[Q] ROM/Module & Other Question about my GS4 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys, have a few questions...
For starters, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 / AT&T
Running Android 4.4.2 Rooted with Towel Root
Connected on Straight Talk
~NC1
SafeStrap 3.72 (TWRP v2.7.0.0) Installed.
Im new to all this ROM/Modules and Rooting stuff.
Last time i fully customized stuff was on my Motorola RZR ages ago
making my keypad/ LED light blink with calls, and replacing the Cingular Logo
with a Pirate/2 Swords Logo. hah... good times.
I mean there was jail-breaking and whatnot but...that's easy stuff.
Any who, Im a quick learner so on to the subject.
My original idea was to FULLY customize this phone and install ROMS/other OS, thats
what im all about, customization. Sadly, i realized im on a NC1 which its Boot loader is
locked if im understanding correctly preventing me from installing other? ROMS?
However if i understood correctly, we still can install certain ROMS? Whats the difference?
Is there any ROM i can install that is clean? no bloatware? but with everything I need?
Whats the best, fastest and best looking ROM i can get? or they dont look different because the
boot loader thing? Or they can only be Samsung/AT&T roms? This stuff can be confusing. lol
Module wise, why do i need them? why arent they included in the actual ROM?
Also, is there any App/or way for me to know what causes my phone to randomly crash/reboot?
A few months ago I was at the GYM and my phone randomly shut off. It didnt want to turn back on.
After a while it turned back on, then it would randomly reboot. That eventually went away.
Last night, i was with some friends in a bar and my phone just turned off again. Didnt wanna turn
on...then the same reboot thing happened again.
Today, is working fine. I thought maybe it was an overheat issue but, i wasnt doing anything on my
phone and on top of that im using a CPU tempt program installed through xPosed and according to the
readings it wasnt hot, as it was in the 50-55c (or is that too hot?) Im at home now and its reading
36c but i dont have its case on (if that makes any difference)

There are 3 kind of "ROM"s :
1- Official ones. made by samsung. flashable via odin exclusively. not rooted
2- A bit modified (maybe more than a bit) Official ones, modified by people, flashable via odin or recovery (1), usually already rooted
3- Completely rewritten ROMS, almost made from scratch (Cyanogenmod, MIUI for exemple...), installable via recovery. already rooted
Now, your phone can be in two states : Rooted or not rooted.
From factory, your phone is not rooted (you can compare it to jailbreak)
with root, you become a "super user", which means you have rights on almost every single aspect of your phone, and you give authorisations to apps so they can act on system files (for exemple, they can get hidden informations, they can automatically install apps etc... infinite possibilites there are.)
As for the best rom there is, is like asking what is the best music ever, it depends on the user, you have to try by yourself to find the one that satisfies you the most.
For random reboots, i personally think that it is comparable to windows Blue Screen of Deaths. you maybe messed up something while installing something. your phone can't handle the bug, so it restart or shut down itself. so the safest way to get rid of this problem is to factory reset your phone (via the recovery)
if you are looking for stableness, don't opt for completely remade ROMS, they are usually experimental. but personally i use MIUI and i didn't have any problem and i love this ROM.
Hope i answered every question.

Thanks a lot for the reply.
I understand a bit better now...
That MIUI looks interesting... Reminded me of DreamPassport for my Sega Dreamcast, hah...
I'm guessing I cant install that one huh? Lol

well since you already have a custom recovery you can... just download a miui rom (one for your phone version (be carefull about the model) ) then put it on the root of your sd card, go to the custom recovery and flash zip from sdcard and choose it... but i advice you to factory reset your phone first in order to fix your reboot problem.
also, make sure you have installed the right android version before installing the equivalent miui version (for exemple if you want to install miui that requires 4.2, install an official 4.2 rom first) via odin.

Gotcha. Thanks.
One last question....
If I want my phone with the original OS it came with. But with all the bloatware removed...
which rom would be the best? , since I want the stock experience but no bloatware.
Also...
I noticed when you click to see how much ram is being used, it says
800/1.77GB
Isnt my phone suppose to have 2GB? Can I do something to get that back? is it cause the bloatware?
I appreciate the help.

Raging Tiger said:
Gotcha. Thanks.
One last question....
If I want my phone with the original OS it came with. But with all the bloatware removed...
which rom would be the best? , since I want the stock experience but no bloatware.
Also...
I noticed when you click to see how much ram is being used, it says
800/1.77GB
Isnt my phone suppose to have 2GB? Can I do something to get that back? is it cause the bloatware?
I appreciate the help.
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I don't think the above information is correct.
From what I know the AT&T has a locked bootloader. So you can run custom roms, just not all of them. I think only custom roms that match the version you are using.
You could better read in the section for the AT&T (this section is for a different model).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att

Related

[Poll]Should I root My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 ?

