Issue with running Xposed framework - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
I have read quite a bit about Xposed and the benefits of using it, and I would like to make use of apps like Amplify, Intelli3g etc which depend on Xposed framework. However, I am having issues with the Xposed installer. After it installs, it does not work as it says that "Xposed it not yet compatible with Android SDK version 23 or your processor architecture (armeabiv7a)." I have seen many people in this forum using the Xposed framework successfully on their MXP, and I wonder why I am having this issue.
Running a rooted stock Marshmallow ROM, with the latest version of squid kernel.
Love this phone and the battery life but I would like to make the most out of it by using Xposed. Hope someone can suggest a solution to this issue. I have attached a screenshot for reference. (I have enabled Amplify and tried it after rebooting too, but without success)

There is also a zip file you need to flash as well.
Check this link out: [OFFICIAL] Xposed for Lollipop/Marshmallow [Android 5.0/5.1/6.0, v80, 2016/02/02]
You'll need the latest arm-based sdk23 version - as I write this it's the xposed-v80-sdk23-arm.zip file.
What it looks like you've done is install just the apk - this lets you manage the modules, it's the zip file that's the actual xposed framework. After you flash it your modules should start working.

koimr said:
There is also a zip file you need to flash as well.
Check this link out: [OFFICIAL] Xposed for Lollipop/Marshmallow [Android 5.0/5.1/6.0, v80, 2016/02/02]
You'll need the latest arm-based sdk23 version - as I write this it's the xposed-v80-sdk23-arm.zip file.
What it looks like you've done is install just the apk - this lets you manage the modules, it's the zip file that's the actual xposed framework. After you flash it your modules should start working.
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Oh yes, that is exactly what I have done, only install the apk. Thank you for that information, I will try it and hopefully it should work now.

Update: Still having the same issue after flashing. When I try to enable the Amplify module, I get the message that the Xposed framework is not installed yet. This is after I flashed the zip and installed the apk. Any solutions?

You probably disregarded the console output of the flash, which told you it was unsuccessful. You probably need to do a factory wipe before xposed installs properly.

Open the xposed installer and click the "Framework" button. You might have to then click the "Install/Update" button at the top.
If that doesn't help, reflash the zip and see what error message is displayed.

AtomicStryker said:
You probably disregarded the console output of the flash, which told you it was unsuccessful. You probably need to do a factory wipe before xposed installs properly.
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Arrgh not another factory reset anyway I'll try reflashing it, hope it works.

I wouldn't be in a rush to install xposed just yet bud. I had it running on my mxp for about 2 weeks with just GB and YouTube adaway, and noticed up to 50 percent more battery drain. Uninstalled and back to normal. Maybe that's no big deal for u, but it is still in the alpha stages afaik so expect to make compromises

blankingblank said:
I wouldn't be in a rush to install xposed just yet bud. I had it running on my mxp for about 2 weeks with just GB and YouTube adaway, and noticed up to 50 percent more battery drain. Uninstalled and back to normal. Maybe that's no big deal for u, but it is still in the alpha stages afaik so expect to make compromises
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Xposed is just the framework, it's the modules that do the actual work so it's not fair to blame xposed as a whole. For example, I am sure there's many GB options that could affect battery life although I'm using it without any battery issues.

To be honest, it's not like I'm missing Xposed much, I'm managing pretty well so far. So I will probably try to fix this problem later.

koimr said:
Xposed is just the framework, it's the modules that do the actual work so it's not fair to blame xposed as a whole. For example, I am sure there's many GB options that could affect battery life although I'm using it without any battery issues.
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Well admittedly I'm no dev but that's some black and white logic. Xposed works or it doesn't and the degree to which it does rests completely with the module devs? I realize that ur unlikely to experience drain if u have just the framework and no modules installed, but who would do that? The way the modules work depends on the way the framework interacts with the rest of the system... It would have to. I call shenanigans on anyone who says they experience the same battery life with or without GB installed on marshmallow. U would tell people that u can experience 0 drain with circle battery and slimkat location tile ticked, but the moment u move the clock to the center ur battery life gets chopped in half? C'mon....

blankingblank said:
Well admittedly I'm no dev but that's some black and white logic. Xposed works or it doesn't and the degree to which it does rests completely with the module devs? I realize that ur unlikely to experience drain if u have just the framework and no modules installed, but who would do that? The way the modules work depends on the way the framework interacts with the rest of the system...
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I'll repeat what I wrote: "Xposed is just the framework, it's the modules that do the actual work so it's not fair to blame xposed as a whole. For example, I am sure there's many GB options that could affect battery life although I'm using it without any battery issues."
The xposed framework does nothing but provide a series of "hooks" into Android where module devs can override or add to what Android would normally do (not entirely accurate but this is a VERY simplified explanation).
The "black and white logic" would be you blaming xposed as a whole when it seems you had a problem with GravityBox. I even said there could be GB options that might affect battery life. There's quite a few more modules than just GB available and unless you've tested them all my point remains valid.
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It would have to. I call shenanigans on anyone who says they experience the same battery life with or without GB installed on marshmallow.
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That's absolutely your right but since we're sharing anecdotal evidence stories, here's mine: with xposed installed (with GB) I get 0.3-0.4%/hour battery drain overnight (according to Better Battery Stats) so I'm pretty happy - this is with Amplify (another xposed module) and Greenify's xposed module installed as well, on Marshmallux with squid's kernel. Call shenanigans if you want. <shrug>
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U would tell people that u can experience 0 drain with circle battery and slimkat location tile ticked, but the moment u move the clock to the center ur battery life gets chopped in half? C'mon....
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I didn't say either of those things. I didn't even mention those things.

