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[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.

Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!

wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.

A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.

just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw

midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?

I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?

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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??

deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.

deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.

Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.

deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

[Q] Should i root my Samsung galaxy S4?

Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?

Michael1290 said:
Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.

Jason2k13 said:
You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?

Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.

Jason2k13 said:
Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500

Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.

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super nice and very good !
THX

If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question

I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.

Rooting all depends on your need while using s4

If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.

S4 Flash Google Edition Rom Beginner Need Helping

Hello, I have just got a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 White 16GB in the UK locked to the O2 network. This is my first time using an Android phone and I have looked around and saw the Google Edition, how do I flash it onto my phone? is there any drawbacks is the ROM the official one, it will not damage my phone or anything will it? I have warranty on it, I do know rooting and flashing voids the warranty but will I be able to unroot and go back to the official OS that was on the phone?
I just want the Google Play Edition as I find the Touchwiz UI horrible and GPE is apparently quite faster and better for battery life.
Please help me and please take into consideration that I am a beginner and have never done this kind of stuff, thanks.

That's simple.
You need:
Heimdall suite: https://github.com/downloads/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/heimdall-suite-1.3.2-win32.zip
CWM Recovery: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348272
1.Install heimdall on pc
2. download recovery for your device
3.Turn off phone > Press vol down + home +power button, you will go to download mode
4.run heimdall with command prompt and type: heimdall flash --recovery yourrecovery.img if that will not work type: heimdall flash --RECOVERY yourrecovery.img
5. Turn off your phone and go to recovery by pressing vol up + home + power button
6. Wipe data and flash your rom from sd card.
7. Reboot.
8. Enjoy.
Press thanks if it work for You.

ShadowBlazeSheff said:
Hello, I have just got a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 White 16GB in the UK locked to the O2 network. This is my first time using an Android phone and I have looked around and saw the Google Edition, how do I flash it onto my phone? is there any drawbacks is the ROM the official one, it will not damage my phone or anything will it? I have warranty on it, I do know rooting and flashing voids the warranty but will I be able to unroot and go back to the official OS that was on the phone?
I just want the Google Play Edition as I find the Touchwiz UI horrible and GPE is apparently quite faster and better for battery life.
Please help me and please take into consideration that I am a beginner and have never done this kind of stuff, thanks.
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First what firmware are you currently on? I have an o2 model and I believe they are still officially on 4.2.2. firmware I think. If you are on a 4.2.2 firmware pre knox bootloaders you'll be fine. You can root and later use triangle away to clear the counters. If you are on a KNOX bootloader then rooting will make it impossible for you to downgrade to a lower firmware.
Rooting is easy, you just need to flash CF-Root, flash custom recovery and good to go using Odin. There are a few different GPE roms around so read the relevant threads and see what users are saying in regards to the roms.

I have no idea what Knox and stuff is, I'm a basic beginner so I basically know nothing, here is screenshot of it

Just checked I have Knox installed so rooting and stuff will void my warranty forever without any chance of getting it back right?

An easy way to check is to shut down your phone, hold the volume down + home button + power button until you are presented with a green Android and a warning about download mode, press whichever it is to go to download mode (don't worry, to get out of it just hold down the power button and then restart your phone). You are looking for knox warranty or something like that with a 0x0 or 0x1 beside it, if it isn't in the list in the top left corner, you are pre-knox bootloader and you are fine to follow the instructions provided above.
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I have done it and it seems I do not have this supposed Knox thing, btw can you give me a link with good instructions on how to cf flash, install custom recovery and use odin? I also don't know what GPE rom to go with, I just want one that is fast, stable and makes my battery life good

Hi,
Just wanted to put my 2 pence in and help with choosing a ROM.
I have flashed both GPE other roms on my S4 and I must say the best Rom in terms of battery (speed, size and customisation) is PACman rom. This may not he very helpful if you are definitely wanting to go pure android but I was in the same position and after using PACman its hard to recommend anything else.
You will lose some Sammy services like smart scroll, samsung camera functions, s-health and others but if you can live with that have a play and try out the different roms.
Once rooted and added a recovery (I use CWM) you can flash and flash any roms you like to try.
Give the rom a day or 2 to settle and see what you like the best.
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Hi everyone!
Basicly I can't install Samsung based ROMs on my s4 i9505. I am able to install only aosp based ROMs. I flashed manyroms starting from Omega, echoe and many more.
I even tried to flash stock ROM but it is not rebooting and gives bootloops.
Appreciated for all your advises.