Should I root My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 ?
Model : GT-N8000
Country : Malaysia
BTW will root cause the Tab to become slow ?
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA ?
As always if you have to ask then the answer is no .
You root when apps or mods require root only .
Root voids warranty ..
This is not the Tab forum do not use any firmware or mods from here on a Tab .
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA
Yes stock and original with no root for OTA .
jje
If you are happy with your Note, than it's not necessary.
I rooted mine, because it was still on 4.0.3, and that is the reason for the many bad reviews on the internet.
After upgrading to 4.1.2, it was like a whole new tablet.
JJEgan said:
As always if you have to ask then the answer is no .
You root when apps or mods require root only .
Root voids warranty ..
This is not the Tab forum do not use any firmware or mods from here on a Tab .
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA
Yes stock and original with no root for OTA .
jje
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This is not the Tab forum
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What you mean ? I tot I am at the correct forum ?
ic3tea said:
What you mean ? I tot I am at the correct forum ?
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You're from Malaysia..me too.
Btw you're in correct forum.When you wrote tab people will confuse it with galaxy tab and root will not slowing down your note.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
I actually liked my Note even at 4.0.3.. but I rooted so I could use the Multiwindow manager for multiwindow.. EVERYWHERE!
asdfuogh said:
I actually liked my Note even at 4.0.3.. but I rooted so I could use the Multiwindow manager for multiwindow.. EVERYWHERE!
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So that I will try and root but BTW just asking is HighXXXXXXXX CMW Recovery good or Darkman Recovery Good ?
TWRP is only for stock rom right ?
There are many benefits to root. All the flashable files here require it.
But technically you will void your warranty.
However there are ways to get back to stock and "unroot" so mostly no one will know the difference if you have to return it.
Both recoveries are good, but HighOnAndroid supported a couple ROMs that Darkman didn't, though I'm not sure this is still the case
blud7 said:
There are many benefits to root. All the flashable files here require it.
But technically you will void your warranty.
However there are ways to get back to stock and "unroot" so mostly no one will know the difference if you have to return it.
Both recoveries are good, but HighOnAndroid supported a couple ROMs that Darkman didn't, though I'm not sure this is still the case
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How about TWRP Recovery ? TWRP Recovery only work in stoock rom ?
ic3tea said:
So that I will try and root but BTW just asking is HighXXXXXXXX CMW Recovery good or Darkman Recovery Good ?
TWRP is only for stock rom right ?
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You will need to flash the HighXXXXXXXX CMW in ODIN to get root and cwm. You can then flash either darkman recovery with CWM, TWRP recovery or stay as is..
TWRP recovery isa modified recovery like the other 2 and requires root to use. If you look around you'll find the stock recovery too.
I root my tab with Darkman Recorvey is easy then I tot . Thx you guys .
Sent from my GT-N8000 using XDA Premium HD app
Yes! Rooting is the way to go. There are ways around the warranty issues.
My main reason for rooting is for these essential apps:
Titanium Backup
Ad Blocker
Mobile ODIN
Triangle Away
ROM Toolbox Pro
and many more apps that have useful extended capabilities once rooted.
Some Con's of rooting
1) good mobile app no longer works after rooting.
So if u use good mobile for checking corporate emails, rooting device will break this.
2) there will be some overhead for you to upgrade device when any new firmwares are released. If u are a very busy professional, then this is an overhead you can live without.
3) there are and there always will be chances that you may brick your device.
4) I think u legaly void warranty on device by unlocking it. (I am assuming u want to root to load different firmware)
I am not discouraging.. just givin you other side of the coin.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
smrsxn said:
Some Con's of rooting
1) good mobile app no longer works after rooting.
So if u use good mobile for checking corporate emails, rooting device will break this.
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Sorry to bump a three month old thread, but would anyone know whether the Lotus Traveler app used for syncing corporate email and calendar works after rooting? Good is trash, so I'm not surprised it wouldn't work. There's not much of a downside finding out for myself by rooting my Note 10.1 because I intend to keep flying stock on my Note 2; but I thought someone might save me the time and trouble.
JasW said:
Sorry to bump a three month old thread, but would anyone know whether the Lotus Traveler app used for syncing corporate email and calendar works after rooting? Good is trash, so I'm not surprised it wouldn't work. There's not much of a downside finding out for myself by rooting my Note 10.1 because I intend to keep flying stock on my Note 2; but I thought someone might save me the time and trouble.
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For Lotus Traveler - I have no idea. I am unlucky enough to have Lotus Domino for our corporate e-mail and I hate it with a passion.
I have installed and configured Aqua Mail to connect to our Domino server (IMAP) and I can confirm that it works perfectly after rooting. You just need your IT guys to ensure that you have web access enabled. I set mine to check for mail every 15 minutes, if it's more urgent than that then why is it an email anyway.
Rom Noob tips, from a noob, please feel free to correct, add or expand on any points
General rooting options
Titbits
- rooting under normal circumstances shouldnt slow your system, in fact most devs i believe will attempt to make their roms bring out the best performance from that particular tab/phone you may own, throught software optimizations, in cojunction with working as best as it can with your specific hardware, although, sometimes you may have a N8013(american wifi version), the dev may have the n8000(3g version).......n810 is the european wifi version...................weve been mixing and matching rom versions here, i.e. using a n8000 rom on a n8010 hardware, ive done it, as far as i know, no adverse effects, well at least no obvious signs of em
- Usually, the process of flashing a rom will first involve rooting your tablet, and then flashing a recovery, which replaces the official one that may already be on your tab, the official one is usually pretty limited in what you can do, the custom RECOVERY is flashed because it gives you these options, but not limited
-factory reset
used when, flashing new rom, best to use the recovery when ever you wanna factory reset, i dont know if this was a oje of, or just specific to my situation, but ive used the android factory reset on my tf201 asus prime, after having rooted, custom recovery and been running a custom rom for some time, and it soft brick, since thats happenened ive been shy to do it on any android device, which is cool, as the custom recovery is a beatiful thing.......maybe someone can expand on or correct that suspicion
- wipes
cache- wipe your app cache
Davlik - someone gonna have to chime in there
factory/data reset- brings back your android back to its original state, wipes your data, that means, all apps installed, all settings changed
format - allows you to format the different seperate sections of your android rom, example of the different sections would be......kernel, os, sd hardrive ........
nandroid - the best part of a custom recovery in my opinion, the ability to completely back up your rom, settings, apps, homescreens, widgets......essentially, restoring your android EXACTLY where you left off, the few seconds before, it takes to boot into recovery and start the backup procedure..........you can also backup and restore only certain sections of your rom, so you may decide to back up just the kernel, or you may decide to restore, JUST the kernel from a FULL previous backup (that is, all sections backed up, minus, the sd hardrive,
Unless you specifically FORMAT the sd card, it usually wont be touched......id advice caution and reading up, before making a decision to format sd harddrive, with a custom RECOVERY, that may not know the requirements to your android device, i.e. a custom kernel ported from another android device from another company....plus, formatting sd harddrive is not really a thing done all the time, not unless you are thinking about starting from scratch, i mean, REALLY fresh, disclaimer:this would wipe any files you have stored on your android devices, specifically, documents, pics, vids so on so forth
- stock rom
the original android OS shipped with the device
- stock based rom
tweaked stock rom, speed, battery other mods
-CM (CynogenMod)
third party rom, built from the ground up, kinda....there are other different flavors of third party roms, CM is one of them
-when flashing a new rom, it is strongly advised by most devs to wipe cache/davlick and factory reset....before flashing, this helps avoid any conflicts with the previous rom and the new rom......at this point, if you were to reboot, rather then flash the rom, you would have essentially reset the rom to its original state, that means re-entering your wifi, changing settings, installing apps, generally a pain in the ass, if you find your self having to do it to many times in a short period.....titanium backup(root) is your friend, does a good job at backing up your apps and wifi.....havent figured out how to backup the settings i change in the android setting
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
-quick boot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
This free app, is a life saver when your new rom doesnt give you the option to reboot into your recovery, sometime found in hold power button/restart/recovery.......just more quicker then the manual way......especially when your having to google up the hardware method because you've not done it in a while and forgotten......which i believe is power off/hold volume down key/then press hold power button/wait for samsung logo/then let go of all buttons and reapettedly press volume up key untill the recovery shows up.......if you end up in DOWNLOAD mode, hold power to switch off, and repeat the process, changing the volume key, its one or the other, one takes you to the recovery, the other to download mode......so just reverse the volume keys, same method, just up instead of down
- supersu/superuser
installable app, that hands out root permission to apps that ask for root, if you dont expresly give persmision, using a supersu app, the app asking for root permission most likely will not work.... .....this app is installed as part of the rooting process
- afwall+ (free)
third party wifi/3g firewall, requires root........allows you to control what apps are able to use your wif/3g......i think its a passive firwall, as in, it uses very little of your resources, in the way it operates
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall
- rom flashing
sometimes, if you have already flashed a custom rom, and the dev has released the next version of his custom rom, as long as no drastic changes have been made between the two versions, you are able to flash the new version over the old version, keeping all your settings/apps/homescreen/widgets.......although a cache and davlik wipe is usually suggested if doing so
ive forgotten half of what i was originally going to write, so ill just leave it there before i rack my brains .......goodluck whatever you decide
Yes :good:
if it was me?
yea i would do it. it brings life to an old tablet. the 80XX tablets were abandoned by samsung. there are custom roms for Oreo the latest Android OS for N8000. i have a 8020 but no custom roms at the moment.
Good been waiting a whole 5 years for a reply .