No need to repost...I read it the first time. Honestly dude, no one is "blaming" anyone's work here so u can stop tossing that word around. What I'm saying is that those "hooks into Android" u mentioned can be implemented in different ways and any layer a module dev adds on top of those "hooks" relies completely on the symbiosis of the framework and the core operating system. There's a reason these things have testing builds. To say otherwise would be like saying that huge lollipop memory leak was all the launcher's fault. Getting a million app redraws? It's ur launcher. Can't be anything else cuz my phone works, duh. Never understood this fanboy mentality of pretending everything's working great just because it isn't stock? Kinda like shutting off half ur background services then claiming gravity box causes no drain whatsoever... Like u would even notice with that setup. I bet ur deodexed stock rom makes ur phone run licketysplit too don't it? Nevermind benchmarks lol THEY'RE USELESS

blankingblank said:
No need to repost...I read it the first time. Honestly dude, no one is "blaming" anyone's work here so u can stop tossing that word around. What I'm saying is that those "hooks into Android" u mentioned can be implemented in different ways and any layer a module dev adds on top of those "hooks" relies completely on the symbiosis of the framework and the core operating system. There's a reason these things have testing builds. To say otherwise would be like saying that huge lollipop memory leak was all the launcher's fault. Getting a million app redraws? It's ur launcher. Can't be anything else cuz my phone works, duh. Never understood this fanboy mentality of pretending everything's working great just because it isn't stock? Kinda like shutting off half ur background services then claiming gravity box causes no drain whatsoever... Like u would even notice with that setup. I bet ur deodexed stock rom makes ur phone run licketysplit too don't it? Nevermind benchmarks lol THEY'RE USELESS
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Um. I am thinking now you must have confused me with someone else as I've never made any of those claims nor the previous one about moving the clock around, at all, ever. If you do feel I've said these things then I don't know what to tell you, I'd love to see where. I doubt my disagreeing with you about how xposed works would turn into pulling these out of thin air.
I'll just leave it at that then as I don't want to derail this thread any further and I won't be responding anymore. Have at it, if you feel you must.
My apologies to the OP.

koimr said:
Um. I am thinking now you must have confused me with someone else as I've never made any of those claims nor the previous one about moving the clock around, at all, ever. If you do feel I've said these things then I don't know what to tell you, I'd love to see where. I doubt my disagreeing with you about how xposed works would turn into pulling these out of thin air.
I'll just leave it at that then as I don't want to derail this thread any further and I won't be responding anymore. Have at it, if you feel you must.
My apologies to the OP.
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Figurative terms bud, that's all. Never said u said any of those things. Figurative terms used to dispute the suggestion that maybe the specific GB settings I had enabled had caused the drain I experienced.
OP was having trouble installing xposed and I thought my experience with it would be relevant to the thread. Xposed affecting battery life on marshmallow is an issue that has affected many users other than myself, and ur quick dismissal of it using questionable logic, in my view, warranted a rebuttal. If ur still unclear, I don't know what else to say...

varunadi said:
To be honest, it's not like I'm missing Xposed much, I'm managing pretty well so far. So I will probably try to fix this problem later.
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Flash this one instead - xposed-v79-sdk23-arm.zip

I'm having this issue on Moto X Play (6.0 MM): phone refuses to fully reboot sometimes, and get stuck in bootanimation. It usually takes repeated tries of long pressing the power button while boot stuck, until it finally boots "normally". I can't tell for sure if that's Xposed related or some specific module causing the issue; but looking into boot log provided by LiveBoot app I've found some interesting "ESOC framework not supported" lines in there (sounds not good to me). Doe's anyone had experienced this? Here's a copy of such logs...

