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Hi all,
I made this post to enhance your experience with the Z3C. Indeed I thought since a few days that I was going to throw away my phone because of multitasking. This issue is not clear at all and not all people seemed to be touched by this. However I am, definitely.
This is my experience on lollipop: I can’t have 5 apps running at the same time, even if they’re very light. For example if I’m listening to music and using chrome, everytime I switch to another app, it needs to start again. It gets really annoying when I’m using some apps at the same time and I lose lots of time.
My first idea was to switch to another phone (even if I love the Z3C for other qualities like battery life or how compact it is) but this issue seems to touch every phone except HTC’s but I’m not happy with their battery life. My last choice was the iPhone 6 to get a nice user experience.
Then I thought a little and I remembered that in fact my experience was much much better on KitKat.
So I decided to try again kitkat and OMG!!! I couldn’t get back to L, seriously. If you have the same issues as I have, it’s definitely a solution.
So of course you’ll lose some interesting stuff from Lollipop and the interface doesn’t look as nice as on L but it is definitely worth it.
Indeed on Kitkat the battery is at least equal, maybe better.
But all the difference is about performances: you can’t even compare it. When I switched from KK to L I didn’t realize and I got accommodate to it but actually in this way we can feel the difference without any hesitation.
Now I can use at least 8 apps at the same time, everything is snappier and quicker. Really it changes my smartphone life.
So if you’re ready to leave L, join me with KK and you won’t regret. You’ll get a new phone (even it’s kinda absurd) and you’ll never want to change it for another. That’s the phone I have liked.
Thx for the comparison
I haven't tried Lollipop because there is nothing wrong with KitKat (+ROOT!) and there is nothing about Lollipop that I really need, it's mostly just eye-candy imho. Oh yes there is one small thing: The sparkly unlock animation in KK is the worst, haven't found a way to get rid of it yet... (except using a 3rd party lockscreen - which is something I'm not willing to do because I love my lockscreen widgets, any suggestions?)
If you miss the Lollipop stuff here's some suggestions:
-NiLS(app): Gives you customizable lockscreen notifications like Lollipop with any lockscreen
-Nova Launcher(app): Just got a huge Lollipop update, the average person won't know the difference to lollipop when looking at the launcher
-Install Lollipop theme to change nav-bar icons (or use xposed or any other method)
-Sony is pretty amazing with app updates, so all the independent apps like Music are Material Design anyway
Cheers
Well. The problem with multitasking happens on all Xperia Z3 phones with Sony´s Lollipop (Yes, I confirmed it after test with 5 different Xperia Z3 phones from friends and family).
After I get frustrated with this problem, I also think in change the phone for an iPhone, but lol, iPhone have similar problems with browsers that can´t keep various tabs opened and ends refreshing all tabs, and other similar multitasking problems because of limited ram. I maybe change my Z3 for an Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in a month (Or when the Galaxy S6 gets Android 5.1 update) because the camera of the Z3 is very bad in quality for me, but until then, I found a "fix" for the multitasking problem:
I finally "fixed" it. ¿How?: Simple, I just installed Cyanogenmod 12.1 in my phone, and it is just... just, very beatiful in multitasking. I can have a loooot of apps opened and get back to one app after a day and they are still opened, it´s is what I ever expected from a phone like Xperia Z3, is amazing. It is because Cyanogenmod is always updated and have all the latest fixes and their own fixes also. I heard that they have fixed more than 51 memory leaks (included the critical ones) in his 12.1 version. Also I get in love with Cyanogenmod extra features.
Yes, I lose all DRM protected features from camera and also PS4 Remote, but meh, camera sucks anyway in stock firmware, and is only a little worse in Cyanogenmod. Just to be careful I backed up my TA partition before unlock my bootloader and go into cyanogenmod.
Hope this helps to all guys that have lollipop, and need a true multitasking on his Xperia Z3 or Z3 Compact.
Aside from multitasking Lollipop seems still very beta on xperia to me. Mind u I own the Smartphone for only 3 days, but the amount of times it made me go nuts, not even my evo 3d managed over 3 years. Phone ran really hot and sort of slugish on lp, but waht reall drove me crazy was Bluetooth Audio... It made my whole phone crash after starting to crackle on my soundwaver (bluetooth speaker).... It wouldnt even play over pc... Back to kitkst and all is fine and dandy. I can actually feel i run a newer handset than before (evo 3D). Ill probably switch to CM some timecdown the road, when lp is fully working.
The stock lollipop build is beta version at best. The debloated lollipop build found here on XDA is beyond acceptable, almost good. The stock kitkat build, though, still has the upper hand. I reverted back today to an old backup and there's no match between the debloated lollipop and the stock kitkat. Stock kitkat wins hands down.