HELP Recovery doesn't load (is installed) & when it boots up a S.Screen-Loop appairs

HELP Recovery doesn't load (is installed) & when it boots up a S.Screen-Loop appairs
Hey
Wow, having a hard time now without my new galaxy s4.
Can't get access the recovery mode anymore and when it boots up, a screen of death appairs in a very strange way.
It seems that a script, can't load properly, because I deactivated something, that's why it allways resets itself after it's finished to display the loading samsung screen again. I can go into the system for 1-5 seconds only, then the loading screen appairs again - all the time.
I allready installed everything and it worked fine, with wanamlite rom and phil'z cwm.
But I did some security finetuning, removing (mostly freezing, but then uninstalling) lots of the bloat and spying system apps... thats why it happened. I know what I was doing, but not exactly (new apk's, new JB). Trial and Error. Allready got the results I wanted, but it wasn't finished and I messed up something.
This is fkn crazy about Android 4, coming from 2.3 - the new smartphones send ALL YOUR PRIVATE DATA EVERYWHERE (google,samsung and LOT's of other companies) in stock and even in all the roms, by default. Even Snapshots and Voice-Recordings in backround. Just go to the Options/Security/Certificated Authorities... or check the triggers with autostarts or just use a taskmanager.... 99,99% of the people aren't even aware of this.
However, I before I go crazy about all this I want to say, that I want to use the phone and all the priviledges and functions of course, but without all the spy****, that is also reducing my batterie like hell. It's not about, that the accu isn't strong enough, but it is used all the time by many different things
Ok now, what can I do ? I have a working cwm backup, but I can't access the recovery anymore!
I have access to the download mode.
I allready tried a different rom (this one) flashed with odin, after it finishes, it loads to recoveryAUTOmode, but after that, the same problem persists.
this one=this version:
Model: GT-I9505 (4.2.2)
PDA: XXUBMH1
PHONE: XXUBMH1
CSC: OXXBMH1 (29 codes) (NOTE: KIES will NOT recognize this FW due to CSC mismatch..)
Kernel: 3.4.0-1081224 (05.08)
Build Date: 05.08.2013
Changelist: 1081224
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because I wanted to use the same version as wanamlite and I don't want 4.3 yet, because of app-compatibility and some more... it's just getting worse, (android 4.4 is reallly ****ed up with wlan-on all the time..rumors..)
My Question to the developers here is exactly does Recovery need to work properly ?? (systemfiles,apk's,scripts)
Why the Samsung-Screen-Bootloop appairs and what script triggers it ?
Tried with ADB-GUI - but it doesn't seem to connect - but testing is needed, didn't try everything yet
this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237530
You know, I don't have nothing to hide, but I want to have my privacy and freedom anyway - I just want to have a clean, secure Phone as possible and I disable and uninstall everything I don't need and will never use all the bloat ****, also I don't want to send ALL my data to google, samsung and all the other companys and CA's.
If I where a developer I would probably bring out a great,clean and secure rom for everyone, however that isn't wanted by google and the big companys and the nwo agenda.
However, it seem's that allmost no one (developers and users) cares about security and privacy at all.
You can only be secure, if you root your phone and modify alot of settings, triggers and remove lot's of apps (apk's) and use several apps to do so. It normally cost's you hours to get everything in place and more hours to figure out all this stuff... but a very advanced good script, could do all the modifications in seconds. Whatever, that **** is to big for me now, I will get over it... will you get over it ? I would like to join this big elite group, if I could, because they have everything (allmost. Also I don't want to sell my soul... what a dillema
Now seriously please - I really need some help by a pro
Hope you can help me.
I think there is a good solution, it lies in downloadmode and flashing the right thing or using adb the right way.
Ok that's it. thanks for reading.
I wish you a good day and all the best.
cya
ps: my signature is over 2 years old.
(•.•) said:
Hey
Wow, having a hard time now without my new galaxy s4.
Can't get access the recovery mode anymore and when it boots up, a screen of death appairs in a very strange way.
It seems that a script, can't load properly, because I deactivated something, that's why it allways resets itself after it's finished to display the loading samsung screen again. I can go into the system for 1-5 seconds only, then the loading screen appairs again - all the time.
I allready installed everything and it worked fine, with wanamlite rom and phil'z cwm.
But I did some security finetuning, removing (mostly freezing, but then uninstalling) lots of the bloat and spying system apps... thats why it happened. I know what I was doing, but not exactly (new apk's, new JB). Trial and Error. Allready got the results I wanted, but it wasn't finished and I messed up something.
This is fkn crazy about Android 4, coming from 2.3 - the new smartphones send ALL YOUR PRIVATE DATA EVERYWHERE (google,samsung and LOT's of other companies) in stock and even in all the roms, by default. Even Snapshots and Voice-Recordings in backround. Just go to the Options/Security/Certificated Authorities... or check the triggers with autostarts or just use a taskmanager.... 99,99% of the people aren't even aware of this.
However, I before I go crazy about all this I want to say, that I want to use the phone and all the priviledges and functions of course, but without all the spy****, that is also reducing my batterie like hell. It's not about, that the accu isn't strong enough, but it is used all the time by many different things
Ok now, what can I do ? I have a working cwm backup, but I can't access the recovery anymore!
I have access to the download mode.
I allready tried a different rom (this one) flashed with odin, after it finishes, it loads to recoveryAUTOmode, but after that, the same problem persists.
this one=this version:
because I wanted to use the same version as wanamlite and I don't want 4.3 yet, because of app-compatibility and some more... it's just getting worse, (android 4.4 is reallly ****ed up with wlan-on all the time..rumors..)
My Question to the developers here is exactly does Recovery need to work properly ?? (systemfiles,apk's,scripts)
Why the Samsung-Screen-Bootloop appairs and what script triggers it ?
Tried with ADB-GUI - but it doesn't seem to connect - but testing is needed, didn't try everything yet
this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237530
You know, I don't have nothing to hide, but I want to have my privacy and freedom anyway - I just want to have a clean, secure Phone as possible and I disable and uninstall everything I don't need and will never use all the bloat ****, also I don't want to send ALL my data to google, samsung and all the other companys and CA's.
If I where a developer I would probably bring out a great,clean and secure rom for everyone, however that isn't wanted by google and the big companys and the nwo agenda.
However, it seem's that allmost no one (developers and users) cares about security and privacy at all.
You can only be secure, if you root your phone and modify alot of settings, triggers and remove lot's of apps (apk's) and use several apps to do so. It normally cost's you hours to get everything in place and more hours to figure out all this stuff... but a very advanced good script, could do all the modifications in seconds. Whatever, that **** is to big for me now, I will get over it... will you get over it ? I would like to join this big elite group, if I could, because they have everything (allmost. Also I don't want to sell my soul... what a dillema
Now seriously please - I really need some help by a pro
Hope you can help me.
I think there is a good solution, it lies in downloadmode and flashing the right thing or using adb the right way.
Ok that's it. thanks for reading.
I wish you a good day and all the best.
cya
ps: my signature is over 2 years old.
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Did you just smash your keyboard typing all this? I hope not.. because its quite irritating to see someone oosting such things on a updating guide. You can pm me if u want help. But since u asked here.
Here you go.
Download adonis.pit from my second post
Flash it in odin as pit.
Flash a stock 4.2.2 firmware package
Install whatever recovery you want.
And you are done.
You can go back to recovery.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
Degrated Shadow said:
Did you just smash your keyboard typing all this? I hope not.. because its quite irritating to see someone oosting such things on a updating guide. You can pm me if u want help. But since u asked here.
Here you go.
Download adonis.pit from my second post
Flash it in odin as pit.
Flash a stock 4.2.2 firmware package
Install whatever recovery you want.
And you are done.
You can go back to recovery.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
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that sounds really useful. I will try it now. big thanks! However I have a 9505... is the pit really needed? I have a backup of it, when i flashed the recovery the first time... with heimdall.
ps: I smashed it a little bit... with such things in mind, you can go crazy about... or just ignore your private life and give it to google, samsung & more
I would really like to see the bigdata databases from millions of people profiled in a neat profile... with everything in it. Just use a search tool like everything and find instantly a person with the attributes you seek. Clever Controlfreaks
Ok f*ck that.. lets get a life and just fix the problem
Still the same thing...
I need to clean everything, except my data, like photos and my cwm backup. and to install a clean system.
How can I do this with only download modus avaiable?