Related

Life without dalvik, living without xposed

I recently switched to art when my rom, liquidsmooth, released 4.4.4. I just wanted to give it a try for a few days just to see how things ran. Well soon after, I hear the next version of Android will do away with dalvik so I decided to make the switch permanent. My only struggle so far has been replacing the features xposed and the 15 modules i was using. I would like to know if there are others out there having similar struggles or if anyone has given thought to soon not having xposed.
Here's some of the things I've either been able to replace or haven't found an alternative :
* Using app launcher in gravity box assigned to a new softkey for quick access to dialer, sms, etc.
** replaced with sidecontrol
* greenify.
** tried it without xposed features, ended up with uucleaner. Not sure which I prefer
* disable location consent
** stuck dealing with it
* ad blocking (used a couple of modules)
** using adfree now. Not as happy. Seems to break a lot of sites/app functions. Maybe i just haven't gotten it completely configured right.
* being able to keep the navbar shown in full screen mode
** I'm no longer using fs mode. Would like to though.
Luckily my rom includes many of the features from xposed modules. A lot of rom devs have removed these from there roms with the thought that people could install them if they wanted via xposed. I wonder if the same thought process still applies. Maybe xposed will be enhanced to work with art, but what if it can't?
Crappalinks, it's awesome. Has anyone found an alternative? It disables the Tapatalk redirection in external links that seems to delay link handling as they get passed through Tapatalk's server first.
can't live without xposed, specifically gravity box. also, couldn't find a replacement for disabling the pesky location consent. hopefully, the devs will bring art support to xposed sooner than later.
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Kravguy Is ART Runtime Significantly Faster than Dalvik ?
or is it just a minor speed boost in launching apps?
The developers of Xposed have already said that they will work on an ART compatible version once Android L is officially released.
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Kravguy Is ART Runtime Significantly Faster than Dalvik ?
or is it just a minor speed boost in launching apps?
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For the most part, no. I've seen a bit of battery savings, but nothing significant. My main reason for switching was to prepare for the next version of Android. Flashing rom updates is a royal pain now cause it takes forever to optimize first boot. Hoping that will improve.
kravguy said:
I recently switched to art when my rom, liquidsmooth, released 4.4.4. I just wanted to give it a try for a few days just to see how things ran. Well soon after, I hear the next version of Android will do away with dalvik so I decided to make the switch permanent. My only struggle so far has been replacing the features xposed and the 15 modules i was using. I would like to know if there are others out there having similar struggles or if anyone has given thought to soon not having xposed.
Here's some of the things I've either been able to replace or haven't found an alternative :
* Using app launcher in gravity box assigned to a new softkey for quick access to dialer, sms, etc.
** replaced with sidecontrol
* greenify.
** tried it without xposed features, ended up with uucleaner. Not sure which I prefer
* disable location consent
** stuck dealing with it
* ad blocking (used a couple of modules)
** using adfree now. Not as happy. Seems to break a lot of sites/app functions. Maybe i just haven't gotten it completely configured right.
* being able to keep the navbar shown in full screen mode
** I'm no longer using fs mode. Would like to though.
Luckily my rom includes many of the features from xposed modules. A lot of rom devs have removed these from there roms with the thought that people could install them if they wanted via xposed. I wonder if the same thought process still applies. Maybe xposed will be enhanced to work with art, but what if it can't?
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For the feature to disable location consent does app ops from the play store work for you ?
I use this to disable apps getting access to my location
Hope this helps
I still want access on, it's just the popup confirmation every time location is turned on.
Same struggling here but i choose gpe rom, aosp audio is kinda weird, sounds like an iPhone to me
kopeko said:
Same struggling here but i choose gpe rom, aosp audio is kinda weird, sounds like an iPhone to me
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Agree, camera and sound are the 2 pieces of sense that aosp has never been able to match. With viper4android, I can get close with sound, but still not as good.
kravguy said:
Agree, camera and sound are the 2 pieces of sense that aosp has never been able to match. With viper4android, I can get close with sound, but still not as good.
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This is due to the nature of open source drivers versus the closed sourced ones HTC uses for the hardware. It will never match and the OEM ones will always be better

Now that I have root, what should I do?

