plus? with this new jump from T Mobile, we have the option to do three changes, I love nexus phones, but S6 Edge plus is amazing. What do you think, nexus 6P, or S6 Edge Plus?
Thank you for your answers.
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For T-mobile and Sprint users the s6 + note 5 are the kings of all cell phones. The samsung phones beat the nexus 6p in every category. People on Verizon and AT&T it's best to switch to Nexus 6p because we have lock bootloaders, super slow updates etc.. I have a note 5 verizon and I'm switching, but when it comes to specs the nexus 6p can't even get close to the note 5. I'm going to do a youtube video before selling my note 5 once I get my nexus 6p.

MCASTILLO said:
Hello all.
I have T Mobile jump on demand, and right now I have galaxy S6 Edge plus, but I have always used the nexus phone. Does anyone know if next nexus will be better than S6 edge plus? with this new jump from T Mobile, we have the option to do three changes, I love nexus phones, but S6 Edge plus is amazing. What do you think, nexus 6P, or S6 Edge Plus?
Thank you for your answers.
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It's better because the boot loader is not locked and it doesn't have carrier bloat.

2swizzle said:
For T-mobile and Sprint users the s6 + note 5 are the kings of all cell phones. The samsung phones beat the nexus 6p in every category. People on Verizon and AT&T it's best to switch to Nexus 6p because we have lock bootloaders, super slow updates etc.. I have a note 5 verizon and I'm switching, but when it comes to specs the nexus 6p can't even get close to the note 5. I'm going to do a youtube video before selling my note 5 once I get my nexus 6p.
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Better in terms of HW on paper. But SW wise nexus will always be king. In terms of a fluid UI that is. Hopefully google really optimized battery life this time around to complete with OEM's. You want a fluid device with the fastest updates and good HW ... Nexus all the way.
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Yep Nexus rules...its a XDA thing!

i was asking myself that exact same question, especially cuz here in Germany the S6E+ and the 6P will only be about 30€ apart (ikr, insane.... one of those rare instances where i wished i was in the US! ugh)
anyways, bottom line was that id still be going for the 6P, im just too much of a nexus fanboy direct and clean android updates, tons of custom roms, larger battery and, tbh, better looking design did it for me!

jbmc83 said:
i was asking myself that exact same question, especially cuz here in Germany the S6E+ and the 6P will only be about 30€ apart (ikr, insane.... one of those rare instances where i wished i was in the US! ugh)
anyways, bottom line was that id still be going for the 6P, im just too much of a nexus fanboy direct and clean android updates, tons of custom roms, larger battery and, tbh, better looking design did it for me!
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im kinda disappointed... the 810 processor have been killing phones all year. And see as how its underclocked in the 6p one can only assume that it still sucks.

Samsung is a no go. KNOX on Samsung has me running away.

Thankful
I appreciate your responses, definitely I am going back to the nexus devices.
Does anyone know when it will be available in the different carriers, here in US?
Again, thank you all.

Gungrave223 said:
im kinda disappointed... the 810 processor have been killing phones all year. And see as how its underclocked in the 6p one can only assume that it still sucks.
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Why do you assume when this is NOT TRUE.
Greg Joplin

If any carriers in the US does not sell 6P, jump on demand from T Mobile will be useless, I am very disappointed, I bought S6 Edge with jump, thinking changing it for Nexus 6P, what do we do now!
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joplin_gl said:
Why do you assume when this is NOT TRUE.
Greg Joplin
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Not really sure where the assumption is. Not including the the SD 810v1, if you look up the OnePlus 2 which have v2 it stills suffers from performance issues, heating issues, and throttling issue....so remind me what it is that I'm assuming again unless this SD 810 is actually the 820 in disguise

Gungrave223 said:
im kinda disappointed... the 810 processor have been killing phones all year. And see as how its underclocked in the 6p one can only assume that it still sucks.
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how is it underclocked? its at 2 ghz, SD810 doesnt get any higher according to official qualcomm specs...

jbmc83 said:
how is it underclocked? its at 2 ghz, SD810 doesnt get any higher according to official qualcomm specs...
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Yep you're right it isn't, but the jury is still out performance wise

I'm failing to see how the s6+ and note 5 are smashin the 6p in the HW department. They are very comparable in specs.

clorbag said:
I'm failing to see how the s6+ and note 5 are smashin the 6p in the HW department. They are very comparable in specs.
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The only way would be the better thermal efficiency of the Exynos.

