Downgrade N9005 from 6.0.1 to 4.3.2 - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys,
Here is a long story, interesting to read maybe for some.
I had android 4.3.2 on my Note 3 N9005, for 2 and a half years now. I rooted the phone as soon as it came out. Had many applications which ran smoothly on it, schreenshots/screenrecorders, xposed installer with a lot of mods.. etc.. everything worked fine. Until the last few months, where suddenly "some application" stopped working. I began to have that message, more and more often, and on different applications. I thought, it was time to run a factory reset. BUT I remembered that I ran into some applications on Play Store, which couldn't be installed, since I had an old android version.
So, now, I thought, maybe it was time to try a custom rom. So I installed LiquidSmooth, (android 5.1.1). Nice jump, I must say, many things different, than 4.3.2. Some problems though, the sound was with interference, and some apps just froze. Some games I was playing, just froze.
Then I thought I try another ROM. Found a page with best ROMs, for 5.1.1 and saw that LiquidSmooth only had like 4.8% of the votes, while Nightly had like 40% of the votes and was much more stable (well, according to that site). So I thought I change. BUT, then I saw, that I could actually update to 6.0.1 with Ressurection Remix. So I thought, wow, lemme try that !
So I did. I installed Ressurection Remix, and I must admit, it looks damn good. Even bought the swift dark theme, and it is beautifull. It is candy for the eye. God damn, almost like the 3D cube I played with in Linux a few years back. But some of my games, still freeze. - And as you can guess, I do not like that.. I also got the message on boot: Kernel is not seandroid enforcing.. and I know it's normal, but still I do not like it. (I want everything to be perfect). And with some games, not being able to run, I got tired of RR.
So now, I was thinking, what if I could switch back to 4.3.2? I should have run maybe a factory reset on 4.3.2 instead of trying ROMs, at least my stuff was working. So I thought I get the original stock firmware, and just flash it with ODIN. So, it should be good.
Now I know that on a lot of threads here on the site, people mention that you can't downgrade android. Well, at least not from 6.0.1 to 4.3.2. Because ODIN is not working in 6.0.1 and other stuff.
BUT, I think this: I have a backup, with CWM, for 4.3.2, which I know works, (since I used it a few times).
So, what if I run that backup and get my phone back to 4.3.2.? (again, some ppl here on site, that they accidentally downgraded from 4.4 to 4.3, then they could't upgrade back to 4.4).
So my question is: I use CWM to restore the 4.3.2 backup, THEN in the phone with ODIN I run the original full stock firmware?
Then later, I could unlock bootloader and root my phone again if I want to try something. Would this be possible?
A second question, which I have is: Before I upgraded to lolipop and marshmallow, i ran of course a factory reset, reset cache and dalvik from CWM. But still, now, where I am on 6.0.1 I still saw some folders of some programs I had on 4.3.2. How is that possible? The programs are not in the menu, but the folders are on phones memory. Shouldn't they have been deleted on those 3 resets from CWM? (factory, cache and dalvik?). This is also a reason, for why I would want to return to original stock firmware. Cos I could root my phone right away again, and then upgrade to some rom, so those programs do not come along, and I would have a clean rom. Or with other words, the phones "user" memory, /storage/emulated/sdcard0 - could I just delete it all? I mean the operating system is on root, this directory /storage/emulated/sdcard0 is usually what the user installs on the phone, am I right?
And last question, cos I am greedy for answers. The samsung pen, is of course not working, and I miss it. Any app to install or flash to get the pen alive again?
Thank for your time ro read this Hope u can help ))

Please somebody help. I am also interested.
Wao, boy it was a real long story. And I read it all.

LordTicut said:
Hello guys,
Here is a long story, interesting to read maybe for some.
I had android 4.3.2 on my Note 3 N9005, for 2 and a half years now. I rooted the phone as soon as it came out. Had many applications which ran smoothly on it, schreenshots/screenrecorders, xposed installer with a lot of mods.. etc.. everything worked fine. Until the last few months, where suddenly "some application" stopped working. I began to have that message, more and more often, and on different applications. I thought, it was time to run a factory reset. BUT I remembered that I ran into some applications on Play Store, which couldn't be installed, since I had an old android version.
So, now, I thought, maybe it was time to try a custom rom. So I installed LiquidSmooth, (android 5.1.1). Nice jump, I must say, many things different, than 4.3.2. Some problems though, the sound was with interference, and some apps just froze. Some games I was playing, just froze.
Then I thought I try another ROM. Found a page with best ROMs, for 5.1.1 and saw that LiquidSmooth only had like 4.8% of the votes, while Nightly had like 40% of the votes and was much more stable (well, according to that site). So I thought I change. BUT, then I saw, that I could actually update to 6.0.1 with Ressurection Remix. So I thought, wow, lemme try that !
So I did. I installed Ressurection Remix, and I must admit, it looks damn good. Even bought the swift dark theme, and it is beautifull. It is candy for the eye. God damn, almost like the 3D cube I played with in Linux a few years back. But some of my games, still freeze. - And as you can guess, I do not like that.. I also got the message on boot: Kernel is not seandroid enforcing.. and I know it's normal, but still I do not like it. (I want everything to be perfect). And with some games, not being able to run, I got tired of RR.
So now, I was thinking, what if I could switch back to 4.3.2? I should have run maybe a factory reset on 4.3.2 instead of trying ROMs, at least my stuff was working. So I thought I get the original stock firmware, and just flash it with ODIN. So, it should be good.
Now I know that on a lot of threads here on the site, people mention that you can't downgrade android. Well, at least not from 6.0.1 to 4.3.2. Because ODIN is not working in 6.0.1 and other stuff.
BUT, I think this: I have a backup, with CWM, for 4.3.2, which I know works, (since I used it a few times).
So, what if I run that backup and get my phone back to 4.3.2.? (again, some ppl here on site, that they accidentally downgraded from 4.4 to 4.3, then they could't upgrade back to 4.4).
So my question is: I use CWM to restore the 4.3.2 backup, THEN in the phone with ODIN I run the original full stock firmware?
Then later, I could unlock bootloader and root my phone again if I want to try something. Would this be possible?
A second question, which I have is: Before I upgraded to lolipop and marshmallow, i ran of course a factory reset, reset cache and dalvik from CWM. But still, now, where I am on 6.0.1 I still saw some folders of some programs I had on 4.3.2. How is that possible? The programs are not in the menu, but the folders are on phones memory. Shouldn't they have been deleted on those 3 resets from CWM? (factory, cache and dalvik?). This is also a reason, for why I would want to return to original stock firmware. Cos I could root my phone right away again, and then upgrade to some rom, so those programs do not come along, and I would have a clean rom. Or with other words, the phones "user" memory, /storage/emulated/sdcard0 - could I just delete it all? I mean the operating system is on root, this directory /storage/emulated/sdcard0 is usually what the user installs on the phone, am I right?
And last question, cos I am greedy for answers. The samsung pen, is of course not working, and I miss it. Any app to install or flash to get the pen alive again?
Thank for your time ro read this Hope u can help ))
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Hi friend.
I think you asking: I installed Android MM and It's possible to downgrade 4.3 via Odin tar.md5 flash installation?
I answer: Yes, i think i like you (or you like me). I love use all rom as possible as quickly, but i tired from "system" process not respond and sound quality issue.
I say you ITS POSSIBLE. because i flash via odin anytime (my stock firmware .tar.md5). Even from android mm to 4.3, lollipop > kitkat, v5.1.1 port rom > v5.0.
You can try, first time i'm newbie on XDA, there said something like bootloader. I now said, its necessary (important), just not too for Flashing Stock ROM.
I hope this little helps to you...
Good luck, i'm now Android MM!
Now i searching for backing knox to 0x0.