I followed all the instructions and installed CWM recovery, and then installed su and now I have root. It was pretty easy. There is some loss of quality of the camera but I can live with it for now.
What are the suggested modifications now? The main thing I would like to do is purge all the stupid spyware / adware apps on this. What is recommended?
I am hoping there will soon be a CM install for this so I can truly get rid of all the Sony junkware.
Not sure but can you keep us posted on your battery life after installing a custom rom, curious to know if the stock rom has some special battery efficiencies.
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Toughdroid said:
I followed all the instructions and installed CWM recovery, and then installed su and now I have root. It was pretty easy. There is some loss of quality of the camera but I can live with it for now.
What are the suggested modifications now? The main thing I would like to do is purge all the stupid spyware / adware apps on this. What is recommended?
I am hoping there will soon be a CM install for this so I can truly get rid of all the Sony junkware.
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I'll tell you what I did:
uninstall all sony bloatware, expecially that antivirus app...
install xposed framework
install titanium backup
Now I'm just waiting for CM or whatever rom
Do you have a list of package names I should nuke? I can't quite match up all the package names with the evilware.
I'm looking at the crazy permissions some of these apps have. Weather Widget can read my call log! wtf!
Thanks
Well, you sure don't want to take a bunch of low-light pictures....
Xposed Modules
There should be am exposed module who can do this for you, it should be called set permissions or something like that... I personally deleted everything from Sony, I use 3rd party apps for weather, calendar and so on... But this is personal taste I just prefer to use the phone for its hardware, not for the Sony brand
Install gesture control and permanently disable the nav bar. That's what I would do gestures are the best way to control a touch device IMHO.
Install Greenify to enhance your battery life. Install Adaway to get rid of ads system wide. Use Tasker to automatically enable/disable pattern unlock based on your location (ie home or not) and also automate the phone putting itself in flight mode when you charge at night.
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Toughdroid said:
I followed all the instructions and installed CWM recovery, and then installed su and now I have root. It was pretty easy. There is some loss of quality of the camera but I can live with it for now.
What are the suggested modifications now? The main thing I would like to do is purge all the stupid spyware / adware apps on this. What is recommended?
I am hoping there will soon be a CM install for this so I can truly get rid of all the Sony junkware.
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I can't wait to install Xposed framework. I can't live without "vibrate on answer", long press tile to go to setting, camera shutter mute, Wanam's Youtube ad-remover, and most importantly GEM Xperia module to hide unwanted apps. Some root apps like Titanium backup, Samba droid, SSH droid, Greenify etc. Fingers crossed for a root exploit.
If you do not really know what to do with root, then I'd really question whether damaging your device is worth it.
This phone is super powerful and the "bloatware" doesn't affect performance - certainly from my user perspective. Just use apex or nova and hide the apps you don't want to see.
TBH, as much as I love tinkering around with my phones, the need for root (as opposed to it being nice to have it) is diminishing as android develops.
Will root for titanium but not much. sony has the battery management that can compare with greenify.
machatta said:
If you do not really know what to do with root, then I'd really question whether damaging your device is worth it.
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I'm hoping to use CM as soon as its available.
machatta said:
This phone is super powerful and the "bloatware" doesn't affect performance - certainly from my user perspective. Just use apex or nova and hide the apps you don't want to see.
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The bloatware is also spyware, and that I do not like.
machatta said:
TBH, as much as I love tinkering around with my phones, the need for root (as opposed to it being nice to have it) is diminishing as android develops.
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My big thing is I want all the spyware to be gone, and I basically do not trust any carrier / manufacturer builds.
Btw the camera is very good, even post-rooting. And battery life is really amazing. I ordered the magnetic charger, and I can probably wait to charge my phone until the new charger arrives. It seems like this phone could go for several days pretty easily. I'm impressed.

Who's going to miss using Xposed on Lollipop?