Batfink33 said:
The only way would be the better thermal efficiency of the Exynos.
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That's what I'm thinking seems lame people are saying it is better hardware wise in a phone that hasn't been even reviewed yet. Exynos doesn't even have any great support but that's a software thing.

Once you've tasted Exynos you'll never want it again. No sane dev wants to waste the time on that crap. Factor in KNOX, LagWiz and Samsung's notoriously bad "support" if you ever need 'em, makes it an easy choice. If you need/want root it's even easier unless you want a goofy "warranty void" message every bootup.
Meanwhile all the Nexuses will be on Android N this time next year and the Note 5 will be abandonware in classic Samsung fashion, all the dev forums will be barren except a few old hacked stock-ish roms. Even Samsung doesn't like to support Exynos

clorbag said:
I'm failing to see how the s6+ and note 5 are smashin the 6p in the HW department. They are very comparable in specs.
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They are comparable on specs but the note is overall better in hardware. I will say the nexus is on par with the 6S plus.
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you simply cant compare specs between the iphone and android phones. ios requires so much less horsepower

Samsung did it again .... So stupid

Here we go again Samyy halts the S7 N updated .... I hate to bring the bad news but I am getting pissed with sammy
well we pay so high prices for Sammy's phones to get a good phone
First, it is so loaded with sammy's interface that kills the device resources.
Second the phones freezes more than ever all the sammys phones they freeze when they are coming from Idle state
third we got the updates very very very very late .... so when some others got alreadu Nougat and they are enjoying it for so many months
sammy decides to wait and wait and wait and then in the end at a point when we are about to get rid of the device sammy comes with here we go this is you update when I am waiting for my next phone to come in shipment
I am kinda pissed and I am guessing this might be the last Sammy phone.
this is too much
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_halts_galaxy_s7_nougat_update_rollout-news-22777.php

This is for China model, 7.0 OTA is rolling for hours now...

Read before rant

Omg please stop spreading this bs. It has been discussed 100 times in several threads on XDA...

*Detection* said:
Read before rant
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I read it is for china but seams like this will effect all of us

Uwe303 said:
Omg please stop spreading this bs. It has been discussed 100 times in several threads on XDA...
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well this is very new news sir and I am sharing

voolandis said:
This is for China model, 7.0 OTA is rolling for hours now...
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I hope so sir ... my finger crossed .

neoissa said:
I hope so sir ... my finger crossed .
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The update is already available in the UK, just calm down.
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iridaki said:
The update is already available in the UK, just calm down.
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I hope so... But I am not calm
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Please close this nonsense

Mods please close this rant thread.
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Yep they did it again, released an update, and it works fine. Phew

I'm actually disappointed in Samsung as well. My biggest complaint is that anyone willing to dish out $600+ on a phone should be able to do whatever they please to customize the phone to their liking. While everyone is enjoying the international version of the S7 with the Exynos octacore, the users on the US version running snapdragon quadcore are locked down with pretty much nothing to do. I've had several issues with my phone. The phone is loaded with 339 apps and I can't uninstall them. I can disable them, but there are still services running in the background and the awesome piece of hardware doesn't even work properly because all the resources are consumed by the numerous amounts of bloatware. I get people's frustration about the phone. I've tried cleaning it as much as I can, but it doesn't matter because even with all the greenify, forcedoze, leandroid tweaks it still drains more battery than it should and the performance is mediocre at best. The only thing I can say is Samsung does a great job with their camera's. I too ended up having to buy a new phone because I didn't want to keep playing with this thing just so that it operates like I want it to. I don't even use it for gaming or anything like that. Just multitasking, social media every now and then and that's all. Touchwiz is very laggy, and I don't blame people to be frustrated. That's just my opinion though.

