I've heard that Samsung have decided against this fantastic feature out the box, something that annoys me somewhat. They probably don't trust people will know what it is and will ruin their phones as a result or perhaps they're scared people will run a class 4 card and reduce the system to a crawl. Either way, it should be an option if you ask me, even if it doesn't happen by default and you have to go out of your way to enable. I'd like to encrypt my S7 Edge, but have a decent amount of storage at the same time. The idea of having my phone encrypted but someone simply being able to remove the SD card and view it's contents isn't appealing at all.
I'm wondering if Samsung don't end up offering it in a future update, if it's something that can be baked into a custom stock build. Root would be required of course, but that's something I intend to perform as soon as it becomes available, I don't care about the Knox flag. I'm in the UK for a start so Samsung Pay means jack to me. And I've only every had a single repair performed by Samsung, and they did it free of charge despite the knox flag being tripped.
If you're lucky, then it'll end up in the new labs features. I think Samsung should've made it a developer setting out of the box but oh well. I prefer portable storage anyway.
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If you're lucky, then it'll end up in the new labs features. I think Samsung should've made it a developer setting out of the box but oh well. I prefer portable storage anyway.
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Completely agree!
That was one thing I was counting on! I mean come on they want us to be able to transfer data more effectively... They have created apps that allow us to do that via phone to phone through Samsung or with 3rd party apps.
Let us do what we want with our phone! I was banking on this feature. If they are afraid people with crappy microSD cards will complain about speeds make it a user agreement before formatting the card that they must accept.
Warning formatting this card and allowing adoptable storage may slow down the device and Samsung is not held liable. Agree and format or Cancel..... Problem solved.
The other thing that really killed me is no IR blaster... I found out after I preoreded. I just figured it would be there... I use that every day.... So now I am going to have to carry around my Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition.... That I was going to give to my wife once I got the bigger phone.... LOL
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The other thing that really killed me is no IR blaster... I found out after I preoreded. I just figured it would be there... I use that every day.... So now I am going to have to carry around my Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition.... That I was going to give to my wife once I got the bigger phone.... LOL
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I've found the next best thing... Have you looked into Harmony Hub? It is a little wifi device with an IR blaster that integrates into your TV environment. It works great for me, and I can use it no matter which phone I pick in the future since it is just an app at that point and doesn't need any special hardware other than wifi.
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I've found the next best thing... Have you looked into Harmony Hub? It is a little wifi device with an IR blaster that integrates into your TV environment. It works great for me, and I can use it no matter which phone I pick in the future since it is just an app at that point and doesn't need any special hardware other than wifi.
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Does it run any app?
I LOVE anymote! I use it on all my tvs. I have macros set up for each tv to turn on tv, sat box, blu ray, ps4, audio amp.... or whatever I want to use or turn off with push of buttons.
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Does it run any app?
I LOVE anymote! I use it on all my tvs. I have macros set up for each tv to turn on tv, sat box, blu ray, ps4, audio amp.... or whatever I want to use or turn off with push of buttons.
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No, you need to use the Harmony Remote App to control the TV with Harmony Hub. Its pretty robust and compatibility is top notch, it even will control Philips Hue lighting as well, but you definitely will be limited to just the Harmony app on your phone.
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No, you need to use the Harmony Remote App to control the TV with Harmony Hub. Its pretty robust and compatibility is top notch, it even will control Philips Hue lighting as well, but you definitely will be limited to just the Harmony app on your phone.
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OK. Thanks for info..
Does it have macro capability? That is huge for me. I mean Anymote is so robust and is constantly adding things to it. I hate to give it up. I really wish Samsung wouldn't have screwed up and would have spent the $2.00 it would have taken to put the ir blaster on it. I have seen a kickstarter add on which adds an IR to any phone but it looks pretty hideous in my opinion and you can't have a case with it from the way it looks.
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OK. Thanks for info..
Does it have macro capability? That is huge for me. I mean Anymote is so robust and is constantly adding things to it. I hate to give it up. I really wish Samsung wouldn't have screwed up and would have spent the $2.00 it would have taken to put the ir blaster on it. I have seen a kickstarter add on which adds an IR to any phone but it looks pretty hideous in my opinion and you can't have a case with it from the way it looks.
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If by macro you mean something like.... press one button to A) turn on television B) turn on DVD Player C) change to input 3
yes it does things like that.
can you root your phone and use Link2SD app?
I'm torn on it... what I don't understand is, why didn't they leave it to the user? could warn with a pop up pointing out the intended use and risk of data loss upon removal.
I actually don't know if it's something I'd use. I like to use my SD cards for data storage for things like pictures etc. now when my S7 comes in, i'll pop out my sd from my Note edge and put it in this one. there goes most of stuff moved over. you can't do this with the adoptable storage. I'd have to put all the pics onto my laptop, and move them back.
and yes... very sad with the IR blaster. not something I use often, but I love it when I do. it's sad to see it go. I liked using Peel because of the interactive tv guide which shows me what's playing, and I can just tune to that movie.
why remove such a small feature but so unique to this phone!? I guess we'll hopefully see it in S8
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why remove such a small feature but so unique to this phone!? I guess we'll hopefully see it in S8
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if Samsung did this on purpose to see how many, if any would cry and be upset by removal of the IR Blaster. And develop the S8 according to the results.
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I've found the next best thing... Have you looked into Harmony Hub? It is a little wifi device with an IR blaster that integrates into your TV environment. It works great for me, and I can use it no matter which phone I pick in the future since it is just an app at that point and doesn't need any special hardware other than wifi.
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yes, i have that. Love it.
You can encrypt the SD card so it will only work on the S7 (atleast I could on my S7 Edge). I hate the way the SD is used right now and I am with you on enabling Adoptable Storage in a dev option or lab setting somewhere.
You have to understand the MASSIVE performance penalty you get by writing on the SD card (SD card is maybe x10 slower than the internal storage). If you enable the adopted storage feature on the 2015 Moto X pure for instance, it will have unintended consequences, like inability to record video at 1080p, or a lot of UI lags and stutters and overall sh1t UI experience.
I personally do not think this is a smart feature, I do use my internal storage and SD card differently, I need to know where I am writing to.
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You have to understand the MASSIVE performance penalty you get by writing on the SD card (SD card is maybe x10 slower than the internal storage). If you enable the adopted storage feature on the 2015 Moto X pure for instance, it will have unintended consequences, like inability to record video at 1080p, or a lot of UI lags and stutters and overall sh1t UI experience.
I personally do not think this is a smart feature, I do use my internal storage and SD card differently, I need to know where I am writing to.