For some balance ive no such issues with lollipop albeit i agree there isnt much of an incentive to upgrade from kitkat. I dont use chrome though. Chrome uses a scary lot of memory. (i use firefox)
Cm12 uses less memory than stock sony roms so that leaves more to chrome, which explains that i guess.
My only complaint is few UI elements that are not very material, you know.
I don´t use Chrome too, I use Cm Browser that dont use a lot of Ram too...
The problem is not how much Ram uses the system, the problem is that Stock Sony in 5.0.2 have a Bad Memory Management and still have Memory Leaks (Except the crititcal ones that are already fixed in Sony Stock Lollipop Firm).
In CM 12.1 a loot of those memory leaks are already fixed, so that also explains why Cyanogenmod works a lot better with multitasking and can keep a lot of apps without close.
clouds5 said:
Thx for the comparison
I haven't tried Lollipop because there is nothing wrong with KitKat (+ROOT!) and there is nothing about Lollipop that I really need, it's mostly just eye-candy imho. Oh yes there is one small thing: The sparkly unlock animation in KK is the worst, haven't found a way to get rid of it yet... (except using a 3rd party lockscreen - which is something I'm not willing to do because I love my lockscreen widgets, any suggestions?)
If you miss the Lollipop stuff here's some suggestions:
-NiLS(app): Gives you customizable lockscreen notifications like Lollipop with any lockscreen
-Nova Launcher(app): Just got a huge Lollipop update, the average person won't know the difference to lollipop when looking at the launcher
-Install Lollipop theme to change nav-bar icons (or use xposed or any other method)
-Sony is pretty amazing with app updates, so all the independent apps like Music are Material Design anyway
Cheers
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Thanks for the apps. I'm happy not to be the only one to have made this step!
iFlasher said:
Well. The problem with multitasking happens on all Xperia Z3 phones with Sony´s Lollipop (Yes, I confirmed it after test with 5 different Xperia Z3 phones from friends and family).
After I get frustrated with this problem, I also think in change the phone for an iPhone, but lol, iPhone have similar problems with browsers that can´t keep various tabs opened and ends refreshing all tabs, and other similar multitasking problems because of limited ram. I maybe change my Z3 for an Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in a month (Or when the Galaxy S6 gets Android 5.1 update) because the camera of the Z3 is very bad in quality for me, but until then, I found a "fix" for the multitasking problem:
I finally "fixed" it. ¿How?: Simple, I just installed Cyanogenmod 12.1 in my phone, and it is just... just, very beatiful in multitasking. I can have a loooot of apps opened and get back to one app after a day and they are still opened, it´s is what I ever expected from a phone like Xperia Z3, is amazing. It is because Cyanogenmod is always updated and have all the latest fixes and their own fixes also. I heard that they have fixed more than 51 memory leaks (included the critical ones) in his 12.1 version. Also I get in love with Cyanogenmod extra features.
Yes, I lose all DRM protected features from camera and also PS4 Remote, but meh, camera sucks anyway in stock firmware, and is only a little worse in Cyanogenmod. Just to be careful I backed up my TA partition before unlock my bootloader and go into cyanogenmod.
Hope this helps to all guys that have lollipop, and need a true multitasking on his Xperia Z3 or Z3 Compact.
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CM12.1 alternative is good to know then. If I miss L too much, I guess I'll give a try to CM.
clouds5 said:
Thx for the comparison
I haven't tried Lollipop because there is nothing wrong with KitKat (+ROOT!) and there is nothing about Lollipop that I really need, it's mostly just eye-candy imho. Oh yes there is one small thing: The sparkly unlock animation in KK is the worst, haven't found a way to get rid of it yet... (except using a 3rd party lockscreen - which is something I'm not willing to do because I love my lockscreen widgets, any suggestions?)
Cheers
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Xposed Installer + Xperia Xposed should make you happy.
I see lollipop better than kitkat, phone run faster and smoother. Good update
Son Lam said:
I see lollipop better than kitkat, phone run faster and smoother. Good update
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Yes, is smoother, but we are talking about the multitasking that is not so good as it have to be...
KitKat has much more battery time than lollipop.
What do yolu think
draligus said:
KitKat has much more battery time than lollipop.
What do yolu think
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I think that it's a wrong statement. The same power usage curves and same percentage at the end of the day for me.
However, you might be using apps that don't behave well on LP.
Jack_R1 said:
I think that it's a wrong statement. The same power usage curves and same percentage at the end of the day for me.
However, you might be using apps that don't behave well on LP.
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that was my observation.