Are you waiting out on updating for next weeks Tmobile update? At this current moment, w/ Xposed 3.0 Alpha3, we still don't know if we will ever get support (as the dev said). I currently have the phone setup pretty much dependent on Xposed. Not sure how I will setup the phone again without some of the stuff Xposed has to offer.
List of modules:
Complete Action Plus - Used because Samsung's Complete Action feature is a bit gimmickly and this one allows you to properly setup which apps you want by default.
GravityBox - This is used because I want to change/remap my "recent key" to "menu" instead.
Greenify - no need to explain
Network Speed Indicator is perfect for the Notification Box. Yes this can be replaced.
PerAppFonts - Used to change the apps in my chat app... No replacement w/out Xposed
Samsung Camera Fix - Now I can launch Quickpic directly from Camera App
Screen Filter - Used with tasker to kill bluescreen that hurts your eyes
Secure Setting - Paired w/ Tasker since it can control GPS, Radios, Power Saving, and etc
Wanam - too many functions here
XHangouts - To edit Hangout settings
Youtube Adaway - blocks youtube ads
YourTube - Used for automatically selecting 4k stream and changing display menu at launch of Youtube App
God I wish this list wasn't so long that I became dependent.
Nope. I bought the device because I liked it. Not because I liked it and it could run xposed.
MajorTom_ said:
Nope. I bought the device because I liked it. Not because I liked it and it could run xposed.
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I've been using this phone since launch. What i'm trying to say is... will you be holding out on the Lollipop update because Xposed isn't supported..
Dont think anyone will miss it really. You can always go back to kitkat and use xpose so it is not really a thing to "miss"
That is the joy of choices...new update because it got pretty colors and new lockscreen/notification settings? or stay with the old that does EVERYTHING you require from it?
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Dont think anyone will miss it really. You can always go back to kitkat and use xpose so it is not really a thing to "miss"
That is the joy of choices...new update because it got pretty colors and new lockscreen/notification settings? or stay with the old that does EVERYTHING you require from it?
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LOL hard choices!
twe90kid said:
LOL hard choices!
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You have to remember...we have several developers who are not lazy to actually modify the roms...check out some of the few lollipop roms laying to see what i mean if you haven't already ...granted, they do not do any of what you listed LMAO!
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I've been using this phone since launch. What i'm trying to say is... will you be holding out on the Lollipop update because Xposed isn't supported..
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No need to hold out. Xposed is a luxury to me.
mgbotoe said:
You have to remember...we have several developers who are not lazy to actually modify the roms...check out some of the few lollipop roms laying to see what i mean if you haven't already ...granted, they do not do any of what you listed LMAO!
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I've already tried one and flashed back to kitkat.
I'm trying to see if there's replacements to kill off that xposed list.
Not me. Never used it and don't think I ever will
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Actually most of those mods have been manually added into some Lollipop Roms already. So no I won't miss xposed. It's better to have it as a built in for stability purposes
VeNuMuS said:
Actually most of those mods have been manually added into some Lollipop Roms already. So no I won't miss xposed. It's better to have it as a built in for stability purposes
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I just flashed to Lollipop TEKXodus N4 URv1.6
One thing that I use is Greenify GCM push. Seems like you can't use GCM push when Xposed doesn't work.
The only thing I really care about is YouTube adaway and mw manager. I hate youtube ads, and I love that I can shrink any app by sliding from the corner.
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without Xprivacy, the android ecosystem is useless to me personally.
without the ability to keep my data, MY data, I would rather go get a iphone.
I do wish another option was available, a ton of usable mods are being hampered due to one add on (albeit a major one)
certainly not complaining since I can't code, Ill just stick with 4.4.4 and wait.
What about if you update and install dual Boot and run cm12 in the second ROM with xposed and that's it!!
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Actually most of those mods have been manually added into some Lollipop Roms already. So no I won't miss xposed. It's better to have it as a built in for stability purposes
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Thanks buddy, very good to know Regarding stability, no question that your statement is fact. Shines some bright light on this news, posted by @rovo89 today along with news of a new LP alpha...
Regarding Samsung ROMs: No progress. No ETA. No promise that it will be supported, although I don't exclude it either. It's simply unclear what further differences between their and AOSP's ART variant come up.
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I will personally miss the ability to use Xposed mainly due to the vast amount of customization options that it offers to users. While it is certainly preferable that various mods are baked into ROMs, there are some incredibly powerful modules that either can't or are highly unlikely to be included in any custom ROMs. I decided to go through the modules that I'm using and (attempt) to evaluate the likelihood/possibility that their effects could/would be included in a custom ROM (or replicated by non-xposed dependent apps). Here's my take, would love to hear the thoughts of others :good:
Amplify: Surely. Most ROMs improve battery life vs. stock anyway. Wakelocks/services/alarms can be "tamed" by other means.
CPU Freq in Statusbar: Maybe not in the statusbar, but Dynamic (Kat at least, have yet to try Pop) has it as well as the CPU gov in the notification panel. Better than "good enough"
Coolify: A newer module that I don't think many people are aware of... but absolutely should be! Giving it a look in the Play store will give you a better idea of what it does than a brief description. Really a fantastic app/module... frequently updated and each new version works better than the last! I also like that it shows the battery temp in the status bar. If I were crazy greedy, would prefer that it showed CPU core 0 temp, but I'm not, so happy to keep an eye on the battery I doubt that the full effect would be implemented in a ROM, but I'd think that it could be to some degree.
Greenify: Similar effect built into a ROM? Sounds like a TON of work... will be missed.
No lock home: Was very happy to learn that this is built into LP itself... good call!
PlayPermissionsXposed: A module I consider quite important but wouldn't expect to see it in a ROM. AppOps (already baked into ROMs) is far more useful though anyway.
UnbelovedHosts (paid version): Similar to AdAway, and KILLER as an addition to it. It's very rare that I see an ad of any kind on my phone. The unlock key allows to blocked hosts lists to be auto-updated. Will be missed.
Unicon: Purely cosmetic but I love this module. IMO it's the ultimate "UI consistency" tool. Along with my icon pack of choice (Velur, hands down) my (Nova Prime backed) UI looks... appealing Too "specialized" to be baked into a ROM I would imagine. Will really miss this one.
Xposed Additions (pro): Please tell me that there are LP ROMS that enable key remapping... PLEASE! (Can't handle menu key = recents. It's WRONG I tells ya! WRONG!!!)
XuiMod: Another strictly cosmetic effect, but SO SWEET! Allows you to use animations from various ROMs, so.... yeah.
Huge thanks @VeNuMuS for allowing me to view to inability to use Xposed in a different light. LP, here I come :good:
@jazzmachine
Not having Greenify paid options is going to suck bad. Especially GCM push
If you guys miss Screen Filter you could always download Twighlight from the play store
I do not plan on moving off my current setup until/if Xposed is fully up & functional with TouchWiz & Lollipop.
Unless T-Mobile is making Lollipop make my phone have secks w/ me... Nope, nah ah. Can't live without Xposed! :silly:
Don't use exposed. Don't see the value. Never have, never will
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jazzmachine said:
Xposed Additions (pro): Please tell me that there are LP ROMS that enable key remapping... PLEASE! (Can't handle menu key = recents. It's WRONG I tells
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Found out how to change this..
You can use Root Explorer:
Make sure you grant root and Mount R/W
Then go to /system/usr/keylayout
Modify file Generic.kl
Look for "Key 254"
Change it to Menu, Save, exit, and reboot.
Now I need to figure out how to change double press home to launch recent apps.