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That depends on the SD card. The only source I saw quoting that 10x performance penalty in connection with adoptable storage was referring to Class 2 or 4 cards which guarantee a minimum of 2MB/s or 4MB/s. Also, those classes refer to the minimum guaranteed write speed. Most cards write much faster in general, but they must be able to guarantee a minimum write speed sustained under all conditions and so their class speed is a conservative figure and isn't necessarily descriptive of their average performance.
The internal storage on the S7 Edge is around 280MB/s read and 99MB/s write. Many UHS-I cards are rated for 95/90MB/s(r/w) which is close on the writes, but still lags a bit on the reads. In my benchmarks I have a UHS-I U3 card rated at 95/90(r/w) that benches at 90/80(r/w) in a computer, but only 60/40(r/w) in the S7 Edge micro SD slot, so the SD slot may be the limiting factor here and the ratio might be more like 2.5x performance difference on writes. A few forum members have some UHS-II cards on order to test when they get the phones, but many sources are saying that the phones only support UHS-I which means the maximum performance on either reading or writing will be less than 100MB/s - possibly on par with the internal memory for writing, but still close to 3x slower on reads.
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(...)The internal storage on the S7 Edge is around 280MB/s read and 99MB/s write. (...) In my benchmarks I have a UHS-I U3 card rated at 95/90 that benches at 90/80 in a computer, but only 60/40 in the S7 Edge micro SD slot
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You own numbers show a x7 factor slower for the SD card.
When I test my Note 5 internal memory (still not have my S7 Edge yet) I have 340MB/s read and 150MB/s write. (8.5x factor)
I stand by my assessment, that even with the fastest micro SD card you can buy, there is MASSIVE speed difference between the 2 different storage type, creating some UI issues when the OS finds itself writing your launcher cache on the SD card...
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You own numbers show a x7 factor slower for the SD card.
When I test my Note 5 internal memory (still not have my S7 Edge yet) I have 340MB/s read and 150MB/s write. (8.5x factor)
I stand by my assessment, that even with the fastest micro SD card you can buy, there is MASSIVE speed difference between the 2 different storage type, creating some UI issues when the OS finds itself writing your launcher cache on the SD card...
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Oh, I agree that there is a big jump in performance with the internal storage of these phones, but you don't need to fabricate numbers to prove this (or write in ALL CAPS).
Which numbers show a 7x factor? Or even an 8.5x factor? Are you comparing read speeds to write speeds?
280 vs 60 is less than 5x for read.
99 vs 40 is around 2.5x for writes.
340 vs 60 is under 6x.
150 vs 40 is under 4x.
Where is the 7x? Or the 8.5x?
Granted, 2.5x for writes and 5x for reads on my S7 are still a big step, but you don't need to bias the argument by looking for the biggest number in a page of orange numbers and comparing it to the smallest number in a page of apple numbers.
Also, which benchmark are you using? It's starting to look like the A1 SD benchmark is hitting RAM cache that biases the results (and it even warns about this when you run the benchmark.)
Switching to Androbench gets new numbers that are a bit closer to what is being reported for the Note 5:
Using 64MB test files:
S7 Edge internal: 426/128 sequential read/write
Samsung Pro+ microSD: 80/66 seq r/w
Bumping it to 512MB test files to make sure the measurements aren't dominated by RAM caches:
S7 Edge internal: 427/153 seq r/w
Samsung Pro+ microSD: 80/70 seq r/w
Compare that to 92/83 for the Pro+ on a laptop SD card reader.
So we sit around a little over 5x slower on reads and around 2x slower on writes for these UHS-I U3 cards spec'd at 95/90 read/write.
Already found a way to enable adoptable storage without root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65612993&postcount=41
Before you come down hard on Samsung let me post to you what Android Police has to say on the issue.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
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There are some weakness of nexus 7
1) lack of a microSD slot;
2) the main camera is only 5M and is not good enough
Both these weakness maybe fixed by hack in hardware?
1) Is it possible add an additional microSD slot in the PCB , not an USB-microSD reader.
2) Is it possible replace the main camera sensor with a better one?
While I would concede that anything is possible given enough time/money/expertise, my guess would be unless you are a hardware/firmware/software god, the answer would be "no" to both.
Thing is that
1. Not needed
2. You look ridiculous taking pictures with a tablet, it's an unneeded feature
3. Too much effort for no real benefit
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There are some weakness of nexus 7
1) lack of a microSD slot;
2) the main camera is only 5M and is not good enough
Both these weakness maybe fixed by hack in hardware?
1) Is it possible add an additional microSD slot in the PCB , not an USB-microSD reader.
2) Is it possible replace the main camera sensor with a better one?
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I took apart my broken Nexus 7 (2013) wifi. The camera module is under the motherboard. After removing all the screws and stuff, the camera is the one thing that hangs - holding down the motherboard. It is a small square module that fits in a square hole in the frame. There is 2 sided adhesive on the camera module face which holds the camera in the hole. You have to carefully pry out the camera if you disassemble the tablet. I mention it because there was nothing in the how-to video I watched.
It should be possible to insert a replacement. However, I am unsure how the camera software works. There might be firmware or other settings in the OS configured to one specific camera module.
Good luck.
they are not weaknesses. We all knew there would be no SD slot, and we all knew the resolution of the camera.
IMO, two weaknesses are, and this does not make the device any less great, are the lack of flash and the multi colored led. No, i dont take pics with my tablet, but i do scan documents and checks. The colored led would also be nice to have, but is not a deal breaker. I still love this tablet and it is the best device i have ever owned.
The lack of a MIcroSD slot doesn't bother me, because I stream all my content locally through FTP. I have the 32GB model, so if I'm travelling somewhere, 32GB is way more than enough.
And, as z0phi3l said, you look absolutely ridiculous taking pictures with a tablet.
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The lack of a MIcroSD slot doesn't bother me, because I stream all my content locally through FTP. I have the 32GB model, so if I'm travelling somewhere, 32GB is way more than enough.
And, as z0phi3l said, you look absolutely ridiculous taking pictures with a tablet.
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My wife and I recently did a trip through Mt Rushmore, Devil's Tower, and other spots in S Dakota, Wyoming, & Montana. I was amazed at the number of people I saw taking pics/videos with full-size 10" tablets - bizarre looking to say the least. Weirdest though was the guy holding up his iPhone camera to a binoculars eyepiece, filming a video, all the while adding audio commentary at the same time. Something made me wish for a buffalo stampede right then ...
In lieu of a microSD, if I want more storage I use an OTG cable, thumb drive(s), and Nexus Media Importer.
I agree, the camera on this device is pathetic. It should definitely be improved. You could take an okay shot in really good lighting but that's about it. In most cases it's so bad that it's not worth it.
