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Hello Members
I've got the head unit above, it's an Android 4.4.4 , at 1gig of Ram.
I can install the Sygic app from the store without any problems, but when the setup comes to needing to download the mapping, it can't, it either reports there's a connection issue, or the round timer just keeps rotating.
I have downloaded other navigation software IE Copilot, and there's been no problem.
I can surf the web, use my Gmail, download apps.
I've tried setting up Sygic using my home router internet, and my tether connection from my phone with no luck.
Is there something I can do, or what's the issue with Sygic?
Help would be great thanks
This is because Sygic wants to identify your unit as a cellphone and wants a valid and unique cellphone IMEI number. The Android head units all have a fake and the same IMEI number because they don't actually have cellphone modems built in, so Sygic will not be able to properly register with the download server because its trying to this fake IMEI number.
There is a way around this issue:
In your Sygic Navigation folder after you run it one time (on my device it's under /sdcard/SygicNavigation), there is a folder called Android. Within that folder, create a file called settings_overload.ini and add the following lines:
[RuntimeSettings]
m_strDrvDevice=mac
I also had tochange the same m_strDrvDevice paramater in the settings.ini file from IMEI to mac to get it to work for me, so you might want to do that as well.
You will need to edit the files using "RootExplorer".
After you do that, then Sygic will be able to properly talk to the download servers and register your unit to download maps.
This should really be in the Wiki/FAQ.
What i did to solve this was to install and run it on my Galaxy tab, then just copied the sygic folder over to My HU and works like a charm now.
Probably could use phone as well.
Thanks nixfu and nujackk for the help, but can I just mention that my Android headunit isn't rooted, so can I still use RootExplorer, and do I install RootExplorer on the Headunit?
Hello Members
I just wanted to again say thanks for the information, I realised that the only way I can do the edits recommended by nixfu, is by 'Rooting' the Pumpkin Head unit, which I have no knowledge on how to do it, and which I rather not do anyway.
I did manage to find a similar navigationally app called Navigon UK, which installed without problem, had no issues in downloading and installing the maps, and has pretty much the same 'Assisted lane guidance' (like Sygic's 'Dynamic lane assist).
I see no point in Sygic being so restrictive in presenting this hardware compatibility issue, and as long as the user has paid for the applications licence, and is a registered user on there download servers, there shouldn't be this unnecessary obstacle.
kind regards
Livio
Hi All,
I recently treat myself to an A-Sure AS-S3OVB (Running android 5.1.1) headunit for my UK Spec Vauxhall Zafira. I am very impressed with the unit and making a few tweaks has made it into a very impressive piece of kit. I don't know if its MTCB or MTCD or even anything to do with those two things, so Im afraid I can't reliably post inside another sub-forum.
However, I now have a few final things that I would like to TRY to make the unit do...
1...
I want my Notifications from my phone (Not ALL notifications, just ones from SMS to appear on the HeadUnit (BIG CENTRAL SCREEN notification would be ideal) and perhaps read the message with TTS?
Is this possible, and does there exist any software to make this happen?
Essentially, i want my HeadUnit to do all the things it normally does, but also behave in a similar fashion to a smart watch for mirroring notifications.
I have looked at things like PUSHBULLET and the such but have had little success...
2...
I would like to set one of my steering wheel control buttons to fire up google voice search, so as I can tap a button and then say "Play <generic song name> on spotify" - and thus said song will play.
Is its possible using the onboard software, or with a 3rd party app?
3...
I would like to change what the external display says when i am using certain apps (its done through an external CANBUS box but I believe controlled by the software in the HU). For example, at the moment when I am running spotify, my external in car display shows "MP5" - Would be much prettier if i could make it say "Spotify" or "Streaming" or something similar.
Is this possible at all?
4...
Finally, is there any way to get Google TTS to work with my mapping sortware? I use Co-Pilot Live which works 100% in every other way, just it doesnt work output and voice instructions when set to Google TTS. I have a feeling this is more to do with thge funky version of android thats installed as standard on the HU, less so than co-pilot itself.
Can anyone advise? Thanks in advance - I know someone will have an answer as this is seemingly the greatest forum on the whole of the interwebs!!!
tegan1110 said:
Hi All,
I recently treat myself to an A-Sure AS-S3OVB (Running android 5.1.1) headunit for my UK Spec Vauxhall Zafira. I am very impressed with the unit and making a few tweaks has made it into a very impressive piece of kit. I don't know if its MTCB or MTCD or even anything to do with those two things, so Im afraid I can't reliably post inside another sub-forum.
However, I now have a few final things that I would like to TRY to make the unit do...
1...
I want my Notifications from my phone (Not ALL notifications, just ones from SMS to appear on the HeadUnit (BIG CENTRAL SCREEN notification would be ideal) and perhaps read the message with TTS?