Downgrade N9005 from 6.0.1 to 4.3.2

Hello guys,
Here is a long story, interesting to read maybe for some.
I had android 4.3.2 on my Note 3 N9005, for 2 and a half years now. I rooted the phone as soon as it came out. Had many applications which ran smoothly on it, schreenshots/screenrecorders, xposed installer with a lot of mods.. etc.. everything worked fine. Until the last few months, where suddenly "some application" stopped working. I began to have that message, more and more often, and on different applications. I thought, it was time to run a factory reset. BUT I remembered that I ran into some applications on Play Store, which couldn't be installed, since I had an old android version.
So, now, I thought, maybe it was time to try a custom rom. So I installed LiquidSmooth, (android 5.1.1). Nice jump, I must say, many things different, than 4.3.2. Some problems though, the sound was with interference, and some apps just froze. Some games I was playing, just froze.
Then I thought I try another ROM. Found a page with best ROMs, for 5.1.1 and saw that LiquidSmooth only had like 4.8% of the votes, while Nightly had like 40% of the votes and was much more stable (well, according to that site). So I thought I change. BUT, then I saw, that I could actually update to 6.0.1 with Ressurection Remix. So I thought, wow, lemme try that !
So I did. I installed Ressurection Remix, and I must admit, it looks damn good. Even bought the swift dark theme, and it is beautifull. It is candy for the eye. God damn, almost like the 3D cube I played with in Linux a few years back. But some of my games, still freeze. - And as you can guess, I do not like that.. I also got the message on boot: Kernel is not seandroid enforcing.. and I know it's normal, but still I do not like it. (I want everything to be perfect). And with some games, not being able to run, I got tired of RR.
So now, I was thinking, what if I could switch back to 4.3.2? I should have run maybe a factory reset on 4.3.2 instead of trying ROMs, at least my stuff was working. So I thought I get the original stock firmware, and just flash it with ODIN. So, it should be good.
Now I know that on a lot of threads here on the site, people mention that you can't downgrade android. Well, at least not from 6.0.1 to 4.3.2. Because ODIN is not working in 6.0.1 and other stuff.
BUT, I think this: I have a backup, with CWM, for 4.3.2, which I know works, (since I used it a few times).
So, what if I run that backup and get my phone back to 4.3.2.? (again, some ppl here on site, that they accidentally downgraded from 4.4 to 4.3, then they could't upgrade back to 4.4).
So my question is: I use CWM to restore the 4.3.2 backup, THEN in the phone with ODIN I run the original full stock firmware?
Then later, I could unlock bootloader and root my phone again if I want to try something. Would this be possible?
A second question, which I have is: Before I upgraded to lolipop and marshmallow, i ran of course a factory reset, reset cache and dalvik from CWM. But still, now, where I am on 6.0.1 I still saw some folders of some programs I had on 4.3.2. How is that possible? The programs are not in the menu, but the folders are on phones memory. Shouldn't they have been deleted on those 3 resets from CWM? (factory, cache and dalvik?). This is also a reason, for why I would want to return to original stock firmware. Cos I could root my phone right away again, and then upgrade to some rom, so those programs do not come along, and I would have a clean rom. Or with other words, the phones "user" memory, /storage/emulated/sdcard0 - could I just delete it all? I mean the operating system is on root, this directory /storage/emulated/sdcard0 is usually what the user installs on the phone, am I right?
And last question, cos I am greedy for answers. The samsung pen, is of course not working, and I miss it. Any app to install or flash to get the pen alive again?
Thank for your time ro read this Hope u can help ))
Please somebody help. I am also interested.
Wao, boy it was a real long story. And I read it all.
LordTicut said:
Hello guys,
Here is a long story, interesting to read maybe for some.
I had android 4.3.2 on my Note 3 N9005, for 2 and a half years now. I rooted the phone as soon as it came out. Had many applications which ran smoothly on it, schreenshots/screenrecorders, xposed installer with a lot of mods.. etc.. everything worked fine. Until the last few months, where suddenly "some application" stopped working. I began to have that message, more and more often, and on different applications. I thought, it was time to run a factory reset. BUT I remembered that I ran into some applications on Play Store, which couldn't be installed, since I had an old android version.
So, now, I thought, maybe it was time to try a custom rom. So I installed LiquidSmooth, (android 5.1.1). Nice jump, I must say, many things different, than 4.3.2. Some problems though, the sound was with interference, and some apps just froze. Some games I was playing, just froze.
Then I thought I try another ROM. Found a page with best ROMs, for 5.1.1 and saw that LiquidSmooth only had like 4.8% of the votes, while Nightly had like 40% of the votes and was much more stable (well, according to that site). So I thought I change. BUT, then I saw, that I could actually update to 6.0.1 with Ressurection Remix. So I thought, wow, lemme try that !
So I did. I installed Ressurection Remix, and I must admit, it looks damn good. Even bought the swift dark theme, and it is beautifull. It is candy for the eye. God damn, almost like the 3D cube I played with in Linux a few years back. But some of my games, still freeze. - And as you can guess, I do not like that.. I also got the message on boot: Kernel is not seandroid enforcing.. and I know it's normal, but still I do not like it. (I want everything to be perfect). And with some games, not being able to run, I got tired of RR.
So now, I was thinking, what if I could switch back to 4.3.2? I should have run maybe a factory reset on 4.3.2 instead of trying ROMs, at least my stuff was working. So I thought I get the original stock firmware, and just flash it with ODIN. So, it should be good.
Now I know that on a lot of threads here on the site, people mention that you can't downgrade android. Well, at least not from 6.0.1 to 4.3.2. Because ODIN is not working in 6.0.1 and other stuff.
BUT, I think this: I have a backup, with CWM, for 4.3.2, which I know works, (since I used it a few times).
So, what if I run that backup and get my phone back to 4.3.2.? (again, some ppl here on site, that they accidentally downgraded from 4.4 to 4.3, then they could't upgrade back to 4.4).
So my question is: I use CWM to restore the 4.3.2 backup, THEN in the phone with ODIN I run the original full stock firmware?
Then later, I could unlock bootloader and root my phone again if I want to try something. Would this be possible?
A second question, which I have is: Before I upgraded to lolipop and marshmallow, i ran of course a factory reset, reset cache and dalvik from CWM. But still, now, where I am on 6.0.1 I still saw some folders of some programs I had on 4.3.2. How is that possible? The programs are not in the menu, but the folders are on phones memory. Shouldn't they have been deleted on those 3 resets from CWM? (factory, cache and dalvik?). This is also a reason, for why I would want to return to original stock firmware. Cos I could root my phone right away again, and then upgrade to some rom, so those programs do not come along, and I would have a clean rom. Or with other words, the phones "user" memory, /storage/emulated/sdcard0 - could I just delete it all? I mean the operating system is on root, this directory /storage/emulated/sdcard0 is usually what the user installs on the phone, am I right?
And last question, cos I am greedy for answers. The samsung pen, is of course not working, and I miss it. Any app to install or flash to get the pen alive again?
Thank for your time ro read this Hope u can help ))
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Hi friend.
I think you asking: I installed Android MM and It's possible to downgrade 4.3 via Odin tar.md5 flash installation?
I answer: Yes, i think i like you (or you like me). I love use all rom as possible as quickly, but i tired from "system" process not respond and sound quality issue.
I say you ITS POSSIBLE. because i flash via odin anytime (my stock firmware .tar.md5). Even from android mm to 4.3, lollipop > kitkat, v5.1.1 port rom > v5.0.
You can try, first time i'm newbie on XDA, there said something like bootloader. I now said, its necessary (important), just not too for Flashing Stock ROM.
I hope this little helps to you...
Good luck, i'm now Android MM!
Now i searching for backing knox to 0x0.
Via CWM not ODIN
Thanks dalisoft for answering.
My question was actually if I could restore my backup I made with ClockWorkMod a few years ago.
dalisoft said:
Hi friend.
I think you asking: I installed Android MM and It's possible to downgrade 4.3 via Odin tar.md5 flash installation?
I answer: Yes, i think i like you (or you like me). I love use all rom as possible as quickly, but i tired from "system" process not respond and sound quality issue.
I say you ITS POSSIBLE. because i flash via odin anytime (my stock firmware .tar.md5). Even from android mm to 4.3, lollipop > kitkat, v5.1.1 port rom > v5.0.
You can try, first time i'm newbie on XDA, there said something like bootloader. I now said, its necessary (important), just not too for Flashing Stock ROM.
I hope this little helps to you...
Good luck, i'm now Android MM!
Now i searching for backing knox to 0x0.
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LordTicut said:
Thanks dalisoft for answering.
My question was actually if I could restore my backup I made with ClockWorkMod a few years ago.
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Yes, you can restore nandroid backup if you have CWM.
But, remember, before restoring you should to do some steps:
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. Wipe cache
3. Advanced > Wipe dalvik cache
4. Mounts > Format /system
5. Mounts > Format /data
Allright, thanks Dalisoft.
Do you know by the way, if CWM also takes a copy of EFS? I mean EFS is a system directory, so is it included in the nandroidbackup by CWM, right? So if I restore that backup, I will have my EFS exactly as it was, just after I rooted my phone. (not because something is wrong with it, but in case sometyhing is altered, it will be back to normal, right?).
I mean, there are 2 partitions on the phone, the ROM and the recovery. And CWM does an exact image of the ROM partition, so I would assume that the EFS folder is there too. But I am not sure, that's why I am asking.
Guess I am happy and lucky I made a backup with CWM right after root..
CWM also takes a copy of EFS?
Answer = NO .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255
JJEgan said:
CWM also takes a copy of EFS?
Answer = NO .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255
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JJEgan
You are right, I posted this thread in the wrong forum. I am deeply sorry for that. I just wanted quickly an answer. It won't happen again. ( I saw in the meantime it has been moved, so I guess everything is good)
Cheers !