Lol @ people saying a camera isn't need and it's stupid to take pictures with a tablet.
I don't feel the lack of SD card is a flaw in the device because keep in mind what you're paying.
I believe Nexus devices emphasize the use of cloud services of that's why they don't come with SD card slots.
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I agree, the camera on this device is pathetic. It should definitely be improved. You could take an okay shot in really good lighting but that's about it. In most cases it's so bad that it's not worth it.
Lol @ people saying a camera isn't need and it's stupid to take pictures with a tablet.
I don't feel the lack of SD card is a flaw in the device because keep in mind what you're paying.
I believe Nexus devices emphasize the use of cloud services of that's why they don't come with SD card slots.
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The fact that a lot of people *here* are saying they don't need something doesn't actually negate the fact that the device would be more useful with a better camera. And there's a bit of a chicken and egg thing going on. The N7 is quite compact and having a better camera might actually encourage people to take pix with it.
That being said - the sad reality is that ALL tablet cameras suck as do most cellphone cameras. Nonetheless, clearly - a LOT of people do use the camera since Google was compelled to add it back in after removing is in the Nexus 7 2012.
As for the missing SD.. if it's cost, then why do other Android tablets much cheaper than the Nexus 7 have SD slots?
Google has actually answered the question of why there's no SD slot.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-SD-Card-Nexus-Smartphone,18841.html
"Google has explained that Nexus devices only offer fixed storage as the company wants to avoid "techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing"." They also say that having the SD card causes the experience to be confusing since users have two devices instead of one - and that apps don't seamlessly use both.
The former is just lame. The reality is that they want you storing things on their servers and not on your tablet. Not everyone wants to put their stuff on the cloud. "But you already do..." Yes, for small stuff. But my music collection isn't going up there - that would not only be expensive - but considering my cell data plan has a cap (and one of the biggest caps available here), playing music through my cell connection would cost a fortune. Movies would be way worse.
Blaming programmers for not providing a more seamless experience with an external card is passing the buck. It's Google's fault for not building that into the OS. Expecting the developers to do this ensures a horribly inconsistent experience. Since the underlying OS is Linux, there are mechanisms there to merge two mount points into one. That being said - I've never had a significant problem with having an external card., but again, treating the internal storage as a fake SD card is the real source of confusion. When you insert a new SD card - you get the internal one showing up as 'sdcard' and the new one as a different name. Just calling the internal storage "Internal" and the external "External" would fix most of that.
I do think it is possible replace some components in the tablet, because some components share the same hardware/software interface.
For example, image sensor may use a CSI interface. And most embedded processor should have a SD/MMC interface integrated.
If google add a microSD slot to the nexus 7(16GB version) , no one will buy a 32G version for additional $40.
Srioysly, you want a better camera, a misrosd slot and an integrated coffe maker with just 250$?
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Srioysly, you want a better camera, a misrosd slot and an integrated coffe maker with just 250$?
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http://pomegranatephone.com/
LMAO! Pomegrantephone is awesome!
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http://pomegranatephone.com/
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lmao. BUT BUT BUT it's not a POM TABLET :/
Seriously? I'm amazed by all the serious responses to this kind of thread.
I have the 32 gig model and I still have 9 gig left. I have tons of huge games and huge ones like mw4, mw3 etc.. I have about 20 videos, 15 email accounts and ton's of data. If and when I fill I will use Google drive. So need for the extra cost of an SD slot.
I have taken 2 or 3 pictures just to test the cam, I use my phone or my digital camera for serious photos. I would be happy of they removed the cameras all together or maybe just left the front cam for voice chat.
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The fact that"system memory* takes up 6GB when you first get the tablet is ridiculous. A 16GB tablet and you're already down to 10 straight out of the box.
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The fact that"system memory* takes up 6GB when you first get the tablet is ridiculous. A 16GB tablet and you're already down to 10 straight out of the box.
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That's par for the course with JB + bloat that mfg's install these days. At least you can throw in a 64GB (possibly even the 128GB) microSD card and have plenty of storage for media and extra apps. Not sure if you flash one of the debloated/deodexed ROM's if you free up a lot more space in the 16GB memory?
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That's par for the course with JB + bloat that mfg's install these days. At least you can throw in a 64GB (possibly even the 128GB) microSD card and have plenty of storage for media and extra apps. Not sure if you flash one of the debloated/deodexed ROM's if you free up a lot more space in the 16GB memory?
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Agreed, it is pretty common. The bloat is not nearly as bad as thought, plus I think LG's apps are quite nice.
Video player - Certainly one of the best stock players I have seen, allowing many video formats, though I still use BS Player.
QRemote - is hands down the best of its kind.
Qtranslator - is a very impressive tool IMHO. You point the camera at a sign or text, it scans it, and will translate it into any language of your choice.
QVoice - the voice-activated personal assistant is fascinating though imperfect. Still, it understands commands such as "Wake me in 40 minutes", and will automatically set the alarm to ring for you. Of all the LG apps, it is the heaviest, requiring three files totaling roughly 150MB. Understandable nonetheless.
Video editor - Very practical, and very efficient.
LG weather widget - Frankly, I think this is the best weather/clock widget I have seen on any phone/tablet, better than HTC, Samsung or other. Not only is it very attractive with high resolution graphics, but if you go to landscape it instantly changes shape to show several days forecast. With the lock screen on, it will display the weather on your screen. For example, if it is raining, it will look like it is raining on the screen. A cool effect.
The other apps are quite standard, such as music player, memo, notebook, and a few others.
No doubt this all adds up, but not GB worth, and people would be far more critical of LG if new buyers found themselves missing these basic features. Still, if you hate this, feel free to go for one of the CyanogenMod ROMS, or the stock-modified LRS.
Well see I have the Verizon variant and there is still not a root for it yet. I have a 32GB SD card in it now but I would like to have more system memory too.
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Well see I have the Verizon variant and there is still not a root for it yet. I have a 32GB SD card in it now but I would like to have more system memory too.
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Why? What difference does it make whether it is System memory or external?
Because the more stuff that's on the internal memory the slower the tablet will perform? That's kind of a proven fact.
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Because the more stuff that's on the internal memory the slower the tablet will perform? That's kind of a proven fact.
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I would kind of like to see that proof.
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I would kind of like to see that proof.
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So would I.
Seriously? You guys don't believe that if you have 10MB free of internal memory that the tablet or phone will perform slower? That's not a thought that's ever crossed your mind?
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Seriously? You guys don't believe that if you have 10GB free of internal memory that the tablet or phone will perform slower? That's not a thought that's ever crossed your mind?
