[DISCUSSION] Life after SGS6 (what's your next device?) - Galaxy S6 General

Well, now our device (Galaxy S6) have less than a year from his launch and we have a full idea how operates in all areas: talking about battery, display, camera, build quality, battery and software updates. But soon will come new devices with new features that will make our "Galaxy S6" a bit obsolete. I would like to know who will change your SGS6 for a new device in next months, considering the announcements coming.
In my case I'm a little upset with the battery. It drains fast and think that lack of software optimization is one of the causes, the good side is that it charges fast so this is a good point. Also design is a good point, at least for my, on the SGS6. When looking for another devices, as I said on another thread, I have some doubts with others manufacturers.
For example (all the comments are IMO and in comparison to my experience with the SGS6 and respective flagship devices):
Motorola, bad design, great software optimization, great software updates & battery, regular/bad camera quality.
LG, regular design & software UI, great software update, nice camera.
Sony, horrible UI, nice battery duration, regular SW optimization and updates, regular camera (including Z5 which only have more pixels but same quality as SGS6)
HTC, hmmm not.
Nexus devices, great SW & updates, regular add-ons (camera, battery, design, figerprint sensor, etc.)
OnePlus, Xiaomi and others manufacturers are just developing & getting better their products (at least faster than before)
iPhone, regular UI, excellent SW optimization, great SW updates policy (we all know why, one device), nice battery (on their Plus' versions), nice design even if it's repeated. Not android
Samsung, nice design, fast charging (others also have it), regular SW UI, regular/bad sofware update policy, horrible battery for a flagship, lack of SW optimization.
And you? What's your opinion?

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Definitely LG. Grown tired of Samsung for various reasons.

LG g5 is prob my first pick but going to wait a month after release to read reviews and such. If I don't like the reviews I'm going to switch to note 5.
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Z6.

I'll keep my S6 for the next couple of years, then I'm switching to iPhone. In 2 years I believe that battery tech will be upgraded, even on iPhone.

Lg g5 but after recent leak it's a meh! I'll probably stick with g6

The SM-G920F BTU (UK) has software dated September 2016. I've checked the exploits/bug list and there are several that are not fixed by Samsung.
That makes it more than four months of patches missing.
Add to that the Marshmallow debacle, the horrible communications and customer support regarding the update and this was my last Samsung device.
Next up for me will likely be a G4 (next week) until the successor of the V10 arrives, or the next Nexus phone this fall. The S6 is going on Ebay.

Next will most probably be an HTC. Great build quality, great updates, great software and mainly deep theme support. Once I've tasted the theme capability of the S6, it's hard to pick a device which doesn't have such deep customization and it's only HTC which does a similar thing. But not anytime soon though as my S6 is awesome. And for galaxy S series, I'm on even numbers. So S8 is more likely an option than S7

I'm thinking about Z5 or 1+2 64GB.

I'm Thinking the next nexus coming out is going to be my next phone.. Then i can sell this crap of a phone ^^.. I miss my Nexus 5, I still regret i bought the S6

SGS7

Nexus or iPhone, I wanna a updated software It's the fourth time with samsung (trying) and always have something to make me sad

andifds said:
Well, now our device (Galaxy S6) have less than a year from his launch and we have a full idea how operates in all areas: talking about battery, display, camera, build quality, battery and software updates. But soon will come new devices with new features that will make our "Galaxy S6" a bit obsolete. I would like to know who will change your SGS6 for a new device in next months, considering the announcements coming.
In my case I'm a little upset with the battery. It drains fast and think that lack of software optimization is one of the causes, the good side is that it charges fast so this is a good point. Also design is a good point, at least for my, on the SGS6. When looking for another devices, as I said on another thread, I have some doubts with others manufacturers.
For example (all the comments are IMO and in comparison to my experience with the SGS6 and respective flagship devices):
Motorola, bad design, great software optimization, great software updates & battery, regular/bad camera quality.
LG, regular design & software UI, great software update, nice camera.
Sony, horrible UI, nice battery duration, regular SW optimization and updates, regular camera (including Z5 which only have more pixels but same quality as SGS6)
HTC, hmmm not.
Nexus devices, great SW & updates, regular add-ons (camera, battery, design, figerprint sensor, etc.)
OnePlus, Xiaomi and others manufacturers are just developing & getting better their products (at least faster than before)
iPhone, regular UI, excellent SW optimization, great SW updates policy (we all know why, one device), nice battery (on their Plus' versions), nice design even if it's repeated. Not android
Samsung, nice design, fast charging (others also have it), regular SW UI, regular/bad sofware update policy, horrible battery for a flagship, lack of SW optimization.
And you? What's your opinion?
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Wait for the s7 edge it will have a massive battery
3600mAh that's confirmed

I wait for LG G5.
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I will stick with the S6 for a while .But if they come up with a nexus that has S6's display,camera and build quality then that will probably be my next phone .