N00b w/ "new SGH-I337 that is running original kernel & 4.2.2 & needs to be updated

N00b w/ "new SGH-I337 that is running original kernel & 4.2.2 & needs to be updated
I am going to apologize from the start. I've read through a lot of threads here and have ended up more confused (and somewhat scared lol). I am a tad more skilled than average when it comes to PCs but I'm a complete mess when it comes to phones!
For various reasons, I like my old ATT Samsung S4 SGH-I337 but am hard on them and need to replace them about every 2 years (I usually wear out the power port among other things). I buy a replacement, copy over my apps, etc, maybe run a minor update and I'm good to go. This time, I bought a "new" open box S4 on Ebay for a great price but when I went to install all my apps, discovered that it was STILL (since it was "brand new") running Android 4.2.2 and the original kernel from the release in 2013! Ok, no big I thought, I will just run the ATT update and I will be good. Nope. Too far out of date and no one at ATT or Samsung is willing to help. I did learn that if I can get 4.4.4 on the phone, then I should be able to update it via ATT to 5.0.1 but I can't even find those files (or at the least any links to them that are still any good!)
Due to life issues, it is critical that I get this phone updated ASAP. Please, can someone spell out step by step in N00b-speak where I can get the needed files and how I update this phone to 5.0.1 or better? I'd really rather not root it if I can avoid it but will do what is needed. I'll buy you a beer (or reasonable beverage of your choice! )
Samsung Galaxy S4 (ATT) SGH_I337
Android 4.2.2
Baseband ver: I337UCUAMDL
Kernel ver: 3.4.0-453947
[email protected]#1
Sat April 27 17:06:05 KST 2013
SilkRoadDog said:
I am going to apologize from the start. I've read through a lot of threads here and have ended up more confused (and somewhat scared lol). I am a tad more skilled than average when it comes to PCs but I'm a complete mess when it comes to phones!
For various reasons, I like my old ATT Samsung S4 SGH-I337 but am hard on them and need to replace them about every 2 years (I usually wear out the power port among other things). I buy a replacement, copy over my apps, etc, maybe run a minor update and I'm good to go. This time, I bought a "new" open box S4 on Ebay for a great price but when I went to install all my apps, discovered that it was STILL (since it was "brand new") running Android 4.2.2 and the original kernel from the release in 2013! Ok, no big I thought, I will just run the ATT update and I will be good. Nope. Too far out of date and no one at ATT or Samsung is willing to help. I did learn that if I can get 4.4.4 on the phone, then I should be able to update it via ATT to 5.0.1 but I can't even find those files (or at the least any links to them that are still any good!)
Due to life issues, it is critical that I get this phone updated ASAP. Please, can someone spell out step by step in N00b-speak where I can get the needed files and how I update this phone to 5.0.1 or better? I'd really rather not root it if I can avoid it but will do what is needed. I'll buy you a beer (or reasonable beverage of your choice! )
Samsung Galaxy S4 (ATT) SGH_I337
Android 4.2.2
Baseband ver: I337UCUAMDL
Kernel ver: 3.4.0-453947
[email protected]#1
Sat April 27 17:06:05 KST 2013
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I too was lucky enough to snag a S4 off ebay with the original kernel still on it. So with that said....do NOT update your phone! You're on the very special Android 4.2.2 jelly bean MDL bootloader! If you update, you will lose the ability to boot AOSP ROMs and install a custom recovery like TWRP.
AOSP ROMs can take you past Android 5.0.x lollipop and give you Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat. You can also boot custom touchwiz ROMs that will take you to Android 5.0.x lollipop. Use the towel root app to root the phone and then freeze any OTA with the titanium backup app. You can also benefit from my guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
StoneyJSG said:
I too was lucky enough to snag a S4 off ebay with the original kernel still on it. So with that said....do NOT update your phone! You're on the very special Android 4.2.2 jelly bean MDL bootloader! If you update, you will lose the ability to boot AOSP ROMs and install a custom recovery like TWRP.
AOSP ROMs can take you past Android 5.0.x lollipop and give you Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat. You can also boot custom touchwiz ROMs that will take you to Android 5.0.x lollipop. Use the towel root app to root the phone and then freeze any OTA with the titanium backup app. You can also benefit from my guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
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Thank you for your reply. So I root it, then where do I go from there? How do I know what ROM is what and which one will give me at the least what I had on the old phone (less bloatware would be nice but right now I am so up a creek that I would be ok with stock)? Also, do you have good links to the tools you recommend? One issue I have been having searching here is that the 3-4-year-old posts here have sketchy or dead links.
SilkRoadDog said:
Thank you for your reply. So I root it, then where do I go from there? How do I know what ROM is what and which one will give me at the least what I had on the old phone (less bloatware would be nice but right now I am so up a creek that I would be ok with stock)? Also, do you have good links to the tools you recommend? One issue I have been having searching here is that the 3-4-year-old posts here have sketchy or dead links.
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No problem, I always try to help when possible. After rooting you can follow my guide to get Loki doki installed. Then you can install a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod. My guide gets you clock work mod recovery installed but it's an old version. I use it though and it works fine for me. If you want TWRP recovery, you will have to search the web on how to install it with loki doki.
After a custom recovery is installed you can choose to boot touchwiz based ROMs or AOSP based ROMs like cyanogen mod. Custom touchwiz ROMs will look just like stock only modified (deodex, debloated, etc.) and AOSP ROMs will look like bone stock Android only with added features.
You can find AOSP ROMs in the original Android development forum here in the s4 forums. You can find touchwiz ROMs in Android development which is right under original Android development forum. Sorry, but I don't have any links to tools handy except for the link to my guide which I posted above in my last post. I use golden eye ROM on my s4 which is a stock based touchwiz ROM on Android 5.0 lollipop.
When booting ROMs, be sure that they do not have a bootloader update or else it'll override everything and will patch the loki doki exploit and lock down everything for good.
StoneyJSG said:
No problem, I always try to help when possible. After rooting you can follow my guide to get Loki doki installed. Then you can install a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod. My guide gets you clock work mod recovery installed but it's an old version. I use it though and it works fine for me. If you want TWRP recovery, you will have to search the web on how to install it with loki doki.
After a custom recovery is installed you can choose to boot touchwiz based ROMs or AOSP based ROMs like cyanogen mod. Custom touchwiz ROMs will look just like stock only modified (deodex, debloated, etc.) and AOSP ROMs will look like bone stock Android only with added features.
You can find AOSP ROMs in the original Android development forum here in the s4 forums. You can find touchwiz ROMs in Android development which is right under original Android development forum. Sorry, but I don't have any links to tools handy except for the link to my guide which I posted above in my last post. I use golden eye ROM on my s4 which is a stock based touchwiz ROM on Android 5.0 lollipop.
When booting ROMs, be sure that they do not have a bootloader update or else it'll override everything and will patch the loki doki exploit and lock down everything for good.
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Thank you so much for the reply. While I am very grateful, with all due respect, I understood only about half of it. Here is the deal. I'm an older guy N00b with chronic pain issues under an extreme amount of stress, and my cognitive abilities are not what they should be. There was a step by step guide posted back in 2015 that is what I need but most of the links are bad or sketchy. Like I said above, I really need something along the lines of "go here and here to get this software and put it in "X" place. Then press these keys and do "Y", then press those keys and do "Z". I'm really sorry to be so difficult but I am trying my best to get it.