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Why would it cross our minds? You are completely wrong.
You're right
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You're right
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In any case, consider the situation of owners of tablets such as the Nexus 7 or an iPad Mini who have no easy option to upgrade the storage space, since these do not accept microSD cards. IMO they are the ones who should be heading this thread.
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Well see I have the Verizon variant and there is still not a root for it yet. I have a 32GB SD card in it now but I would like to have more system memory too.
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There is root via kingo, just not recovery.
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Seriously? You guys don't believe that if you have 10MB free of internal memory that the tablet or phone will perform slower? That's not a thought that's ever crossed your mind?
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Limited Free space on the storage part of an android device typically only causes a performance impact if trim is not working on the device and therefore the remaining free space gets fragmented badly (typically no longer an issue), or if cache files can then not get created by the software that is trying to cache. This statement is assuming that the additional carrier bloatware can be disabled from always running in the background and hey, you are reading this on XDA which means we can typically root the device and use Titanium Backup (or similar tools) to freeze the bloat that wants to run in the background. Just having less storage space on a storage device which isn't fragmented and is using a modern file system which has sufficient remaining space for caching should have no impact on performance in practice...
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There is root via kingo, just not recovery.
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I am unable to get kingo to work on VK810, will not even recognize that my device is connected.
I am beyond frustrated trying to root this tablet. Any help would be appreciated. It also doesn't appear to be a driver related issue, as I've tried all drivers that other have recommended and worked for them.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the latest models of Android AIO's?
Personally I'm falling in love with the ideer of having a huge android on the angled table in front of me.
Many of them also doubles as an external touch screen for a pc with easy switching between function modes.
The one I look to buy is an acer DA223hql from amazon.de.
It's a bit pricey, and only has one gig of ram, but the size seems good for my reach and I like the 1080p resolution.
No argument that higher resolution is better like the acer TA272HUL's 2K or Lenovo ThinkVision 28's 4K, but those are both out of my price range and to big for for comfortable use.
The DA223hql seems to be the best compromise so far.
In my searches I stumbled upon a maintenance manual on Lenovos website which shows how to disassemble and replace the ram and hard drive on the Lenovo N308, and the components look like regular pc parts which makes me druel of the thought of a cheap Tegra 4 device backed by 4 gigs of ram and 1 - 1.5 TB of built in storage.
But the N308 is a 1600x900 TN panel with IR dual touch, and rumor has it that third party file explorers can't access the hard drive.
So I'm not sure i could live with those limitations.
I've not yet been able to find any reviews on the DA223hql and it seems to only be on sale in Germany so far, but several times my fingers have clicked the "add to cart" button.
I've just not been able to click "proceed to checkout" yet.
Please, someone give me some insight into these AIO's.
I trust android to be right for me in this category.
I trust that 18-22 inches is a good size if placed correctly.
I don't have much trouble living with android 4.1 or 4.2
I can manage to live with one gig of ram, though more would definitely be nicer.
lindarne said:
Does anyone have any thoughts on the latest models of Android AIO's?
Personally I'm falling in love with the ideer of having a huge android on the angled table in front of me.
Many of them also doubles as an external touch screen for a pc with easy switching between function modes.
The one I look to buy is an acer DA223hql from amazon.de.
It's a bit pricey, and only has one gig of ram, but the size seems good for my reach and I like the 1080p resolution.
No argument that higher resolution is better like the acer TA272HUL's 2K or Lenovo ThinkVision 28's 4K, but those are both out of my price range and to big for for comfortable use.
The DA223hql seems to be the best compromise so far.
In my searches I stumbled upon a maintenance manual on Lenovos website which shows how to disassemble and replace the ram and hard drive on the Lenovo N308, and the components look like regular pc parts which makes me druel of the thought of a cheap Tegra 4 device backed by 4 gigs of ram and 1 - 1.5 TB of built in storage.
But the N308 is a 1600x900 TN panel with IR dual touch, and rumor has it that third party file explorers can't access the hard drive.
So I'm not sure i could live with those limitations.
I've not yet been able to find any reviews on the DA223hql and it seems to only be on sale in Germany so far, but several times my fingers have clicked the "add to cart" button.
I've just not been able to click "proceed to checkout" yet.
Please, someone give me some insight into these AIO's.
I trust android to be right for me in this category.
I trust that 18-22 inches is a good size if placed correctly.
I don't have much trouble living with android 4.1 or 4.2
I can manage to live with one gig of ram, though more would definitely be nicer.
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don't have much input, but they are tempting me too. I may be wrong but I think android is currently maxed out at 2gb of ram and cannot handle any more. If you get one lemme know what you think, I am hoping it would be better than a chromebook experience.
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Just ordered an acer DA223hql
As far as I know android is based off of a 32 bit Linux system and is able to address up to 4gb ram.
probably 5.0 will be 64 bit which should allow ram in the terabyte range, not that I think anyone would need more than 2-3 gigs for a long time.
My Note 3 has 3 gigs, the LG G3 comes in a model with 2 gigs, and one with 3 gigs.
The Acer I've ordered has only one gig, which in my experience means I'll need to manage how much I'll have open at once.
A bit annoying but what's a guy to do.
With a little luck the ram will be replaceable.
Apart from that, the snapdragon 600 should be plenty fine for running a mostly stock android.
Unless of course the software is poorly optimized.
Not much hardware in the world can save you from poor software.
That's the scary part of being an early adopter.
At least it's not Acer's first attempt at this, so they have a little experience.
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Just ordered an acer DA223hql
As far as I know android is based off of a 32 bit Linux system and is able to address up to 4gb ram.
probably 5.0 will be 64 bit which should allow ram in the terabyte range, not that I think anyone would need more than 2-3 gigs for a long time.
My Note 3 has 3 gigs, the LG G3 comes in a model with 2 gigs, and one with 3 gigs.
The Acer I've ordered has only one gig, which in my experience means I'll need to manage how much I'll have open at once.
A bit annoying but what's a guy to do.
With a little luck the ram will be replaceable.
Apart from that, the snapdragon 600 should be plenty fine for running a mostly stock android.
Unless of course the software is poorly optimized.
Not much hardware in the world can save you from poor software.
That's the scary part of being an early adopter.
At least it's not Acer's first attempt at this, so they have a little experience.
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4 gb would make sense since it is just a 32 bit linux after all. Not sure where, but I read the 2gb thing somewhere previously. I had heard that most of those aios also used standard ddr3 so my guess is that it should not hurt to try. With the extra hdd thing, I'm sure the problem could be solved via software. Most apps on a stock kit kat build cannot write to the ext sdcard, might be the same problem you heard about regarding the added hdd.