Definitely i will not buy another samsung. Close source Exynos chip, some problems with reception, very slow updates (marshmallow update still not published for international version), average battery life, it was quite expensive (and s7 will be much more expensive). But the camera is very good...
Probably i will buy LG G5 or next Nexus with the Snapdragon 820 :laugh:
I forgot about Knox! No comment about it...

Will be getting the iPhone 7 when released
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I'll probably get another Galaxy S phone (7 or 8?). My preferences are:
Android OS
QHD resolution
LED screen
home button (capacitive or physical)
around 5" screen size.
Few phones meet all those.

HTC

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Upgrade Galaxy S6 for Oneplus 2?

So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
dzaster89 said:
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
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yeah, even with the COI9 build of the S6, Touchwiz is shiity due to some stutterting with it's UI. If only there would be a CM build for this lol
I'm really in the verge of getting the oneplus 2, but there is also a part of me choosing between the Nexus 6P. what do you think, disregarding the price?
Go for 6P if you don't need dual sim.
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shigi1231 said:
So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
dc82 said:
After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
shigi1231 said:
quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
xtachix said:
its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
shigi1231 said:
So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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The GS6 has one of the best camera's available on any phone today, but the OP2 isn't that far behind (with some software improvements it could potentially equal it). If you hate Touchwiz as much as I do, then trade it in. If you don't, then don't.. Because the GS6 is truly a fantastic device if you like a phone that just works. It's basically the iPhone of Android devices.
zaki67 said:
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
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If you can live without a fingerprint scanner for a while you should give Exodus a try. I cannot recommend it highly enough!
shigi1231 said:
quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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It's actually not unusual at all. Use literally any other current flagship phone and then go back to the OP2. Stock vs stock it's noticeable. I'd wait till the S6 gets marshmallow to make your determination if you can. Hardware-wise I think the S6 is better and that being the case, you can update software but you can't change hardware.
I hear there was a new update for the camera of the OP2 fixing the auto laser focus with filming videos
How's the display of the device? Is the 1080P LCD display not that farfetched from SUPERAMOLED?
Considering the SoCs of both Nexus 6P and OP2, do you think that the 64gb (with 4 gb of ram) would provide more RAW power than the nexus 6p?
I went from GS6 to a oneplus 2. I originally kept the GS6 and sold the Oneplus 2, but later changed my mind and bought a new Oneplus 2. (I don't understand all the whining about not being able to buy one!)
Here is why:
My main complaint regarding the OP2 is its size. The S6 is sleek and lightweight. When it comes to having one of the two in a pocket...I much prefer the size of the S6. But, phones aren't made for sitting in our pockets, are they? Also, I find the vibrating motor on the OP2 is lower quality than the one on the S6 and so I leave it turned off because it annoys me. The vibrating seems to slow down the use of the keyboard to me as well. I also don't find the quality of accessories like cases to be as good for OP2 as the GS6.
On the other hand:
I don't mind the lack of NFC because I don't keep a phone unrooted long enough to use Android Pay anyway. I think Oneplus realized most of it's users would be in that boat. I also don't mind the lack of quickcharging because I just plug in my phone everynight and I have a 15,000mAh battery charger that bought just in case, but I have used exactly 0 times. Despite all of the horror stories on these forums, I have stock Oxygen and stock kernel and get to the end of every day with about 75% charge left.
I think the TW on GS6 is fine, but I honestly prefer the stock experience. I found the camera on the GS6 to be better, but I would ALWAYS choose my DSLR for any serious video or photo of either and I don't find it $150 dollars better (The actual price difference if you watch for deals on websites such as Slickdeals).
I hear all sorts of whining about the quality of the hardware being less on Oneplus 2, but in the past half year I have owned 3 GS6 devices and two of them had to be sent in for RMA warranty. I have owned 2 Oneplus 2's and they were both without any faults. Also, if you think that Oneplus has software issues, you should see all the whining over on the S6 forums about the software problems. Samsung is arguably the most advanced android maker out there and still regularly have software issues! Samsung does not support the Dev community and takes every action to prevent any software modification (Ever heard of a Knox?). Oneplus has limitations on what they are able to provide the community with regard to drivers, but does what it can.
I used the fancy features like heartbeat sensor and pulse ox a total of once just out of curiosity...never found a need to use it ever again. The same goes for the remote control. It is a neat feature, but I would prefer to use my regular remote.
I also can't see the point in using Android Pay because it seems like half of all retailers out there still make me pull out my wallet to show my ID. Basically, at this point the Android Pay is about the same level of novelty as a 4k screen on a 40 inch TV and I'm fine without it. I can't drive anywhere without my wallet because it has my license, so I might as well carry a card in there too. If I go to a restaurant, I'm not going to hand a $400 to $650 device to the waiter to pay for my food.... With all of it's limitations, Android Pay just isn't THAT much of a convenience. So, I will choose to root my phone and do without out it whether the device has NFC or not.