KK were amazing for my needs (good battery, smooth).
Lollipop looks just the same.
I always disable animations and whatnot, so I'm kind of an odd user.
to me LLP is good except the quick toggle and sound profile
i need to swipe twice for quick toggle and to swipe twice to close the quick toggle.
using volume button for sound profile annoys me as when i wanna silent my phone while plating music can't be done
multitasking so far is good for me
battery life is the same and in fact idle time is better in LLP
most of the apps improve smoothness in LLP except a few
mimicicu said:
Xposed Installer + Xperia Xposed should make you happy.
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Could you elaborate on that
I have tried to like Lollipop, but the annoyances i really have, is the swipe down quick menu, prefer the kitkat one, and i really dislike, the user icon on the Lockscreen status bar, At the moment, i have reverted back to kitkat, but would love to give lollipop more time, but after a day, i alway's revert back.
clouds5 said:
Could you elaborate on that
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You wanted to get rid of the "sparkly unlock animation" of your Z3 Compact, right?
Do you want the classic Android locker instead?
The original Xperia unlock:
http://i.imgur.com/umsERNx.png
Install Xperia Xposed then this:
http://i.imgur.com/VQOD6ay.png
(reboot)
You activate this:
http://i.imgur.com/92fLyDf.png
And you get this:
http://i.imgur.com/ZOOTdTn.png
So what do you think ?
I think they should not waste any more time in Lollipop.
Its september 1 , they did not release as they told us.We are becoming mate 2 users they are waiting 2 yrs for update.I think mate 7 will stay on kitkat, if we get 5.1.1 that will be last update for sure just my opinion
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Right now im on closed beta 5.1.1 B320 ( its for chinese Mate 7 only), its good and stable enough for daily use, i think Huawei will release the final build soon, be patient
gunlock4real said:
Right now im on closed beta 5.1.1 B320 ( its for chinese Mate 7 only), its good and stable enough for daily use, i think Huawei will release the final build soon, be patient
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Soon??? What about soon?? 1 year...2 year...3 year???? Hihihihihi
B-143 is working v.stable for me.
KitKat to lollipop is a big jump, but tbh I don't really see big hype or changes at the back end to really have much end user impact and tbh sometimes I wonder with all the OEM mutations, how much of optimisations really carry over.
1.IMO the big MM feature is more optimised deep sleep, frankly alot of that is already built into the current build or you could always use greenify.
2. Current build already reports mAH consumption, another feature being cooked in MM.
3. Material skin: download lollipop theme, use nova launcher, use ex dialer, Google keyboard, messenger and you're not that far away.
Hopefully Huawei nexus has the same amazing battery life and hopefully we could steal the fingerprint scanner drivers and hope they work on the one we got. It works amazing right now.
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Hopefully Huawei nexus has the same amazing battery life and hopefully we could steal the fingerprint scanner drivers and hope they work on the one we got. It works amazing right now.
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Bingo. I was thinking exactly the same thing this morning on the way to work. We'll have to see how close the Nexus comes to our beloved decives, but I'd love to see a port of the Nexus firmware for the Mate 7.
blackinfinity said:
So what do you think ?
I think they should not waste any more time in Lollipop.
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Try B317.. seems to be cool..
With apex launcher yes
blackinfinity said:
With apex launcher yes
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What? Never used that..no need..
XDADEVX said:
What? Never used that..no need..
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ever since I did install I have shut up about lollipop I simply do not care any more, Apex gives the speed I did want from day 1.
No more frustrating slow animations that looks like crap..apps open faster with apex for sure...
It felt like an cpu/gpu upgrade for sure..
what a silly question, if they're not bothering with pushing out lollipop, what makes you think they'll even consider pushing out M to the mate7?
Because they did that with mate 2. They skiped kitkat for lolipop
Why would they skip something they are currently (and have already currently) spent money and work hours on aka. Lollipop for another Android version that isn't even officially released? On top of that, the Ascend mate 7 will soon be replaced for a newer Huawei phone.
blackinfinity said:
ever since I did install I have shut up about lollipop I simply do not care any more, Apex gives the speed I did want from day 1.
No more frustrating slow animations that looks like crap..apps open faster with apex for sure...
It felt like an cpu/gpu upgrade for sure..
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Set all animation speeds in developer options to 0,5 and the stock launcher will work faster
Now that the Android 7.0 factory images have been released and most (all?) of the custom ROM & kernel devs are jumping to Nougat, I'm actually missing Marshmallow.
Nougat has some a few interesting features, but it seems like Marshmallow is more stable and is faster (& maybe better battery life too). Maybe this is because the N6 is a 2+ year old device now.
