The Galaxy Note Edge still to this day does not have Root. I was wondering if it was worth it getting the Note 7 from At&t or should I get an unlocked one. What do you guys think?
I had the At&t Note 4 as well, which also never got root. I recently sold mine for over $200 on eBay and I found a T-Mobile Note 3 that I rooted and ROM'd and it is nearly as fast as the Note 5. I've already pre-ordered the Note 7 through At&t only because I've used the S7 Edge and it is fast enough to not really need root. But to be fair the S7 and S7 Edge do have root so it may be possible for the Note 7 to be rooted in a similar fashion. Now the bootloader is a whole nother story!
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I had the At&t Note 4 as well, which also never got root. I recently sold mine for over $200 on eBay and I found a T-Mobile Note 3 that I rooted and ROM'd and it is nearly as fast as the Note 5. I've already pre-ordered the Note 7 through At&t only because I've used the S7 Edge and it is fast enough to not really need root. But to be fair the S7 and S7 Edge do have root so it may be possible for the Note 7 to be rooted in a similar fashion. Now the bootloader is a whole nother story!
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It seems to really depend on the popularity of the phone, whether it gets root or not. The Note 4 Edge was a great phone, but was not that popular with the general public. With all the excitement generated for the Note 7, I think we will get root. I do really wish they had put the snapdragon 821 & 6GB of ram, like the rumors had said. Then it really would of been an iphone killer. Btw, I also Pre-ordered a Note 7.
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I had the At&t Note 4 as well, which also never got root. I recently sold mine for over $200 on eBay and I found a T-Mobile Note 3 that I rooted and ROM'd and it is nearly as fast as the Note 5. I've already pre-ordered the Note 7 through At&t only because I've used the S7 Edge and it is fast enough to not really need root. But to be fair the S7 and S7 Edge do have root so it may be possible for the Note 7 to be rooted in a similar fashion. Now the bootloader is a whole nother story!
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We do have root, what are you talking about lol. S7 edge Verizon rooted
I'm gonna also pre-order and I have AT&T. But I'm gonna go to best buy and out right buy the unlocked no plan version. AT&T can kiss my rear end, if it weren't for my wife not wanting to leave them I would have dumped them way back when bootloader got locked.
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I'm gonna also pre-order and I have AT&T. But I'm gonna go to best buy and out right buy the unlocked no plan version. AT&T can kiss my rear end, if it weren't for my wife not wanting to leave them I would have dumped them way back when bootloader got locked.
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Dont buy it from best buy, they upcharge. They wont carry a sim unlocked one anyways. Buy on amazon. For me as much as I used to like sammy I cant deal with locked bootloaders and the price tag is too high. If anything id consider a international exynos model s7 from amazon. Theres at least stable root and development.
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Dont buy it from best buy, they upcharge. They wont carry a sim unlocked one anyways. Buy on amazon. For me as much as I used to like sammy I cant deal with locked bootloaders and the price tag is too high. If anything id consider a international exynos model s7 from amazon. Theres at least stable root and development.
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Good advise, I went to best buy and asked if they were taking pre-orders for the unlocked version. She looked at me like I was talking some alien language. Gave me a weird expression and walked away.
You shouldn't support ANY carriers - including AT&T.
Buy unlocked and do what you want with YOUR device!
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We do have root, what are you talking about lol. S7 edge Verizon rooted
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Umm...can you read? I said S7 and S7 Edge CAN be rooted!!
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You shouldn't support ANY carriers - including AT&T.
Buy unlocked and do what you want with YOUR device!
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What model version is unlocked? Will it be possible to unlock the bootloader on this version as well? Thanks in advance
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What model version is unlocked? Will it be possible to unlock the bootloader on this version as well? Thanks in advance [/URL]
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N930F (Europe); N930G (India)
I think both of these models come unlocked and I think there are also dual sim variants that come unlocked as well. Not sure.
I always go for the F variant - N930F - which is usually the international unlocked version.
Yes, it should be possible to unlock the bootloader and root - at least it was on the S7 Edge I used to own.
Keep in mind, the international model uses the Exynos processor as opposed to the SD820 the US version uses.
They both have pros and cons - do your research before you purchase. Especially if you are planning to root, use Samsung Pay etc...
I prefer international for less bloat/carrier restrictions, better battery life, root etc...
P.S. -> if you root then no Samsung Pay
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N930F (Europe); N930G (India)
I think both of these models come unlocked and I think there are also dual sim variants that come unlocked as well. Not sure.