blondbond said:
Hi,
Just wanted to put my 2 pence in and help with choosing a ROM.
I have flashed both GPE other roms on my S4 and I must say the best Rom in terms of battery (speed, size and customisation) is PACman rom. This may not he very helpful if you are definitely wanting to go pure android but I was in the same position and after using PACman its hard to recommend anything else.
You will lose some Sammy services like smart scroll, samsung camera functions, s-health and others but if you can live with that have a play and try out the different roms.
Once rooted and added a recovery (I use CWM) you can flash and flash any roms you like to try.
Give the rom a day or 2 to settle and see what you like the best.
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Hi, I'm not really looking for customisation as such, but since you've had experience with GPE ROMS which is the best GPE version for battery and performance/speed?

i9505 GE Rom
ShadowBlazeSheff said:
Hi, I'm not really looking for customisation as such, but since you've had experience with GPE ROMS which is the best GPE version for battery and performance/speed?
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My personal best experience was to use the ROM Here
Its very quick and has a couple of little extras for you.
May I say that you will need to ROOT your device which will void your warranty.
Im not 100% sure how O2 set their devices up but you may need to see if there are any O2 related apps you need/want to keep also before flashing.
You will also need to install a recovery.
The procedure is very simple and their are some very detailed explanations and step by step guides on how to achieve this.
Please think carefully about what your next step is as its very easy to root and then unroot but some devices have KNOX built in to them which means as soon as you root you "flip a switch" (a sort of eswitch) which cant, as of yet, be flipped back again and no amount of "unrooting" will reset your device exactly how it was before modifying.
It sounds daunting but everyone on here is really helpful and you are not the first to be trying this for the first time. There are 100's of users all doing the same thing as you and asking all the right questions. Everyone has a point of view and some people may prefer one thing over another. Once you are ready let us know and we can point you in a few more directions/posts.

blondbond said:
My personal best experience was to use the ROM Here
Its very quick and has a couple of little extras for you.
May I say that you will need to ROOT your device which will void your warranty.
Im not 100% sure how O2 set their devices up but you may need to see if there are any O2 related apps you need/want to keep also before flashing.
You will also need to install a recovery.
The procedure is very simple and their are some very detailed explanations and step by step guides on how to achieve this.
Please think carefully about what your next step is as its very easy to root and then unroot but some devices have KNOX built in to them which means as soon as you root you "flip a switch" (a sort of eswitch) which cant, as of yet, be flipped back again and no amount of "unrooting" will reset your device exactly how it was before modifying.
It sounds daunting but everyone on here is really helpful and you are not the first to be trying this for the first time. There are 100's of users all doing the same thing as you and asking all the right questions. Everyone has a point of view and some people may prefer one thing over another. Once you are ready let us know and we can point you in a few more directions/posts.
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Hello, thanks for your reply, I checked through that download mode on my S4 and I did not see that Knox counter 0x0 or 0x1 or any mention of it anywhere so it's safe to say that I am on 4.2.2 pre knox bootloader, I am currently looking on CF-Flash root using Odin, will look into recovery but since you have experience could you recommend me to a guide for the recovery you are using which I see a lot of people use

ShadowBlazeSheff said:
Hello, thanks for your reply, I checked through that download mode on my S4 and I did not see that Knox counter 0x0 or 0x1 or any mention of it anywhere so it's safe to say that I am on 4.2.2 pre knox bootloader, I am currently looking on CF-Flash root using Odin, will look into recovery but since you have experience could you recommend me to a guide for the recovery you are using which I see a lot of people use
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Here is a brilliant guide to rooting, recoveries using the most common and tried and tested methods and products (I use CWM recovery but have also use Philz and TWRP) they all have their merits and all do similar things.
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE AND ALL SUB LINKS - IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT HIT US UP HERE AND WE CAN HELP YOU
Good luck and happy rooting

blondbond said:
Here is a brilliant guide to rooting, recoveries using the most common and tried and tested methods and products (I use CWM recovery but have also use Philz and TWRP) they all have their merits and all do similar things.
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE AND ALL SUB LINKS - IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT HIT US UP HERE AND WE CAN HELP YOU
Good luck and happy rooting
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You know the GPE ROM you recommended, will it work for my GT-I9505 UK O2 model, it's locked to O2 if that makes any difference?