Is this possible, and does there exist any software to make this happen?
Essentially, i want my HeadUnit to do all the things it normally does, but also behave in a similar fashion to a smart watch for mirroring notifications.
I have looked at things like PUSHBULLET and the such but have had little success...
2...
I would like to set one of my steering wheel control buttons to fire up google voice search, so as I can tap a button and then say "Play <generic song name> on spotify" - and thus said song will play.
Is its possible using the onboard software, or with a 3rd party app?
3...
I would like to change what the external display says when i am using certain apps (its done through an external CANBUS box but I believe controlled by the software in the HU). For example, at the moment when I am running spotify, my external in car display shows "MP5" - Would be much prettier if i could make it say "Spotify" or "Streaming" or something similar.
Is this possible at all?
4...
Finally, is there any way to get Google TTS to work with my mapping sortware? I use Co-Pilot Live which works 100% in every other way, just it doesnt work output and voice instructions when set to Google TTS. I have a feeling this is more to do with thge funky version of android thats installed as standard on the HU, less so than co-pilot itself.
Can anyone advise? Thanks in advance - I know someone will have an answer as this is seemingly the greatest forum on the whole of the interwebs!!!
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1) try automate or Android auto to bring your phone notifications onto headunit
2) enable "ok Google" on every screen
3) not easy. you have to decompile the app used by mcu and modify it.
4) I don't know if copilot could use Google tts voices (or you have to install own copilot advanced voices). Sygic can use Google tts
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ikerg said:
1) try automate or Android auto to bring your phone notifications onto headunit
2) enable "ok Google" on every screen
3) not easy. you have to decompile the app used by mcu and modify it.
4) I don't know if copilot could use Google tts voices (or you have to install own copilot advanced voices). Sygic can use Google tts
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Thanks for quick reply,
1) I dont use Android Auto, can it be used via Bluetooth, or Wifi, or does it HAVE to be connected by USB cable?
2) I dont have the options to enable "ok Google" on every screen, I know the options SHOULD be there, and I know where they should be... But they are absent!
3) Sounds like a challenge for a project in the future
4) Copilot can use Google TTS as it works just like that on my phone - it just behaves a little differently on the HU, which is why I was wondering if they had left some part of the TTS system out of their build of android or something?
Jamie
tegan1110 said:
Thanks for quick reply,
1) I dont use Android Auto, can it be used via Bluetooth, or Wifi, or does it HAVE to be connected by USB cable?
2) I dont have the options to enable "ok Google" on every screen, I know the options SHOULD be there, and I know where they should be... But they are absent!
3) Sounds like a challenge for a project in the future
4) Copilot can use Google TTS as it works just like that on my phone - it just behaves a little differently on the HU, which is why I was wondering if they had left some part of the TTS system out of their build of android or something?
Jamie
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1) Android auto can be used by wifi
2) Google now works for me.in my unit. The developer should have to remove it.
3) yes
4) strange thing. Have you tried the Google tts if is installed and working?
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Here is how to fix an error similar to this: App "Won't run without google play services which are not supported by your device" on Firestick 2.
There was an older thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/installing-google-play-service-rooted-t3574088 that updated info from here http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-inst...amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-without-root/ but both are outdated at least for the apps I am using. Also, they did not list the source for their working version for when the tutorial gets dated.
Only two steps are required.
For now, https://www.apkmirror.com/ has the most up to date version and seems to update daily. You can use a sideloaded Google Browser or the AFTV browser in the Downloader App (enable JavaScript in settings) that is provided in the Amazon Firestick Store.
1. Go to source website (they do not have an app) and search Google Play Store for ANDROID TV. Ensure you download the version that explicitly states (Android TV) in the title. The ones that were not titled did not work even though the description said for Android TV.
2. On the same website search and download Google Play Services for Android TV
That is it. No need to download anything else, no need to log in, or even click the apps you downloaded. Since the website does not have an app, it won't auto update but hopefully, your apps do not require a constantly updated store.
I did this and the play store never loads. Advice?
total7kaos said:
I did this and the play store never loads. Advice?
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The play store does not need to load. This guide is not for getting a functioning play store but to allow apps that require Google Play Services to function.
Thank you, bro. Last time I downloaded 4 files including a PlayStore, this is excellent.
velayo said:
Thank you, bro. Last time I downloaded 4 files including a PlayStore, this is excellent.
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You are welcome. I know, it was much simpler than the older tutorials made it out to be. Also by listing the source, hopefully, this tutorial can be relevant for a very long time.
What do you mean source web site?
Nm I got it thanks bunches
You rock, thank you!
Just to clarify as I got a bit confused at the beginning.