I always go for the F variant - N930F - which is usually the international unlocked version.
Yes, it should be possible to unlock the bootloader and root - at least it was on the S7 Edge I used to own.
Keep in mind, the international model uses the Exynos processor as opposed to the SD820 the US version uses.
They both have pros and cons - do your research before you purchase. Especially if you are planning to root, use Samsung Pay etc...
I prefer international for less bloat/carrier restrictions, better battery life, root etc...
P.S. -> if you root then no Samsung Pay
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Thank you for your input! Can't do a phone without unlockable BL. I don't even know what Samsung pay is so that's okay.
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Don't the unlocked phones use different frequencies/channels compare to US carriers and might not get full potential of US LTE network?
Even between US carriers the frequencies/channels are different. For example my Note 3 T-mob doesn't use some channels that Att uses and I can't get full LTE speeds on ATT network because of that.
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Don't the unlocked phones use different frequencies/channels compare to US carriers and might not get full potential of US LTE network?
Even between US carriers the frequencies/channels are different. For example my Note 3 T-mob doesn't use some channels that Att uses and I can't get full LTE speeds on ATT network because of that.
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Not anymore, Almost all unlocked variants work perfect with all US carriers..I have international Note5 on AT&T
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will I be able to flash Indian firmware on a note7 purchased from Dubai? The models in India and Dubai are same. SM-N930FD
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will I be able to flash Indian firmware on a note7 purchased from Dubai? The models in India and Dubai are same. SM-N930FD
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As long as model numbers are same, you can...
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I would definitely prefer an unbranded phone, usually that means 'International' model? Any suggestions on where I should be looking to buy one?
Here on "pre-order launch" day, the only offers I see are for carrier branded phones.
In case I've made an error in logic, I'll note what I'm trying to do: I use a MVNO GSM carrier with an unlimited data plan, so I'm looking for a "GSM" S7-EDGE that is carrier unlocked. I'll check the LTE bands and all... the question is, where to buy one of these?
Not sure on international models however you'll want to check out tmobile. There always unbranded and I believe I read somewhere it has all 4 bands except cmda? Can't confirm the cmda one. Also the bootloader are unlocked.
Expansys and eBay are your best bets when the time comes
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Not sure on international models however you'll want to check out tmobile. There always unbranded and I believe I read somewhere it has all 4 bands except cmda? Can't confirm the cmda one. Also the bootloader are unlocked.
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TMOBILE phones are not Unbranded at all - they include a bunch of bloat and their branding is all over the software in their phones - I don't think they put the name TMOBILE on the phone itself, but I thnk Unbranded means much more than just that. I am not meaning to criticize, just pointing out the fact that I don't think TMOBILE Phones could be considered unbranded.
Having said that, they do work beautifully on other compatible networks.
Just preordered my Samsung Galaxy S7 (930T). Hopefully this T-Mobile phone will get rooted quick. I'm done with AT&T phones.... paid outright, and will unlock through T-Mobile....
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TMOBILE phones are not Unbranded at all - they include a bunch of bloat and their branding is all over the software in their phones - I don't think they put the name TMOBILE on the phone itself, but I thnk Unbranded means much more than just that. I am not meaning to criticize, just pointing out the fact that I don't think TMOBILE Phones could be considered unbranded.
Having said that, they do work beautifully on other compatible networks.
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He might be talking about the international versions and not the US version.
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He might be talking about the international versions and not the US version.
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My Bad... thanks for the heads up
Here's an unlocked probably European phone from Expansys
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-unlocked-32gb-black-onyx-288135/
I think it's the European because it's listed as an Octa core (Processor: Octa-Core / 2.3 GHz Quad + 1.6 GHz Quad) if I'm not mistaken the SD820 isn't Octa but the Exynos is and Europe is supposed to be getting Exynos.
If those bands are correct that is very limiting. I'd still hold out and wait to see the full support listing.
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Isn't that you can just use qualcomm's QXDM,QPST and DFS to unlock all the band? Just need have root first.
maybe, but you should rely on it. Let's just say for example Samsung changes how things are in this version or we can't find an exploit for 6 months to a 1 year? That's just me though. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
So I was planning to get the international version (Exynos) Galaxy S7 Edge, but After using the Live Chat on Samsung website, they told me as of today the International Version of S7 DOESN"T support the Samsung Pay yet.... any ideas?