Via CWM not ODIN
Thanks dalisoft for answering.
My question was actually if I could restore my backup I made with ClockWorkMod a few years ago.
dalisoft said:
Hi friend.
I think you asking: I installed Android MM and It's possible to downgrade 4.3 via Odin tar.md5 flash installation?
I answer: Yes, i think i like you (or you like me). I love use all rom as possible as quickly, but i tired from "system" process not respond and sound quality issue.
I say you ITS POSSIBLE. because i flash via odin anytime (my stock firmware .tar.md5). Even from android mm to 4.3, lollipop > kitkat, v5.1.1 port rom > v5.0.
You can try, first time i'm newbie on XDA, there said something like bootloader. I now said, its necessary (important), just not too for Flashing Stock ROM.
I hope this little helps to you...
Good luck, i'm now Android MM!
Now i searching for backing knox to 0x0.
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LordTicut said:
Thanks dalisoft for answering.
My question was actually if I could restore my backup I made with ClockWorkMod a few years ago.
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Yes, you can restore nandroid backup if you have CWM.
But, remember, before restoring you should to do some steps:
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. Wipe cache
3. Advanced > Wipe dalvik cache
4. Mounts > Format /system
5. Mounts > Format /data

Allright, thanks Dalisoft.
Do you know by the way, if CWM also takes a copy of EFS? I mean EFS is a system directory, so is it included in the nandroidbackup by CWM, right? So if I restore that backup, I will have my EFS exactly as it was, just after I rooted my phone. (not because something is wrong with it, but in case sometyhing is altered, it will be back to normal, right?).
I mean, there are 2 partitions on the phone, the ROM and the recovery. And CWM does an exact image of the ROM partition, so I would assume that the EFS folder is there too. But I am not sure, that's why I am asking.
Guess I am happy and lucky I made a backup with CWM right after root..

CWM also takes a copy of EFS?
Answer = NO .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255

JJEgan said:
CWM also takes a copy of EFS?
Answer = NO .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255
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JJEgan
You are right, I posted this thread in the wrong forum. I am deeply sorry for that. I just wanted quickly an answer. It won't happen again. ( I saw in the meantime it has been moved, so I guess everything is good)
Cheers !

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[Q] gt-i9500 and kitkat custom roms incompatibility? HUH?