The GS6 Super OLED is beautiful, but comes with drawbacks. One main problem is that they suffer from burn-in. I had one device that I couldn't stand using because it developed a severe burn in from having a background similar to the "never settle" on the OP2 that left words visible on the back of the device. The burn in occurred after a couple days of heavy use of the device and was permanent. Samsung will not fix that problem on warranty...they see it as your fault. IPS does not have this problem. With regard to battery use I don't think that the benefits of OLED outweigh the significantly larger battery on the OP2. Also, I should mention that I have a smartwatch so I could care less about features like having alerts popup on the display, but I doubt that this really consumes a lot more energy on the IPS displays than the OLED displays. I believe that more energy is probably being consumed in the wakelock anyway from those sort of events and really don't want my screen turning on to tell me about new alerts either way. I saw a fancy graph somewhere about how OLED really doesn't use that much less energy compared to IPS with LED anyway, and can actually use more in certain cicumstances.
I find that the larger real estate of the 5.5 inch screen on the OP2 is a better size compared to the S6 in my experience and don't appreciate any decrease in quality in the 1080p vs 2k.
The S6 and Oneplus 2 are both pretty lag-free experiences. I do like having the 64gb of space compared to the 32 on my S6, but the OP2 seems to run with about 2GB or RAM free, so the 4GB or RAM is probably overkill. The S6 on the otherhand is bloated beyond belief and uses every bit of the 3GB of RAM. Anyone who has spent time on the S6 part of xda has seen tons of complaints about this. Meanwhile, OOS isn't perfect, but it does remain a bloat free experience.
Importantly, the dev support for OP2 is much better and we really owe these guys like Grarak and AK for all their hard work. Dev support for the S6 is very limited. CM will probably never be available for the S6 because it uses the Exynos.
I never had a problem with using the physical home button on the S6, but after using the home button on the OP2, I found that I was annoyed everytime I had to actually press down on that physical button on the S6. I don't know why, but it really bugged me.
dc82 said:
After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
To what I see from everyone I think I can deduce like this:
Oneplus 2: DEV FRIENDLY (i cant emphasis enough how this is very important to me lol), can go toe to toe with the Exynos chip, better stock experience (Cyanogenmod is coming quickly), due to camera software updates OP2 camera is decent, build quality is premium, battery is good, better RAM
Galaxy S6: build is super premium but can be so greasy due to the glass back and front, Exynos chip is good, TouchWiz is decent, NFC, wireless charging, QHD but can be a set back due to battery
The S6 has been months out now, and it would seem there are no Developers working or at least having good progress on a AOSP rom.
tele_jas said:
I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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I just RMA'ed a S6 with burn in and got my replacement today which I plan to sell. So, it still happens and on my device it didn't take much. I hadn't had any problems with any of my prior AMOLED screens I would have agreed with you, but I used a background pic from the S6 promotional material that said "Six Appeal". After removing the background I could see the words any time I had a grey or white background... such as anytime I used XDA. Fortunately for me, the phone had a camera defect and I was able to RMA it. Regarding the burn in, they basically just said "too bad". Considering I just finished dealing with the issue, this is probably why I am so sensitive to it being a concern.
BTW, as mentioned, I have both phones and think the S6 screen is only minimally better after adjusting screen settings on the OP2. I have both of them in front of me right now. I will say, the default screen settings for the OP2 don't help the first impression and I originally thought it was very washed out comparatively.
As a point of mention just for anyone out there new to the technologies: burn in will always be a potential design risk with AMOLED technology. As any pixel is used it will wear ever so slightly. The rate of wear may improve in future generations, but the wear itself is an inherent part of the technology. The good news is that if you are careful, you can probably avoid the problem for the most part. Static parts of the screen with high contrast like the top bar are at risk because they often have the same pixels being used.
Also, "Super AMOLED" isn't actually any better than an AMOLED from the standpoint of screen quality. It is just Samsung's made up term for when they fuse a digitizer into the display vs having it as a separate layer. The underlying display is still the same.
Silvers91 said:
I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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agreed, OP needs to completely debloat their software, make it completely stock, optimize it, then add extra features to it. a rom that's 1.1GB in size tells you quite a lot vs the cyanogenmod .4GB. They need to take it from ground up to even match cyanogenmod in terms of performance and UI experience. I mean look at nexus 5, no matter what rom you put in it, the stock one was always better, smoother UI, better performance, at one point installing a custom kernel made the phone unstable and killed battery life faster.
right off the bat, OP2 users started installing AK kernel to eliminate lagg issues and battery life issues. What does that tell us? the underlying software is not very good, the kernel probably does lots of wasteful debugging and 2 cores almost always offline. The idea is there, but the implementation of the idea seems like to have "workarounds" rather than actual redesigning of the code to coop with the ROM's needs. I mean no one even bothered to create a custom ROM based on the official ROM. The first things that came out for the nexus was the custom ROM based on the official sources.
I'm sorry OP2, but nexus 5 was the real flagship killer, I still have the phone (though had to replace the power button). battery life was good for me, lasted 17-20 hours. Hopefully OP can start to understand that user requests and bug reports should not be worked with using the "workaround" style, but instead to fix issues from the foundation of the ROM, optimize it then release it. Maybe they can release a lightweight version, or a stock AOSP version with everything functional. CM will probably beat them to it at this rate.