All these new custom ROMs are popping up with "base" versions, lacking much of the functionality they had in Marshmallow. Obviously, that will change over time.
But it leaves me feeling a little empty. I like Marshmallow. It runs well on my device. There are a few apps I use that haven't been updated to Nougat yet and are incompatible. And it leaves me sad to see that development has effectively stopped for MM, even though Google continues to release updates.
I have experimented with building ROMs in the past (Pure Nexus, Dirty Unicorns). Maybe I'll have to learn how to actually build a ROM from scratch to fill this void. Or stick to the "boring" factory images LOL.
I think nougat actually lasts longer. My experience might not be indicative of yours so that's just my opinion. Maybe wait for the apps to get optimized for nougat as well? It might be too early to judge I think
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So far I like M better...
Pros and Cons
Would be nice to have a Pros and Cons section. If you post yours I will update the table here.
M Pros (N Cons):
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Adaway works out of the box
All root file managers can access the system files.
Xposed.
Layers don't work in N
Faster notifications
Working hotspot hack
Mature GPS (problems reported in Nougat)
N Pros (M Cons):
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More updated security patches.
Quick toggles with one swipe.
Keyboard shows numbers on top if entering a password.
Doze (debatable if it is useful or an improvement over M)
Smoother with better battery life? (very questionable!!)
Display can be resized
Saturation of the colors can be changed
Good looking and more functional notifications
najoor said:
Would be nice to start a Pros and Cons section. If you post yours I will update the table here.
M Pros (N Cons):
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Adaway works out of the box
All root file managers can access the system files.
N Pros (M Cons):
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For AdAway to run on N you need to flash the systemless host file, then install AdAway and it works.
I think with each in every Android update this always happens. You can choose to wait to update if you want everything to work like you had it, or you can update then wait for everything else to catch up. The choice is yours. I like to update to the newest OS to see what Google has been working on. Everything will work eventually. If you prefer M then stick to it, sooner or later you will need to update to get the latest security.
Datsun.510 said:
For AdAway to run on N you need to flash the systemless host file, then install AdAway and it works.
I think with each in every Android update this always happens. You can choose to wait to update if you want everything to work like you had it, or you can update then wait for everything else to catch up. The choice is yours. I like to update to the newest OS to see what Google has been working on. Everything will work eventually. If you prefer M then stick to it, sooner or later you will need to update to get the latest security.
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That is what I meant by "out of the box". Adaway always worked with every previous release. This is the first time you need to flash something to make it work.
I will add security to the Cons for M.
What else do you like about N?
najoor said:
That is what I meant by "out of the box". Adaway always worked with every previous release. This is the first time you need to flash something to make it work.
I will add security to the Cons for M.
What else do you like about N?
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Quick panel on the status bar without having to swipe twice. Of course with customs roms you can do smart pull down right or left, also now you can edit the layout without needing a custom ROM.
I like the fact that the you dont have to use the quick tiles and they are just toggles as they should be. There is no good reason a toggle needs to be that big. It was one of the worst changes Google made. Guess they hear enough complaining.
The new doze feature does seem ti be working but it is not helpful as it kinda defeats the purpose of an always connected device.
Other then that I cant say it is really better.
zelendel said:
I like the fact that the you dont have to use the quick tiles and they are just toggles as they should be. There is no good reason a toggle needs to be that big. It was one of the worst changes Google made. Guess they hear enough complaining.
The new doze feature does seem ti be working but it is not helpful as it kinda defeats the purpose of an always connected device.
Other then that I cant say it is really better.
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Yes that's what I meant. Quick toggles with one swipe. Also keyboard now shows numbers on top if entering a password.
Datsun.510 said:
Yes that's what I meant. Quick toggles with one swipe. Also keyboard now shows numbers on top if entering a password.
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Can't say anything about the keyboard. I have never nor will I ever use Google's keyboard.
I actually like Nougat better. I feel it's faster in installing apps smoother overall better battery and a refreshing new ui. Like the jump from kitkat to lollipop. U better learn how to compile because i have been using dirty unicorns 7.0 and its just:good: . I cannot talk about stock os maybe that's why our experiences differ?
Still on Marshmallow and plan on being on it for the foreseeable future. Do not see anything in Nougat that is game changing enough for me to change up right now.
And I also think it is to early to pass judgement between the two. Marshmallow has been around for over a year and therefore devs have had the opportunity to create, test, and mod it to perfection. It is tried and tested at this point. I imagine this same topic comes up whenever a major update comes along. Nougat is still new. In 6 months time, Nougat will be in the process of becoming just as stable and customized as Marshmallow is now. Also keep in mind that Marshallmallow is still barely on that many devices and is still very current and up to date.