1. From APK mirror download 2 APKS with these names in the title, get the latest version.
-1. Google Play Store (Android TV)
apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-store-android-tv
- 2. Google Play services (Android TV)
apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services-android-tv
2. They can be downloaded from the device via a browser (enable java)) or side loaded.
3. Once you have them on the device, install them but no need to launch them. I installed 1 and then 2.
4. Launch your app that threw the error before and now it should work.
melonboy666 said:
You rock, thank you!
Just to clarify as I got a bit confused at the beginning.
1. From APK mirror download 2 APKS with these names in the title, get the latest version.
-1. Google Play Store (Android TV)
apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-store-android-tv
- 2. Google Play services (Android TV)
apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services-android-tv
2. They can be downloaded from the device via a browser (enable java)) or side loaded.
3. Once you have them on the device, install them but no need to launch them. I installed 1 and then 2.
4. Launch your app that threw the error before and now it should work.
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Yes, that is all I did and it worked.
Side note. I personally use the https://apkpure.com/ because it has an actual app store. I could not find the correct version on there but once I used the APK mirror one, the Pure store was able to find and update it and it worked. Maybe it was a one time deal but thought I would mention it. That might make it easier than continuing to use a browser. However, apps don't seem to require the newest version of Play, so no big deal either way.
Didn't work for me
Did not work for me. Any chance to confirm the working versions?
I'm on:
Fire TV Gen2 / Fire OS 5.2.6.0 (FireTV Home version 6.0.0.0-264)
I used-
Google Play Store (Android TV) v. 8.0.2.8 ( 8.0.28.R-xhdpi (8) (PR) 163004339)
Google Play Services (Android TV) 11.7.46 (836-175121617) (11746836)
^^- There were newer versions, but the new versions were all betas and I didn't want to fool with that.
I get same errors as the OP- "App "Won't run without google play services which are not supported by your device"
For what it's worth I'm trying to use my (paid for) version of realMyst.
Any help? Thanks!
Racer_X_ said:
Did not work for me. Any chance to confirm the working versions?
I'm on:
Fire TV Gen2 / Fire OS 5.2.6.0 (FireTV Home version 6.0.0.0-264)
I used-
Google Play Store (Android TV) v. 8.0.2.8 ( 8.0.28.R-xhdpi (8) (PR) 163004339)
Google Play Services (Android TV) 11.7.46 (836-175121617) (11746836)
^^- There were newer versions, but the new versions were all betas and I didn't want to fool with that.
I get same errors as the OP- "App "Won't run without google play services which are not supported by your device"
For what it's worth I'm trying to use my (paid for) version of realMyst.
Any help? Thanks!
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Hmm, even if it is an older version, it should give you an “update error” not a “not supported error”
My apkpure app has updated the Google Play Store but not the Services.
Currently my Google Play Services is 11.5.09 (836-164803921) Try this first.
and my store which just updated now is 8.3.75.U-all [0] [FP] 173942022
This is what is working for me right now. Let me know if that works.
allusernamestaken said:
Hmm, even if it is an older version, it should give you an “update error” not a “not supported error”
My apkpure app has updated the Google Play Store but not the Services.
Currently my Google Play Services is 11.5.09 (836-164803921) Try this first.
and my store which just updated now is 8.3.75.U-all [0] [FP] 173942022
This is what is working for me right now. Let me know if that works.
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Hey, thanks for the quick reply... and for your help, generally. So- some slight progress, I guess.....
The app starts to load, but now I get the error- "This app requires the latest version of the Google Play Games app." with the option to cancel or install. Install leads to the error- This version of the app isn't compatible with your device. To fix this problem, go to Settings and uninstall updates for the Google Play Store app."
I guess I could try installing that next. I see there are (Android TV) versions of that app. Any suggestions which one(s) might be confirmed working for my OS?
Also- Is there not some way to modify an app so that it plays but doesn't need to reach out to google play? But that method probably wouldn't be the same method for all apps then (so not useful to try and figure out b/c limited use). These google apps eat up a lot of space on the very limited Amazon internal storage. Haven't tried to move them to external yet.
Also also- How did you get brakets ( ][) in your post? The site won't let me put them in, saying bbcode is forbidden.
allusernamestaken said:
Hmm, even if it is an older version, it should give you an “update error” not a “not supported error”
My apkpure app has updated the Google Play Store but not the Services.
Currently my Google Play Services is 11.5.09 (836-164803921) Try this first.
and my store which just updated now is 8.3.75.U-all [0] [FP] 173942022
This is what is working for me right now. Let me know if that works.
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So I did go ahead and install a Google Play Games, just for fun. This one:
5.3.98 (174057789.174057789-046) (Not the most recent but only a couple weeks old)
Didn't work. Got a blank screen on loading realMyst. Then I tried something- I moved realMyst from the the SDdrive to internal storage. THAT seemed to help. For a bit.