Sell Galaxy S6 then buy Nexus 6P?

I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
I'd sell it for the 6p. The picture quality from the camera should be very close to the S6 and even though the exynos is the better chipset, touchwizz is still stuttery (as u claim) whereas the S810 Nexus 6P has been said to be extremely smooth/fluid.
Hi there,
When S6 released, I watched Galaxy Unpack live and I was very very excited. I was going to buy S6 but one thing hold me off. THE CLOSED SOURCE EXYNOS. And of course, locked bootloader.
According to DxOMark, Camera differences between S6 and Nexus 6P are small.
Camera Review For Nexus 6P
Camera Review For Galaxy S6
According to this, you should never miss your shots with S6 while you hold 6P's camera.
And what's the purpose of "beastly Exynos" when it lags in UI?
Comparing 6P to S6 and One Plus Two, for me 6P is winner for following reasons:
1. More durable body.
2. Stereo front facing speakers.
3. More active aftermarket development. Means a lot of cool stuff for 6P(Roms, kernels, tweaks, etc)
4. Seems like 6P has better battery than One Plus Two and S6 (Wait for GSM Arena's battery test. Those are the most accurate battery tests.)
5. Better screen that One Plus Two, however it comes toe to toe with S6. The only ones who complain about screen of 6P are PhoneArena guys, seems like they forgot to turn off adaptive brightness or turn on sRGB mode.
6. More stable and lagfree OS.
7. Fastest updates.
8. Using Android the way it meant to be used.
I would definitely recommend the 6p. I own an S6, and I can fully relate to the Touchwiz issues. All Nexus devices are made to give the user the smoothest, fastest experience possible. Uninhibited by 3rd party layers and skins that can slow everything down. The hardware and software are both high-end enough on the 6p to meet or beat the S6, so you wouldn't be sacrificing anything by switching. Also, you can't beat being first in line to receive security and other updates!
Read an article testing cell reception s6 and 2 other phones, no 6p but another huwei phone - s6 was horrible.
A couple have mentioned reception on the 6p is fantastic - which is supposedly a strong point for huwei (or however you spell it!) devices.
That would be enough for me to sell.
I've done just this, sold my S6 to buy a nexus. The goods on the S6 were very good - design, size, screen, camera. The bads similarly were very bad - software, ram management, battery.
Bloated horrible mess. So I have got the 6p now to try out. The screen is not as good as the s6, the camera is close but not equal to the s6 but the software experience on the 6p wipes the floor with the s6. I'd not hesitate to sell the S6 to get either of the new nexus phones.
This is my plan to sell S6 as soon as I go the 6P. S6 has been great so far, it took amazing photos. However, I really can't stand for the battery life. I basically has to put on battery save mode everyday. The touch wiz has been improved a lot, but it somehow still managed to slow the phone down after a while.
I owned the S6 and sold it for a Nexus 6P, im not going to ***** about the S6 because it was a great little phone. I just prefer a bigger handset and a better modding scene
Sold my s6 in July due to the crappy battery life, small screen and touch wiz.. It was a nice phone though
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In process of selling my S6. The battery life and junk AT&T and Samsung have on it is abysmal and battery is even worse. I shouldn't have to spend hours disabling and turning off features to get the phone battery to last more than a few hours. I actually went back to my Nexus 6 and the Galaxy S6 has been sitting in the drawer
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I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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What is bad about Knox?
luciferiusXI said:
What is bad about Knox?
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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0 benefits of having it right?
clorbag said:
The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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Odd that you would say this and yet I'm reading it on my unlocked, rooted, debloated, knox removed S6 with a custom rom derived from the development that doesn't exist using that crap exynos chip you mentioned that rides at or near the top of the leaderboard in nearly every measurable performance category. lol
Not that the concept in general doesn't have merit as the stock rom does hitch up here and there and thats a shame on such excellent hardware but there is no reason to kick objectivity and factual information to the curb.
To the thread in general I have the S6 and I'm getting this phone but I'll be moving on come spring. I love the Nexus line but I have never made friends with phablet sizing and I'll tire of this phones size after a short while just like I did with all the other phablets I've owned. It is rather irritating to me that my preferred size is the 5 to 5.2 range and this seems to be more and more relegated to the mid range but I'm hopeful that come spring one of the 820 offerings will come with flagship hardware in the 5ish inch range. Of course come next fall I'll jump on the N5/6.1P or whatever it will be called because I'll miss the Nexus line and its unrivaled support. I've owned all but the second, forget what that one was called?
One other thing that jumps out at me about the P is the lack of wireless charging. I'm completely converted over to it for ordinary day to day use and have pads around the house and holders in the cars and on my boat. I do like to have quick charge by whatever name for those moments where you need to pump some quick batt so one is not a replacement for the other. Not a deal breaker but it rides over on the con side for me.
Most of the other stuff mentioned here seems like advantage P or a push to me but the camera is still a question in my mind. It has been reviewed well but none of the reviews I've seen so far have mentioned much about its ability to take a "snap" shot. You know, the one where the moment is there and you take the shot or miss it because its gone forever. No set up, no time to make adjustments. The S6 is as good as I've experienced at that kind of shot. I can usually expect such a picture to be in focus and have reasonably good exposure and so on. Not art, not perfect, but pretty darn good. The P may be just as good or better so I'm not calling it out just saying I haven't seen any reviewers or users here talking about this aspect of the cameras performance.
Did I mention I hate that the flagship hardware is more and more becoming available only in the phablet sizing?