Anyway lemme know when it comes in, if you have root and an unlocked bootloader I will most likely order one too.
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It'll unfortunately take a few weeks to get here.
I'm Danish but live in Cyprus.
Sadly Amazon.de wouldn't ship it to me down here, so I had to order it to my dad's address in Denmark and then when it arrives there he'll forward it here.
Sucky way but at least I'll get the one I want.
As for the limited access to the hard drive in the Lenovo model, I have no idea.
It runs 4.2 JB so it can't be the kitkat thing.
Did you get it?
I was thinking about doing similar but ended up getting tab pro 12.2.
Got it, yes
And have been playing around with it for a few days.
Here's the quick and dirty of it.
First of all the screen, as nothing about it is as prevalent when dealing with a 22 inch tablet.
It's bright and with excellent viewing angles.
Resolution is a bit on the low side considering I watch it from about a foot and a half away.
The snapdragon 600 happily chugs along on a nearly vanilla built of Android.
There is a tiny bit of lag here and there, but I chug that up more to the single gig of ram.
An interesting little side note is that the screen Wakes up when touched, so no need to fumble the side for the on-off button.
The 16 gigs of built in storage fills up quickly so an SD card is definitely a must.
As the port is a full size SD you have the opportunity for cheap and really fast cards.
I have my eyes on a 128 gig, so I can get my 64 gig micro back in my phone.
Another way to do it is to mount a USB drive, but that option is better as a secondary.
It easily reads both exFat and ntfs, so no problems with my old 750 gig USB drive.
Another side note: a big USB drive will be good for videos.
Remember that I said that I sit close to the screen?
Well the negative side of that is that ANY lack of quality in my movies show up like sitting a few yards from a nuke.
I'll need to upgrade much of my media to 1080 versions with a good bit rate. Wich incidentally means I'll need more storage.
The problems of the developing world, right?
But playing a high quality movie right in my face is awesome though.
The speakers are OK, and more than enough at my distance.
For acting as a music system I have it connected to a Phillips Bluetooth speaker, which works fine.
The biggest problem with audio is watching movies with 5.1 on stereo speakers.
You turn up the audio to hear what they are saying, only to wake up the whole house as soon as any action starts.
Maybe someone can suggest a cheap and compact surround soundbar? I don't have room for a full speaker system.
Or would a small 5.1 amp with just the 3 front speakers connected be enough?
Mostly I just need the center channel so I can hear the dialog.
Unless it gets updated to "L" it's options for audio out is pretty much limited to a mini jack.
That's as much as I have time for now.
Later I hope to get into the issues of multi tasking like floating apps and the likes.
Bonus: towelroot worked flawlessly on this one. Full root privileges, but don't forget to install superuser yourself.
towelroot
Hi
I got mind yesterday too and I agree with your statement.
It is a valid device...but when you say
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Bonus: towelroot worked flawlessly on this one. Full root privileges, but don't forget to install superuser yourself.
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I would like to agree too, but for me towelroot does not work.
Can you help? I rooted many devices so far but I can not came up with this one....
Thanks in advance
silvio76
silvio76 said:
Hi
I got mind yesterday too and I agree with your statement.
It is a valid device...but when you say
I would like to agree too, but for me towelroot does not work.
Can you help? I rooted many devices so far but I can not came up with this one....
Thanks in advance
silvio76
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Should not be complicated. I hope...
I installed this apk: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2h75gcp8y1r6us/TowelRoot.apk
Ran it once.
It rebooted my system.
I installed supersu, and updated the binary.
And it was done.
Have not posted a link here before, so if there is any problems pm me and I'll mail you the link or file.
I'm not next to my acer right now, so if you need to know it's firmware version I'll have to check it later.
But start with the towelroot I used.
Hope it helps.
Regards, Arne
hi
I will give it a try thanks.
Be advised 128 GB SD card is not supported....
Keep in touch
Silvio76
EDIT it works with towelroot v1, I was using v3.....
Thanks again....
No problem.
Did you try a 128 card?
Often when they write the card size limit is to avoid customers calling them and asking the where to get a "1 terabyte card" that the written specs say would work.
But it is a micro SD-XC port and unless Acer screwed something up or set a deliberate limit, the SD-XC standard reaches all the way to 4 TB, though I doubt that we'd find such any time soon.
Hi
Yes
tried a brand new Kingston 128 gb , no luck ,
formatted with a Windows pc , no luck,
partioned at 64 GB, then formatted and it works...
May be it is my card....but is strange....
Scary news.
Did you try to format it from an Android device?
When I first bought a 64 card for my original Note I had to format it in the phone before it would read it.
But I also saw a guy Frankenstein'ing his Note 2 to run a 256 GB card, and that one is rated for 64 gig max...
Of course to connect a full sized SD to a phone you need a special adapter.
Hi
I tried from the Acer Da223hql at first but formatting was an endless process....it took about 20 minutes before I surrended...and switched to Win8 for the format operation. But then the card was not readable for the Acer....so I went for the partitioning.
I suspect that 64gb is the maximum allowed on this machine...
If you want more details here I am...
Silvio76
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I also use this device as an external touchscreen monitor for a win8 laptop and it is great...
works without a glitch....
On the Android side I installed Floating apps and Floating Browser, so I take advantage of the large screen...
Try it
And the hits just keep on coming.
Dared to take it apart today (pretty scary), and it turned out that the ram is not replaceable.
Live with the gig you have.
Ah well, it was a good dream though, 4 gigs...
Have mounted a 3tb USB drive though, with no trouble what so ever.
And I connected my laptop to the hdmi for the first time.
It works but has some weird behavior.
The picture shrunken but the touch sensor works correctly, so the further from the center I touch the more offset it registres.
Both my acer and my laptop run at 1080p, and I set it to mirroring.
The laptop days it's sending 1080p at 60 hz and the Acer says the received signal is 1080/60 so I don't see the problem.
The Acers settings screen does have a section marked by a square with arrows going out. But it ain't selectable.
Haven't seen manual resizing since crt and analog monitors anyway.
Any ideas?
Hi
you are very brave trying to open it!
As far as I know these devices (based on Qualcomm Snapdragon) have integrated/soldered RAM, so I never thought to check it by myself.
By the way 1Gb is plenty in my opinion, then it depends what kind of application you have in mind (photo editing and such can be memory killer)
As external touch monitor it worked fine for me. I have a 2in1 Asus Transformer Book Win8 based and I use the extended desktop mode.
The Acer was immediately recognized as a monitor and touch input device. No issue with screen resolution and/or its alignement.