With rM on internal storage, google play games started up. But it wanted me to log in:
x'ing out - went to a black screen permanently
choosing 'use an account' or 'login with account' somthing like that- went to a black screen permanently
choosing 'use google play services' - went to a black screen permanently.
I'm getting tired of that having to be on internal storage issue... The Fire TV has so little internal memory... what a hassle. Unless maybe if I move all 4 services out the sd drive......
And anyway it still doesn't work.
Any suggestions, generally, on google play games version, internal/sd location, etc. would be appreciated. But I'm coming up to my wall, at least for this round....
I bought this thing, secondarily, for the game capability. But their game selection stinks. (Chose this over shield b/c I only really want app games on tv, and I use it for tv/media as well. Seemed more solid. And less expensive.)
Anyway... les sigh.
The app starts to load, but now I get the error- "This app requires the latest version of the Google Play Games app." with the option to cancel or install. Install leads to the error- This version of the app isn't compatible with your device. To fix this problem, go to Settings and uninstall updates for the Google Play Store app."
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Did it just start to work or did you wind up changing the versions? This would help future users. Slight progress but another snag for your issue I see.
Also- Is there not some way to modify an app so that it plays but doesn't neDidn't work. Got a blank screen on loading realMyst. Then I tried something- I moved realMyst from the the SDdrive to internal storage. THAT seemed to help. For a bit.ed to reach out to google play?
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Way above my layman knowledge to answer that. It is stupid that apps even require Google Play unless needed to function.. There are many devices and stores that are not Google.
Now this method is really to fool apps that don’t really even need to use Google Play but for some reason require it. I am not familiar with Google Play Games but does your app actually need a FUNCTIONING Google service to work? If so than......
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From my quick review Google Play Games says “Games get more fun with the Google Play Games app. Browse and compete with friends, track your achievements, and pick up where you left off, on any device. As you master more games, show off your skills in your gamer profile. Record your gameplay and share it to YouTube. Play the world, anywhere in the world, all from one place“.
So from this description it appears you might need the real and not fictitious Google since it seems the game actually utilizes its framework or api to “compete with friends, track achievements and pick up where you left off on any device”. If that is the case.......not an easy fix.
Also also- How did you get brakets ( ][) in your post? The site won't let me put them in, saying bbcode is forbidden.
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I just used the iPad and [][]
allusernamestaken said:
Did it just start to work or did you wind up changing the versions? Slight progress but another snag I see.
Now this method is really to fool apps that don’t really even need to use Google Play but for some reason require it. I am not familiar with Google Play Games but does your app actually need a FUNCTIONING Google service to work? If so than......
I just used the iPad and [][]
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Oh no, I should have specified- I installed the versions you suggested. Restarted, and open rM (realMyst). That's when I got to the Google Play Games requirement. Looking back, other versions I tried may have said that (Need-Games) and I didn't notice the difference. Moot point, we're on this path now.
So that's when I installed the above version of Google Games. Restarted. Started rM. Got to the 'choose a way to log in' errors, above.
To the best of my knowledge, rM doesn't need google play store or games. I'm not sure why it ever would, actually.. But it's single player, I think it's 'coninuous save', but you don't have multiple save games/points. There is no multiplayer, and no in-app purchases (that I recall). realMyst is a port of an old pc game, called Myst. They had a sequel, called Riven. This is just an android version of that old game. It's a first person explore and puzzle-solve game. Had great graphics for back then. Same kinda deal as like Out of This World (which will run on my Fire.)
And ur lucky with the brackets, I had to edit all the file names to remove then. And also just figure out that it was the brackets that were the problem. I have no idea what bbcode is, lol...
Racer_X_ said:
Oh no, I should have specified- I installed the versions you suggested. Restarted, and open rM (realMyst). That's when I got to the Google Play Games requirement. Looking back, other versions I tried may have said that (Need-Games) and I didn't notice the difference. Moot point, we're on this path now.
in-app purchases (that I recall). a...
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Probably, I don’t see how an updated version of the correct file would error. Moot for you but not future users:angel:
I was editing my previous comment while you were apparently still here.
I added
From my quick review Google Play Games says “Games get more fun with the Google Play Games app. Browse and compete with friends, track your achievements, and pick up where you left off, on any device. As you master more games, show off your skills in your gamer profile. Record your gameplay and share it to YouTube. Play the world, anywhere in the world, all from one place“.