As the title says I have an International GT_I9500 unlocked
Until now I was always able to install any custom rom I wanted , no problem, just wipe and install and away we went.
Now with KitKat, I AM COMPLETELY UNABLE TO INSTALL ANY OF THE CUSTOM ROMS FOR 4.4.2 -0 NONE WORKS. I can't believe i am jinxed.
I wiped everything, cache, dalvik, system and internal and also did a full wipe - NOTHING WORKED, There are 3 custom roms for 4.4.2 so far and NONE = NOT A SINGLE ONE WANTS TO INSTALL.
I downloaded one of Samsung original 4.4.2 firmware and using Odin I WAS ABLE TO INSTALL AND MAKE IT WORK, yet after doing this, I tried to install any of the 3 customs roms and BOOM, COMPLETE FAILURE
Can anyone help PLEASE GUYS, I feel like BROOMHILDA LONE PERSON WITH A CLOUD ONLY ON MY HEAD
I am curious as to why this is happening
maybe its a i9505 or i9506 rom
provide the Odin messages here.
custom roms failure, huh?
spamtrash said:
provide the Odin messages here.
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I loaded the custom roms via recovery, not via odin,
so i go into recovery mode via TeamWin, wipe everything and load the custom rom, message says "successful" and i reboot system, that's it
the phone hangs into one of the boot animations and never finishes, left it for longer than 30 minutes, all of them , nothing loads.
go back the same custom roms but with android 4.3 and first shot, loads fine, all of them, same ones that won't load the 4.4.2 load the 4.3
most custom roms load via recovery not odin -
last try was load samsung original firmware 4.4.2 via download Odin, then root then install teamwin recovery. - worked fine
now removed it and reinstalled Thor 4.3 (thor 4.4.2 doesn't work) but tomorrow i'll wipe it and reinstall the samsung 4.4.2 unless you have an idea
*i hope)
sorry about the capitals - NO IT IS AN EXYNOS UNLOCKED GT-I9500 - almost a year after playing with nova settings, xposed and about a dozen custom roms, i THINK i know it's a 9500 - skip the silly suggestions - we're all noobs but not necessarily all boobs
thanks for your help - appreciated if we can solve it
custom roms failure, huh?
KingOfDope said:
maybe its a i9505 or i9506 rom
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roms were downloaded exclusively from GT=I9500 AREA -
i don't go anywhere else because i know beforehand that they won't work - so why bother
thanks for your suggestion but obviously out of context - i don't live in the US in addition
Maybe wrong recovery ¿?
funny 4.4.2 roms
robertostorm said:
Maybe wrong recovery ¿?
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i usually use teamwin version 2.6.3
and funny thing in one of the wipes even the teamwin was wiped so i wound using the regular android recovery, with the tiny tiny blue characters
that doesn't have all the teamwin recovery options - so even then it failed
after installing the saunsung 4.4.2 i downloaded a fresh teamwin version and installed via odin/download - like starting from zero. guess what
nope even then the roms freeze at the bootanimation - but the joke is ONLY IF THEY ARE VERSIONS 4.4.2 -they work fine with version 4.3
and when i mean wipe i mean wipe - cache/dalvik/system/internal - and even the other option where you have to type YES for the wipe to go on.
short of reformating the whole memory which i think is excessive, i THINK i tried with a clean clean memory install (according to me)
thanks for your patience
btw most of the custom roms install via recovery so there's no way to get a download install version
exlaval said:
i usually use teamwin version 2.6.3
and funny thing in one of the wipes even the teamwin was wiped so i wound using the regular android recovery, with the tiny tiny blue characters
that doesn't have all the teamwin recovery options - so even then it failed
after installing the saunsung 4.4.2 i downloaded a fresh teamwin version and installed via odin/download - like starting from zero. guess what
nope even then the roms freeze at the bootanimation - but the joke is ONLY IF THEY ARE VERSIONS 4.4.2 -they work fine with version 4.3
and when i mean wipe i mean wipe - cache/dalvik/system/internal - and even the other option where you have to type YES for the wipe to go on.
short of reformating the whole memory which i think is excessive, i THINK i tried with a clean clean memory install (according to me)
thanks for your patience
btw most of the custom roms install via recovery so there's no way to get a download install version
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Once you flashed stock 4.4.2, your bootloader gets updated, so you can only use 4.4+ roms, also TWRP is full of bugs, just use cwm 6.0.4.5 and you're set.
Also, did you root the stock 4.4.2?
custom roms failure, huh?
robertostorm said:
Once you flashed stock 4.4.2, your bootloader gets updated, so you can only use 4.4+ roms, also TWRP is full of bugs, just use cwm 6.0.4.5 and you're set.
Also, did you root the stock 4.4.2?
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as i said in a previous message - i used odin in download mode and flashed an original samsung 4.4.2 and it worked, i rooted and reinstalled teamwin
AFTER ALL THIS I tried to install one of the 4.4.2 custom roms - IT FAILED CONSISTENTLY - BY THIS I MEAN ALL ROMS DIED AT BOOTANIMATIONS - AND ALL FAILED TO START
thanks so much
Try with latest Philz recovery or any up to date CWM recovery.
And when coming from stock, you generally have to FULL wipe you phone
custom roms failure, huh?
ayedarts said:
Try with latest Philz recovery or any up to date CWM recovery.
And when coming from stock, you generally have to FULL wipe you phone
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just downloaded cwm version 6.0.4.6 installed via recovery. launched recovery installed latest wanamlite for 4.4.2 - message was "installed successfully" please reboot
i rebooted and for the last 15 minutes all i have is a BIG SAMSUNG on the screen - nothing beyond
just another hitch with kitkat - i have a SONY XPERIA Z TABLET with wifi and sim - a couple of weeks ago i rooted it but the cwm version is not good because it's on the vertical side and you cannot see the bottom of the menu so it's useless - anyhow. i rooted it and left it at that.
i got notice from sony that a new os version (kitkat) was ready for install - so I just told the tablet to start - and the os install screwed the tablet,
there was no way to reload and it completely deleted the memory , it went to sony to reload - so i have a big hunch there is something not right somewhere -
anyway the phone still has the SAMSUNG and it ain't going anywhere while i am writing all this
very discouraging = sure as heck i ain't buying no more galaxys of any sort, i was ready to preorder the s5 at 455british pound, unlocked - but since this i am dropping samsung, i like very very much the xperia tablet it's faster than the s4 so perhaps i'll jump to the sony xperia fone and bbye korea
maybe i9505 rom
custom roms failure, huh?
i know you're trying to help - but if you read all the previous (long and boring) messages - there's no mistakes, there's no 9505
ALL THE ROMS I DOWNLOAD AND USE - ALL OF THEM WITHOUT EXCEPTION come for the i9500 development area, I DON'T BOTHER WITH
9505 - MOSTLY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A 9505
UPDATE - today after loading the latest cwm recovery i got lucky to be able to load ONE - READ IT - ONE CUSTOM ROM ( rom from HASAN)
this is the very only that i got to work, the other two just refuse to finish the boot - i don't know where they freeze.
even the wanamlite custom rom for 4.4.2 freezes - this is really annoying and a puzzle - this is my fourth samsung fone and never ever did i
find the bug that freeze everything. I hope that some of the other developers will come up with new kitkat versions for the 9500 and see if the bug persists or not -
any help will absolutely be appreciated, guys, some sort of boot log that can help pinpoint,
thanks again
You know the fact you keep using capital letters (so you might be trying to scream) is a little annoying.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9500. I live in Costa Rica (so not in the US obviously).
I installed stock 4.4.2 using ODIN, then flashed ROOT and finally installed a custom CWM. First I tried Philz and ended up with 6.0.4.6.
I have already tried 2 different custom ROM's but I didn't like them so I went back to stock. I am very satisfied with the performance of my phone with stock, but that's not the point.
The thing is that I have the same phone you have, i installed the same software you installed, I followed the same steps you have followed yet I am able to install any custom ROM i like.
Maybe it is your phone, or maybe you're just looking for an excuse to quit Samsung and you're simply blaming kitkat your inability of installing ROMs now.
I'm just saying... there are several options you can tried if you quit being angry and actually try them.
Personally, I would start from scratch. Flashing via ODIN again, rooting accordingly with the right files, using a recovery that is recognized to work with 4.4.2, and finally using the right custom ROM.
custom roms failure, huh?
pinktheater said:
You know the fact you keep using capital letters (so you might be trying to scream) is a little annoying.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9500. I live in Costa Rica (so not in the US obviously).
I installed stock 4.4.2 using ODIN, then flashed ROOT and finally installed a custom CWM. First I tried Philz and ended up with 6.0.4.6.
I have already tried 2 different custom ROM's but I didn't like them so I went back to stock. I am very satisfied with the performance of my phone with stock, but that's not the point.
The thing is that I have the same phone you have, i installed the same software you installed, I followed the same steps you have followed yet I am able to install any custom ROM i like.
Maybe it is your phone, or maybe you're just looking for an excuse to quit Samsung and you're simply blaming kitkat your inability of installing ROMs now.
I'm just saying... there are several options you can tried if you quit being angry and actually try them.
Personally, I would start from scratch. Flashing via ODIN again, rooting accordingly with the right files, using a recovery that is recognized to work with 4.4.2, and finally using the right custom ROM.
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First - The capitals I used were ONLY to emphasize certain aspects and not intended as screaming, which is the usual sense - That was not my intention,
Second - I have being using Samsung for the last 7 years, I was not intending to leave until I hit this brick and further I nearly went to Clove, UK (where I usually pre-ordered my last 3 Galaxy's - months ahead of delivery) so thumping me by saying I am looking for an excuse to dump Samsung, is way off base, so much so, that if that indeed was my intention, why for all heavens would i bother to find a solution, and waste so much time and effort to make it work
Third - I have being as polite as any person can be, with or without, this hitch, don't judge, about being angry or not, you don't know me well enough to know the difference, just stick to the point in question without getting personal.
Fourth - What I have described is EXACTLY to a tee what is happening to me, what happened to YOU , is IRRELEVANT, you may be one of the lucky ones who has no issues installing the roms in questions. so unless you do have a suggestion as to finding the reason the fone loops on boot, skip what you did or didn't do, they are IRRELEVANT, because they don't provide a solution.
Fifth - If you read my descriptions you will notice the many times I installed customs roms on the many galaxy's and Note's I have/had.That ought to clue you that i know a basic way on how to do the installations (Odin, recovery, teamwin. cmw,) you name it I've done it, and i've unbricked more than once my fones. so yes i do know how to use Odin
Sixth - For some reason I was able to install the "HASSAN" rom (the ONLY and ONLY) 4.4.2 custom that worked. the others they just won't, PERIOD
So if you have a technical solution as to how to get a log of the looping so we can tell exactly at what point the fone loops. or some other technical solutions, please let me know them asap I am dying to see my fone with a custom 4.4.2,
Seventh - Yes I am extremely disappointed that the S5 is just not fantastic enough to lay 455GBP to pre-order. there are a few more advances but it is "ALMOST" good = the bezel didn't disappear - the 2K display isn't there - the sharper casing is still missing - the better battery is still not there - the wireless charging - To have 2000 horse power engine under the hood of a beat up VW beatle. doesn't make you good looking enough to go cruising on a saturday nite and brag about your "car" -
BTW = I am absolutely no fan of the Iphone (yuk) nor of Sony (which is as restricted as apple)
Can you help solve my issue - thanks

