Hwy guys I have a verizon note 4 and it is not root able at all. I have been wanting to stick with this great device but I miss root. I miss the freedom and capabilities it unlocked. I have been wondering which variant of the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is permanently rootable ? Is it a different US carriers variant? Or an international one that has this ability? I appreciate the help guys, thanks in advance.
I have the SM-N910F (trltexx) aka. Qualcomm International version and I can do what I want with my device. Why do you Americans have seperate versions of a phone for every carrier and what are the differences? In the rest of the world, the carriers use a SIM-Lock. Since 2-3 months even SIM-Locks are forbidden in the EU.
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I recently became the proud new owner of a SM-900A NC2 note 3. I had a galaxy mega that broke, and my insurance plan replaced it with the note 3. I was actually excited at first. I had been somewhat regretting my choice and wishing I had gone with the note 3 to begin with. But then I discovered that there is no root option for the NC2 update. Nothing. The same was true of my galaxy mega for a long time (SGH-I527). With both of these devices, I noticed that some models were easily rooted/modded, and others (mine) took ages to get a functioning root.
My plan is to be an early adopter of the Note 4 when it's released in September. I don't want to be caught in the same situation where I own one of the models that is very difficult to hack. I want to buy the most open model that can be used on the AT&T network with LTE (Samsung seems keen to release developer editions for verizon, but not with LTE).
Right now, the most open model of the Note 3 seems to be N9005. I'm not going to outright buy a new note 3 that I plan on replacing in 3 months. But when that time comes, are there some rules of thumb that I should know about to choose the most open model? From my limited experience, I've learned that buying through AT&T is a recipe for slavery. But, there are many non-AT&T options.
So, what's the best choice? an International model? A different LTE carrier's model unlocked? Or, is it too early to tell?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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I recently became the proud new owner of a SM-900A NC2 note 3. I had a galaxy mega that broke, and my insurance plan replaced it with the note 3. I was actually excited at first. I had been somewhat regretting my choice and wishing I had gone with the note 3 to begin with. But then I discovered that there is no root option for the NC2 update. Nothing. The same was true of my galaxy mega for a long time (SGH-I527). With both of these devices, I noticed that some models were easily rooted/modded, and others (mine) took ages to get a functioning root.
My plan is to be an early adopter of the Note 4 when it's released in September. I don't want to be caught in the same situation where I own one of the models that is very difficult to hack. I want to buy the most open model that can be used on the AT&T network with LTE (Samsung seems keen to release developer editions for verizon, but not with LTE).
Right now, the most open model of the Note 3 seems to be N9005. I'm not going to outright buy a new note 3 that I plan on replacing in 3 months. But when that time comes, are there some rules of thumb that I should know about to choose the most open model? From my limited experience, I've learned that buying through AT&T is a recipe for slavery. But, there are many non-AT&T options.
So, what's the best choice? an International model? A different LTE carrier's model unlocked? Or, is it too early to tell?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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snapdragon international unlock version.
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antique_sonic said:
snapdragon international unlock version.
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Thanks, but I don't plan on re-purchasing the note 3. Do you think the same will be true of the Note 4? Assuming there's no LTE developer edition, will the international version provide the best chance at freedom? Is it too early to speculate?
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Thanks, but I don't plan on re-purchasing the note 3. Do you think the same will be true of the Note 4? Assuming there's no LTE developer edition, will the international version provide the best chance at freedom? Is it too early to speculate?
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As long as you get the qualcomm version you'll be fine i guess
Isnt it just that the n9005 is more common.
So theres more people playing around with it and ending up with solutions?
And yeah Samsung's attitude against customizing are terrible.
The Note3 will be my last Samsung electronic(s) b.t.w.
snapdragon n9005
MrGneissGuy said:
I recently became the proud new owner of a SM-900A NC2 note 3. I had a galaxy mega that broke, and my insurance plan replaced it with the note 3. I was actually excited at first. I had been somewhat regretting my choice and wishing I had gone with the note 3 to begin with. But then I discovered that there is no root option for the NC2 update. Nothing. The same was true of my galaxy mega for a long time (SGH-I527). With both of these devices, I noticed that some models were easily rooted/modded, and others (mine) took ages to get a functioning root.
My plan is to be an early adopter of the Note 4 when it's released in September. I don't want to be caught in the same situation where I own one of the models that is very difficult to hack. I want to buy the most open model that can be used on the AT&T network with LTE (Samsung seems keen to release developer editions for verizon, but not with LTE).