So from this description it appears you might need the real and not fictitious Google since it seems the game actually utilizes its framework or api to “compete with friends, track achievements and pick up where you left off on any device”. If that is the case.......not an easy fix.
allusernamestaken said:
Probably, I don’t see how an updated version of the correct file would error. Moot for you but not future users:angel:
From my quick review Google Play Games says “Games get more fun with the Google Play Games app. Browse and compete with friends, track your achievements, and pick up where you left off, on any device. As you master more games, show off your skills in your gamer profile. Record your gameplay and share it to YouTube. Play the world, anywhere in the world, all from one place“.
So from this description it appears you might need the real and not fictitious Google since it seems the game actually utilizes its framework or api to “compete with friends, track achievements and pick up where you left off on any device”. If that is the case.......not an easy fix.
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My assumption was that newer versions would be better programmed to figure out that they were on a Fire and to stop working. Just like any kind of copy-protection. So that only older or 'adjusted' versions would work.
So I just loaded it up on my phone. First screen- permissions. Asks for camera, mic, other stuff, I forget what exactly. But I clicked 'don't ask again' and "Deny". The app says something about 'won't be able to save games without storage permissions'. Ok, fine for now, whatever.
Then, yes, Google Play does prompt me to create a Gamer ID (A google play account, I suppose.) My options are 'learn more' and 'Next'. This I've seen other apps do, sometime pretty insistently. But this time I can simply back out of it (The android back button on the phone). And this sends me straight to the game. The game opens, etc.
It does look like there are saved games (bookmarks). I can go back and play with the storage permissions (on my phone, at least.)
Many games will prompt to create a gamer ID. Some can be quite naggy. But at some point I can always back out and continue without.
Does that help at all? I kinda get that we're coming to the end of the road...
Racer_X_ said:
My assumption was that newer versions would be better programmed to figure out that they were on a Fire and to stop working. Just like any kind of copy-protection. So that only older or 'adjusted' versions would work.
So I just loaded it up on my phone. First screen- permissions. Asks for camera, mic, other stuff, I forget what exactly. But I clicked 'don't ask again' and "Deny". The app says something about 'won't be able to save games without storage permissions'. Ok, fine for now, whatever.
Then, yes, Google Play does prompt me to create a Gamer ID (A google play account, I suppose.) My options are 'learn more' and 'Next'. This I've seen other apps do, sometime pretty insistently. But this time I can simply back out of it (The android back button on the phone). And this sends me straight to the game. The game opens, etc.
It does look like there are saved games (bookmarks). I can go back and play with the storage permissions (on my phone, at least.)
Many games will prompt to create a gamer ID. Some can be quite naggy. But at some point I can always back out and continue without.
Does that help at all? I kinda get that we're coming to the end of the road...
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You might want to start a separate thread asking about the Google Play Games error. I am not that technically savvy but I decided to create an account and pay it forward since the other outdated thread which showed how to install Google Play Music pointed me in the right direction. I noticed that most people just needed the Play Store, so I basically cut the steps to make it easier and showed them where to always get the most up to date version.
This thread almost got you there, so maybe like Google Play Music, someone will be able to chime in.
THIS MIGHT HELP but again I am no expert and just speculating.
The Google Play Music Tutorial which I linked to on my first post had two extra steps which allowed you to log in with your Google Account credentials.
Maybe that login is what you need here to fool it and bypass the error.
So maybe try on the same APK site installing Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager
allusernamestaken said:
You might want to start a separate thread asking about the Google Play Games error....So maybe try on the same APK site installing Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager
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Ok, that sounds like a plan. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
Rx
it works but not 100% - teamviewer but not youtube.tv --- really need a solution swtched from directvnow to youtube.tv and it only works on chromecast and phones.
Got it working
Success after some trial and error: My intention was to get Minecraft working on the FireStick since the Amazon version has no joystick support. So I bought version 1.2.8.0 from Google Play Store for $7 (downloaded and installed to Android compatible device), used SDMaid to backup the .apk file and then sideloaded it to the Firestick using ESExplorer over my network (there are dozens of ways to get the .apk file and sideload it to the FireStick). I then dowloaded the exact versions of Google packages from this tutorial https://flixed.io/install-google-play-fire-tv-stick/
*I tried the newest versions and they do not work (as has been experienced in this thread), it has to be the older packages, regardless if the minimum API matches the Fire OS SDK 22 or whatever.
Again, there are dozens of ways to download the Google packages from apkmirror.com and install them to your Fire TV (no mystery).
Google Play version of MincraftPE 1.2.8.0 working with generic PS3 style bluetooth controller on Fire TV Stick 2 FireOS 5.2.6.1:fingers-crossed:
I have had an Android headset in my Skoda Superb since March 2021, purchased off Amazon and branded "Vanku". It has 64Gb memory and is running Android 10. For 12 months it worked fine, but since May it has started crashing a couple of popular apps on opening; and these are the main ones that I really need in the car: Waze for GPS navigation, and Audible so I can listen to audiobooks on the move. I use my Samsung mobile as the hotspot for connecting the headset to WiFi, and my other apps (e.g., Sygic and Google Maps) work fine.