[Q] ROM/Module & Other Question about my GS4

Hi guys, have a few questions...
For starters, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 / AT&T
Running Android 4.4.2 Rooted with Towel Root
Connected on Straight Talk
~NC1
SafeStrap 3.72 (TWRP v2.7.0.0) Installed.
Im new to all this ROM/Modules and Rooting stuff.
Last time i fully customized stuff was on my Motorola RZR ages ago
making my keypad/ LED light blink with calls, and replacing the Cingular Logo
with a Pirate/2 Swords Logo. hah... good times.
I mean there was jail-breaking and whatnot but...that's easy stuff.
Any who, Im a quick learner so on to the subject.
My original idea was to FULLY customize this phone and install ROMS/other OS, thats
what im all about, customization. Sadly, i realized im on a NC1 which its Boot loader is
locked if im understanding correctly preventing me from installing other? ROMS?
However if i understood correctly, we still can install certain ROMS? Whats the difference?
Is there any ROM i can install that is clean? no bloatware? but with everything I need?
Whats the best, fastest and best looking ROM i can get? or they dont look different because the
boot loader thing? Or they can only be Samsung/AT&T roms? This stuff can be confusing. lol
Module wise, why do i need them? why arent they included in the actual ROM?
Also, is there any App/or way for me to know what causes my phone to randomly crash/reboot?
A few months ago I was at the GYM and my phone randomly shut off. It didnt want to turn back on.
After a while it turned back on, then it would randomly reboot. That eventually went away.
Last night, i was with some friends in a bar and my phone just turned off again. Didnt wanna turn
on...then the same reboot thing happened again.
Today, is working fine. I thought maybe it was an overheat issue but, i wasnt doing anything on my
phone and on top of that im using a CPU tempt program installed through xPosed and according to the
readings it wasnt hot, as it was in the 50-55c (or is that too hot?) Im at home now and its reading
36c but i dont have its case on (if that makes any difference)
There are 3 kind of "ROM"s :
1- Official ones. made by samsung. flashable via odin exclusively. not rooted
2- A bit modified (maybe more than a bit) Official ones, modified by people, flashable via odin or recovery (1), usually already rooted
3- Completely rewritten ROMS, almost made from scratch (Cyanogenmod, MIUI for exemple...), installable via recovery. already rooted
Now, your phone can be in two states : Rooted or not rooted.
From factory, your phone is not rooted (you can compare it to jailbreak)
with root, you become a "super user", which means you have rights on almost every single aspect of your phone, and you give authorisations to apps so they can act on system files (for exemple, they can get hidden informations, they can automatically install apps etc... infinite possibilites there are.)
As for the best rom there is, is like asking what is the best music ever, it depends on the user, you have to try by yourself to find the one that satisfies you the most.
For random reboots, i personally think that it is comparable to windows Blue Screen of Deaths. you maybe messed up something while installing something. your phone can't handle the bug, so it restart or shut down itself. so the safest way to get rid of this problem is to factory reset your phone (via the recovery)
if you are looking for stableness, don't opt for completely remade ROMS, they are usually experimental. but personally i use MIUI and i didn't have any problem and i love this ROM.
Hope i answered every question.
Thanks a lot for the reply.
I understand a bit better now...
That MIUI looks interesting... Reminded me of DreamPassport for my Sega Dreamcast, hah...
I'm guessing I cant install that one huh? Lol
well since you already have a custom recovery you can... just download a miui rom (one for your phone version (be carefull about the model) ) then put it on the root of your sd card, go to the custom recovery and flash zip from sdcard and choose it... but i advice you to factory reset your phone first in order to fix your reboot problem.
also, make sure you have installed the right android version before installing the equivalent miui version (for exemple if you want to install miui that requires 4.2, install an official 4.2 rom first) via odin.
Gotcha. Thanks.
One last question....
If I want my phone with the original OS it came with. But with all the bloatware removed...
which rom would be the best? , since I want the stock experience but no bloatware.
Also...
I noticed when you click to see how much ram is being used, it says
800/1.77GB
Isnt my phone suppose to have 2GB? Can I do something to get that back? is it cause the bloatware?
I appreciate the help.
Raging Tiger said:
Gotcha. Thanks.
One last question....
If I want my phone with the original OS it came with. But with all the bloatware removed...
which rom would be the best? , since I want the stock experience but no bloatware.
Also...
I noticed when you click to see how much ram is being used, it says
800/1.77GB
Isnt my phone suppose to have 2GB? Can I do something to get that back? is it cause the bloatware?
I appreciate the help.
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I don't think the above information is correct.
From what I know the AT&T has a locked bootloader. So you can run custom roms, just not all of them. I think only custom roms that match the version you are using.
You could better read in the section for the AT&T (this section is for a different model).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att

[Q] Fusion ROM 5.0.2 Galaxy S5 klte. Need Explanation On How You Update it.

