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Nexus 7 Survival Tips?

So basically I installed cm10 on my Nexus 7 and I am very dissapointed from the Rom's Performance.. I would rather go back to Stock. However I have a few questions.
- How can I attain similar functionality to the On Demand CPU governor?
- Will CWM work fine using a rooted stock ROM?
- How do I apply the OTA updates on a Rooted device with CWM installed? Last time I tried, I went to the CWM boot screen and the update didn't happen.
- Will I lose flash/stock browser functionality after applying the Update and will I have to repeat the same process each time?
Thanks!

binarydrummer said:
So basically I installed cm10 on my Nexus 7 and I am very dissapointed from the Rom's Performance.. I would rather go back to Stock. However I have a few questions.
- How can I attain similar functionality to the On Demand CPU governor?
- Will CWM work fine using a rooted stock ROM?
- How do I apply the OTA updates on a Rooted device with CWM installed? Last time I tried, I went to the CWM boot screen and the update didn't happen.
- Will I lose flash/stock browser functionality after applying the Update and will I have to repeat the same process each time?
Thanks!
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Before you go back to stock, I recommend trying Paranoid Android. It's very smooth on my Nexus 7 and the performance is great. Plus Paranoid gives you the option of hybrid, tablet, or phone mode for every app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800268
I haven't used the On Demand CPU governor, but I know kernels like Franco or Motley come with clockspeed and volt controls for your device.
CWM worked fine for me on stock ROM while rooted.
Use RootKeeper to apply OTA updates while rooted. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7

Yeah, i'm stock rom fans too, performance are always better in stock. Flash back Stock and install the mothley kernel, this will allow you to overclock up to 1600Mhz. And to manage cpu frequency and all that stuff, get SetCPU on the market
Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 avec Tapatalk

jamesst20 said:
Yeah, i'm stock rom fans too, performance are always better in stock. Flash back Stock and install the mothley kernel, this will allow you to overclock up to 1600Mhz. And to manage cpu frequency and all that stuff, get SetCPU on the market
Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 avec Tapatalk
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So how do I get back? Can I just use the nexus toolkit? I dont have the stock image anymore

I'd just suggest getting setcpu from the market. If the toolkit doesn't have the stock ROM, I'm sure some thread around here will

you can go back to stop with the root tool kit
CWM and google updates.. YOU will not be able to install the official updates thru cwm.. You could flash back to stock recovery do the update and then flash cwm back. i do this on my Huawei cell phone..
But with this being a nexus device.. Soon after google sends a update . Someone will port it to be install-able thru cwm .You may have to wait a few days or week..
This is the best bet... just wait and install the cwm version of the update.
Being a unlocked nexus device gives you options not found on most other devices with much less Dev. support.. I have been very lucky with both my tablets .. The Acer a500 is still rocking with DEV.. With its new non acer dual boot boot loader to all the roms. Even a cm 10 beta..
Its kinda a given with this device to have such support . but did not expect it with the acer...

[Q] Would rooting/installing custom rom improve Nexus7?

I recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone and noticed huge improvements. Noticed my nexus was lagging on things that I would think shouldn't be that taxing on the device. Thought the OTA update to 4.2 would help but it didn't. Would rooting it get rid of that lag or is it just a nexus thing?

sourshin said:
I recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone and noticed huge improvements. Noticed my nexus was lagging on things that I would think shouldn't be that taxing on the device. Thought the OTA update to 4.2 would help but it didn't. Would rooting it get rid of that lag or is it just a nexus thing?
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Personally because of the big change over from 4.1 to 4.2 i decided to go back to stock for awhile and wait for the bugs to be sorted.
Re-unlocked and rooted, flashed faux kernel and is the best experience i have had to date. Meaning the least lag. Stock and custom kernel. Just unlock - root and then flash kernel. :good:
Not a detailed description but if you need further advice just say so......Just means unlocking installing CWM and SU...Then flash kernel of choice. recommend faux..

I've tried out a rooted nexus 7 and to be honest didn't see a huge improvement so I've decided to wait until Key Lime Pie comes out and see if they sort out the bugs otherwise I will root.

Kind of discouraging

root doesnt automagically improve the devices performance, its what YOU do with root access. oh, and what lag? not the tiniest bit of lag on my device. custom rom/kernel, and some optimizations. couldnt be happier. btw, mostly whatl root does is let you use root apps. you dont need root to flash custom roms/kernels. but you do need an unlocked bootloader. with root, you can control that rom/kernel, get to the devices main file system, change whatever you want, and otherwise be in complete control of your device.

I get my nexus 7 today, after a hour I rooted it, just for ad block plus and the ability to customize the navbar. Love root.