After countless resets to factory settings and reinstalls of the apps Waze and Audible, they work for a short time and then they crash on opening. Would anybody be able to throw any light on why this is happening?
Thank you in anticipation.
john080347 said:
I have had an Android headset in my Skoda Superb since March 2021, purchased off Amazon and branded "Vanku". It has 64Gb memory and is running Android 10. For 12 months it worked fine, but since May it has started crashing a couple of popular apps on opening; and these are the main ones that I really need in the car: Waze for GPS navigation, and Audible so I can listen to audiobooks on the move. I use my Samsung mobile as the hotspot for connecting the headset to WiFi, and my other apps (e.g., Sygic and Google Maps) work fine.
After countless resets to factory settings and reinstalls of the apps Waze and Audible, they work for a short time and then they crash on opening. Would anybody be able to throw any light on why this is happening?
Thank you in anticipation.
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If you would add the required information, there could be someone to help...
Picture of the "About tablet" wihich shows the MCU and firmware.
Thanks for the reply, but is there an attachment to your message? I can't see what required information is needed!
Hello, if your unit is MTCD/E, then the last update of android system webview and chrome is causing the app crashes, please uninstall and disable these updates, then restart radiation and ignore any requests for updates.
john080347 said:
Thanks for the reply, but is there an attachment to your message? I can't see what required information is needed!
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You need to attach the picture or at least the information I ask for:
MCU
Firmware
These information you can find in "About Tablet in the settings menu.
Thank you very much Pavel and Rigattoni, your help is really appreciated. I disabled the Android Webview after a forced stop, and one of apps that previously crashed was working OK; but not all. So I have preformed another factory reset and reinstalled all my apps, and will make sure that Android webview is disabled.
Attached are two photos of the "about" page BEFORE the reset, with the information required:
MCU version - MTCE_HT_V3.53_1, etc.
Thanks again,
John
You have MTCE, I identified the problem well:
Open Settings
Tap Applications.
Click Android System WebView.
Tap more options (three dots)
Tap Uninstall updates.
Turn off automatic updates in Google Play.
Restart the device Ignore any requests for Webview and Chrome updates.
Do the same with Chrome.
A factory reset is useless, a firmware update would help, but I haven't found one that solves this problem yet. Try writing to the seller, maybe he has it.
Pavel-71 said:
You have MTCE, I identified the problem well:
Open Settings
Tap Applications.
Click Android System WebView.
Tap more options (three dots)
Tap Uninstall updates.
Turn off automatic updates in Google Play.
Restart the device Ignore any requests for Webview and Chrome updates.
Do the same with Chrome.
A factory reset is useless, a firmware update would help, but I haven't found one that solves this problem yet. Try writing to the seller, maybe he has it.
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I asked exactly for the MCU and firmware, as Vanku also sells some units with CSN2 MCU. In this case we would need to dive deeper. But your guess was right. These Vanku with PX6 have a severe issue with Webview... same as some others.
Thank you Pavel, I have noted your instructions and checked my headset. However, since the reset of the headset, "Android Webview" does not appear in the list of apps in Settings; so I have disabled updates in Google Play, and will ignore any updates apart from the apps installed by myself.
So far so good, everything is working fine now; the help from you and Rigattoni is really appreciated!
Hello all,
I've just got an Android unbranded tablet for my car (BMW E82) yesterday.
It's a 10.25 touch screen with Android 10.
Under System Information, I can read: version HY: V2.32.4core.201113.
I can enter to factory settings via 8888 code.
It came with Zlink already installed, and I could make it work perfectly yesterday with my iphone & wireless carplay.
(I can't remember actually if it was Zlink or Zlink5 but it worked good).
Today, I mistakenly cliked on reset to factory, and after the headunit rebooted, the Zlink app is not present anymore.
I am struggling to get it back...
I have found some Zlink apk files in forums, but none worked for me.
Does anyone know if it's pre-installed somewhere on the head unit, and I just need to enable it ?
Or should I install it with an apk file ?
Thank you in advance,
alec0178 said:
Hello all,
I've just got an Android unbranded tablet for my car (BMW E82) yesterday.
It's a 10.25 touch screen with Android 10.
Under System Information, I can read: version HY: V2.32.4core.201113.
I can enter to factory settings via 8888 code.
It came with Zlink already installed, and I could make it work perfectly yesterday with my iphone & wireless carplay.
(I can't remember actually if it was Zlink or Zlink5 but it worked good).
Today, I mistakenly cliked on reset to factory, and after the headunit rebooted, the Zlink app is not present anymore.
I am struggling to get it back...