Another big deciding factor for me is Xposed. I run a couple Instagram accounts which requires me to post stuff that nobody else has. I acquire that material thru Xposed modules. Also with minminguard, Youtube background playback and ad remover, and Greenify Xposed version, I can't imagine moving on without it. I do not plan on moving on to 7.x until Xposed is updated for it, as well as the modules I use. Keep in mind that this may never come, as Xposed updates are not guaranteed.
In short, I am perfectly fine with staying with Marshmallow. Latest updates from my favorite ROM are from September and as time goes by, being open source, I can merge latest security fixes and build it myself if need be.
PS: I have not even tried Nougat at all. Not even developer previews. Just do not see any valid reason to do so in comparison to Marshmallow.
christianpeso said:
Still on Marshmallow and plan on being on it for the foreseeable future. Do not see anything in Nougat that is game changing enough for me to change up right now.
And I also think it is to early to pass judgement between the two. Marshmallow has been around for over a year and therefore devs have had the opportunity to create, test, and mod it to perfection. It is tried and tested at this point. I imagine this same topic comes up whenever a major update comes along. Nougat is still new. In 6 months time, Nougat will be in the process of becoming just as stable and customized as Marshmallow is now. Also keep in mind that Marshallmallow is still barely on that many devices and is still very current and up to date.
Another big deciding factor for me is Xposed. I run a couple Instagram accounts which requires me to post stuff that nobody else has. I acquire that material thru Xposed modules. Also with minminguard, Youtube background playback and ad remover, and Greenify Xposed version, I can't imagine moving on without it. I do not plan on moving on to 7.x until Xposed is updated for it, as well as the modules I use. Keep in mind that this may never come, as Xposed updates are not guaranteed.
In short, I am perfectly fine with staying with Marshmallow. Latest updates from my favorite ROM are from September and as time goes by, being open source, I can merge latest security fixes and build it myself if need be.
PS: I have not even tried Nougat at all. Not even developer previews. Just do not see any valid reason to do so in comparison to Marshmallow.
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I'm in the same situation as well. I am probably also one of the few who has never ran Nougat. I'm at a point right now where I need everything stable and working as life has been very busy lately. I also will be staying with Marshmallow until a very stable version of Nougat comes out, esp since I have to change over the radio and bootloader.
I also use Xposed heavily and the current themes that I have..... I don't want to do without just to have the latest version. I'll wait until next year if I have to if thats how long it takes to get Nougat up and running with fully supported Xposed as well.
mikeprius said:
I'm in the same situation as well. I am probably also one of the few who has never ran Nougat. I'm at a point right now where I need everything stable and working as life has been very busy lately. I also will be staying with Marshmallow until a very stable version of Nougat comes out, esp since I have to change over the radio and bootloader.
I also use Xposed heavily and the current themes that I have..... I don't want to do without just to have the latest version. I'll wait until next year if I have to if thats how long it takes to get Nougat up and running with fully supported Xposed as well.
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I'm a grown-up old dude, and I don't really use my phone like most kids nowadays, my social network footprint is like a lil lovebird. I think I post more here than any other web forum/social place. But i feel my battery is a lot better, not just a bit but a lot, the phone seems faster and snappier, and the only thing I miss from Xposed is blocking adds in YouTube, most of the time you can skip those so not a biggie, and YouTube screen off playback module. Everything else seems better to me on Nougat and I didn't felt the same from LP to MM. I mostly flash aosp Roms or stock based which probably adds to my perception. I know that cm is basically based on aosp like anything Android.
At the time of GB custom Roms were the rule for me cause plain Android lacked many features that cm and others had, but as I grew older I seem to be running less custom options on my phone and have less patience than before to deal with sod, reboots, and such. I still experiment, and when there's something really new I'll flash my phone, but seems I always end up running some kind of aosp/modified stock rom.
If you want a lot of options and customization, stay on MM. Like every other update before this custom roms haven't catch up but it will get there and we'll have this same conversation around October next year.
Probably not on this parts of XDA.
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Also there's this, for some weird reason I like this crap, lol, I'm a dog person, have a mini pinch and a pitbull.
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I am a fan of N and have been since the July 18th NDP5. I like the lock screen notifications much better. I like and use split screen (not all the time but when I need it, it works perfect and easy) . I am becoming a bigger fan of security and things being more locked down. The things we really need will come in time they always do (it did just come out). I have always gotten good battery life and still do. I think the stock N is getting much better than stock MM. I like Android Pay so I am actually trying to live with no root on PureNexus, I do really miss adaway the most and being able to substratum the lock screen notifications. But at the end of the day I am fine with it for now.