Hi,
I have a stable and working Galaxy S5 klte with Fusion ROM 5.0.2.
It's overclocked etc and I'd like to know how to update my ROMl without losing my settings.
I used to run with CM12 5.0.2 but that was easy update with twrp and I still had my setting and the update.
I got twrp here as well and root obviously but I'm not entirely sure how to update this ROM.
Current Fusion verison: Fusion-v5.0-2015-01-27
Dowloaded:
Fusion-v5.1-2015-02-07-fusionsp_klteusc.zip.md5sum(0,13kb)
Fusion-v5.1-2015-02-07-fusionsp_klteusc.zip(252.42 MB)
I just need to know how to install this and keep my settings because my current ROM is very stable and the kernel is up to date.
A little info about what's on it and working:
Working: Camera(amazing photos and 4K recording), NFC, Bluetooth, WiFi, LTE, Viper4android(amazing sound/surround.) And all basic stuff like calling/messages.
No crashes, lags or stutterers. It's smooth like butter(smoother than any iPhone, 6+ and note 4(testet it).
All my apps/games are working perfectly and smooth.
Specs:
klte 5.0.2(obviously) running Nova launcher, usually 1,1gb RAM available.
Antutu benchmark 47.XXX evern up to 48.XXX went above Note 4.
I/O scheduler: vr
CPU: 2,764 MHz
GPU: 657 MHz
DPI: 528
Governors: usually on performance with great battery life and not overheating.
Fast charge enabled and fully working.
I will appreciate it so much if I get an detailed explanation on how to update my ROM but still keep my settings.
You update custom ROMs the same way you update any custom ROM (apart from the very rare cases when the dev included an OTA updater)
Flash from TWRP
*Detection* said:
You update custom ROMs the same way you update any custom ROM (apart from the very rare cases when the dev included an OTA updater)
Flash from TWRP
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So I just basically go into twrp recovery>install and check the 2 files I have downloaded?
Are you sure about this?
Thanks.
Edit: I can only see one of the files twrp install which is: Fusion-v5.1-2015-02-07-fusionsp_klteusc.zip(252.42 MB) the .md5sum(0,13kb) doesn't show up?
The MD5 file isn't flashable, just to check the ROM is not damaged before flashing
You just flash updates the same way as you flashed the ROM to start with, the updated version is a full ROM, not just an update - so you can flash over the top, or wipe and flash as a new ROM
Generally speaking, I would wipe SYSTEM and CACHE, then flash the ROM & GAPPS, but as it's an updated version of the same ROM, flashing straight over the top will likely work fine (Dirty flash)
*Detection* said:
The MD5 file isn't flashable, just to check the ROM is not damaged before flashing
You just flash updates the same way as you flashed the ROM to start with, the updated version is a full ROM, not just an update - so you can flash over the top, or wipe and flash as a new ROM
Generally speaking, I would wipe SYSTEM and CACHE, then flash the ROM & GAPPS, but as it's an updated version of the same ROM, flashing straight over the top will likely work fine (Dirty flash)
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The whole point was to update without losing my settings but I guess that's not possible if I wipe system?
Popavalium said:
The whole point was to update without losing my settings but I guess that's not possible if I wipe system?
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The majority of things like homescreen layout and apps etc are saved in DATA, only actual system settings are saved in SYSTEM
Just go for the dirty flash first, only wipe CACHE - if you run into issues, wipe SYSTEM and flash it again
*Detection* said:
The majority of things like homescreen layout and apps etc are saved in DATA, only actual system settings are saved in SYSTEM
Just go for the dirty flash first, only wipe CACHE - if you run into issues, wipe SYSTEM and flash it again
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Alright, should I leave Dalvik Cache?
Sorry for so many questions I just need to be sure.
I'll do a backup and go with the dirty flash.
Wipe all CACHES, to put it simply, they are basically temp folders
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Wipe all CACHES, to put it simply, they are basically temp folders
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I just tried it both ways and got this.
E: MD5 does not match
E: Aborting zip install
Failed
You copied the ROM.zip and the .MD5 to the phone/microSD before flashing?
If I remember right, with TWRP you can disable MD5 checking before flashing
This whole process is the same as the process you flashed the previous ROM version with, apart from the wiping everything part
*Detection* said:
You copied the ROM.zip and the .MD5 to the phone/microSD before flashing?
If I remember right, with TWRP you can disable MD5 checking before flashing
This whole process is the same as the process you flashed the previous ROM version with, apart from the wiping everything part
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You can skip doin MD5 on backups with twrp.
But I know that Fusion has his own version of twrp which might do the trick.
Doesn't sound like the TWRP version is the problem if it thinks the MD5 is not matching, unless for some reason this version can not read fusions MD5 files, but worth a shot I suppose
Did you unzip the MD5 if it was zipped?
Maybe the download of the ROM was corrupted
Where did you get it from, I can't see an XDA thread for that named ROM (Could be blind)
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Doesn't sound like the TWRP version is the problem if it thinks the MD5 is not matching, unless for some reason this version can not read fusions MD5 files, but worth a shot I suppose
Did you unzip the MD5 if it was zipped?
Maybe the download of the ROM was corrupted
Where did you get it from, I can't see an XDA thread for that named ROM (Could be blind)
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I got it from Fusions downloads/updates in the phone settings, you can also get it from fusions site
I installed fusions twrp and removed Caches did a "Dirty Flash" and it worked. Fusions twrp skipped MD5.
http://www.fusion-rom.tk/
Here's a XDA about it but I didn't get stuff from there, just fusions site.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...op-5-0-1r1-t2961279/post57228165#post57228165
Thank you very much for your time and help. Appreciate it.
Ah good, pleased you got it sorted, yea they must have done something weird with the MD5 if they are providing a modded TWRP to skip checking
Thanks for the links, I`ll check it out
*Detection* said:
Ah good, pleased you got it sorted, yea they must have done something weird with the MD5 if they are providing a modded TWRP to skip checking
Thanks for the links, I`ll check it out
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No problem.
I was really desperate to get the latest update since I made my settings exactly the way I wanted. And the only thing I wasn't sure of was how to update. Now I got the latest and I'm extremely satisfied.
You should definitely check this ROM out if you have a S5 that supports it.
With the right settings it makes the S5 top tier phone that actually beats note 4 in performance, the speed, ability to overclock GPU, CPU, increase DPI, fast charge, amazing and tons of features. I believe it's the best S5 ROM. It's unbelievable how smooth it is even with animations on it doesn't lag or stutter a single time. Simply a beast. The battery life couldn't be better either. You can see my specs on first the first post.
Take care.
My S5 is still a virgin at the minute, only had it 3 weeks or so, not even rooted yet because I jumped into Lollipop too soon before finding out about KNOX, so for now I'm just biding my time hoping for a root method that won't trip KNOX
I've favourited the fusionROM thread/site though, watched a video of it on YT too, looks a great ROM, definitely one to keep in mind for when I de-flower her
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My S5 is still a virgin at the minute, only had it 3 weeks or so, not even rooted yet because I jumped into Lollipop too soon before finding out about KNOX, so for now I'm just biding my time hoping for a root method that won't trip KNOX
I've favourited the fusionROM thread/site though, watched a video of it on YT too, looks a great ROM, definitely one to keep in mind for when I de-flower her
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Oh I see. Well, there are root methods that can bypass Knox. I've read about it before.
I believe it was towelroot or something like that but idk if it's available for lollipop though:/.
You can also mount your SD card normally and save/delete anything from the phone, so all that bull**** is gone with this ROM.
Yea, everything changed with Lollipop, no root methods available without tripping KNOX yet
I`ll eventually fold and root it / recovery / custom ROM, but for now it's still a new toy and I`m happy with it as it is (Ads aside)
Plus I use mobile banking on my phone, and from what Ive read, it's a bit more complicated than just using a root hider to get it working when rooted, so a few things putting me off rooting atm
I've spent the last 4-5 years playing with Custom ROMs and recoveries, CWM, TWRP etc with the TF101 tablet, so I know my way around fine, but thanks to Samsung, things are not as straight forward with the S5/Lollipop/KNOX
Like I say though, it's only a matter of time before I buckle and push the button
*Detection* said:
My S5 is still a virgin at the minute, only had it 3 weeks or so, not even rooted yet because I jumped into Lollipop too soon before finding out about KNOX, so for now I'm just biding my time hoping for a root method that won't trip KNOX
I've favourited the fusionROM thread/site though, watched a video of it on YT too, looks a great ROM, definitely one to keep in mind for when I de-flower her
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Yea, everything changed with Lollipop, no root methods available without tripping KNOX yet
I`ll eventually fold and root it / recovery / custom ROM, but for now it's still a new toy and I`m happy with it as it is (Ads aside)
Plus I use mobile banking on my phone, and from what Ive read, it's a bit more complicated than just using a root hider to get it working when rooted, so a few things putting me off rooting atm
I've spent the last 4-5 years playing with Custom ROMs and recoveries, CWM, TWRP etc with the TF101 tablet, so I know my way around fine, but thanks to Samsung, things are not as straight forward with the S5/Lollipop/KNOX
Like I say though, it's only a matter of time before I buckle and push the button
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I know exactly how you feel. The temptation to unleash all that power and speed is so strong. Not to mention the ability to outperform your friends new note 4 or any other top tier smartphone they get, just too much fun. I'm less experienced than you so I was a bit scared about the same things but in the end the urge won. And I don't regret it at all. Samsung's bloatware and stock ROM with touch wiz is just slow and unattractive. But yeah, it can satisfy you for a while the moment you get if.