Would you like to try that setup and see if works well? If no may be is your Acer that does not work properly.
I did not touch any setting on the OSD menu.
Furthermore I installed Xposed frameworks+XHalo floating windows manager and now I have a Windows-like multitasking.....check it, it's worth the test. Several windows at the same time (Chrome, terminal emulator, Youtube) and no lag.....unbelivable.
Looking for your comments
silvio76
Thanks on the bravery comment
Just sad it was fruitless.
I feel limits when moving my big files around in the background , and think more ram would have eliminated that.
But I'll live with it.
My laptop is an Asus u38n (the ultrabook with an AMD instead of Intel).
It connects fine to our TV without the weird scaling.
I guess I'll try sending Acer a mail and see if they have some advice.
I've only just started experimenting with the multi window funktions.
Juggling 50 hour work week with being a husband and father sometimes means that things move slower than I'd like.
But even without multi window I am pretty happy with it.
I knew from my wife's old gPad that the snapdragon 600 is no slouch.
Do you know a popup client for hangouts that works the way chatheads for Facebook messenger works?
I don't use Facebook much but love that concept.
Just haven't found a hangouts client that does it that elegant.
Hi
Being an husband and a father myself I fully understand
Concerning labour hours, my yesterday working day ended after 14 hours, so......I'm done! But we are lucky to have a job nowadays.
Back on topic I'm not a Facebook user, neither my wife, therefore the only app I can suggest, which can have similar functionality, is Lilypad Hd.
You can find it on Playstore. Hope it will suit your need!
Cheers
Silvio76
Interesting little tid bit.
I needed to empty out my 64GB micro SD and chose to format it in my note 3 (running stock).
After formatting the acer told me that it was faulty and offered to format it.
I chose yes and like yours it just stood there for half an hour with no result.
So I put it in my laptop and formatted it from there ending up with the same "faulty" message.
So finally I put used my original gNote (running CM11) now there is no problems.
somehow, somewhere, there is a difference in the way different devices do it
lindarne said:
Interesting little tid bit.
I needed to empty out my 64GB micro SD and chose to format it in my note 3 (running stock).
After formatting the acer told me that it was faulty and offered to format it.
I chose yes and like yours it just stood there for half an hour with no result.
So I put it in my laptop and formatted it from there ending up with the same "faulty" message.
So finally I put used my original gNote (running CM11) now there is no problems.
somehow, somewhere, there is a difference in the way different devices do it
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Hi in my experience Samsung Android devices have "bad" attitude in respect of vanilla Android.
They probably have some changes in the code which are not limited to the interface (TouchWiz), resulting in incompatibilities.
This is the Android fragmentation people often blame.
However when I formatted the SD card in my laptop, the Acer accepted it without assle.
I would try again formatting the SD with the PC and see if this happen again....sometimes magic happens
silvio79
Lets talk about the MicroSD first
Like everyone I love to have a phone with MicroSD feature. It makes it easier to swap between my phones as well as to transfer data to my PC. I myself won't mind spending lots of money on a fast microSD card but I have yet to find one that is both FAST and LARGE in capacity. On my Note 4, i'm using Sandisk Extreme and my fastest bench mark test was 70mb Read and 39 Write. Now these numbers are decent but In my opinion MicroSD cards are not keeping up with the speed of phones these days which is cause bottleneck issue and is one of the reasons behind all the lag that people complain about.
Now with the Universal Flash Storage (UFS) 2.0 which has 350Mb/s Read and 150Mb/s, you can rest assure it will not cause any lag from viewing pictures and videos as well as swapping from app to app. Not to mention you can always plug in your OTG cable with flash usb and do all your backups there titanium backup or simply copying your data there which is what i'm doing currently.
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Samsung has ultra fast 128GB UFS 2.0 ready for smartphones
As for the Battery,
While having a removable battery is a plus, from my personal experience I have yet to use it when I want too. I have extra battery and charger for my Note 4 but i always find my self plugging it in rather than taking the cover off and restart my phone. Now with all the new features to charge wirelessily and fastcharge 2.0, I don't think anyone would have any issue. Iphone users as well as other brands from nexus 5,6 and htc didn't complain about their battery then why should we when are ahead of the game in many ways?
With all the features we are getting on the GS6, I think i can easily sacrifice on these too.
I generally agree with you. But after 8 months or so my phone batteries are noticeably less able to hold a charge as much. My note 3 (loved that phone) went from 8-9 hours screen on time to not even 6 hours. Big difference. Changed the bettery and back to normal. This is what I want to be able to do especially if I keep the phone 2 years!
Most people are complaining about choice being taken away
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I generally agree with you. But after 8 months or so my phone batteries are noticeably less able to hold a charge as much. My note 3 (loved that phone) went from 8-9 hours screen on time to not even 6 hours. Big difference. Changed the bettery and back to normal. This is what I want to be able to do especially if I keep the phone 2 years!
Most people are complaining about choice being taken away
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Most batteries have a life cycle of 500 charges. But then having non removable back doesn't mean the battery is not replaceable. You can always heat up the back with air dryer and pull the back off and i'm sure you will see many people doing a tutorial on that but we have to wait and see if it easy to do so or hard.
There's just no good reason to remove microSD support and no real argument to support the decision. Literally every reason you mentioned for supporting the decision could have been done without microSD support being removed. It's that simple. Use of microSD was an -option- that nobody would have been forced to use. Removal of options is rarely a good thing, and this isn't one of those rare exceptions.
Lack of a removable battery has only two good sides in most any situation, and one of them was left out of the picture here. Non-removable battery brings two benefits, and two benefits only.
1. Unibody design (Usually means slimmer, which at this point, it's highly debatable whether or not that's even a good thing)
2. Waterproofing (Omitted)
Personally, the 128GB of (hopefully) UFS will be enough for me and I STILL disagree with the decision. Why? Again, removal of options is rarely a good thing, and this isn't one of those cases. I can take or leave the removable battery. Simple fact of the matter is that I havn't had nor used a device where I couldn't change the battery when I felt like it regardless of whether or not it being removable was part of a spec sheet or not. With that said, I'm not a daily battery swapper, so I certainly see why people are concerned there.
Regardless, what should have happened is that there should have been a 128GB UFS option WITH support for a microSD utilizing up to 128GBs, period. I suspect that their reasoning (other than the obvious incredibly mild cost savings) will be for the sake of trying to do the impossible and "fix stupid." By fixing stupid, I mean you'll always have people who won't be able to comprehend that all flash storage isn't just any ole flash storage, and will whine and complain that their $10 Wal-mart microSD isn't as fast as the on-board storage. Which will lead to them saying the device is slow when in actuality they're just too "slow" to realize what the issue is. While I understand the concept thanks to my personal field of expertise, I've already realized the truth in that matter:
When you try to fix stupid, you piss off smart, and stupid stays stupid; just in some other manner of being stupid.