Right now, the most open model of the Note 3 seems to be N9005. I'm not going to outright buy a new note 3 that I plan on replacing in 3 months. But when that time comes, are there some rules of thumb that I should know about to choose the most open model? From my limited experience, I've learned that buying through AT&T is a recipe for slavery. But, there are many non-AT&T options.
So, what's the best choice? an International model? A different LTE carrier's model unlocked? Or, is it too early to tell?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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n9005 is the most common and powerful , here in kuwait the stupid exynos version not even released cause people tired of it laggy and fake octa core and no one fancy owning 3g phone anymore
One thing I'd like to know is why are there so many variants of the Note 4?
What's the purpose, isn't the snapdragon 805 supposed to have so many LTE bands to precisely avoid having to force manufacturers to make so many phone variants, isn't it supposed to have global LTE?
Please don't tell me the only reason Samsung made so many variants is to cater to service providers that wanted the bootloader locked.
This situation is making development, root etc a nightmare.
Do you know if the s6 has a many variants as the Note 4? Or has Samsung continued this stupid trend?
I don't know about the S6 as I'm not interested with a phone without sdcard aupport but the many variants of the Note 4 are found in the USA and you're right it is partly to cater for the carriers as they play MONOPOLY. Korea has a different model I guess compared to china model and the rest of the world. I also wish they would make a phone with global LTE etc. But the Note 4 N910C and N910F have the best LTE coverage compared to previous models like Note 2 and Note 3.
I too don't understand it. surely upgrades would be easier as well I think the iPhone has only one variant
Hey guys I have a verizon note 4 and it is not root able at all. I have been wanting to stick with this great device but I miss root. I miss the freedom and capabilities it unlocked. I have been wondering which variant of the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is permanently rootable ? Is it a different US carriers variant? Or an international one that has this ability? I appreciate the help guys, thanks in advance.
Easier put this way, AT&T & Verizon are NOT rootable.
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Easier put this way, AT&T & Verizon are NOT rootable.
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Lol yea I've been looking for answers too and I've come to that conclusion. It seems all are rootable except Verizon and AT&T apparently. Not the next thing is who's device would be compatible with cricket, they use AT&T towers.
Research is a little slow moving. I'm buying a new phone. This seems to be the most complete in terms of features (removable SD and IR blaster which is a small thing but missing from other flagships I've considered.)
My only concern is my carrier AT&T. If I buy the note will I be able to flash twrp? Is there a huge difference in custom ROM/kernel options from sprint or T-Mobile? Is there a certain model I should try to get?-I'm buying it unlocked.
I think most people understand the tedious process of choosing a new phone if you're into flashing Roms. Any info that's helpful is most welcomed. Thanks.
I actually use att service also and just bought a Tmobile Note 4 in January and I have never been happie with any phone I have ever owned.. N910T is best in my opinion if you are big on root because it has way more active developement and it has all the same lte bands that att uses
The tmob variant should work fine but the 910c definitely works and I think the 910f does as well. I'd steer clear of the actual at&t variant itself unless they have solved the root/bootloader issue. I guess the question is of you are buying sim free do you want the exynos or snapdragon variant
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The Galaxy Note Edge still to this day does not have Root. I was wondering if it was worth it getting the Note 7 from At&t or should I get an unlocked one. What do you guys think?
I had the At&t Note 4 as well, which also never got root. I recently sold mine for over $200 on eBay and I found a T-Mobile Note 3 that I rooted and ROM'd and it is nearly as fast as the Note 5. I've already pre-ordered the Note 7 through At&t only because I've used the S7 Edge and it is fast enough to not really need root. But to be fair the S7 and S7 Edge do have root so it may be possible for the Note 7 to be rooted in a similar fashion. Now the bootloader is a whole nother story!
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whmgreen said:
I had the At&t Note 4 as well, which also never got root. I recently sold mine for over $200 on eBay and I found a T-Mobile Note 3 that I rooted and ROM'd and it is nearly as fast as the Note 5. I've already pre-ordered the Note 7 through At&t only because I've used the S7 Edge and it is fast enough to not really need root. But to be fair the S7 and S7 Edge do have root so it may be possible for the Note 7 to be rooted in a similar fashion. Now the bootloader is a whole nother story!
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It seems to really depend on the popularity of the phone, whether it gets root or not. The Note 4 Edge was a great phone, but was not that popular with the general public. With all the excitement generated for the Note 7, I think we will get root. I do really wish they had put the snapdragon 821 & 6GB of ram, like the rumors had said. Then it really would of been an iphone killer. Btw, I also Pre-ordered a Note 7.