Blixz said:
I've tried out a rooted nexus 7 and to be honest didn't see a huge improvement so I've decided to wait until Key Lime Pie comes out and see if they sort out the bugs otherwise I will root.
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There will most likely be more updates to 4.2 before Android 5.0 comes out.

I personally think it does make it better. It all really matters how you use your tablet and what you put in it like the Kernel you install. Roms it really doesn't matter really what you get but I have always been a big fan for CM since first getting the G1, nexus one, the HTC G2/Desire z and it has always been the fastest rom for me.
Sent on my rocken Nexus 7

simms22 said:
root doesnt automagically improve the devices performance, its what YOU do with root access. oh, and what lag? not the tiniest bit of lag on my device. custom rom/kernel, and some optimizations. couldnt be happier. btw, mostly whatl root does is let you use root apps. you dont need root to flash custom roms/kernels. but you do need an unlocked bootloader. with root, you can control that rom/kernel, get to the devices main file system, change whatever you want, and otherwise be in complete control of your device.
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I had thought you needed SU access in order to flash a custom rom. Or is that just to use CWM which needs SU? Anyways if you unlock you must as well root it.....yes....!

Yeah as a few people have already said root alone will do mouthing for performance faux kernel, as far as I'm concerned, is a great addition to this great tablet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I actually get a lot of performance lag. Might be from alot of email sync but still it shouldn't have a half second delay after lock screen and moving between screens etc.
And I thought I would need to root to get my bootloader unlocked? I'm sure it's easier for the nexus than my HTC One X. Which was kind of a pain.

Yes using different roms and or kernels will make a massive difference to performance and or battery life but thats determined by which kernels and roms you use some are built for speed others for battery. If you had searched the forum you would have found this :silly:

Root will break some apps.
Just wanted to mention that unlocking your bootloader and rooting will break a few apps for the Nexus 7. I was all gung-ho to root my Nexus the first week I had it. Then I discovered I could no longer stream cable tv to it with Time Warner Cables app. Google Wallet also wouldn't let me link any cards to it's app while rooted or with an unlocked bootloader. A quick skim of the forum shows that rooting breaks streaming functionality on other subscription video apps as well. Depending on how you use your tablet, this might not matter to you. I ended up going back to stock for now, just because I wanted to use these apps. There is probably workaround, but I just didn't want the extra work....around. I think the Nexus 7 ultimate toolkit might let you gain temp root, I don't remember for sure tho.

Rooting will not effect performance at all. Your just gaining access to the root directory. It's what you do after that effects performance. Also just rooting does not effect the wallet app at all, this is wrong information. Wallet does a root check for security purposes and will show "unsupported device" within the app after rooting. Ignore that, it is just a root notification. Cards add correctly and it functions correctly. I can't speak on the other apps mentioned, but ill take a stab in the dark and start at user error
Custom roms will definitely increase performance. Stock 4.2.1 is a bit laggy, I recommend flashing liquidsmooth and see the difference!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

I stream movies using Flixster with my rooted N7. It's simple if you are rooted with Supersu. I go to settings in the Supersu app and uncheck Enable Superuser. After I finish streaming, I go back and enable it again.
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Most stable custom ROM with kernel?

Hi all. I am a proud owner of a 32gb wifi Nexus 7. While not new to Android, this is my 1st tablet. Love the size, weight and most of all...is android!
My question is, what combination of ROM with kernel would be best? I know there are a lot of things to consider, but I am looking for opinions only. Without talking down certain ROMs and/or kernels, we can share here opinions based on stability, customization and smoothness! I already encounter an issue when I rooted my 2 days brand new N7 rooting it with the Tool kit. Rooted it fast and easy (successfully), but installed TWRP. Me knowing no better, I love and I'm used to CWM, so I installed ROM Manager and CWM. Long story short, when I went to flash one ROM in particular, in recovery, when I formated system, data reset, wiped cache & dalvik, it wiped my sdcard clean. I mean, thats how I flash my Note 2 for a clean install and never had an issue like that. Then, when I tried to get into recovery via fastboot, I couldn't. It was like CWM wasn't there.
Thanks to the Tool Kit, I was able to un root and go back to stock....then rooted again (with TWRP) and finally flashed CM-10 stable. Also flashed faux's 4.1.2 kernel @ 1600. I like what I have so far, but I would like something more. I got the stable CM-10 from the actual CM thread so the ROM is pretty much untouched.
Can anybody please share what ROM and kernel I should try for a bit of stability, power and smothness at the same time? Any inputs and/or advice, will be greatly appreciated!