Overall I am glad to be on N and believe it will get much better once we get 7.1 and higher.
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I'm a grown-up old dude, and I don't really use my phone like most kids nowadays, my social network footprint is like a lil lovebird. I think I post more here than any other web forum/social place. But i feel my battery is a lot better, not just a bit but a lot, the phone seems faster and snappier, and the only thing I miss from Xposed is blocking adds in YouTube, most of the time you can skip those so not a biggie, and YouTube screen off playback module. Everything else seems better to me on Nougat and I didn't felt the same from LP to MM. I mostly flash aosp Roms or stock based which probably adds to my perception. I know that cm is basically based on aosp like anything Android.
At the time of GB custom Roms were the rule for me cause plain Android lacked many features that cm and others had, but as I grew older I seem to be running less custom options on my phone and have less patience than before to deal with sod, reboots, and such. I still experiment, and when there's something really new I'll flash my phone, but seems I always end up running some kind of aosp/modified stock rom.
If you want a lot of options and customization, stay on MM. Like every other update before this custom roms haven't catch up but it will get there and we'll have this same conversation around October next year.
Probably not on this parts of XDA.
Also there's this, for some weird reason I like this crap, lol, I'm a dog person, have a mini pinch and a pitbull.
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I get having everything work, that's one thing that stock Google Android offers is there are minimal bugs vs. custom ROMs. I'm used to a lot of features trying to do without gets to me. One issue is all the ad related things like youtube and Ad away so I use those mods. Plus minminguard. Also some things like the notification light and disabling heads up/toast notifications.
I'll wait until Chroma or DU drops N then I may try it. I'm using DU's latest M ROM and it works 100%.
What is that screenshot of ? the animals ?
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I get having everything work, that's one thing that stock Google Android offers is there are minimal bugs vs. custom ROMs. I'm used to a lot of features trying to do without gets to me. One issue is all the ad related things like youtube and Ad away so I use those mods. Plus minminguard. Also some things like the notification light and disabling heads up/toast notifications.
I'll wait until Chroma or DU drops N then I may try it. I'm using DU's latest M ROM and it works 100%.
What is that screenshot of ? the animals ?
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That's the cat game in Nougat.
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Maybe I'll do a build of Pure Nexus 7.0 and give it another try. I see recent commits for controlling the LED!
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najoor said:
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Smoother with better battery life? (very questionable!!)
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After a few days Nougat on my N6 I think that Marshmallow consumed less battery power.
My battery usage is on par with what I had on MM on the MOBXXX roms, the older roms were better, but MOB was snappier.
I like that the QS tiles can be arranged now without the tuner, the new controls on the first swipe, and the new notifications. Also the much shorter optimizing apps time.
So I wouldn't go back
I also think marshmallow is faster and more fluid. Let's see what happens with 7.1.
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Open Hicare and click on update, apply and go to settings and open updater.
To downgrade: Install HiSuite in Pc. Downgrade through pc.
Nice someone have any ideea when this will come for FRD-L09 too ?
Sheldd said:
Nice someone have any ideea when this will come for FRD-L09 too ?
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February
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shook187 said:
February
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Have u checked with Huawei firmware finder ?
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Honor said so, I've seen in an article on GSMarena
dinoypeter said:
Open Hicare and click on update, apply and go to settings and open updater.
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Thanks for the tip. I just upgraded it yesterday :
supamike said:
Thanks for the tip. I just upgraded it yesterday :
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How it's treating you?!
CronaMell said:
How it's treating you?!
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Quite well for the moment, I am pretty happy with it, I didn't have any big issue yet
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Quite well for the moment, I am pretty happy with it, I didn't have any big issue yet
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:good:
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My first observations after upgrade:
- system is smooth and fast, but the fact is that it was such before upgrade as well;
- smart battery saving leave you less options as before; you can't use it with screen off time adjustment any more; my impression is that with no battery saving you achieve less uptime than before and with smart battery the same as before but with more restrictions;
- overall color specter moved toward blue and a lot of white; light color letters on white background are sometimes difficult to read;
- safetynet (indicator of secure applications like Android Pay and Pokemon) fails wit the last upgrade; it passed with MM and first N upgrade 336;
- still no trace of wifi calling.
Camera is subject to more deep and demanding analyze which may follow latter.