I-9505G, planning to install Optimized Lineage OS 14.1, few questions

Hello folks,
I rooted my Galaxy S4 Play Edition (I9505G) a while ago and it is still on baseband version I9505GUEUDNL3 (Build number, LRX21P.S012.141205, android version 5.0). In all honesty, I do not remember all the things went in rooting but I do remember, I used Odin. I don't remember if I installed recovery like TWRP (but when I boot into recovery, it boots regularly with all command line prompts and stuff).
I didn't install ROM at that time because I was playing around with my old Motorola XT910 and while I could install CyanogenMod, the performance of the phone was rather worse. Hence didn't dare to screw up this phone. Now I managed to update XT910 to Lineage OS 14.1 and it works amazingly. That prompted me to try out on Galaxy S4.
My questions with this ROM installation are as follows. It will be great if someone can help me or at least give me some good pointers.
- Where do I find system image of Galaxy S4, android version 5.0 so that should things go bad, I can go back to how it is now.
- How do I find out if I have installed recovery or not? If I have not, how do I install it? There are many directions on the web and some suggest to send it through ADB but is there any GUI, like Odin that I can use?
- What happens if I have installed recovery and still try to install TWRP?
- After TWRP installation, should I wipe system folder to install new ROM?
If there is any video made by any of you experts, would love to take a look.
Thanks again for all help.
You could probably get the system image from sammobile.com.
If you used Odin to root it, then you should also be able to use Odin to install the recovery.
Of course you should wipe everything. You're about to install a completely different version of Android, and not just the version is different, but the probably the whole structure too. So it's not wise to keep old system files or data.
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You could probably get the system image from sammobile.com.
If you used Odin to root it, then you should also be able to use Odin to install the recovery.
Of course you should wipe everything. You're about to install a completely different version of Android, and not just the version is different, but the probably the whole structure too. So it's not wise to keep old system files or data.
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Many thanks for your reply.
I could not find my phone under firmware on sammobile.com They have S4 Zoom but not S4 per se. I do plan to take a backup before I proceed, still having an image will make me feel lot more secure.
If you know, could you please comment on recovery question. I tried booting power, home and volume up button and it goes in stock recovery. Since I don't remember if I installed recovery during rooting, its making me feel a little anxious.
Thanks in advance.
fuzzychicken said:
Many thanks for your reply.
I could not find my phone under firmware on sammobile.com They have S4 Zoom but not S4 per se. I do plan to take a backup before I proceed, still having an image will make me feel lot more secure.
If you know, could you please comment on recovery question. I tried booting power, home and volume up button and it goes in stock recovery. Since I don't remember if I installed recovery during rooting, its making me feel a little anxious.
Thanks in advance.
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If it's the stock recovery then you obviously did not install any custom recovery.

N00b w/ "new SGH-I337 that is running original kernel & 4.2.2 & needs to be updated