Anyone here consider the oneplus 3?

Would anyone here with an s7 edge Exynos variant consider switching to a oneplus 3 and why ?
No way LOL
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NVR think of it
It is like a downgrade, not an upgrade. You lose the waterproof ness, the superb camera screen and the sd. You will only have 6GB ram (not all of them are actually usable. It is a placebo)
Its more of a sidegrade, lol!
It has some aspects that people would consider switching for.
Like the 6GB of RAM. AOSP support. Snapdragon CPU (maybe)
If its going to be like the OPO it will have a great development userbase. And alot of development roms.
Move from a QHD screen on the S7 to an old HD screen on the Oneplus? Never.
After reading Anandtech's analysis of the display on the OnePlus 3, it's a no-go for sure....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
TLR, noticeable pentile matrix (hello 2010), horrible color accuracy (worst they've seen since doing display testing on phones).
Of course, I use my Gear VR quite a bit so that immediately rules out the OnePlus 3. No microSD storage also doesn't help me.
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Surely not. Why would anyone want to loose the features that make the 7 series what it is?!
However, I am considering changing my P9000 for the OP3 but I am waiting to see if they can sort the display out somewhat first? - The P9000 has the best display of any phone I have seen
Its only the camera that could be better.
I hang on to my S7E until I see what Samsung come out with next.
The only good quality about the oneplus 3 is the unlocked bootloader and large development community. I've read the anandtech review and the screen seems like a big disappointment but most other reviews seem to think it's a pretty good one which is confusing lol
I'm looking for Samsung hardware with stock Android and so far this phone doesn't exist.
IMHO compared to the S7 Edge the Oneplus 3 is overall inferior in many hardware aspects.
Pros:
64GB internal memory
6GB RAM (but currently poorly managed without applying a fix...)
Type-C USB
Cons:
less LTE bands
worse AMOLED screen (and non-edge)
worse camera quality
worse flash and autofocus
no microSD card
no heart rate and SpO2 sensors
worse battery
worse fast charging (Oppo's based and not standard)
no wireless charge
no water resistance
and IMHO the Exynos 8890 is better then the Qualcomm 820...
Oneplus 3 price is attractive, but you get what you pay for.
However unfortunately IMHO the S7 Edge is still overpriced...
It would be a downgrade, I don't know anyone dumb enough to do that
i have ordered one. Lets c how it goes.
I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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Apparently there's going to be an update that deals with the screen accuracy issues.
Had OP2, had nice specs, but in reality it sucked mostly because of the half cooked software. Even though OP seems to be fixing it with OP3 I will never buy from Oneplus ever again
If you consider the overall experience, for what I am in love with the s7 edge, let it be display, battery, software(controversial), the extra samsung features, VR, camera, aesthetics, stability (really important) etc , s7 edge leaves OP3 way behind.
Op3 is a great buy but a downgrade from s7
Nope
I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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keep us posted with your thoughts when you get the phone : P wonder how fast will oneplus be pushing updates this time.
No way! Such a downgrade und even worse software. But I consider upcoming HTC nexus, because of this typical samsung's software issue
It seems like a decent device. But the problem is that I already own and can afford my S7E. I don't see anything wrong with the one plus 3, and especially for the price.
But I wouldn't dream of leaving my S7E for it. Worse camera. Worse battery life. Screen is lower resolution, which isn't that big of a deal for me, but it is a con, for sure. The only pluses are the fact that there is no edge, which helps while holding, and the 6gb of ram, which is also questionable for the moment. No doubt that it will be the next big thing as well.
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Experience with the device