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I had the At&t Note 4 as well, which also never got root. I recently sold mine for over $200 on eBay and I found a T-Mobile Note 3 that I rooted and ROM'd and it is nearly as fast as the Note 5. I've already pre-ordered the Note 7 through At&t only because I've used the S7 Edge and it is fast enough to not really need root. But to be fair the S7 and S7 Edge do have root so it may be possible for the Note 7 to be rooted in a similar fashion. Now the bootloader is a whole nother story!
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We do have root, what are you talking about lol. S7 edge Verizon rooted
I'm gonna also pre-order and I have AT&T. But I'm gonna go to best buy and out right buy the unlocked no plan version. AT&T can kiss my rear end, if it weren't for my wife not wanting to leave them I would have dumped them way back when bootloader got locked.
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I'm gonna also pre-order and I have AT&T. But I'm gonna go to best buy and out right buy the unlocked no plan version. AT&T can kiss my rear end, if it weren't for my wife not wanting to leave them I would have dumped them way back when bootloader got locked.
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Dont buy it from best buy, they upcharge. They wont carry a sim unlocked one anyways. Buy on amazon. For me as much as I used to like sammy I cant deal with locked bootloaders and the price tag is too high. If anything id consider a international exynos model s7 from amazon. Theres at least stable root and development.
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Dont buy it from best buy, they upcharge. They wont carry a sim unlocked one anyways. Buy on amazon. For me as much as I used to like sammy I cant deal with locked bootloaders and the price tag is too high. If anything id consider a international exynos model s7 from amazon. Theres at least stable root and development.
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Good advise, I went to best buy and asked if they were taking pre-orders for the unlocked version. She looked at me like I was talking some alien language. Gave me a weird expression and walked away.
You shouldn't support ANY carriers - including AT&T.
Buy unlocked and do what you want with YOUR device!
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We do have root, what are you talking about lol. S7 edge Verizon rooted
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Umm...can you read? I said S7 and S7 Edge CAN be rooted!!
HNIC215 said:
You shouldn't support ANY carriers - including AT&T.
Buy unlocked and do what you want with YOUR device!
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What model version is unlocked? Will it be possible to unlock the bootloader on this version as well? Thanks in advance
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What model version is unlocked? Will it be possible to unlock the bootloader on this version as well? Thanks in advance [/URL]
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N930F (Europe); N930G (India)
I think both of these models come unlocked and I think there are also dual sim variants that come unlocked as well. Not sure.
I always go for the F variant - N930F - which is usually the international unlocked version.
Yes, it should be possible to unlock the bootloader and root - at least it was on the S7 Edge I used to own.
Keep in mind, the international model uses the Exynos processor as opposed to the SD820 the US version uses.
They both have pros and cons - do your research before you purchase. Especially if you are planning to root, use Samsung Pay etc...
I prefer international for less bloat/carrier restrictions, better battery life, root etc...
P.S. -> if you root then no Samsung Pay
HNIC215 said:
N930F (Europe); N930G (India)
I think both of these models come unlocked and I think there are also dual sim variants that come unlocked as well. Not sure.
I always go for the F variant - N930F - which is usually the international unlocked version.
Yes, it should be possible to unlock the bootloader and root - at least it was on the S7 Edge I used to own.
Keep in mind, the international model uses the Exynos processor as opposed to the SD820 the US version uses.
They both have pros and cons - do your research before you purchase. Especially if you are planning to root, use Samsung Pay etc...
I prefer international for less bloat/carrier restrictions, better battery life, root etc...
P.S. -> if you root then no Samsung Pay
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Thank you for your input! Can't do a phone without unlockable BL. I don't even know what Samsung pay is so that's okay.
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Don't the unlocked phones use different frequencies/channels compare to US carriers and might not get full potential of US LTE network?
Even between US carriers the frequencies/channels are different. For example my Note 3 T-mob doesn't use some channels that Att uses and I can't get full LTE speeds on ATT network because of that.
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Don't the unlocked phones use different frequencies/channels compare to US carriers and might not get full potential of US LTE network?
Even between US carriers the frequencies/channels are different. For example my Note 3 T-mob doesn't use some channels that Att uses and I can't get full LTE speeds on ATT network because of that.
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Not anymore, Almost all unlocked variants work perfect with all US carriers..I have international Note5 on AT&T
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will I be able to flash Indian firmware on a note7 purchased from Dubai? The models in India and Dubai are same. SM-N930FD
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rajat_delhi said:
will I be able to flash Indian firmware on a note7 purchased from Dubai? The models in India and Dubai are same. SM-N930FD
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As long as model numbers are same, you can...
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