Try Paranoidandroid as a ROM. And i think the kernel that comes with it is the smoothest i have used with it.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Wally72 said:
Hi all. I am a proud owner of a 32gb wifi Nexus 7. While not new to Android, this is my 1st tablet. Love the size, weight and most of all...is android!
My question is, what combination of ROM with kernel would be best? I know there are a lot of things to consider, but I am looking for opinions only. Without talking down certain ROMs and/or kernels, we can share here opinions based on stability, customization and smoothness! I already encounter an issue when I rooted my 2 days brand new N7 rooting it with the Tool kit. Rooted it fast and easy (successfully), but installed TWRP. Me knowing no better, I love and I'm used to CWM, so I installed ROM Manager and CWM. Long story short, when I went to flash one ROM in particular, in recovery, when I formated system, data reset, wiped cache & dalvik, it wiped my sdcard clean. I mean, thats how I flash my Note 2 for a clean install and never had an issue like that. Then, when I tried to get into recovery via fastboot, I couldn't. It was like CWM wasn't there.
Thanks to the Tool Kit, I was able to un root and go back to stock....then rooted again (with TWRP) and finally flashed CM-10 stable. Also flashed faux's 4.1.2 kernel @ 1600. I like what I have so far, but I would like something more. I got the stable CM-10 from the actual CM thread so the ROM is pretty much untouched.
Can anybody please share what ROM and kernel I should try for a bit of stability, power and smothness at the same time? Any inputs and/or advice, will be greatly appreciated!
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Hi, Wally72...
I don't know if this question can be answered objectively... it all hinges on how you intend to use the device, day to day. If your going to be playing high-octane video games, then a kernel that supports overclocking would be advised... but that will come at a battery life cost. More CPU cycles = battery drain.
For myself, I am currently running PaulOBriens MoDaCo custom ROM (can't post links yet, but Google MoDaCo Nexus7, and you should find it)...
The standard MoDaCo ROM for the N7 doesn't go too far off stock... it just adds some really nice features... AOSP browser (better than Chrome IMHO), expanded powerdown menu, Adobe Flash Player in /system (although Adobe no longer support it, it's still useful to have).
Paul has recently ventured into CyanogenMod territory with CM10.1 unofficial nightlies... which he has stated will be released every Friday.
And this is what I'm running now - MoDaCo CyanogenMod Custom ROM r3 - and in conjunction with Franco's r39 kernel, it's incredibly smooth... and very respectible battery performance as well.
Hope this is of some use...
Rgrds,
Ged.

stock
stock is stable

vital982 said:
stock is stable
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stock if u want a tabui try smoothrom with franco kernel

[Q] Help a complete noob flash Nex 7 please ;)

HI All,
Long time lurker
I get a bit overwhelmed with rooting / flashing and such but yesterday i received my RMA Nexus 4 and decided to give it a crack as it was a fresh start.
Used CF-Root on my Nexus 4, then i flashed Paranoid Android (v3) using Rom Manager (both excellent bits of software and really easy to use) i was so impressed with Paranoid Android (love the tablet mode) so decided to give it a go on my Nexus 7
Used CF-Root again and unlocked boot loader and rooted ok, installed Rom Manger and booted to recovery but it gave me errors when i attempted to load Paranoid Android so i exited and now back just stock software.
I used the same ROM for Paranoid Android that i used for the Nexus 4, i wasn't able to fine a specific build for the Nexus 7 so assumed that they use the same ROM? i now think i was wrong but cant find a specific ROM for my Nexus 7
Would someone be kind enough to tell me if i do need a different build for the Nexus 7 and also if i need a different GAAPS download?
Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been posted before, so much conflicting information and out of date links around the web, i just wanted to be sure.
Cheers
Steve

nexussteve said:
HI All,
Long time lurker
I get a bit overwhelmed with rooting / flashing and such but yesterday i received my RMA Nexus 4 and decided to give it a crack as it was a fresh start.
Used CF-Root on my Nexus 4, then i flashed Paranoid Android (v3) using Rom Manager (both excellent bits of software and really easy to use) i was so impressed with Paranoid Android (love the tablet mode) so decided to give it a go on my Nexus 7
Used CF-Root again and unlocked boot loader and rooted ok, installed Rom Manger and booted to recovery but it gave me errors when i attempted to load Paranoid Android so i exited and now back just stock software.
I used the same ROM for Paranoid Android that i used for the Nexus 4, i wasn't able to fine a specific build for the Nexus 7 so assumed that they use the same ROM? i now think i was wrong but cant find a specific ROM for my Nexus 7
Would someone be kind enough to tell me if i do need a different build for the Nexus 7 and also if i need a different GAAPS download?
Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been posted before, so much conflicting information and out of date links around the web, i just wanted to be sure.
Cheers
Steve
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All I did when I got my Nexus 7 was downloaded the Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
Use that and run the "All-in-One" unlock,recovery,root,busybox etc.
Note: Technically all you really needed was a custom recovery to stick and you can flash a custom rom, but I like to run the All-In-One just in case.
As for the rom, you should not flash another device's rom. Only use the one designated for your specific device. Flashing another device's will likely brick/bootloop your current device.
To make things easier, think of it like this:
Custom Roms likely already have root privileges, so flashing them automatically gives u root access. In order to flash a custom rom, you simply need a recovery like CWM or TWRP. You can achieve that however you like, but the Toolkit is easiest in my opinion.
When you flash a rom, read the requirements on the thread. It should be as easy as wiping Cache/Dalvik/Data, Flash Rom, Flash GAPPS, Flash Kernel if you want to, Flash Multi DPI Play Store if you change dpi of your apps, then reboot.