Hello,
i am looking to buy this device,
is this worth it?
i want you guys to share your personal experience with the device if possible
Its been a very romantic experience for me.
There are tons of reviews all over the web, I suggest you read them.
If you have any specific questions you can ask them here.
It depends on where you live, and how good the deal is. Otherwise v30 is like a finalised design of the G6 and I would wait for it if I could (end sept), of course, by then it'll have other competition
The G6 was DOA when it was released with a 821 processor in a supposed 2017 flagship phone. Consequently sales of G6 are terrible, the good side of this is that G6 prices are falling rapidly. If price is the deciding factor, then G6 is a great option. Otherwise I'd look at oneplus 5 (for development), HTC U11 is a very solid phone, Nokia is about to release a flagship, pixel 2 will no doubt be awesome.
G6 is a pretty good phone, nothing special, nothing bad either...you won't be disappointed or thrilled.
I went to the g6 from the g4. It was sad to say bye bye but the g6 has exceeded my expectations in all aspects. Most notably water resistance, speed, camera, price, and battery life.
My partner has the galaxy s8. They noticed little improvement from the s6(?)! This is a flagship phone and it is cheap!
nchc said:
The G6 was DOA when it was released with a 821 processor in a supposed 2017 flagship phone. Consequently sales of G6 are terrible, the good side of this is that G6 prices are falling rapidly. If price is the deciding factor, then G6 is a great option. Otherwise I'd look at oneplus 5 (for development), HTC U11 is a very solid phone, Nokia is about to release a flagship, pixel 2 will no doubt be awesome.
G6 is a pretty good phone, nothing special, nothing bad either...you won't be disappointed or thrilled.
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Have you actually used it? I have a feeling you haven't.
SD 821 is still a top processor today and this phone runs anything i throw at it no lag, no stutter, no problem. I had a chance to "test drive" Galaxy S8 with it's "superior" SoC and i didn't like it at all. The system was stuttery and laggy mess, even after hard reset, and games ran same as on G6. The only difference you're gonna see today is in benchmarks. So in the end G6, even with it's somewhat "inferior" SoC, is a lot smoother and more responsive phone overall.
Having a faster SoC means nothing if your UX is unoptimized and bloated lag-fest - Samsung style.
We may see a difference in 3 or 4 years, when games and apps might actually be more demanding, but not today. Today G6 is the better, smoother runnnig phone that's why, in the end, i choose it over S8 and i'm loving it.
+It has a better camera, better audio quality (and i'm using non-Quad-DAC version), same battery life, better in-hand feel, no ****ty and pointless edge display and is a lot tougher to break.
WstrKuNoužč said:
Have you actually used it? I have a feeling you haven't.
SD 821 is still a top processor today and this phone runs anything i throw at it no lag, no stutter, no problem. I had a chance to "test drive" Galaxy S8 with it's "superior" SoC and i didn't like it at all. The system was stuttery and laggy mess, even after hard reset, and games ran same as on G6. The only difference you're gonna see today is in benchmarks. So in the end G6, even with it's somewhat "inferior" SoC, is a lot smoother and more responsive phone overall.
Having a faster SoC means nothing if your UX is unoptimized and bloated lag-fest - Samsung style.
We may see a difference in 3 or 4 years, when games and apps might actually be more demanding, but not today. Today G6 is the better, smoother runnnig phone that's why, in the end, i choose it over S8 and i'm loving it.
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Yep, using LG G6 to type this.
Agree with all your statements. I didn't say the G6 was bad, it just doesn't have a distinguishing or marketable feature. 821 chip is great but it wont sell phones in 2017, all the other major manufacturers realised this and delayed releasing flagship phones to get 835s.
Unmodified Samsung's are crap but have brilliant development support and as such are easy to mod and developement last years (my first android is the original galaxy which I purchased before the hype and is still has active development). G6 wont be in active development for long, its a simple numbers game.
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Yep, using LG G6 to type this.
Agree with all your statements. I didn't say the G6 was bad, it just doesn't have a distinguishing or marketable feature. 821 chip is great but it wont sell phones in 2017, all the other major manufacturers realised this and delayed releasing flagship phones to get 835s.
Unmodified Samsung's are crap but have brilliant development support and as such are easy to mod and developement last years (my first android is the original galaxy which I purchased before the hype and is still has active development). G6 wont be in active development for long, its a simple numbers game.
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Even G3 is still very active in development today so i don't really believe G6's is just gonna stop or slow after a while.