SilkRoadDog said:
Thank you so much for the reply. While I am very grateful, with all due respect, I understood only about half of it. Here is the deal. I'm an older guy N00b with chronic pain issues under an extreme amount of stress, and my cognitive abilities are not what they should be. There was a step by step guide posted back in 2015 that is what I need but most of the links are bad or sketchy. Like I said above, I really need something along the lines of "go here and here to get this software and put it in "X" place. Then press these keys and do "Y", then press those keys and do "Z". I'm really sorry to be so difficult but I am trying my best to get it.
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I gotcha, no problem. Okay so what's the status of your phone now? Rooted? Not rooted? To root, goto https://towelroot.com on your phone and click the big red thing in the middle of the page. Make sure you have a Wi-Fi or data connection to the internet, as this will root your phone. Then goto https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...tt-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/amp/ to get loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery. You can also install TWRP recovery instead of clockwork mod recovery, I THINK this is the link: https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...rp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/amp/
Galaxys4root.com is a reputable site ran by Mr. HIGH ON ANDROID himself, Xedomax aka Max Lee. The tools you need should be on his site for download and the links shouldn't be dead. He also has a YouTube channel with videos on how to do different things with your phone. My guide I wrote that I linked before, has step by step instructions on how to root and install a custom recovery and how to boot custom ROMs.
StoneyJSG said:
I gotcha, no problem. Okay so what's the status of your phone now? Rooted? Not rooted? To root, goto https://towelroot.com on your phone and click the big red thing in the middle of the page. Make sure you have a Wi-Fi or data connection to the internet, as this will root your phone. Then goto https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...tt-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/amp/ to get loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery. You can also install TWRP recovery instead of clockwork mod recovery, I THINK this is the link: https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...rp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/amp/
Galaxys4root.com is a reputable site ran by Mr. HIGH ON ANDROID himself, Xedomax aka Max Lee. The tools you need should be on his site for download and the links shouldn't be dead. He also has a YouTube channel with videos on how to do different things with your phone. My guide I wrote that I linked before, has step by step instructions on how to root and install a custom recovery and how to boot custom ROMs.
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Ok, It's not rooted yet so I will start down the path laid out. What do you recommend as a source for Touchwiz (wth is that anyway? lol) ROMs? I don't know enough about Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat to make the call there but I do want to be able to access the Google apps and play store as before.
SilkRoadDog said:
Ok, It's not rooted yet so I will start down the path laid out. What do you recommend as a source for Touchwiz (wth is that anyway? lol) ROMs? I don't know enough about Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat to make the call there but I do want to be able to access the Google apps and play store as before.
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Your instructions say " Next, you're going to want to freeze the OTA update so the phone won't update off the MDL bootloader (after installing SuperSU of course). You can do this via the Titanium Backup app or the MyBackup Root app (now called just MyBackup I think).
Let's recap...you will need a copy of the towel root app, then SuperSU, then TB or MyBackup Root app. SuperSU will kill the evil KNOX for you." Do I do that before "loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery."? If so, where is a good source for them? If not, when do I do I install them?
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StoneyJSG said:
I gotcha, no problem. Okay so what's the status of your phone now? Rooted? Not rooted? To root, goto https://towelroot.com on your phone and click the big red thing in the middle of the page. Make sure you have a Wi-Fi or data connection to the internet, as this will root your phone. Then goto https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...tt-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/amp/ to get loki doki installed and clockwork mod recovery. You can also install TWRP recovery instead of clockwork mod recovery, I THINK this is the link: https://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-...rp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/amp/
Galaxys4root.com is a reputable site ran by Mr. HIGH ON ANDROID himself, Xedomax aka Max Lee. The tools you need should be on his site for download and the links shouldn't be dead. He also has a YouTube channel with videos on how to do different things with your phone. My guide I wrote that I linked before, has step by step instructions on how to root and install a custom recovery and how to boot custom ROMs.
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Ok, forget anything I typed here in the last hour lol. Somehow there were two locals and I was in the wrong one. So far so good. So back to the other question above. " " Next, you're going to want to freeze the OTA update so the phone won't update off the MDL bootloader (after installing SuperSU of course). You can do this via the Titanium Backup app or the MyBackup Root app (now called just MyBackup I think).
Let's recap...you will need a copy of the towel root app, then SuperSU, then TB or MyBackup Root app. SuperSU will kill the evil KNOX for you."" I still need to do that, right? if so, where do I find those apps?
Thank you so much.
SilkRoadDog said:
Ok, It's not rooted yet so I will start down the path laid out. What do you recommend as a source for Touchwiz (wth is that anyway? lol) ROMs? I don't know enough about Android 6.0.x marshmallow or 7.0.x nougat to make the call there but I do want to be able to access the Google apps and play store as before.
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Touchwiz is the "skin" user interface that Samsung puts on top of Android. It is the stock SAMSUNG rom. Just Google touchwiz then Google stock Android, you'll see a difference. I like touchwiz so I am running a custom ROM called "Golden eye". You can download it from the Android development forum here in the S4 section. Other people like stock Android. The magic of being on the MDL bootloader is that you can boot touchwiz and bone stock Android ROMs. Most custom ROMs both stock Android and touchwiz based will let you access Google apps and the play store.
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SilkRoadDog said:
Ok, forget anything I typed here in the last hour lol. Somehow there were two locals and I was in the wrong one. So far so good. So back to the other question above. " " Next, you're going to want to freeze the OTA update so the phone won't update off the MDL bootloader (after installing SuperSU of course). You can do this via the Titanium Backup app or the MyBackup Root app (now called just MyBackup I think).
Let's recap...you will need a copy of the towel root app, then SuperSU, then TB or MyBackup Root app. SuperSU will kill the evil KNOX for you."" I still need to do that, right? if so, where do I find those apps?
Thank you so much.
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You can get all those app except towel root on the play store. Once installed you can use ES file explorer to back them up to apk files then use the my files app that's on ya phone to move them to your SD card for use with your new ROM or keep them where they are since my guide tells you how to keep your data in tact...well for touch wiz ROMs anyway.
StoneyJSG said:
Touchwiz is the "skin" user interface that Samsung puts on top of Android. It is the stock SAMSUNG rom. Just Google touchwiz then Google stock Android, you'll see a difference. I like touchwiz so I am running a custom ROM called "Golden eye". You can download it from the Android development forum here in the S4 section. Other people like stock Android. The magic of being on the MDL bootloader is that you can boot touchwiz and bone stock Android ROMs. Most custom ROMs both stock Android and touchwiz based will let you access Google apps and the play store.
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You can get all those app except towel root on the play store. Once installed you can use ES file explorer to back them up to apk files then use the my files app that's on ya phone to move them to your SD card for use with your new ROM or keep them where they are since my guide tells you how to keep your data in tact...well for touch wiz ROMs anyway.
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Since this is a "new" phone and I have nothing to back up yet, do I need to run a backup or can I follow your guide from that point, clean things up and install the ROM of choice?
SilkRoadDog said:
Since this is a "new" phone and I have nothing to back up yet, do I need to run a backup or can I follow your guide from that point, clean things up and install the ROM of choice?
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It's always good to make a backup in case anything goes wrong with your phone down the road you can get back to where you started without having to flash the MDL stock Rom in ODIN by connecting your phone to your computer. You should though keep a copy of ODIN and the MDL bootloader .tar ODIN file. However, it's entirely optional to make a back up so you could just follow the guide from that point and clean up for a ROM install if you don't want to make a backup.
You can also boot a ROM and then make a backup after you have everything set up. You can back up the stock Rom or any ROM you boot/install. That's the magic of having a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod.
StoneyJSG said:
It's always good to make a backup in case anything goes wrong with your phone down the road you can get back to where you started without having to flash the MDL stock Rom in ODIN by connecting your phone to your computer. You should though keep a copy of ODIN and the MDL bootloader .tar ODIN file. However, it's entirely optional to make a back up so you could just follow the guide from that point and clean up for a ROM install if you don't want to make a backup.
You can also boot a ROM and then make a backup after you have everything set up. You can back up the stock Rom or any ROM you boot/install. That's the magic of having a custom recovery like TWRP or clock work mod.
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Unfortunately, since I already started the install before seeing this, I have no idea what I backed up or where it is. :crying:
First off, I want to thank you so much for the help. I owe you and would like to buy you a beer or the like. I have my phone back now! There were issues with the Golden Eye install (it froze at the Samsung logo for over an hour) and I had to wipe everything and start over then I was able to get it up and running. Is this the right one? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Quick question: Do you know if that ROM supports an external SD card larger than 32gig?
I am having some issues and so far am not thrilled with this ROM and am wondering if it's the right one or if I screwed up. It hasn't been worked on since 2015 and the dev is hasn't been responsive in years. On my phone, it's really buggy. It boots slow, apps hang when loading, a few don't work right, the screen can flash or freeze and TouchWiz keeps crashing like it was doing at the end on my old phone's life. Any ideas as to why?
SilkRoadDog said:
Unfortunately, since I already started the install before seeing this, I have no idea what I backed up or where it is. :crying:
First off, I want to thank you so much for the help. I owe you and would like to buy you a beer or the like. I have my phone back now! There were issues with the Golden Eye install (it froze at the Samsung logo for over an hour) and I had to wipe everything and start over then I was able to get it up and running. Is this the right one? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Quick question: Do you know if that ROM supports an external SD card larger than 32gig?
I am having some issues and so far am not thrilled with this ROM and am wondering if it's the right one or if I screwed up. It hasn't been worked on since 2015 and the dev is hasn't been responsive in years. On my phone, it's really buggy. It boots slow, apps hang when loading, a few don't work right, the screen can flash or freeze and TouchWiz keeps crashing like it was doing at the end on my old phone's life. Any ideas as to why?
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If you made a nandroid backup with TWRP recovery or clockwork mod recovery, then the backup file will be on your phone SD card or internal memory. Use the my files app to find it. It should be under a folder called TWRP or clockwork mod.
Hey no problem man, I know how it is to goto a forum and have 87,000 people view your post yet nothing is said. Yes that link is the correct link to golden eye ROM. When booting a ROM for the first time it will get stuck at the Samsung logo for awhile, this is normal but it shouldn't be more than 20 minutes. I think the S4 can handle SD cards up to 128GB, it might only be 64GB though.
Very odd golden eye ROM is giving you issues, I have only had one problem with it and that was the text message app acting up every so often. When you booted golden eye did you use the Aroma installer so it just asks you questions and you pick what you want? If not wipe and start over using aroma, it's built into the ROM. Also be sure to tell Aroma you want to use the "imperium kernel". That's the kernel I am using. Golden eye ROM doesn't have a bootloader update in it, so you'll stay on MDL and not have to worry about your phone patching the loki exploit.
I think you can also use the hybrid max kernel, but I don't think it's in the Aroma installer so if you want it you will have to download it from the forums here and flash it separately.
Another thing you can try is just "nuking your phone" as explained in my guide that wipes everything and gives you a nice clean install. The only reason I included the "keep your data" method in my guide is because I just stumbled upon it by doing it on my phone.
If all else fails and as a last ditch effort, you could send the phone to me and I will see if I can get it up and running with golden eye ROM, then send it back. No guarantees though as I'm no developer or anything, just a guy that knows the basics of Android ROMs and root.
Final report. It turns out the problems I've been having were related to the SU Super App. There have been complaints about the recent version. I thought that it was a corrupt install of Golden Eye so got a clean DL from another mirror and was getting ready to start all over. This time I was going to follow the dev's install instructions step by step instead of yours and his. However, I couldn't install TWRP as he instructed. It hung at 100% and never completed. I thought that maybe Super SU was the issue there so I uninstalled it and all of my other problems went away! So happy. Thank you for everything. I do owe you a drink!
SilkRoadDog said:
Final report. It turns out the problems I've been having were related to the SU Super App. There have been complaints about the recent version. I thought that it was a corrupt install of Golden Eye so got a clean DL from another mirror and was getting ready to start all over. This time I was going to follow the dev's install instructions step by step instead of yours and his. However, I couldn't install TWRP as he instructed. It hung at 100% and never completed. I thought that maybe Super SU was the issue there so I uninstalled it and all of my other problems went away! So happy. Thank you for everything. I do owe you a drink!
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Hey glad it finally worked out for you. You will need superSU though, try a different version of it and that might fix the issue you're having with the latest version. That is unless you have the kingroot super user app, then you can use that but it's not as good as superSU. I had problems with it authorizing my root apps so I got rid of it and installed superSU. No problem glad to help and no thanks needed but if you really wanna buy me a beer go for it lol.