And of course there's the greed aspect; wherein all of a sudden, a would-be 32GB buyer becomes a 64GB buyer and a 64GB buyer becomes a 128GB buyer due to the lack of a microSD slot.
For how I use my SD cards (and it seems that I'm far from alone in this), the speed makes no real difference at all. I keep my cards loaded up with my most commonly used FLAC files and rarely make any changes to them. On my S4 I see no difference in opening music or video files compared to the internal storage. Copying new files to the phone via USB is certainly slower on SD, but that's the only situation where the speed difference is even noticeable.
For the OS and apps, the built-in storage speed is the only way to fly, but having more onboard storage is always better for me, even if it's relatively slow SD added to 128GB of super fast UFS. I've used OTG and it's completely annoying and clunky having wires & USB drives hanging off the phone, and the OTG route isn't nearly as compact as carrying an extra MicroSD card (or three).
Battery is less of an issue for me in everyday use, but I travel a lot for work and having spare internal batteries means I can sit in airports and on planes without having to have an external device hanging off of my phone to keep it running. What if you are running low on battery AND the files you need are on OTG? I don't think you can do both at the same time, something that would never be a problem on a phone with SD and removable battery.
As I mentioned in another tread, I don't think the battery issue is a big deal any more just because those portable battery chargers are cheaper than an extra battery. I just put the phone in my pocket with one of those and I am charged up in no time. I haven't bought a spare battery since my SGS3 for this reason.
As far as the SD card does though, I HATE that it's gone. It's not even a space issue, it's a functionality issue. I think 64gig is more than enough for me. I haven't filled up my 64gig card. However, when I go from one phone to another, I just put my microsd card in and I'm done. If my phone breaks, gets wet, doesn't turn on any more... I didn't lose anything, my titanium backup is on my SD card, I pull that out and put it into my replacement phone, and I'm good to go.
The process now to get a new phone up and running is now much harder and the risk of losing everything if your phone breaks is much higher. Yes, yes... there is a cloud. But without unlimited data, I don't want to back up to my cloud... plus I don't want my pictures being uploaded to the cloud anyway.
Yathani said:
Lets talk about the MicroSD first
Like everyone I love to have a phone with MicroSD feature. It makes it easier to swap between my phones as well as to transfer data to my PC. I myself won't mind spending lots of money on a fast microSD card but I have yet to find one that is both FAST and LARGE in capacity. On my Note 4, i'm using Sandisk Extreme and my fastest bench mark test was 70mb Read and 39 Write. Now these numbers are decent but In my opinion MicroSD cards are not keeping up with the speed of phones these days which is cause bottleneck issue and is one of the reasons behind all the lag that people complain about.
Now with the Universal Flash Storage (UFS) 2.0 which has 350Mb/s Read and 150Mb/s, you can rest assure it will not cause any lag from viewing pictures and videos as well as swapping from app to app. Not to mention you can always plug in your OTG cable with flash usb and do all your backups there titanium backup or simply copying your data there which is what i'm doing currently.
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The entire basis for your argument is stupid.
External cards are mostly used for storing media files where speed is not a concern
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The entire basis for your argument is stupid.
External cards are mostly used for storing media files where speed is not a concern
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And your entire reply basis is ignorant and does not show respect to other opinion.
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And your entire reply basis is ignorant and does not show respect to other opinion.
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No **** Sherlock!!
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And your entire reply basis is ignorant and does not show respect to other opinion.
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You are entitled to your opinion for sure but you are certainly not entitled to respect for that opinion...your arguments are without merit and though I wouldn't call them stupid simply out of politeness I am sure others would not be as polite.....
Fact is they could have kept the microsd and ufs.
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My Samsung Galaxy Nexus runs the sane nearly 3 1/2 years later, in terms of the battery, as it did on day 1. I've never had to replace the battery, and in my opinion, the whole "batteries degrade in less than a year" argument is a sham.
Also, let's face reality, the average consumer isn't a techno nerd on a phone forum or a tech blogger. The average person looks at the phones in their local carrier store and picks what they like (if they aren't already set on an iPhone of course). The S6 stands head and shoulders above the rest in terms of display, design, and the "edge". This phone will sell well, despite not having a removable back or SD card slot. 99% (yes...I made that up) of people out there aren't walking around with a spare battery in their pocket, or trying to carry 10,000 songs, and multi-gig videos on their phones.
If your phone were to suddenly die or break for some reason, good luck retrieving photos, videos, etc. from it. With a MicroSD storage, you can just remove it and be on your way.
I like to store movies and archive photos, videos, etc. and having expandable storage is extremely crucial. Would you buy a PC without a removable PSU or removable hard drives? Didn't think so.
The only logical explanation for Samsung to go this route, regardless of what's been touted in the news, is that they deliberately want a drop in sales and stocks and company image. Then the S7 will bring it back and they'll give the impression of it being a new breathtaking device for the people. Either that, or the S7 will be a flip phone.
I'm a Note user, and if the Note 5 goes this backwards route, then I will never consider Samsung as a brand again.
Well I think they would cut the SD card slot out mostly to save a few bucks and to get people to buy the larger versions of their phone. I do understand that if people move things like apps to their SD card they will miss the whole speed point of the phone. The only think I have ever put on my SD card are pictures and music... maybe a video now and then.... and if that moves any faster the music tempo will be off
I appreciate the fact that their new memory is much faster but people never do well with a feature being taken away.
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Well I think they would cut the SD card slot out mostly to save a few bucks and to get people to buy the larger versions of their phone. I do understand that if people move things like apps to their SD card they will miss the whole speed point of the phone. The only think I have ever put on my SD card are pictures and music... maybe a video now and then.... and if that moves any faster the music tempo will be off
I appreciate the fact that their new memory is much faster but people never do well with a feature being taken away.
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They could have done with a simple warning.
The point of the SD is that you can move all your media to it, leaving the faster internal storage free for apps
I think its more of a personal preference. I used to be a person that was so "pro-removable battery", but when I had my S5, I wasnt even changing my batteries as often. Now that I have a Z3, which has no removable battery, I don't even think about battery because the phone lasts long. I charge my battery every night before I sleep anyways and it lasts me through the day. So long as the S6 does the same I will be happy.
Well said
ThaiM said:
If your phone were to suddenly die or break for some reason, good luck retrieving photos, videos, etc. from it. With a MicroSD storage, you can just remove it and be on your way.