Worth rooting and using custom ROMs?

Hi,
My warranty is running out so I'm on the fence: look for a new phone or go the rooting and custom ROM path and continue using Note 4.
So as we have now MM and some updated apps, air command and other stuff is updated.. so what additional benefits custom ROM could give?
Speed? I do some gaming and can't complain that Note 4 is slow. It's really fast.
Disable more apps? That would be a benefit coz now not all apps can be disabled.
Remove quick connect buttons?
What else am I missing?
Launcher tweaks? But we use Nova. You don't need root for Nova
What else?
Thanks!!!
I'm using stock MM 6.0.1 (DPB1) and it's great. Still a fantastic phone for 2016 and really fast. I only root for Titanium Backup to freeze all the crap and to boost the headphone output level.
Only wish is for universal DPI adjustment as I can't be arsed messing about with xposed framework and the like but it's not a biggie.
You can root without installing a custom ROM and it takes literally 2 minutes.
What exactly do you freeze which cannot be disabled in Application Manager? And what benefits those freezed app give?
Will Greenify give any noticable battery life? As I understood Greenify needs root as well.
Here's a list of my disabled apps.
https://imgur.com/a/X0Zjv
What you freezed with tibackup?
For me the main reason for rooting is to be able to get the huge games I have downloaded over the years to all fit onto my ext SD card. I also enjoy the ability to use apps like Cerberus,, Greenify and SD Maid.... etc. to their absolute full potential.
I root phones because I want things the way I want them. For example I don't like the quick connect logos when I lower the screen to see any alerts. I also don't like how the phone warns me that the volume is getting loud. As if I don't know how.loud the phone is. Little thing like that drive me crazy. I root the phone so I can deal with those little announces like that.
If you have to ask whether its worth rooting or not, then I am not sure you are in the right place man. Said it plenty times before, saying it again, I don't really see the point of using Android without rooting, unless you need that KNOX thingy. Why? I can't even start to mention. Take AdAway for example, and that's the first step only of a journey of countless steps.
Custom ROMs on the other hand? If you see a really good dev, then yes, like Arya, or Omega etc., otherwise no comments.
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If you have to ask whether its worth rooting or not, then I am not sure you are in the right place man. Said it plenty times before, saying it again, I don't really see the point of using Android without rooting, unless you need that KNOX thingy.
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So if one isn't rooting, then one might as well use...what, an iOS device? That doesn't make sense to me. There are plenty of compelling reasons to use Android over alternate mobile OS'es, even if one is using unrooted Android. Even if one is using unrooted, unmodified, BAD skinned Android.
What exactly do you freeze which cannot be disabled in Application Manager? And what benefits those freezed app give?
I have 96 apps frozen. Mostly pre-installed crap and many system apps including all the wireless/remote/sharing stuff I don't need. You need to choose what's important to you but it makes a massive difference to battery life.
If you don't know what is rooting for, you should forget about it.
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I know what rooting is and I've used it in my previous phones (Nexus mainly) for many many things.
Why? Because Nexus didn't have all the features I needed.
And now Note 4 has battery optimization feature (so no need for Greenify), all those notification buttons, quick buttons, side buttons you name it (no custom rom is needed), basic backup function works to Samsung cloud (it partially covers tibackup) etc etc.
Well.. AdAway is a different thing.