Simple way?

Hi everyone,
So couple of year ago I worked at a start-up company that had an Android project. So I'm not new to flashing images (ROM, Recovery, radio...), and I know most basic tools like ADB (and I'm technical person in my daily life). That being said - I remember the pain when the Radio image doesn't fit the firmware, and you have to play around with stuff to make reception work again. or the Recovery image won't fit the ROM etc etc. I'm not sure if any of this probably still happen TODAY, but back then when I got my LG-G2 - I decided not to touch it. I don't need anything besides the basic options (making calls, taking pictures).
I'm still using Stock with 4.4.2 - and the phone is getting lagy each passing day to the point it's time to root it and install a custom rom.
As I mentioned above, I want it to be quick and painless. Sadly, I don't have the time to do insane amount of research right now, mainly because I have a 3 weeks old born at home - and I prefer to use my free time hanging with it that Q&N issues with my phone
So here's what I need your help with:
1. A recommendation for a tool to save all phone settings. Mostly - App settings, and OS settings (even though I probably not going to go for Stock again, but it doesn't hurt to back it up).
2. An instruction how to flash D802 (there' so many options this days...). My Kernel version is 3.4.0.
3. Recommended ROM to use. Here's what I need from a ROM.
a. I probably want to upgrade to more safe rooted Android version (I can't for example handle permissions on 4.4.2).
b. With that, I don't want to install the latest Android only to figure it's running slowly on LG G2, I want the interface to be snappy (the Stock was snappy for a while).
c. I prefer Minimal ROM if possible with Google Apps installed. If I'll need something, I can install it myself.
d. One of the reason I didn't root up until now, was because people mentioned camera quality is meh with non stock roms. If possible, I will like to have a decent Camera quality.
e. I use my phone as a music player often. So good sound quality is important to me (and maybe even build in Parametrized EQ?).
Thank you!
Reading around the forum would have taken just about the same amount of time than writing your post. A post, mind you, that will get you the same as what you can already find with ease.
You managed to write with your kid around. Last time I checked, browsing takes less effort.
Rant out.
Instead of a rant, here's an actual help for people who might find it useful in the future and lack the time to do some proper research (as it took more than the 5 minutes it took me to write the original post). Please note that I won't take any responsibility for possible damages you may do to your system. Please use at your own risk. Also, note that I only tried it on LG G2 802 with Stock Kit Kat (4.2.2) and other version/OS version might not work.
I wasn't clear to me if 'One Click Root' work with Kit Kat bootloader, so I used 'ioroot'. When your done rooting your phone, you will need to flash a TWRP recovery. The easiest way to do it is by using AutoRec. However, the TWRP recovery installed with AutoRec doesn't have Thermal protection, and is dangerous to use according to the forums. So the next thing will be flashing a new TWRP version from the recovery. Blastgater have tweaked TWRP Recovery for LG devices. You can download the latest version here. It's basically a zip file you flash from within your old TWRP.
Regarding ROM, after doing some research - it looks like Lineage will be the best 'all-around' rom to use. Liveage 15/16 were too slow for my liking, so I went with 14.1 (Android 7.1) which was enough for me and snappy to use. However, the tricky part if your plan on using Lineage, is to flash a bootstack as the one coming with Stock won't work. It's just another zip to flash directly from the recovery and can be found here.
So this is just the high-level process, and I highly suggest checking the specific on the links I sent. It also helps if you know how to handle 'adb' and know the basic stuff like what bootloader and recovery are
Good luck.

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