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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846
Just ordered an Amazon Fire TV, i have 2 Madcatz Mojo and a Ouya 16GB so look for a review comparing all 3 once it arrives on Friday. Close to the same hardware as the mojo but half the price... except its 8GB instead of 16GB for storage. Ouch!! I really hope mojo gets 4.4 and the ouya store before amazon tv gets rooted (its running android) else i'll be jumping ship.
Was just annouced. I just purchased 1 for testing.
Amazon Fire TV:
SOC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $100
Ouya:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
Price: $100
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-3-(T33)
Madcatz Mojo:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $200
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 4
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
Interesting!
I'm 99.99% sure it's their flavor of android.
I like the tegra zone, just knowing anything there will work with no problems.. I'm sure they'll have something similar.
It blows the Ouya's 2012 hardware out of the water!
MOJO is still the best microconsole
T4, USB3, 16GB, BT4 and CTRLR!
And I think the killer feature for MOJO is en route:
GameStream!
Letting me wire into my network at home, and playing all my PC games (that have controller support of course) on my TV... that's what I dream from this little box (alongside its HTPC capabilities which are flawless right now).
mejdam said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846
Just ordered an Amazon Fire TV, i have 2 Madcatz Mojo and a Ouya 16GB so look for a review comparing all 3 once it arrives on Friday. Close to the same hardware as the mojo but half the price... except its 8GB instead of 16GB for storage. Ouch!! I really hope mojo gets 4.4 and the ouya store before amazon tv gets rooted (its running android) else i'll be jumping ship.
Was just annouced. I just purchased 1 for testing.
Amazon Fire TV:
SOC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $100
Ouya:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
Price: $100
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-3-(T33)
Madcatz Mojo:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $200
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 4
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
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The SoC in the Amazon Fire is basically a S600. The Tegra 4 is more powerful. If the Amazon Fire was an S800 it could have been more powerful but that's not the case. Also, don't forget to factor in the controlker which brings the Fire price up to 140 vs. 200 for the MOJO. The the better gaming/Android solution in this case is the MOJO in my opinion especially since it has Play Store capability and rooting to enable greater functionality is easy. Especially if you consider that you can easily install the amazon app store on the MOJO but there's no guarantee that the Play Store will ever come to the Amazon Fire (unofficially obviously). If you're more concerned with a streaming solution the Fire is a better option because of all the supported services. It also most likely has better multimedia support. On the other hand from what I read it doesn't have keyboard support at the moment.
So for gaming if you pay for the MOJO it's 60 dollars more and you get twice the storage, an "extra" USB port (if they ever update the OS to free it up) and somewhat more powerful hardware (the GPU is sometimes close two twice as pwerful, other times much less but still more powerful). And I know that on the HTC One Anomaly 2 drops frames which I'm guessing that on the MOJO it happens less or maybe not at all.
If a multimedia player is your priority the Fire is 100 dollars less (sans controller) has better audio codec support AND optical out (which is very important for some).
I think the Fire will be a better consumer experience but the MOJO will provide a better device for gamers and users (not necessarily the "power" ones) willing to put some effort into it (but unless MOJO puts more effort into the software it will never be a hassle free experience/solution).
For the MOJO T40S GPU performance benchmarks compared to the Adreno 320 in the S600 you can check out the Tegra note review on anandtech and compare with the google nexus 7 (2013) with its qualcomm processor. www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review
solsearch said:
...........Also, don't forget to factor in the controlker which brings the Fire price up to 140 vs. 200 for the MOJO. The the better gaming/Android solution in this case is the MOJO in my opinion especially since it has Play Store capability and rooting to enable greater functionality is easy. Especially if you consider that you can easily install the amazon app store on the MOJO but there's no guarantee that the Play Store will ever come to the Amazon Fire (unofficially obviously). If you're more concerned with a streaming solution the Fire is a better option because of all the supported services. It also most likely has better multimedia support. On the other hand from what I read it doesn't have keyboard support at the moment......
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1) the amazon fire tv also comes with a standard remote that just isnt an option officially on the Mojo, maybe a Mele f10 ($20).
2) Even though Mojo has been "open" there really hasnt been much development. With the numbers that the fire tv is going to sell there will be more development once they achieve root. Koush has even gone on record and bought one.
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
AmigaWolf said:
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
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dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
AmigaWolf said:
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
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Your MOJO can run at the same speed!
Just Overclock it a little bit, stand it horizontally.
Or you can overclock it a lot (2Ghz+) and put an USB fan underneath it, to blowing the hot air up.