Samsung Galaxy S5 G900W8 What Custom Roms Work

Hello I am new to custom roms
I am working with a Samsung Galaxy S5 G900W8 as a platform for learning
Can the experts here recommend some custom roms
I finally got one to work - however it seems to be for the TMobile version
The install worked - yet without wifi support
If people here please suggest a number of options to work through
I'm on the same phone as you. LineageOS works. I'm using Ressurection remix latest build KLTE. The KLTE bit is what you want for the roms. There are others I've tried but I end up back with the two I mentioned as they offer more functionality. Those are nougat. Tipsy Rom 6.0.1 works if you want marshmallow. So does the RR marshmallow rom. I've got twrp custom recovery installed. And magisk for root. Super user works as well but you won't pass safety net. So use magisk if you use android pay or play Pokemon go.
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Do the custom recovery first if you haven't already. I assume you have because you flashed a rom. If you are using Odin to flash them you are probably flashing stock. Don't do that. Not unless it's the stock for your device and you don't want to be on a custom rom
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You will need Odin to flash the recovery. You can root from the custom recovery. And you will flash roms from the custom recovery on the device.
https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxys5qualcomm.html
This will give you the files and info you need to use Odin to flash twrp. Lineage and RR have their own sites as well. Super easy to find. Just remember the KLTE. Download the rom right onto the device or put it on the SD card. Boot into recovery using power, home and volume up and go to the directory with the rom zip, select it and swipe to install. Don't dirty flash the rom, wipe the phone first. It will not delete the custom recovery. Once the rom is installed reboot. It will take a few minutes to load. You flash the superuser or magisk zip from the recovery as well. If you do superuser download the app from playing store. Magisk you can find on xda. After all that you are rooted and on a custom rom.
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You can use the recovery to create a backup of your phone too. Usually I'd recommend this but you already flashed a rom that's not working right anyway.
Security Updates for Samsung Galaxy S5 (Telus Canada SM-G900W8)
godkingofcanada said:
I'm on the same phone as you. LineageOS works. I'm using Ressurection remix latest build KLTE. The KLTE bit is what you want for the roms.
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Most roms based on Lineage[LOS] should work with any Snapdragon based S5[KLTE] LOS unified the roms a while ago. I use crdroid it has adaway built in super stable..
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I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S5 (Telus Canada SM-G900W8), and given the lack of support I'm looking at a custom ROM.
Can someone please tell me if any of the above ROMs are getting good security patches?
I believe that there are mitigation patches for the Krack WiFi and BlueBorne Bluetooth Vulnerabilities that were recently disclosed., but most phones will take a long time to get them, if ever.
Any suggestions/input is much appreciated.
SM-G900W8 Best ROM for Stability/Security/Usability?
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I prepher crdroid to RR but not sure if either have kept up with latest LOS changes but I know from Oct article LOS is patched blueboorne was before this.
https://www.xda-developers.com/future-lineageos-14-1-builds-safe-krack/
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Thanks Vortell for the reply, that article is very helpful. Based on your response I think I'll give crDroid a shot.
(Just curious - are you using an SM-G900W8?)
crDroid was on my radar, but when I went to the crDroid web site, and it didn't list the S5/SM-G900x as an officially supported device. I see from the link you provided below references to an up to date S5 crDroid ROM, so it looks like this should be a good mainstream choice.
Other than surfing through tons of (sometimes great and sometimes terrible) YouTube vids any suggestions as to a quick way for me to speed on the mainstream ROMs? Do I need to consider anything beyond LOS, RR and crDroid?
I don't know if something like it is baked in, but from what I've been reading I need to install something like Xposed/XPrivacy. Way too many apps ask for access to identiy, contacts, location and device control that they don't need for me to use the app, and that I don't want them to have. Denying permission is no good, because then the app will die. Other than Xposed/XPrivacy should I be looking at anything else?
My priorities are Security, Stability, Usability, and then Features and Speed. Don't need/want bleeding edge, and it things are working, I likely won't update unless there is a vulnerability that needs patching or a really killer feature I want/need.
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Since both are built off of LOS source code they use should be patched. Also you can make any kltevzw build work with your w8 with right changes to build prop and APN. If my memory serves me right. I think it has all been integrated and built into LOS for a long while though.
Ask the developers for each over at:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development
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Any suggestions as to how I can do this since I'm just a Noob without sufficient permissions to post in that forum?
(Just in case someone from the crDroid project sees it: Props on the really nice "banner page" ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development/rom-crdroid-t2860894 ) - very helpful. Suggestions: It would be helpful if there was a line about security/patches as well as a way for a user to quickly get up to speed on changes to know if they need to update. )
Thanks again/in advance for any comment, suggestions, or assistance
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Speed on mainstream rom? If you ment speed up, then there is only tuning the kernel or changing it. There is very limited support for extra kernels now. I think there might be a couple but you need to make sure they are compatible with los. You can also adjust the performance with kernel auditor. Lspeed it's another mod that had options like that. There maybe a bit more but once I got on crdroid my performance was fine. There other thing you can do is try to find updated drivers for the video card.
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Sorry, I guess there was a typo (or auto correction gone wild) I meant to say how can I get up to speed (meaning become informed) as to the differences between the major mainstream ROMs. As I said, as long as it's useable stability/security is much more important than speed. Thanks for the detailed info anyway.
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If you want paranoid level of control xprivacy is good otherwise privacy guard baked into all there if those is pretty damn good. Honestly if you don't have a Sunset device and are concedering using xprivacy for extra protection then you should really use gapps alternative. I forgot the frameworks name. It uses open scource and privacy minded services to avoid Google tracking. Then should only use simple app stores like xda or f-droid which has something called yalp if you want free stuff from Google. Otherwise privacy guard which will limit access to the things you mentioned is baked into all three you just have to turn it on in each. Crdroid has adaway built in if you add extra lists it really cuts down on ads. I also like viper4arise mod so I can increase volumes on my phone and change sounds processing on the fly. Then for the s5 there are volumes boast mods specifically because the mic is quiet.