I am trying to unlock one for my family member from t mobile. Anyway to unlock it for international use without paying a fortune?
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Is it true what they are saying that when you first put the sim in the phone and turn it on it locks itself to that carrier?? SO IF I PUT IN att sim in tmobile phone it will be locked to att ?
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Just preordered my Samsung Galaxy S7 (930T). Hopefully this T-Mobile phone will get rooted quick. I'm done with AT&T phones.... paid outright, and will unlock through T-Mobile....
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Sorry to break it to you but the bootloader on the TMO S7 Edge is locked down now like ATT and Verizon without root available
"And on that bombshell!"
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Check out the Canadian version sm-g935w8. It has exynos, supports samsung pay and can be rooted. The specs say it supports all the north American lte bands. If you buy one from a Canadian samsung experience store, it comes with factory unlock codes
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I'm getting an Exynos S7 Edge and am thinking of installing an unbranded Rom from Sammobile, any idea which?
I'm in Australia, so no Samsung Pay yet, but it could be handy.
I'm sure certain European Roms get updates sooner too.
Ok, checked Sammobile again and this looks safe. Looks to be an unbranded Australian rom.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/67083/G935FXXU1APAW_G935FXSA1APAW_XSA/
Many variants are available with Snapdragon CPU and I want to ask that whether each of them is with locked bootloader or not?
The Snapdragon variants have locked bootloader.
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The Snapdragon variants have locked bootloader.
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Are you sure about that? T-Mobile has not locked the bootloader of any recent Samsung device that I know of. I'd be surprised if the G935T was locked.
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Ok, I'm surprised.
ROOT DISCUSSION - R.I.P. Sticky Root Guide - SM-G935T -> STATUS -> LOCKED BOOTLOADER
RIP Snapdragon root. but anyway what does it mean to have a locked bootloader?
I have Exynos, so i think im happy lol
Someone might find a way around it, it'll just be much more difficult.
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Someone will find a way around it, it'll just be much more difficult.
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Hasn't happened yet for GS6/S6E/S6E+ and Note5 devices on AT&T or Verizon, and the bounty for the Verizon Note5 is over $1,000. Don't hold your breath for too long.
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Hasn't happened yet for GS6/S6E/S6E+ and Note5 devices on AT&T or Verizon, and the bounty for the Verizon Note5 is over $1,000. Don't hold your breath for too long.
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I'm not too bothered won't affect me. It will be almost impossible but not completely impossible.
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It's quite ironic, the Snapdragon variants would have been the most fun to root and ROM, allowing for both TW and AOSP type custom ROMs. But they locked the SD820 variants down with secure signature verification stuff... So lame.
I wouldn't be surprised if all the snapdragon variants were bootloader locked since they are all tied to carriers all of of which aside from T-Mobile and Sprint (which are probably locked too now) have a history of locking bootloaders. I am not only talking about the U.S. Look at the Japanese market, NTT DoCoMo has been locking down it's phones forever.
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I wouldn't be surprised if all the snapdragon variants were bootloader locked since they are all tied to carriers all of of which aside from T-Mobile and Sprint (which are probably locked too now) have a history of locking bootloaders. I am not only talking about the U.S. Look at the Japanese market, NTT DoCoMo has been locking down it's phones forever.
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Is the locking of bootloader new? Is it like the newimpenetrable Denuvo DRM?, both put it against piracy and customizing software?
Holy crap, a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy phone has a locked bootloader !!!! Unbelievable. Never thought I'd see the day. How did this even happen ? Did T-Mobile give in ?
I was waiting for root on the S7 Edge, before buying it, guess I'm not getting this phone now. And then what does this mean for the Note 6 ? Same BS locked down ?
Guess I might sell my Note 5 now for the Nexus 6P.
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Holy crap, a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy phone has a locked bootloader !!!! Unbelievable. Never thought I'd see the day. How did this even happen ? Did T-Mobile give in ?
I was waiting for root on the S7 Edge, before buying it, guess I'm not getting this phone now. And then what does this mean for the Note 6 ? Same BS locked down ?
Guess I might sell my Note 5 now for the Nexus 6P.
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You could always get the International version, which isn't bootloader locked.
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My Wife and I are on JoD with T-Mobile, we both signed up on T-Mobile last Summer when the Note 5 launched. I went to Tmo for the development community and custom ROM's the Note 5 would have, and it did, and I've been a happy camper here.
But...