Overall I'll be glad to get safetynet back and wifi calling sometimes soon.
piskr said:
My first observations after upgrade:
- system is smooth and fast, but the fact is that it was such before upgrade as well;
- smart battery saving leave you less options as before; you can't use it with screen off time adjustment any more; my impression is that with no battery saving you achieve less uptime than before and with smart battery the same as before but with more restrictions;
- overall color specter moved toward blue and a lot of white; light color letters on white background are sometimes difficult to read;
- safetynet (indicator of secure applications like Android Pay and Pokemon) fails wit the last upgrade; it passed with MM and first N upgrade 336;
- still no trace of wifi calling.
Camera is subject to more deep and demanding analyze which may follow latter.
Overall I'll be glad to get safetynet back and wifi calling sometimes soon.
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That's comprehensive, thanks
Perfect, bit I think I have no look, so for my al10 there is any another way to get thi b356 update?
Iaa85 from Brazil with Honor 8
iaa85 said:
Perfect, bit I think I have no look, so for my al10 there is any another way to get thi b356 update?
Iaa85 from Brazil with Honor 8
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other guy had al10, he did what i did, u have to be on the latest software, and then register on hicare
I also upgraded to 5.0 and then I did a factory reset to set all from the beginning...It seems to me that battery runs out a bit faster (first thoughts) and I agree with all written before this post....
I fell in love with new quick tools panel quickly, so dont feel about downgrading so far))
I will wait till our russian coleagues make up a clean EMUI 5.0 (without bloat and perhaps with some customizations) as they did for 4.1 (author: greatslon at 4pda)
Or maybe our honor devs will give us some cure in new builds...
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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It says something like:
This update optimizes the system and stability and makes the phone run more smooth. It repairs Taobao app text dialog box on order to prevent blocking input method. It also repairs the problem that call recording can’t add the specific contact. Further, the problems that outgoing call can’t be placed and phone can’t be connected to WIFI are fixed as well. Removed error that Talkback can’t be used. Fixed HuaweiShare autolaunch after WIFI download rate is reduced. Fixed issues with 123006?? and banking (shopping??) apps like Taobao. Power consumption is optimized in order to extend battery life. Screen brightness parameters optimization.
The translate is result of mutual efforts of me and GoogleTranslate and it is far from perfect.
My first impressions after update:
The system is stable and ready for the transition from beta to the production version. It is responsive, smooth and fast. No substantial deficiencies could be detected. There are still some glitches that should be improved though:
1. In order to make the outlook white as a snow (combined with sea blue) the producer made some application text hard to read (white on the bright)
2. Using the power saving mode gives you insane 6 hours of SOT. But the mode fixes screen on when passive to 30 secs time and it can't be adjusted. What could be really annoying in some situations. I would have easily sacrificed 1 hour of SOT if I had option to turn off the screen manually.
3. SafetyNet (connected with payment and other safety apps) fails after every upgrade. Thankfully so far I had it back in a few days and I hope that it will happen this time too. I think that the failure is connected to beta status of the upgrade: Google might consider upgrade as a test version of the system (safe applications don't work on the rooted phone, custom recovery, unlocked bootloader or test versions of the system). I don't understand the mechanism on which the functionality suddenly returns: is it by Huawei's intervention, Google app upgrade or simply recognizing the upgrade as real, not test version.
Finally, there is an improved custom ROM for AL10 and AL00 (HRT-Kangvip) if someone with rooted phone wanna try: http://club.huawei.com/thread-11821416-1-1.html (use GoogleTranslate).
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I also upgraded to 5.0 and then I did a factory reset to set all from the beginning...It seems to me that battery runs out a bit faster (first thoughts) and I agree with all written before this post....
I fell in love with new quick tools panel quickly, so dont feel about downgrading so far))
I will wait till our russian coleagues make up a clean EMUI 5.0 (without bloat and perhaps with some customizations) as they did for 4.1 (author: greatslon at 4pda)
Or maybe our honor devs will give us some cure in new builds...
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It will come shortly. Maybe this month.
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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next time use google translate app to translate text in pictures. battery is better on this update as well as performance. i aslo noticed that the camera takes better photos in nougat as compared to 6.0
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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Where r u based mate.
I have read that were getting out update sooner rather than later
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johnhux7 said:
Where r u based mate.
I have read that were getting out update sooner rather than later
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I am in China, I already got 3 updates since I bought it (3 weeks ago).
That's why I can't really compare with marshmallow as I didn't use it much.
I just found out they still didn't fix the bug when we use the fingerprint to slide photos in the gallery. It works but it's not as smooth as before.
So about 1,1 GB update is available for us. What is your opinion on the update? Did it fix all of your issues or brought you way more issues?
The hissing sound is finally gone, I can't see any bug right there (someone faced the uncertified bug, but for me isn't here, maybe try to reboot), I'll see if the battery now isn't draining too much like in May update
If hissing is fixed, can anyone extract necessary audio related files?