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I didn't say the G6 was bad, it just doesn't have a distinguishing or marketable feature.
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Well, there's the price. Got it for less than €400 so that certainly distinguishes it from other flagships.
And it's not a particularly good phone I admit, but it's not a bad phone either, certainly not for this kind of money.
it's not a Good phone or a Bad phone. it's a GREAT PHONE.
awesome:
- dual lens & great manual mode
- form factor & industrial design
- flat screen non-Amoled w/natural colours
- QuadDAC
- price
not-as-awesome
- screen may be HDR and DolbyVision ready, but colour accuracy and brightness could be better
- no notification light is a drag -- no way to know if you missed a text, call or email if you don't use Always On Display or wake it to check
- seems that LG spent a lot of time optimizing the cameras (appreciate it, LG!), and less time optimizing the OS (is there a battery drain issue?). for those ppl dissing the SD821 SOC, let's not forget that it's the same guts as the darling Pixel phones, AND also a step up from last year's Galaxy S7/Edge, which many ppl raved about. that said, the 821 just doesn't feel as snappy as it could in the G6 -- not quite like the Pixel experience.
ASW1 said:
Well, there's the price. Got it for less than €400 so that certainly distinguishes it from other flagships.
And it's not a particularly good phone I admit, but it's not a bad phone either, certainly not for this kind of money.
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Exactly what I said a few posts up too
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WstrKuNoužč said:
Even G3 is still very active in development today so i don't really believe G6's is just gonna stop or slow after a while.
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I hope so, but we'll need a few more devs (and a bloody unlock for dual sim) for the G6 to have such longevity. I also have a G1 and developement has slowed to only one dev.
thanks guys for your responses i still haven't decided if i want to buy this device.
I love my g6. It's one of the most valued and Balance ed phones for me. I own honor 8 Pro, s8 plus and Moto z2 play.
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The G6 was DOA when it was released with a 821 processor in a supposed 2017 flagship phone. Consequently sales of G6 are terrible
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You said in a later post that the G6 just has nothing special to compete and I agree with that. But not that the processor has anything to do with it. The average consumer doesn't know or care about the processor in their phone, or most of the other specs that we obsess over. The average consumer bases their decision on much more important factors: 1) what's being advertised heavily; 2) what looks sexy; 3) what will impress their friends; 4) what is prominently displayed at their carrier.
I do feel that the more aggressive pricing we are seeing now counts as a distinguishing feature. If you have the opportunity to show people they can have "just as good" of a phone for half the price, you can sell them. But it's hard to even make that case when people walk in the door wanting an iPhone or GS8 just based on marketing.
Sales are not terrible just not where LG needs them to be. They sold more then 14m G6 devices, yet Goolge didnt even sell 2 million Pixels.
Its a great device I actually switched from the Pixel. I wish the camera was Pixel speed but otherwise I am happy with this device.
WstrKuNoužč said:
Have you actually used it? I have a feeling you haven't.
SD 821 is still a top processor today and this phone runs anything i throw at it no lag, no stutter, no problem. I had a chance to "test drive" Galaxy S8 with it's "superior" SoC and i didn't like it at all. The system was stuttery and laggy mess, even after hard reset, and games ran same as on G6. The only difference you're gonna see today is in benchmarks. So in the end G6, even with it's somewhat "inferior" SoC, is a lot smoother and more responsive phone overall.
Having a faster SoC means nothing if your UX is unoptimized and bloated lag-fest - Samsung style.
We may see a difference in 3 or 4 years, when games and apps might actually be more demanding, but not today. Today G6 is the better, smoother runnnig phone that's why, in the end, i choose it over S8 and i'm loving it.
+It has a better camera, better audio quality (and i'm using non-Quad-DAC version), same battery life, better in-hand feel, no ****ty and pointless edge display and is a lot tougher to break.
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Wow that's surprising for a SD 835 device. The LG G6 wins for 2017 unless next month's launch of the even better LG V30! That LG brings so much hype that the upcoming Galaxy Note 8 looks boring. LG optimizes their phone so good that LG G6 camera, smooth UI, and battery life is great and awesome. LG is best.
I got this device to and its awesome !!
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One year later - do you recommend this phone ?