N00b w/ "new SGH-I337 that is running original kernel & 4.2.2 & needs to be updated
I am going to apologize from the start. I've read through a lot of threads here and have ended up more confused (and somewhat scared lol). I am a tad more skilled than average when it comes to PCs but I'm a complete mess when it comes to phones!
For various reasons, I like my old ATT Samsung S4 SGH-I337 but am hard on them and need to replace them about every 2 years (I usually wear out the power port among other things). I buy a replacement, copy over my apps, etc, maybe run a minor update and I'm good to go. This time, I bought a "new" open box S4 on Ebay for a great price but when I went to install all my apps, discovered that it was STILL (since it was "brand new") running Android 4.2.2 and the original kernel from the release in 2013! Ok, no big I thought, I will just run the ATT update and I will be good. Nope. Too far out of date and no one at ATT or Samsung is willing to help. I did learn that if I can get 4.4.4 on the phone, then I should be able to update it via ATT to 5.0.1 but I can't even find those files (or at the least any links to them that are still any good!)
Due to life issues, it is critical that I get this phone updated ASAP. Please, can someone spell out step by step in N00b-speak where I can get the needed files and how I update this phone to 5.0.1 or better? I'd really rather not root it if I can avoid it but will do what is needed. I'll buy you a beer (or reasonable beverage of your choice! )
Samsung Galaxy S4 (ATT) SGH_I337
Android 4.2.2
Baseband ver: I337UCUAMDL
Kernel ver: 3.4.0-453947
[email protected]#1
Sat April 27 17:06:05 KST 2013
SilkRoadDog said:
I am going to apologize from the start. I've read through a lot of threads here and have ended up more confused (and somewhat scared lol). I am a tad more skilled than average when it comes to PCs but I'm a complete mess when it comes to phones!
For various reasons, I like my old ATT Samsung S4 SGH-I337 but am hard on them and need to replace them about every 2 years (I usually wear out the power port among other things). I buy a replacement, copy over my apps, etc, maybe run a minor update and I'm good to go. This time, I bought a "new" open box S4 on Ebay for a great price but when I went to install all my apps, discovered that it was STILL (since it was "brand new") running Android 4.2.2 and the original kernel from the release in 2013! Ok, no big I thought, I will just run the ATT update and I will be good. Nope. Too far out of date and no one at ATT or Samsung is willing to help. I did learn that if I can get 4.4.4 on the phone, then I should be able to update it via ATT to 5.0.1 but I can't even find those files (or at the least any links to them that are still any good!)
Due to life issues, it is critical that I get this phone updated ASAP. Please, can someone spell out step by step in N00b-speak where I can get the needed files and how I update this phone to 5.0.1 or better? I'd really rather not root it if I can avoid it but will do what is needed. I'll buy you a beer (or reasonable beverage of your choice! )
Samsung Galaxy S4 (ATT) SGH_I337
Android 4.2.2
Baseband ver: I337UCUAMDL
Kernel ver: 3.4.0-453947
[email protected]#1
Sat April 27 17:06:05 KST 2013
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I too was lucky enough to snag a S4 off ebay with the original kernel still on it. So with that said....do NOT update your phone! You're on the very special Android 4.2.2 jelly bean MDL bootloader! If you update, you will lose the ability to boot AOSP ROMs and install a custom recovery like TWRP.
AOSP ROMs can take you past Android 5.0.x lollipop and give you Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat. You can also boot custom touchwiz ROMs that will take you to Android 5.0.x lollipop. Use the towel root app to root the phone and then freeze any OTA with the titanium backup app. You can also benefit from my guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
StoneyJSG said:
I too was lucky enough to snag a S4 off ebay with the original kernel still on it. So with that said....do NOT update your phone! You're on the very special Android 4.2.2 jelly bean MDL bootloader! If you update, you will lose the ability to boot AOSP ROMs and install a custom recovery like TWRP.
AOSP ROMs can take you past Android 5.0.x lollipop and give you Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat. You can also boot custom touchwiz ROMs that will take you to Android 5.0.x lollipop. Use the towel root app to root the phone and then freeze any OTA with the titanium backup app. You can also benefit from my guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
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Thank you for your reply. So I root it, then where do I go from there? How do I know what ROM is what and which one will give me at the least what I had on the old phone (less bloatware would be nice but right now I am so up a creek that I would be ok with stock)? Also, do you have good links to the tools you recommend? One issue I have been having searching here is that the 3-4-year-old posts here have sketchy or dead links.
SilkRoadDog said:
Thank you for your reply. So I root it, then where do I go from there? How do I know what ROM is what and which one will give me at the least what I had on the old phone (less bloatware would be nice but right now I am so up a creek that I would be ok with stock)? Also, do you have good links to the tools you recommend? One issue I have been having searching here is that the 3-4-year-old posts here have sketchy or dead links.
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No problem, I always try to help when possible. After rooting you can follow my guide to get Loki doki installed. Then you can install a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod. My guide gets you clock work mod recovery installed but it's an old version. I use it though and it works fine for me. If you want TWRP recovery, you will have to search the web on how to install it with loki doki.
After a custom recovery is installed you can choose to boot touchwiz based ROMs or AOSP based ROMs like cyanogen mod. Custom touchwiz ROMs will look just like stock only modified (deodex, debloated, etc.) and AOSP ROMs will look like bone stock Android only with added features.
You can find AOSP ROMs in the original Android development forum here in the s4 forums. You can find touchwiz ROMs in Android development which is right under original Android development forum. Sorry, but I don't have any links to tools handy except for the link to my guide which I posted above in my last post. I use golden eye ROM on my s4 which is a stock based touchwiz ROM on Android 5.0 lollipop.
When booting ROMs, be sure that they do not have a bootloader update or else it'll override everything and will patch the loki doki exploit and lock down everything for good.
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No problem, I always try to help when possible. After rooting you can follow my guide to get Loki doki installed. Then you can install a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod. My guide gets you clock work mod recovery installed but it's an old version. I use it though and it works fine for me. If you want TWRP recovery, you will have to search the web on how to install it with loki doki.
After a custom recovery is installed you can choose to boot touchwiz based ROMs or AOSP based ROMs like cyanogen mod. Custom touchwiz ROMs will look just like stock only modified (deodex, debloated, etc.) and AOSP ROMs will look like bone stock Android only with added features.
You can find AOSP ROMs in the original Android development forum here in the s4 forums. You can find touchwiz ROMs in Android development which is right under original Android development forum. Sorry, but I don't have any links to tools handy except for the link to my guide which I posted above in my last post. I use golden eye ROM on my s4 which is a stock based touchwiz ROM on Android 5.0 lollipop.
When booting ROMs, be sure that they do not have a bootloader update or else it'll override everything and will patch the loki doki exploit and lock down everything for good.
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Thank you so much for the reply. While I am very grateful, with all due respect, I understood only about half of it. Here is the deal. I'm an older guy N00b with chronic pain issues under an extreme amount of stress, and my cognitive abilities are not what they should be. There was a step by step guide posted back in 2015 that is what I need but most of the links are bad or sketchy. Like I said above, I really need something along the lines of "go here and here to get this software and put it in "X" place. Then press these keys and do "Y", then press those keys and do "Z". I'm really sorry to be so difficult but I am trying my best to get it.
SilkRoadDog said:
Thank you so much for the reply. While I am very grateful, with all due respect, I understood only about half of it. Here is the deal. I'm an older guy N00b with chronic pain issues under an extreme amount of stress, and my cognitive abilities are not what they should be. There was a step by step guide posted back in 2015 that is what I need but most of the links are bad or sketchy. Like I said above, I really need something along the lines of "go here and here to get this software and put it in "X" place. Then press these keys and do "Y", then press those keys and do "Z". I'm really sorry to be so difficult but I am trying my best to get it.
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I gotcha, no problem. Okay so what's the status of your phone now? Rooted? Not rooted? To root, goto https://towelroot.com on your phone and click the big red thing in the middle of the page. Make sure you have a Wi-Fi or data connection to the internet, as this will root your phone. Then goto https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...tt-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/amp/ to get loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery. You can also install TWRP recovery instead of clockwork mod recovery, I THINK this is the link: https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...rp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/amp/
Galaxys4root.com is a reputable site ran by Mr. HIGH ON ANDROID himself, Xedomax aka Max Lee. The tools you need should be on his site for download and the links shouldn't be dead. He also has a YouTube channel with videos on how to do different things with your phone. My guide I wrote that I linked before, has step by step instructions on how to root and install a custom recovery and how to boot custom ROMs.
StoneyJSG said:
I gotcha, no problem. Okay so what's the status of your phone now? Rooted? Not rooted? To root, goto https://towelroot.com on your phone and click the big red thing in the middle of the page. Make sure you have a Wi-Fi or data connection to the internet, as this will root your phone. Then goto https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...tt-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/amp/ to get loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery. You can also install TWRP recovery instead of clockwork mod recovery, I THINK this is the link: https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...rp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/amp/
Galaxys4root.com is a reputable site ran by Mr. HIGH ON ANDROID himself, Xedomax aka Max Lee. The tools you need should be on his site for download and the links shouldn't be dead. He also has a YouTube channel with videos on how to do different things with your phone. My guide I wrote that I linked before, has step by step instructions on how to root and install a custom recovery and how to boot custom ROMs.
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Ok, It's not rooted yet so I will start down the path laid out. What do you recommend as a source for Touchwiz (wth is that anyway? lol) ROMs? I don't know enough about Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat to make the call there but I do want to be able to access the Google apps and play store as before.
SilkRoadDog said:
Ok, It's not rooted yet so I will start down the path laid out. What do you recommend as a source for Touchwiz (wth is that anyway? lol) ROMs? I don't know enough about Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat to make the call there but I do want to be able to access the Google apps and play store as before.
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Your instructions say " Next, you're going to want to freeze the OTA update so the phone won't update off the MDL bootloader (after installing SuperSU of course). You can do this via the Titanium Backup app or the MyBackup Root app (now called just MyBackup I think).