Paranoid android thread of nexus 7 is HERE, ROM is available for both grouper and tilapia.

+1 on aria807. Nexus toolkit is great for beginners and is very error proof. I've since moved onto fastboot and abd command line, but I still use the tool kit to restore to stock because its fast and easy. Damn program even downloads the images for you.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

For a second I thought you're on crack trying to flash a Sony NEX 7...
Beamed from my Grouper

Re-purpose Nexus 7 as a Dedicated Comic Reader

Hi there. So I've got a Nexus 7 (2012 WiFi) that I've had since launch. It's obviously quite old now and thus it's incredibly slow. I had issues updating it to the latest version of Android that was made available by Google for it to the point that I had to sideload the update using adb. Basically, the reason I even bought it in the first place was to use it as a dedicated digital comic reader. So that's kinda what I want to use it for going forward. But in its current state, it's just so slow and sketchy, I'm hoping to flash a new ROM or some kind of custom stripped-down version of Android with just the basics to extend the life of the device. The size is great and the screen still looks great, but many stock features are no longer necessary for my purposes. If anyone has any suggestions on a good way to strip down features to improve performance, or advice on a good ROM that's been known to greatly improve the performance of this dated device, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Projektor said:
Hi there. So I've got a Nexus 7 (2012 WiFi) that I've had since launch. It's obviously quite old now and thus it's incredibly slow. I had issues updating it to the latest version of Android that was made available by Google for it to the point that I had to sideload the update using adb. Basically, the reason I even bought it in the first place was to use it as a dedicated digital comic reader. So that's kinda what I want to use it for going forward. But in its current state, it's just so slow and sketchy, I'm hoping to flash a new ROM or some kind of custom stripped-down version of Android with just the basics to extend the life of the device. The size is great and the screen still looks great, but many stock features are no longer necessary for my purposes. If anyone has any suggestions on a good way to strip down features to improve performance, or advice on a good ROM that's been known to greatly improve the performance of this dated device, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.

wtherrell said:
Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
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Edit: Thanks for the response, I'll look into these.

wtherrell said:
Pure Nexus +Parrot mod.
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It's been a while since I've touched this stuff, but I recall that my Nexus 7 is rooted already. That being said, I'm not sure I remember how to Flash ROMs etc.
Could I trouble you for some help with instructions on how to achieve this?
Thanks again...

Projektor said:
It's been a while since I've touched this stuff, but I recall that my Nexus 7 is rooted already. That being said, I'm not sure I remember how to Flash ROMs etc.
Could I trouble you for some help with instructions on how to achieve this?
Thanks again...
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I know I risk the wrath of the purists here but Wugs Nexus root toolkit or the Skipsoft one are handy. If you want to truly get down to the nuts and bolts you can do as the purists suggest and use the ADB /Fastboot command interface in the Android software development kit.
You will use one of those to install a custom recovery such as TWRP. You will then download the rom (and gapps) if not already included. You may also need SuperSU to handle root management. You flash roms, gapps, etc. through TWRP.

Thanks for the response. I'm just about finished my Root + TWRP with Wug's kit.
Coming from the stock nakasi-lmy47v-factory (5.1.1)
So I think at this point, I've:
-unlocked the bootloader
-installed TWRP 3.1.0-0-grouper.img
-Rooted using SuperSU v2.79-SR3
Just based on what I've done, and my intention to flash a custom version of Pure Nexus, my rooting may have been redundant for now and will need to be done again?
I guess the next thing I need to determine is if I need to flash a new Kernel. I'm currently using 3.1.10-gf5d7b8b stock Kernel.
Oh, and decide if I should switch to F2SF.

I've successfully got Pure Nexus running with Parrot Mod installed, and it's running beautifully! I opted not to bother switching to F2FS, but may take a look in the future. Thank you so much wtherrell for all your help!