I like to store movies and archive photos, videos, etc. and having expandable storage is extremely crucial. Would you buy a PC without a removable PSU or removable hard drives? Didn't think so.
The only logical explanation for Samsung to go this route, regardless of what's been touted in the news, is that they deliberately want a drop in sales and stocks and company image. Then the S7 will bring it back and they'll give the impression of it being a new breathtaking device for the people. Either that, or the S7 will be a flip phone.
I'm a Note user, and if the Note 5 goes this backwards route, then I will never consider Samsung as a brand again.
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Thats why you back up your stuff...its not wise to keep everything you own on a MicroSD, because it can crash and break just like internal memory can
smooth4lyfe said:
Thats why you back up your stuff...its not wise to keep everything you own on a MicroSD, because it can crash and break just like internal memory can
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You can backup and still have archives on your MicroSD for viewing.
And another instance, if you're on vacation and want to take many videos and photos with your device. You CAN with removable external storage. Backing up onto the cloud during vacations is not practical. Unless you're a millionaire with an endless cashflow for data. Look how much space a single 2 minute 4K video clip takes up. That'll fill up your entire device in no time. And then backing up gigs and gigs of data to the cloud? And then retrieving? Not practical. The cloud is not a compromise.
I am inclined to agree with the OP. The new nand is going to make the phone fly, and will help the phone capture great photos. I'm just finally glad they ditched the 16GB option. That should have disappeared with the S3.
I look forward to the head to head reviews with the M9. If the camera doesn't perform well, I'll most likely get the S6.
ThaiM said:
You can backup and still have archives on your MicroSD for viewing.
And another instance, if you're on vacation and want to take many videos and photos with your device. You CAN with removable external storage. Backing up onto the cloud during vacations is not practical. Unless you're a millionaire with an endless cashflow for data. Look how much space a single 2 minute 4K video clip takes up. That'll fill up your entire device in no time. And then backing up gigs and gigs of data to the cloud? And then retrieving? Not practical. The cloud is not a compromise.
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Do you plan on taking many 4K videos?
I have 60GB of Dropbox free (from a Samsung promotion) and I save all my pics on there, its not that bad. The only con about using cloud storage is safety of files. If you make a Box Cloud account, you get 20GB free. You can also retrieve them anytime (so long as u have a data connection, which could be a con in some cases).
I do agree that having a MicroSD card is more convenient, but I don't see it as a major dealbreaker
As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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Yeah I did this a few years ago when I switched to a phone with no mSD slot, moved all my pictures and videos and **** to cloud storage, now I pay $10 a month and have 1TB of storage space I can put anything I want on. I back up all my photos to the cloud and delete them from my phone once I get a decent number accumulated.
I also have been streaming my music, I dont listen to music a TON, but when I do I generally am only getting 30-60 minutes of listening in, that's not all that much data to stream so it doesn't effect my data usage all that much.
All in all, I felt fine on 32GB of internal storage with no mSD card, 64GB is a breeze.
kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
I was just looking at Wifi Drives on Amazon, looks like they've come a long ways... They actually seem pretty cool.
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sdakidd88 said:
I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
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That cable is pretty cool. I know you can't beat direct storage, that's why I had the 128gb iPhone But honestly, managing that much space via usb sync etc. is kind of a hassle. Maybe the cable adapter is good for batch offloading, but do you really need that much local storage, I think you'd get tired of the extra bulk and the potential hassles of "mounting" the external card, read/write limitations, etc. that go along with all of that.
I got this monster on the go cloud from Sam's club for 10 bucks a few months back, really good deal.
http://www.monsterdigital.com/wireless-streaming/otg-cloud
By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
I would just buy a wifi UsB drive if your looking for something compact. Or just Dropbox it
sdakidd88 said:
By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
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Yeah, that price drop popped up a week or two ago on slickdeals. If you can go up to SD Card, they're a bit cheaper/faster.
If they make this for the Note 5 like they did for the s6 and s6 edge it could solve the battery issue and the sd card problem
http://www.incipio.com/chargers/off...-extended-battery-case-samsung-galaxy-s6.html
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Good grief. The note 5 is big enough as it is. Last thing I would ever do is put a huge battery case on it.
There are always ideas. It's unfortunately that Samsung made that choice (Or maybe the Note Edge 2 supports it and they're trying to encourage people to go for the more expensive Note Edge 2? idk, Just a thought)
Solutions?
As mentioned previously, maybe there might be a case manufacturer that provides the support without the battery so it's lighter (or Samsung could surprise us with the S view case?)
Dual USB drive or NFC SD Card/ FD? sure you have to carry something extra that might get lost and all, but it's quite portable indeed :good:
Get a Note 4, install ported Note 5 ROM and voila!
Buy Cloud Storage or get an unlimited amount of cloud storage's
I'd use the battery /SD case in a minute! I have a note 2 with a 9300 mah zerolemon battery and I love my giant brick. That's why I don't care about design this, pretty that, glass this, feels good in hand that.
I just want my forever lasting brick phone! Whatever phone I get is getting either a zerolemon extended battery or a battery case.
Doesn't matter if the phone is pretty cause I'm never gonna see it!
I don't care because thinking about plugs and chargers something I never want to go back to!
I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
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As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
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I Ihave an S6 and I purchased a micro OTG with 64B of storage - you can get larger ones I think - it connects to the USB and sticks out about a half inch - great for additional storage - I keep nandroids on it and connect it when I want to restore a previous nandroid - you can do a lot with it - not as good as an EXT SD card - but it works pretty well. and it is very small
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I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
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This is the solution. I love it. Fast reliable and very nice ...
Ya, my note 3 has 544GB of storage using a 512GB full size sd card. I used a smaller adapter than the amazon one mentioned above and fit it completely inside my zerolemon case with the extended battery. If you are looking at the back of the phone, it fits just to the right of the camera. No bulge or anything. It looks completely normal.
I bought this from Amazon for my S6 - will be using for extra storage on my NOTE 5 http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-connector-Android-Devices--SDDD2-064G-G46/dp/B00RBGYGPG/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439999149&sr=1-4&keywords=micro+otg
Pretty small - and works well. Best option I found - would love to find one smaller (it is about 3/4 to 1 inch long - and about 1/2 inch wide or so - just guessing about the size but I think it is pretty close to that.
Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Ya, I use one in addition to the sd card on my phone. It's definitely not as fast as a micro sd card would be, but it's usable. I really notice it when browsing directories. If you have anything over say a 100 photos or movies in a folder it takes about 3-4 seconds to load which is kinda annoying. This is my experience with an N router and USB 3.0. I'm doing a SMB share.