If this is the new trend, the S7 Edge being locked means no "Jumping" onto this phone now, and maybe the Note 6 will also be in this horrible situation too. Leaves me questioning even sticking with T-Mobile now, as the other phones I like are the Nexus phones.
My question is, since T-Mobile isn't really a contract carrier anymore, how can I get out of it ? Our two Note 5's were on the JoD program, can we just return these N5's into T-Mobile, and cancel the service and be clean and free done ? Or would there be some payment needed ? Or if maybe stick with T-Mobile, but still get the Nexus 6P and not be on JoD anymore, how much does that save not having two phones on JoD anymore ?
There should be only one variant capable for everything (I mean for custom ROMs and MODs by default), only one variant everywhere in the world and on every carrier. But I know this is just a dream.
Hey All!
I'm currently using the s5 active, and I'm looking for an upgrade. I'm looking for a phone with a great camera, so obviously s7 edge has come up.
I'm planning on using this phone primarily in Vietnam, so I wanted to ask a few questions about which variant you all suggest.
1. Are all versions sim unlocked? I read online that verizon is, but I also read that some other ones I need to buy codes. Is it relatively easy to unlock the other variants (without paying money)? I'm not shy about flashing and odin things so if it's complicated that's fine too, as long as it's possible.
2. Hows the unified development? I love flashing roms and trying out new ones, if you were to buy a new s7 edge and didn't care about carrier, is there one that you would recommend over the others? I'm on the ATT s5 active now, and locked bootloader sucks. So I'm hoping to avoid that if I can.
If you can buy the exynos version, it's SIM unlock and easily rootable. All USA version are based on Qualcomm and with locked boot loader so no development for it.
G935 exynos is your choice, but I'd wait for S8
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If you can buy the exynos version, it's SIM unlock and easily rootable. All USA version are based on Qualcomm and with locked boot loader so no development for it.
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Ah okay. Maybe I'll check out some other phones then. Thanks!
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G935 exynos is your choice, but I'd wait for S8
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Thanks! haha, but since I'm not on any US plan, I figured I'd buy a used one instead. Although, if I wait till the s8 comes out, I'm sure there will be a nice price drop for a used s7.
Although now I gotta think if I want to look into HTC or LG for my development needs =D
Ah. One more question. People are generally saying touchwiz now isn't terrible. So if carriers have OTA updates, are they easily flashed in other countries? With my att sg5, it was pretty difficult to get updates abroad.
So I'm assuming that there's still no way to root US (snapdragon variants, in my case, T-Mobile) Galaxy S8 handsets. Is this still the case? Haven't been able to find a sure fire answer.
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So I'm assuming that there's still no way to root US (snapdragon variants, in my case, T-Mobile) Galaxy S8 handsets. Is this still the case? Haven't been able to find a sure fire answer.
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No root. Can switch firmware carrier to carrier.
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No root. Can switch firmware carrier to carrier.
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That seriously sucks. Looking to upgrade from my S6 and the S8 is the only phone T-Mobile carries that's caught my eye. I can deal with no custom roms, but if there's no root that's a complete deal breaker. Bummer.
Buy the international version from ebay.
Get Exynos unlocked bl and enjoy it on XDA!
I have a sprint galaxy s8, I know already that flashing the firmware of the unlocked version isn't going to unlock my phone, but is there any benefits if I did flash it?
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I have a sprint galaxy s8, I know already that flashing the firmware of the unlocked version isn't going to unlock my phone, but is there any benefits if I did flash it?
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No bloatware
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Yes there are. There's some cons too.
Many individuals claim better battery with the unlocked firmware but I saw a small hit tbh. Maybe it's because of the lack of 4x4 and 256QAM.
I personally only use the unlocked firmware because it has a better locking LTE icon that tmobile lol
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S8 experience
Looking for help on deciding what to do about the note 8. Looking for words of advise from you s8/8+ ppl since you already have experience.
Did not have the note 7 long obviously and honestly did not even realize it was locked down tight. Soooo now i am thinking about buying the international note 8 instead of the us one since i hear it will be able to be rooted. Soooo my questions to you guys
1) what do i lose by buying the international version?
2) what do i gain (other than flsshing) by buying the international verdion.
3) will the international version work on both sprint and tmobile should i decide to switch.
4) what's the best way to buy the international version and what do i beed to look out for. All the s8's on amazon i have seen only appear to work on tmobile.
Thanks for any and all help
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