This should work fine. But I would maybe do a little diggin to see if it does.
My device was a Vodafone device and I used this with no problems at all.
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Mine is locked to Meteor Ireland and I installed (a different) GE ROM with zero issues. It booted first time, and from my own experience that's a rarity!
Best of luck with it, I love the GE ROM especially since I have the one thing I thought wouldn't work: the IR blaster! There's a watchON apk on xda somewhere and it's great! It fcs a few times but it will work!

Nice ^^
May I also suggest you do this:
Root device and install recovery
Make a Nandroid backup from within recovery and save that to your external SD card
Then go ahead and flash new rom
That way if anything should go wrong you can just restore your phone from your Nandroid back up.
Very useful
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blondbond said:
Nice ^^
May I also suggest you do this:
Root device and install recovery
Make a Nandroid backup from within recovery and save that to your external SD card
Then go ahead and flash new rom
That way if anything should go wrong you can just restore your phone from your Nandroid back up.
Very useful
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Do this! Then copy the backup folder onto your PC also. Nandroid backups have saved me many times! It's easy to forget.
I've been doing this for years and forgot with my S4 to install a custom recovery That was a bit silly, then flashed without a nandroid backup, that's a bad idea!
Even if there isn't any issue sometimes you just think: I don't like this and prefered it the way it was, you can have it back to EXACTLY the way it was in about 5 mins with a backup!

I do not have a external SD card at the moment, will this be problem??

Thanks everyone, I've managed to get a 4.3 GPE ROM installed!!!

[Q] Longtime IOS jailbreaker turned Android Noob..so..where do I start?

Hello all! I'm new to android and have been doing my research on the forums, youtube, google, under rocks, voodoo doctors, you name it. I've been able to grasp some things but many questions remain. phone: AT&T Note 3 on KitKat
1) Since it's not possible to root kitkat without tripping knox, what exactly do you lose in the warranty?
2)Which root method do you suggest if I plan on utilizing all what the custom rom/firmware world has to offer?
3)Is custom recovery meant to assist with the knox issue?
4) Can anyone direct me where to find certain tweaks/roms associated with reversing some of the KitKat bugs? Like the sdcard issue, the sview issue, and anymore important ones?
5)Is there a noob friendly faq on how to download roms on the phone and etc? Possibly a list of definitions?
Any and all links are greatly appreciated. I'm sure after a few weeks I'll be more accustomed to Android and all the ups and downs.
Thanks to all in advance!

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AscendedWisdom said:
Hello all! I'm new to android and have been doing my research on the forums, youtube, google, under rocks, voodoo doctors, you name it. I've been able to grasp some things but many questions remain. phone: AT&T Note 3 on KitKat
1) Since it's not possible to root kitkat without tripping knox, what exactly do you lose in the warranty?
2)Which root method do you suggest if I plan on utilizing all what the custom rom/firmware world has to offer?
3)Is custom recovery meant to assist with the knox issue?
4) Can anyone direct me where to find certain tweaks/roms associated with reversing some of the KitKat bugs? Like the sdcard issue, the sview issue, and anymore important ones?
5)Is there a noob friendly faq on how to download roms on the phone and etc? Possibly a list of definitions?
Any and all links are greatly appreciated. I'm sure after a few weeks I'll be more accustomed to Android and all the ups and downs.
Thanks to all in advance!
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1. technically ur warranty will void.
2. root methoeds, custom rom & etc are depend on users experience u should read users feedback and decide what to do
If i say X root method and Y rom is good it doesn't mean it will good also for u cause there s lots of options and u should search for what u want or need.
3. wht u mean by know issue? if u mean know counter so when u root ur device it will turn to 0x1 (if i remember correctly)
4. - again u should search by urself cause there s always different reports from custom ROMs! go and spend time in dev section
5. If u want official roms sammobile.com collects all of them but for custom ROM there s always download link in their threads & also tutorials.
list of roms
root info (as u can find in this link, cf-root is one of them best root method for galaxy)
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AscendedWisdom said:
Hello all! I'm new to android and have been doing my research on the forums, youtube, google, under rocks, voodoo doctors, you name it. I've been able to grasp some things but many questions remain. phone: AT&T Note 3 on KitKat
1) Since it's not possible to root kitkat without tripping knox, what exactly do you lose in the warranty?
2)Which root method do you suggest if I plan on utilizing all what the custom rom/firmware world has to offer?
3)Is custom recovery meant to assist with the knox issue?
4) Can anyone direct me where to find certain tweaks/roms associated with reversing some of the KitKat bugs? Like the sdcard issue, the sview issue, and anymore important ones?
5)Is there a noob friendly faq on how to download roms on the phone and etc? Possibly a list of definitions?
Any and all links are greatly appreciated. I'm sure after a few weeks I'll be more accustomed to Android and all the ups and downs.
Thanks to all in advance!
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Congrats on freeing yourself from IOS, and welcome to Android! Anyway, I'd like to ask first, since you're new to android, why would you want to "root" your phone? Unless you've got really good reason, I would suggest that you enjoy first the stock experience and learn the basics first. You can actually do a lot with android without having root access.