The Zlink app that I have found in Play Store asks for an activation... Which seems to not be free.
Does anyone know if it's pre-installed somewhere on the head unit, and I just need to enable it ?
Or should I install it with an apk file ?
Thank you in advance,
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i think you can find it in settings then in factory settings it might your factory setting have password 1617 or 2010 try any one of this password. there you will find the option name feature settings in there find “phone connected” or something like this tick that option and you are ready to rock again.
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rooblevarn said:
i think you can find it in settings then in factory settings it might your factory setting have password 1617 or 2010 try any one of this password. there you will find the option name feature settings in there find “phone connected” or something like this tick that option and you are ready to rock again.
https://youtube.com/@rajuradios
do not forget to subscribe my channel if it helps you buddy
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Hi Rooblevarn,
Thank you for your reply.
I tried the 1617 and 2010 passwords, but they don't work on my Head unit.
The only password that worked for me so far it's 8888.
I can then get into a factory menu as shown in attached picture.
I have looked everywhere in those menus, but I can't find anythink similar to "phone connected".
I suppose that Zlink app was installed manually by the vendor before he sold me the head unit, and the only way for me to get Zlink back, is that the vendor send me the file that match this unit to be installed....
Problem is that I don't have vendor contact.
I've been in contact with one of the vendors of an Android 11 HU I recently purchased,
#1 - It's tough to communicate with them
( they are all in China, and it's clear they translate English using Google-T )
I don't know the specific build for your system, but Zlink is somehow tied into the entire Android Build Version which they custom build for each HEAD Unit.
I have provided two different files here. READ this carefully.
The file starting with:
gongban_92_Zlink - is the older version of Zlink. It may be less resource intensive, but it works similarly to the new Zlink5 version.
The file starting with:
gongban_F92XX_Zlink5 - is the newer version of Zlink ( or at least as new as it can get) ( This was given to me by the manufacturer's tech dept in March of 2023. )
The way I was told to install these is to:
- Save which ever one you want to install onto an empty USB stick.
- DO NOT change the name or the extension of the file.
- Plug in the USB stick
- Open Your App Drawer > Find Car Settings > Find System Information
- There could be a button on that System Information screen that says: Android Update ( This button was greyed out(unaccessible) until plugged in my USB drive.)
- You hit that button and wait for the update to finish. everything is automatic from that point.
- When successful you would notice a new Zlink app in your app drawer. It might even automatically launch after system reboots.
BEFORE YOU GO TRYING THESE STEPS THOUGH:
Understand that these apps are custom built to access bluetooth and Wifi functions of the Android system.
If they are not installed correctly they might
A: Not work at all
B: Brick your device
Here are some photos of the specs of my device and some screen shots of how the settings pages look and where you can find update options (given you have the right update files):
How old Zlink app looks:
How new Zlink5 apps looks:
Settings Page:
and finally ABOUT FACTORY SETTINGS and your app disappearing:
When you hit Factory Settings ( and get into the main screen:
You should see an option called APPS:
When you enter that there could be a screen with the header: XYZ apps
XYZ apps is a custom system settings app which forces apps to boot with the head unit, and never allows them to force quit. ( This app in not attainable on the app store - is what I mean by custom)
Before you go installing any updates or files, find the APPS section in factory settings and see if Zlink is on that list.
The list is "check-able" - like toggles or check marks
- If you see the app there and it is UNCHECKED then CHECK IT, go back a page and find Reboot.
Then see if you app appears again.
If you don't see it.. well.. that's beyond my understanding, but most likely you would need to install them through a USB port like I detailed above.
Weather or not MY attached files will be suitable for your system is a whole other question.
One other thing:
- I'm not a developer and I don't know how build versions work on Android and how each aspect of each function affects other aspects:
But it is clear that the Chinese devs who write these Android builds are forcing certain apps to run in the background.
Having said that.
NEVER connect your Android head unit to Wifi and use it to access Personal Information or store passwords.
These aren't ATT or Verizon head units. They are made by a foreign company who is most likely under the umbrella of laws and regulations which allow the military to snoop on customer data in the name of the motherland...
The only way I use my headunit, is for it's radio, and the Android Auto function for navigation.. (whenever Zlink isn't crashing)
I don't allow any internet connection to the unit as it is not necessary. As a driver all you need in a car is a map and some tunes.
alec0178 said:
Hi Rooblevarn,
Thank you for your reply.
I tried the 1617 and 2010 passwords, but they don't work on my Head unit.
The only password that worked for me so far it's 8888.
I can then get into a factory menu as shown in attached picture.
I have looked everywhere in those menus, but I can't find anythink similar to "phone connected".
I suppose that Zlink app was installed manually by the vendor before he sold me the head unit, and the only way for me to get Zlink back, is that the vendor send me the file that match this unit to be installed....