m0d hipp¥ said:
I'm actually disappointed in Samsung as well. My biggest complaint is that anyone willing to dish out $600+ on a phone should be able to do whatever they please to customize the phone to their liking. While everyone is enjoying the international version of the S7 with the Exynos octacore, the users on the US version running snapdragon quadcore are locked down with pretty much nothing to do. I've had several issues with my phone. The phone is loaded with 339 apps and I can't uninstall them. I can disable them, but there are still services running in the background and the awesome piece of hardware doesn't even work properly because all the resources are consumed by the numerous amounts of bloatware. I get people's frustration about the phone. I've tried cleaning it as much as I can, but it doesn't matter because even with all the greenify, forcedoze, leandroid tweaks it still drains more battery than it should and the performance is mediocre at best. The only thing I can say is Samsung does a great job with their camera's. I too ended up having to buy a new phone because I didn't want to keep playing with this thing just so that it operates like I want it to. I don't even use it for gaming or anything like that. Just multitasking, social media every now and then and that's all. Touchwiz is very laggy, and I don't blame people to be frustrated. That's just my opinion though.
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Honestly it's your fault. You should have researched about the phone, in specific that variant before buying it. There were PLENTYYYY of sites online, Including XDA who reported that the bootloader was locked in the Snapdragon US variants.

I def do my research. I'm no novice when it comes to technology. I just think if you're buying something for $600 it would be fair to have a device that works properly. Not lags.. Wouldn't you agree?
I have an international S6 that is unlocked, but that phone has spotty LTE connection due to the bands. With the S7 I would run into the same issue if I were to get the international version.
The bootloader is only a small thing. The BIG issue is the lag and resource constraints in the phone. There is no need for all the bloatware. That's all I'm saying.

m0d hipp¥ said:
I def do my research. I'm no novice when it comes to technology. I just think if you're buying something for $600 it would be fair to have a device that works properly. Not lags.. Wouldn't you agree?
I have an international S6 that is unlocked, but that phone has spotty LTE connection due to the bands. With the S7 I would run into the same issue if I were to get the international version.
The bootloader is only a small thing. The BIG issue is the lag and resource constraints in the phone. There is no need for all the bloatware. That's all I'm saying.
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Which model you use? I have zero lag
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I just installed BTU rom on my Galaxy s7 and then i immediately received nougat

Well you have the 930F - exynos octacore as I mentioned above
64bit - Samsung Exynos 8 Octa 8890 (14nm)
CPU processor Octa-Core, 2 processors:
2.3Ghz Quad-Core Exynos M1 Mongoose
1.6Ghz Quad-Core ARM Cortex-A53
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I have the compatible one with my carrier which is the SM-G930T
Processor
Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820
Speed 2.1 GHz
Storage / Memory
Memory RAM 4.0 GB
Storage
32 GB
64 GB
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I'm not sure if the processor is the only difference in the performance. I'm assuming in terms of the software is concerned, it should be fairly similar in ROM's. However as I mentioned above I have 339 apps that come stock on my phone. This includes all the t-mobile apps, samsung apps, system apps etc... Now I'm not sure which ones are the ones that are so resource heavy, but I'm telling you when I switch between apps in the background there is a delay. When I scroll through a website there is a delay, when I read news from flipboard there is a delay. In terms of battery usage, I've used greenify, forcedoze, leanify and a few other apps that people on here recommended and the apps did help, but it still didn't really improve the performance. The CPU governor is set to interactive. I know I can raise the clock to make it more responsive, but I shouldn't have to do that at the cost of my battery and life of my phone. I think Samsung does an amazing job with the hardware they provide for the user; it's the software that I believe is throttling the heck out of the performance. However for those of you that have no complaints, it seems it's because you're on the Exynos version. The snapdragon version unfortunately has more issues than just the bootloader being locked.

XuperLugia said:
Please close this nonsense
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Why they should i am putting a subject that has a relation to the thread i didn't break any rule.
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takerhbk said:
Mods please close this rant thread.
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My subject is related to the thread.
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