tclocki said:
why would you want to "root" your phone?
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Upgrade to Kitkat and want to write to storage cards with 3rd party apps...
Theme, run custom roms, debloat stock apps and actually OWN your device....
Did that answer your question?

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Upgrade to Kitkat and want to write to storage cards with 3rd party apps...
Theme, run custom roms, debloat stock apps and actually OWN your device....
Did that answer your question?
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Yes i agree..
But for someone that has come from an apple device, i wouldnt bother for a few weeks.
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celderic said:
Yes i agree..
But for someone that has come from an apple device, i wouldnt bother for a few weeks.
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Exactly. You dont need root to theme your phone. You dont need root to install some custom roms. We dont want a new user to do things he still dont understand which might lead him to doing an uninformed action on his phone which ultimately might end up ruinning his first android experience. I dont want to see more posts saying android is slow and laggy, it drains my battery fast and it sucks like hell - just because he unconciously did something to his (rooted and even sometimes, unrooted) device.

Thanks for the advice guys. It was definitely wiser to just enjoy and explore the phone for a couple weeks. I'm absolutely in love with it. I have upgraded to KitKat via the OTA update (slightly better battery, like the minor visual tweaks and even the faster unlock) and I'm ready to root the phone. The only thing is, I have a SMN900A and it seems that this build can't be rooted yet, is this true?
Also, I'm having a few issues with some apps not working time to time (TouchWiz has stopped, email has stopped, etc notifications..but then they work a few seconds later). Any advice on something I could do to prevent this?
And I really want to get rid of this bloatware on my phone, so much useless junk!!

AscendedWisdom said:
Thanks for the advice guys. It was definitely wiser to just enjoy and explore the phone for a couple weeks. I'm absolutely in love with it. I have upgraded to KitKat via the OTA update (slightly better battery, like the minor visual tweaks and even the faster unlock) and I'm ready to root the phone. The only thing is, I have a SMN900A and it seems that this build can't be rooted yet, is this true?
Also, I'm having a few issues with some apps not working time to time (TouchWiz has stopped, email has stopped, etc notifications..but then they work a few seconds later). Any advice on something I could do to prevent this?
And I really want to get rid of this bloatware on my phone, so much useless junk!!
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Welcome, im a former jailbreaker myself. Welcome to the dark side ?
Please remeber always read read and read again when youre rooting.
I can put rooting to you in a very primitive form
1) download samsung usb drivers
2) download odin
3) download custom recovery (Clockwork mod [CWM] or TWRP)
-- essentially both do the same but some are better developed for certain devices
4) download Custom ROM and put it on you sdcard / extsdcard
5) put phone into download mode (volume down + home + power)
6) flash custom recovery using PDA
7) let phone reboot then go into recovery mode (volume up + home + power)
8) BACKUP!!!! This is called a nandroid, its basically a snapshot of your phone.
If anything goes wrong, or you're unhappy with the new ROM you are about to flash
Ypu can revert to your nandroid, ie. Travel back in time.
**** if you are going from stock or another rom to a new rom you must do a full wipe
**** if your custom rom has AROMA which is a wizard it should give you the option
**** if it doesnt have AROMA you will need to do a sytem wipe / cache / dalvik cache wipe
9) Flash via (install zip via sdcard) and enjoy
Please use this as a general guideline.
Read read read the thread whereyou are going to flash from.
Once you have flashed a custome recovery your knox switch will become 0x1 voiding your warranty
Also it should be the last time you flash a custome recovery ie. You can just do step 4. And skip 5 and 6
Altogether.
Happy flashing
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"Skate where the puck’s going, not where it’s been.”
- Wayne Gretzsky