Under phone info there is a (prerelease) kernel, dunno why
There's now Gestures under system settings!
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If hissing is fixed, can anyone extract necessary audio related files?
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In changelog was noted: "Sound improvements".
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So about 1,1 GB update is available for us. What is your opinion on the update? Did it fix all of your issues or brought you way more issues?
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Klasputnikov said:
The hissing sound is finally gone, I can't see any bug right there (someone faced the uncertified bug, but for me isn't here, maybe try to reboot), I'll see if the battery now isn't draining too much like in May update
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in my case i can still hear the hissing with low impedance earbuds (panasonic RP-TCM125)
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Under phone info there is a (prerelease) kernel, dunno why
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yes i can see that too, Im using global version
alsheron said:
There's now Gestures under system settings!
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it's the same gesture page as previous versions but now moved there
Phone works slower, seems to be laggy now, it used to be very snappy on 8.0.
I had no bugs on 8.0... update deleted my messages.
It's quite disappointing that android one gets bugged 8.1 literally 7 months after it goes public
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Phone works slower, seems to be laggy now, it used to be very snappy on 8.0.
I had no bugs on 8.0... update deleted my messages.
It's quite disappointing that android one gets bugged 8.1 literally 7 months after it goes public
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Same here! Had a very snappy 8.0 phone. Now its all sluggish and laggy. Did u do a factory reset? Maybe it helps...
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Phone works slower, seems to be laggy now, it used to be very snappy on 8.0.
I had no bugs on 8.0... update deleted my messages.
It's quite disappointing that android one gets bugged 8.1 literally 7 months after it goes public
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Same here! Had a very snappy 8.0 phone. Now its all sluggish and laggy. Did u do a factory reset? Maybe it helps...
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my phone got snappier after update, but fingerprint scanner got a bit slower.
My phone certainly felt slower after the 8.1 update.
I did not encounter the SMS message bug but some hours after the update I lost WiFi connection altogether (could not enable WiFi, mac address 2:0:0:0... I had no choice but to reflash from stock image. After the reflash I'm still at 8.0, as the reflash phone is not seeing the 8.1 update yet.
FYI I use Magisk and Franco kernel app. When the 8.1 update is available for my phone again I'm going to take more time with backup and checking that there are no compatibility issues.
Hey guys, I'm still on that first may update. didn't even update the 2nd one of may that was 58mbs. Everyone keeps saying that it lowers the volume of the speaker. Is that true?? and does the June update fixes that or just keeps it lowered?
ГАСООП said:
Phone works slower, seems to be laggy now, it used to be very snappy on 8.0.
I had no bugs on 8.0... update deleted my messages.
It's quite disappointing that android one gets bugged 8.1 literally 7 months after it goes public
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In my case I feel the OS way more smooth and stable and I am heavy user.
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My phone certainly felt slower after the 8.1 update.
I did not encounter the SMS message bug but some hours after the update I lost WiFi connection altogether (could not enable WiFi, mac address 2:0:0:0... I had no choice but to reflash from stock image. After the reflash I'm still at 8.0, as the reflash phone is not seeing the 8.1 update yet.
FYI I use Magisk and Franco kernel app. When the 8.1 update is available for my phone again I'm going to take more time with backup and checking that there are no compatibility issues.
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Wifi MAC address problem ìs not from stock 8.1 but from incompatible kernel (like FK for now).
A pretty decent update in my case. Didn't encounter any bugs or issues so far, only that phone was really slow after first boot but after maybe 10 minutes or so it started working as fast as 8.0.
I like how the colors are now changing according to the dominant color of the wallpaper, but tinting on lockscreen or under notifications in that same color is a little bit weird... but I'll probably get used to it.
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8.1 update, lost all stored sms messages and SafetyNet check fails... Everything is stock and has aleays been stock so this is Xiaomi's fault
Xiaomi pulled the 8.1 update and its no longer available so we should wait until they release a bug-free version of it.
Did this fix the scroll lag?
Xiaomi pulled back the update. Those updated should receive an incremental update to fix bugs.
You had one job, and for how many times Xiaomi is pulling updates after they release is to their devices, in this case, to Mi A1?
Really, we are talking about the Android One device, and only one device that is out there on the market.
And for the love of God, this is 8.1 update, nothing major.
Looking forward what they will do with the 9.0 update and how long we will wait for it.
Luckily, on my dad´s Mi A1, it is still 8.0 and february security patch, I was waiting for this update to install on his phone but this happens. Also I don´t know if it is true about the audio, it is lowered after some updates after may month I think. I don´t know if everyone is affected or not.