Problem is that I don't have vendor contact.
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no problem its just starting of my help you have not seen its end yet
try to download from here.
zLink App Download for Android
url.zjinnova.com
akm6p said:
I've been in contact with one of the vendors of an Android 11 HU I recently purchased,
#1 - It's tough to communicate with them
( they are all in China, and it's clear they translate English using Google-T )
I don't know the specific build for your system, but Zlink is somehow tied into the entire Android Build Version which they custom build for each HEAD Unit.
I have provided two different files here. READ this carefully.
The file starting with:
gongban_92_Zlink - is the older version of Zlink. It may be less resource intensive, but it works similarly to the new Zlink5 version.
The file starting with:
gongban_F92XX_Zlink5 - is the newer version of Zlink ( or at least as new as it can get) ( This was given to me by the manufacturer's tech dept in March of 2023. )
The way I was told to install these is to:
- Save which ever one you want to install onto an empty USB stick.
- DO NOT change the name or the extension of the file.
- Plug in the USB stick
- Open Your App Drawer > Find Car Settings > Find System Information
- There could be a button on that System Information screen that says: Android Update ( This button was greyed out(unaccessible) until plugged in my USB drive.)
- You hit that button and wait for the update to finish. everything is automatic from that point.
- When successful you would notice a new Zlink app in your app drawer. It might even automatically launch after system reboots.
BEFORE YOU GO TRYING THESE STEPS THOUGH:
Understand that these apps are custom built to access bluetooth and Wifi functions of the Android system.
If they are not installed correctly they might
A: Not work at all
B: Brick your device
Here are some photos of the specs of my device and some screen shots of how the settings pages look and where you can find update options (given you have the right update files):
How old Zlink app looks:
View attachment 5862517
How new Zlink5 apps looks:
View attachment 5862519
Settings Page:
View attachment 5862523
and finally ABOUT FACTORY SETTINGS and your app disappearing:
When you hit Factory Settings ( and get into the main screen:
You should see an option called APPS:
When you enter that there could be a screen with the header: XYZ apps
XYZ apps is a custom system settings app which forces apps to boot with the head unit, and never allows them to force quit. ( This app in not attainable on the app store - is what I mean by custom)
Before you go installing any updates or files, find the APPS section in factory settings and see if Zlink is on that list.
The list is "check-able" - like toggles or check marks
- If you see the app there and it is UNCHECKED then CHECK IT, go back a page and find Reboot.
Then see if you app appears again.
If you don't see it.. well.. that's beyond my understanding, but most likely you would need to install them through a USB port like I detailed above.
Weather or not MY attached files will be suitable for your system is a whole other question.
One other thing:
- I'm not a developer and I don't know how build versions work on Android and how each aspect of each function affects other aspects:
But it is clear that the Chinese devs who write these Android builds are forcing certain apps to run in the background.
Having said that.
NEVER connect your Android head unit to Wifi and use it to access Personal Information or store passwords.
These aren't ATT or Verizon head units. They are made by a foreign company who is most likely under the umbrella of laws and regulations which allow the military to snoop on customer data in the name of the motherland...
The only way I use my headunit, is for it's radio, and the Android Auto function for navigation.. (whenever Zlink isn't crashing)
I don't allow any internet connection to the unit as it is not necessary. As a driver all you need in a car is a map and some tunes.
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Thank you for your reply ! It helps to understand a lot of things.
Well, today I went back to the (physical) shop where I initialy bought the device last week.
I told them that Zlink is no more available and to me, it's the most important feature on the tablet.
They tried to reapply a new Reset factory settings, expecting that Zlink will be back with that, but it wasn't back. As they couldn't find a solution, I asked to replace the HU.
At first, it was a 2/32 GB (Android 10), and they replaced it with another with 8/64GB (Android 11) from the same manufacturing (on the box I can read J-1018)
Wouah ! Now it makes all the difference !
The device is much faster, and now when I go to factory settings (with 8888), I can find there a menu, like the one you are mentionning, called in my device "Type selection" as seen in attached picture.
This menu was not present in the previous 2/32 GB device...
Now as per the seller, even if I hit on Reset factory settings, I will always have the ability to restore Zlink (which a built-in version, quite old as it is 3.8.8 but it does the job).
I think we could have found a solution on the 2/32 GB (Android 10) with the help of your files. But I don't have anymore the device, so can't test it.
I hope someone else from the forum with the same problem can test them, and reply back if they are helpful.
In all cases, I am happy that this issue occured on the first device, because thanks to that, I have now a 8/64 GB instead, and I can only recommend to anyone buying a new Android HU, to choose as minimum 4 or 8GB of RAM, and 64 or 128 GB for stock memory. It is the minimum nowadays.