Thanks for the mini guide! I have done my share of reading but I don't to attempt anything without being sure the N900Acucunc2 (not sure if I wrote that baseband right) can in fact be rooted on 4.4.2.
LiMz said:
Welcome, im a former jailbreaker myself. Welcome to the dark side ?
Please remeber always read read and read again when youre rooting.
I can put rooting to you in a very primitive form
1) download samsung usb drivers
2) download odin
3) download custom recovery (Clockwork mod [CWM] or TWRP)
-- essentially both do the same but some are better developed for certain devices
4) download Custom ROM and put it on you sdcard / extsdcard
5) put phone into download mode (volume down + home + power)
6) flash custom recovery using PDA
7) let phone reboot then go into recovery mode (volume up + home + power)
8) BACKUP!!!! This is called a nandroid, its basically a snapshot of your phone.
If anything goes wrong, or you're unhappy with the new ROM you are about to flash
Ypu can revert to your nandroid, ie. Travel back in time.
**** if you are going from stock or another rom to a new rom you must do a full wipe
**** if your custom rom has AROMA which is a wizard it should give you the option
**** if it doesnt have AROMA you will need to do a sytem wipe / cache / dalvik cache wipe
9) Flash via (install zip via sdcard) and enjoy
Please use this as a general guideline.
Read read read the thread whereyou are going to flash from.
Once you have flashed a custome recovery your knox switch will become 0x1 voiding your warranty
Also it should be the last time you flash a custome recovery ie. You can just do step 4. And skip 5 and 6
Altogether.
Happy flashing
--
"Skate where the puck’s going, not where it’s been.”
- Wayne Gretzsky
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AscendedWisdom said:
Thanks for the mini guide! I have done my share of reading but I don't to attempt anything without being sure the N900Acucunc2 (not sure if I wrote that baseband right) can in fact be rooted on 4.4.2.
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Welcome to Android. Your N900A bootloader is locked so your kinda restricted. Most people bought a Tmo N3 instead since it's bootloader unlocked and use it on the ATT network. You should move over to the ATT Note 3 forums. This forum is for the international variant of the Note 3. N9005/N900

Noob Note 4 user

I know ill probably get flamed for asking but ill ask anyway...
i just got my note 4 n910f. i'd like to root and custom recovery. or flash a customized rom with all of the above + improvements.. (as i did with my s3).
So, I'd like a recommendation for the "best" ROM out there for my phone.
another question i have is this device is different than my old s3, i read here that there are new security measures to detect if a customized rom was installed. I dont want to lose my warranty so id like to know if i can go back if necessary.
that's all thanks

predatorftp said:
I know ill probably get flamed for asking but ill ask anyway...
i just got my note 4 n910f. i'd like to root and custom recovery. or flash a customized rom with all of the above + improvements.. (as i did with my s3).
So, I'd like a recommendation for the "best" ROM out there for my phone.
another question i have is this device is different than my old s3, i read here that there are new security measures to detect if a customized rom was installed. I dont want to lose my warranty so id like to know if i can go back if necessary.
that's all thanks
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you can't for now.. you wil trip KNOX counter first time you root. still depending which country you are in you shouldn't loose your warranty, just flash full stock and CSC from sammobile before returning it..

Best ROM - I believe prohibited to talk here. By the way not much ROM you can try out also.
The security is KNOX, it get trip once root and permanent, i believe no solution as since last year Note 3 till now still same no solution.
Want root then sacrifice for Knox now in all new and future Samsung phone.

Ok, thanks guys, but any advice for a Good ROM to start with ? (pre rooted with recovery and all ?)

predatorftp said:
Ok, thanks guys, but any advice for a Good ROM to start with ? (pre rooted with recovery and all ?)
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You will have to flash recovery with odin first whichever you pick and they are all prerooted. Can't say which is best but echoe rom is probably the most popular but it was also the first released. There's really not much to choose between any of the 910f roms and you won't be disappointed with any

Andrewtst said:
Best ROM - I believe prohibited to talk here..
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Not any more, mods now allow it