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Thanks very much for this.... Yalp looks very interesting, I'll check into that further.
Is this the viper4arise sound mod you are talking about?
( https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/mic-volume-gain-mod-s5-t3491483 )
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Here are the extra lists I use for adaway:
http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/hosts
http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/hosts.txt
https://isc.sans.edu/feeds/suspiciousdomains_High.txt
https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/malwaredomains/justdomains
https://ransomwaretracker.abuse.ch/downloads/RW_DOMBL.txt
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/StevenBlack/hosts/master/hosts
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zant95/hosts/master/hosts
https://s3.amazonaws.com/lists.disconnect.me/simple_ad.txt
https://s3.amazonaws.com/lists.disconnect.me/simple_malvertising.txt
https://s3.amazonaws.com/lists.disconnect.me/simple_tracking.txt
https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=domainblocklist
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These are great - thanks. I run a pfSense firewall, and I use some of these on it. One question... is it possible to override list entries either temporary or permanently? I know I've had problems with my firewall breaking certain web pages. It's a real problem on those rare occasions when I really need access to a broken page. I put up with it because ad networks have been a vector for malware recently.
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As for exposed it's great and all but can lead to problems with substratum. It does work great with Crdroid and substratum for me using:bubble upnp, gravitybox. It didn't work though with rr on my note 4 with substratum. Someone reported it worked fine without substratum. Honestly the only reason I like it past what is baked into Crdroid though is to change status bar text colors. Rr allows a bit more statusbar customization to begin with though. I have also read rr is some what problematic on s5. It will however be very hard to get Android pay working on anything but touch wiz based 6.0.1 rom FYI because of safetynet. There is also was to get shealth working but that is very privacy invasive. Crdroid has g+ page if you want you ask them stuff directly. Either way back up your working rom. Sd cards are cheap now. You can always try more then 1. There is even was to use note then one rom on one phone. Read around a bit is kinda fun.
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Thanks for this.... Am I correct that Xposed that it's necessary for XPrivacy? If it's just for color changes, them I won't need it. I'm not worried too much about theme colors... as long as it's readable I'm fine.
As for Android Pay, good to know.... these phones are such security cess pits, that I'm not likely to use my phone for banking or payment of any kind for some time.
Thanks again... I can't tell you how much I appreciate the help.
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Xprivacy is great if you trust the school who made it and your that paranoid... At that point though you should be buying a new phone or learning to Port a more secure kernel then Linux. Or at least a security build of it. Outside that the kernel is going to be outdated to one degree or another.
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You raise some good points - and again TRUST is a big issue. I'm not sure that buying a new phone even solves the problem. Ultimately you have to trust somebody, and quite frankly a bunch of passionate hackers looking over each others shoulders is likely more trustworthy than a bunch of corporate scumbags trying to market/sell your personal information. The big manufacturers (Other than Google-and I don't like their phones because they don't have a removable SD Card) are historically poor with support.
Security is often an oversight because the market doesn't value it. (Although all the high profile hacks that have occurred may change things.) "Secure" phones are such a limited market that they are hard to get, have poor support, and are obscenely expensive.
Anyway that's enough philosophy/ranting.
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The least secure part of most Androids is the Google framework though. I use xprivacy on older devices because it's the only reliable way to get control over permissions. The problem is there is to much for less advanced users. Some permissions look invasive but it's just the way Google put the os together. Like phone access is there even if it's just to pause sound for incoming call.
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You raise a very good point about the underlying design. Do I understand correctly that the permission that allows pausing the sound for an incoming call will also allow an application to make a call?! If so that's totally crazy. Again back to my comment about corporate scum bags. Google sells advertising/data services, and they are going to set up the design to be as exploitative as they can get away with. If their system was secure/privacy oriented a lot of the ecosystem would disappear.
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Anyways what I was talking about was gravitybox which I feel outside of Android 4 x is the best Xposed mod. In Android 4.x it's app settings and xprivacy for the permission control.
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I had a quick look.... gravitybox while allowing many interesting customizations doesn't seem to deal with permissions - or did I miss something?
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Honestly adaway is like a firewall though it's linked to domain rather then port. No firewall should use lists like that. They should close off ports unless connections originate from you. Adaway uses an old school method of using what's called a host file to redirect the request to your own phone with no http service at they address set up there are also pretty services thought your own phone that so this aka blockad and dns66 but they use extra services so it's a tiny bit less per effective. All 3 are easy to turn off.
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As I said, I run a system very similar to that on my pfSense firewall (pfBlokerNG) to limit the ad networks as an infection vector. My firewall does all the DNS and NTP for my system to somewhat restrict the number of endpoints my system is communicating with. As I discover restrictions that are too problematical I reluctantly override them or stop using the service that depends on them depending on the circumstances.
Vortell said:
If you care about privacy, get the German Firefox klar or Firefox focus for your browser.
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Thanks for this... Klar looks like a useful addition.
I'm less worried about ad tracking than spyware (unauthorised mic/camera/theft of data/passwords etc.), ransomware and permissions that allow my contacts and cell data to be stolen. I don't like to be accessible 24/7 anyway, so as long as the airplane mode actually works I make frequent use of it--the problem is that it may not work, and there is no way to tell since the cell radio is not easy to audit. I discovered questionable behaviour on my first android jellybean (way back in the day) by putting packet capture on the wifi. That was my first foray into modding.
Thanks again, and in advance for any assistance/advice/comments.

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