Hi guys.
One year later the prices are way down. Now LG G6 is 360 euro in my country.
Is about same price as Samsung A8, Nokia 7 Plus or Huawei P20 Lite.
I'd say one year old flagship should be an obvious choice over today's midrangers. Better camera, better cpu. However, one concern looking over this forum is with battery life (low sot, drains).
Seeing how phones have become consumables, no removable batteries, defects occurring after the 2 year obligatory warrant (at least in EU), oled screens loosing a lot of brightness in time ... I'm not willing to pay 800euro for the latest and greatest.
Yes, I recommend this phone. Despite the very poor software support it's good phone for its price. They - LG - are trying to fix their slow (almost nonexistent) update policy - Korea and Canada is already affected (Oreo update). It's fast smartphone with very stable android 7.0 by default with very good battery life.
Even without Oreo or wireless charging I'd recommend this phone but.... it is a bit laggy for the money to recommend.
I'd recommend it only for the camera and the display, because it can be easily bought for 350 euros or less, anything else is just "avarage" imho.
Depends what you want in a phone. If I didn't care for an SD Card, I'd probably get a Pixel 2 (not verizon) for the updates and Dev Support alone. If you don't care about root, then obviously your choices expand a lot more.
This phone will never see android P. If it does, it will be a custom ROM, meaning you'll lose the stock camera quality.
I paid $295 for mine and have no regrets though, so yes, depending on what you're looking for, I would recommend.
Things important for me in a phone:
1. Battery life. Or better said, real life battery life. I would like to have a few hours of SOT on 4G.
2. Also, I'd like the device to operate cool when outside is hot or when the signal is poor . No one is mentioning this in reviews but in my experience is quite a factor.
3. Camera, obviously. Most of my photos/films are taken with my phone for convenience reasons.
Not so important:
1. Display.
2. Performance. Opening/operating chrome without lag should do it.
Certainly I won't play PUBG on my phone. I do play PUBG on occasion on my PC.
3. Storage capacity. I keep mostly books (read them with tts - IVONA) but those don't take a lot of space. For music I have deezer, for movies Netflix. Nothing local. Photos I unload on my PC.
No , it's a Good phone but the lack of security patch is a really bad point. it's a shame because this phone is really nice ! january security update 5 month later still no update...
I am on the April security patch via T-Mobile.
Hardware is OK, but software ...
Overall the phone is incredible. Especially now, when its price is really decent, getting new one is really good idea. Build quality is very high, this phone is clearly built to last and its design is great. The camera is very good, especially with ported GCam apps which boost image quality even more. The display's colors and saturation is great, the display itself is AWESOME (18:9 rocks!)... it's not very bright in direct sun, my Xperia Z3 Compact was much much better, but it's good. UI responsiveness is very good, Snapdraon 821 still kicks a$$ and it's enough for this phone to run nice and smooth
However the phone is not perfect. I've been using it since July and right now I feel that LG should try a little bit to revive it. Oreo is on the way, yes, but it should've happened much earlier. I'm not complaining but this phone was LG's flagship device after all. Also battery life is not very good (battery-hungry display, buggy Android 7.0), my daily SoT is around 3-3,5hrs, I expected a little more from 3300mAh. The display starts to have image retention issues just after one year of using the phone and after short amounts of using the phone overall (none of my previous phones which I've been using for more than two years had this issue). But if these disadvantages are not deal-breakers, buy it! You won't regret it!
EDIT: I forgot about crappy front facing camera! 5MP is waaaay too bad and I highly recommend using GCam for selfies, it boosts image quality DRASTICALLY!

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