Let's recap...you will need a copy of the towel root app, then SuperSU, then TB or MyBackup Root app. SuperSU will kill the evil KNOX for you." Do I do that before "loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery."? If so, where is a good source for them? If not, when do I do I install them?
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StoneyJSG said:
I gotcha, no problem. Okay so what's the status of your phone now? Rooted? Not rooted? To root, goto https://towelroot.com on your phone and click the big red thing in the middle of the page. Make sure you have a Wi-Fi or data connection to the internet, as this will root your phone. Then goto https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...tt-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/amp/ to get loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery. You can also install TWRP recovery instead of clockwork mod recovery, I THINK this is the link: https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...rp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/amp/
Galaxys4root.com is a reputable site ran by Mr. HIGH ON ANDROID himself, Xedomax aka Max Lee. The tools you need should be on his site for download and the links shouldn't be dead. He also has a YouTube channel with videos on how to do different things with your phone. My guide I wrote that I linked before, has step by step instructions on how to root and install a custom recovery and how to boot custom ROMs.
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Ok, forget anything I typed here in the last hour lol. Somehow there were two locals and I was in the wrong one. So far so good. So back to the other question above. " " Next, you're going to want to freeze the OTA update so the phone won't update off the MDL bootloader (after installing SuperSU of course). You can do this via the Titanium Backup app or the MyBackup Root app (now called just MyBackup I think).
Let's recap...you will need a copy of the towel root app, then SuperSU, then TB or MyBackup Root app. SuperSU will kill the evil KNOX for you."" I still need to do that, right? if so, where do I find those apps?
Thank you so much.
SilkRoadDog said:
Ok, It's not rooted yet so I will start down the path laid out. What do you recommend as a source for Touchwiz (wth is that anyway? lol) ROMs? I don't know enough about Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat to make the call there but I do want to be able to access the Google apps and play store as before.
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Touchwiz is the "skin" user interface that Samsung puts on top of Android. It is the stock SAMSUNG rom. Just Google touchwiz then Google stock Android, you'll see a difference. I like touchwiz so I am running a custom ROM called "Golden eye". You can download it from the Android development forum here in the S4 section. Other people like stock Android. The magic of being on the MDL bootloader is that you can boot touchwiz and bone stock Android ROMs. Most custom ROMs both stock Android and touchwiz based will let you access Google apps and the play store.
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SilkRoadDog said:
Ok, forget anything I typed here in the last hour lol. Somehow there were two locals and I was in the wrong one. So far so good. So back to the other question above. " " Next, you're going to want to freeze the OTA update so the phone won't update off the MDL bootloader (after installing SuperSU of course). You can do this via the Titanium Backup app or the MyBackup Root app (now called just MyBackup I think).
Let's recap...you will need a copy of the towel root app, then SuperSU, then TB or MyBackup Root app. SuperSU will kill the evil KNOX for you."" I still need to do that, right? if so, where do I find those apps?
Thank you so much.
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You can get all those app except towel root on the play store. Once installed you can use ES file explorer to back them up to apk files then use the my files app that's on ya phone to move them to your SD card for use with your new ROM or keep them where they are since my guide tells you how to keep your data in tact...well for touch wiz ROMs anyway.
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Touchwiz is the "skin" user interface that Samsung puts on top of Android. It is the stock SAMSUNG rom. Just Google touchwiz then Google stock Android, you'll see a difference. I like touchwiz so I am running a custom ROM called "Golden eye". You can download it from the Android development forum here in the S4 section. Other people like stock Android. The magic of being on the MDL bootloader is that you can boot touchwiz and bone stock Android ROMs. Most custom ROMs both stock Android and touchwiz based will let you access Google apps and the play store.
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You can get all those app except towel root on the play store. Once installed you can use ES file explorer to back them up to apk files then use the my files app that's on ya phone to move them to your SD card for use with your new ROM or keep them where they are since my guide tells you how to keep your data in tact...well for touch wiz ROMs anyway.
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Since this is a "new" phone and I have nothing to back up yet, do I need to run a backup or can I follow your guide from that point, clean things up and install the ROM of choice?
SilkRoadDog said:
Since this is a "new" phone and I have nothing to back up yet, do I need to run a backup or can I follow your guide from that point, clean things up and install the ROM of choice?
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It's always good to make a backup in case anything goes wrong with your phone down the road you can get back to where you started without having to flash the MDL stock Rom in ODIN by connecting your phone to your computer. You should though keep a copy of ODIN and the MDL bootloader .tar ODIN file. However, it's entirely optional to make a back up so you could just follow the guide from that point and clean up for a ROM install if you don't want to make a backup.
You can also boot a ROM and then make a backup after you have everything set up. You can back up the stock Rom or any ROM you boot/install. That's the magic of having a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod.
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It's always good to make a backup in case anything goes wrong with your phone down the road you can get back to where you started without having to flash the MDL stock Rom in ODIN by connecting your phone to your computer. You should though keep a copy of ODIN and the MDL bootloader .tar ODIN file. However, it's entirely optional to make a back up so you could just follow the guide from that point and clean up for a ROM install if you don't want to make a backup.
You can also boot a ROM and then make a backup after you have everything set up. You can back up the stock Rom or any ROM you boot/install. That's the magic of having a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod.
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Unfortunately, since I already started the install before seeing this, I have no idea what I backed up or where it is. :crying:
First off, I want to thank you so much for the help. I owe you and would like to buy you a beer or the like. I have my phone back now! There were issues with the Golden Eye install (it froze at the Samsung logo for over an hour) and I had to wipe everything and start over then I was able to get it up and running. Is this the right one? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Quick question: Do you know if that ROM supports an external SD card larger than 32gig?
I am having some issues and so far am not thrilled with this ROM and am wondering if it's the right one or if I screwed up. It hasn't been worked on since 2015 and the dev is hasn't been responsive in years. On my phone, it's really buggy. It boots slow, apps hang when loading, a few don't work right, the screen can flash or freeze and TouchWiz keeps crashing like it was doing at the end on my old phone's life. Any ideas as to why?
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Unfortunately, since I already started the install before seeing this, I have no idea what I backed up or where it is. :crying:
First off, I want to thank you so much for the help. I owe you and would like to buy you a beer or the like. I have my phone back now! There were issues with the Golden Eye install (it froze at the Samsung logo for over an hour) and I had to wipe everything and start over then I was able to get it up and running. Is this the right one? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Quick question: Do you know if that ROM supports an external SD card larger than 32gig?
I am having some issues and so far am not thrilled with this ROM and am wondering if it's the right one or if I screwed up. It hasn't been worked on since 2015 and the dev is hasn't been responsive in years. On my phone, it's really buggy. It boots slow, apps hang when loading, a few don't work right, the screen can flash or freeze and TouchWiz keeps crashing like it was doing at the end on my old phone's life. Any ideas as to why?
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If you made a nandroid backup with TWRP recovery or clockwork mod recovery, then the backup file will be on your phone SD card or internal memory. Use the my files app to find it. It should be under a folder called TWRP or clockwork mod.
Hey no problem man, I know how it is to goto a forum and have 87,000 people view your post yet nothing is said. Yes that link is the correct link to golden eye ROM. When booting a ROM for the first time it will get stuck at the Samsung logo for awhile, this is normal but it shouldn't be more than 20 minutes. I think the S4 can handle SD cards up to 128GB, it might only be 64GB though.
Very odd golden eye ROM is giving you issues, I have only had one problem with it and that was the text message app acting up every so often. When you booted golden eye did you use the Aroma installer so it just asks you questions and you pick what you want? If not wipe and start over using aroma, it's built into the ROM. Also be sure to tell Aroma you want to use the "imperium kernel". That's the kernel I am using. Golden eye ROM doesn't have a bootloader update in it, so you'll stay on MDL and not have to worry about your phone patching the loki exploit.
I think you can also use the hybrid max kernel, but I don't think it's in the Aroma installer so if you want it you will have to download it from the forums here and flash it separately.
Another thing you can try is just "nuking your phone" as explained in my guide that wipes everything and gives you a nice clean install. The only reason I included the "keep your data" method in my guide is because I just stumbled upon it by doing it on my phone.
If all else fails and as a last ditch effort, you could send the phone to me and I will see if I can get it up and running with golden eye ROM, then send it back. No guarantees though as I'm no developer or anything, just a guy that knows the basics of Android ROMs and root.
Final report. It turns out the problems I've been having were related to the SU Super App. There have been complaints about the recent version. I thought that it was a corrupt install of Golden Eye so got a clean DL from another mirror and was getting ready to start all over. This time I was going to follow the dev's install instructions step by step instead of yours and his. However, I couldn't install TWRP as he instructed. It hung at 100% and never completed. I thought that maybe Super SU was the issue there so I uninstalled it and all of my other problems went away! So happy. Thank you for everything. I do owe you a drink!
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Final report. It turns out the problems I've been having were related to the SU Super App. There have been complaints about the recent version. I thought that it was a corrupt install of Golden Eye so got a clean DL from another mirror and was getting ready to start all over. This time I was going to follow the dev's install instructions step by step instead of yours and his. However, I couldn't install TWRP as he instructed. It hung at 100% and never completed. I thought that maybe Super SU was the issue there so I uninstalled it and all of my other problems went away! So happy. Thank you for everything. I do owe you a drink!
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Hey glad it finally worked out for you. You will need superSU though, try a different version of it and that might fix the issue you're having with the latest version. That is unless you have the kingroot super user app, then you can use that but it's not as good as superSU. I had problems with it authorizing my root apps so I got rid of it and installed superSU. No problem glad to help and no thanks needed but if you really wanna buy me a beer go for it lol.

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