PS: I haven't done any of this and don't recommend it... maybe in 2 years when the MOJO struggles to keep up
@mejdam
True, hacking community is small, but it's there
It's great that there's more 'microconsoles' more choice :good:
Especially from bigger players.
mejdam said:
dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
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What are you talking about?
You were talking about Ouya and Amazon Fire TV and the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. speed and specs differences, and i ask why the Nvidia Shield is
faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. nothing more.
Get off your high horse please, will you.
Madcatz makes official Amazon Fire TV's controller?
WOW madcat have their 'claws' well into microconsoles!
MOJO, Ouya store and now Amazon's Fire TV's official controller?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-02/amazons-fire-tv-piles-into-the-living-room
Owners can play games with either the remote control or Amazon’s Kindle Fire tablet. For customers who prefer a more traditional video-game experience, Amazon said it would separately sell a traditional game controller, manufactured by the San Diego-based Mad Catz Interactive (MCZ), for $40. “Millions of people have game consoles, of course, and they love them,” says Pete Larsen, an Amazon vice president. “Many, many millions more don’t have consoles, and they don’t have them because they can’t afford them or they don’t want to pay for them. They would love to play games on TV.”
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Looking at it, it does look a bit like the CTRLR (no switch mouse/PC modes), but with all the buttons/triggers/sticks and includes a microphone for voice search. Interesting angular body design too.
I recognise that Dpad anywhere!
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/02/amazon-fire-tv-game-controller/
"AA batteries"
"Intelligent power management with auto-sleep."
Getting good reviews too:
http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-53-000...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
@Mad Catz Nate, is it MOJO compatible? is it BT4?
mejdam said:
dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
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The Shield being the better overall device hijacks it by default
Faster
Better controller, plus the option of using what you want
Built in very good speakers
Oh, and it is portable with great battery life
For $200 getting both a home console and portable device.
Now THAT is hijacking
rushless said:
The Shield being the better overall device hijacks it by default
Faster
Better controller, plus the option of using what you want
Built in very good speakers
Oh, and it is portable with great battery life
For $200 getting both a home console and portable device.
Now THAT is hijacking
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Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
I've been very pleased with my MOJO and enjoy all of it's capabilities thoroughly. MOJO is a better gaming console than the Fire and rooting it will not void any warranties. I never considered buying the Fire and bought the MOJO a week before it came out. As for the Shield, I looked into it a bit, but it didn't fit my needs. I needed a dedicated console for media, android gaming and emulation. This is where the MOJO fills all my needs. I have a tablet if I want a portable gaming device and the Shield would require another controller if plugged into the television. Hooking up and unhooking all the time wouldn't be all that desirable for my wall mounted television. The MOJO fits snuggly behind it out of view. We could go on and on about which device one thinks is better than another, but in the end I think it really depends on what you want to use your device for, and for me, the MOJO fills my needs.
gwaldo said:
Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
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Sorry to say but the NVIDIA Shield is MUCH more popular then this (M.O.J.O.) device, just look at NewEgg.com and Amazone.com.
The NVIDIA Shield has a special made JoyPad Keymapper so that almost all the games works on it, the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. does not, so only a few
games work good, you have to use third party software to have JoyPad keymapping on the M.O.J.O., and they do not work as good as your own
keymapper software (App).
The NVIDIA Shield has Android 4.4 Kitkat, the M.O.J.O. does not have that, and there is still no news when we are getting it.
The NVIDIA Shield has a fan so he wil not get hot (or overheat) the M.O.J.O. does not have a fan and can get very hot, and can freeze every time, more
people has this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712067
On the NVIDIA Shield you can stream games from cloud (GRID CLOUD GAMING) is not on the M.O.J.O.
And i can go on and on, so he backed up the right horse.
gwaldo said:
Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
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Actually, on top of AmigaWolf's points, Shield has a console mode to behave exactly like a console
1 Put in console mode
2 Plug up HDMI
3 Choose to use the Shield controller or the bluetooth controller of your choice. Mouse and keyboard too.
You do not even need to use console mode unless you want to use another controller.
Shield seems no contest compared to any current micro console due to the huge option of also being portable with great battery life. Also games that need some touch function can be mapped
to use the controllers with Shield. Apps like DrasticDS and other touch centric apps can be easily mapped, or just use the built in touch function with the display.
This horse won before the race started Very good $200 bet.
If a dedicated portable gaming devices is so great, why amazon/google/etc/etc not do one?
I think the market for dedicated portable gaming devices is becoming smaller thanks to mobiles/tablets.
They do what the shield does and better because they don't lock you in to the hardware, ie your 5inch screen on a T4.
Like I said the MOJO has a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet (ie what shield does with better soc's).
@AmigaWolf your the only one on here TMK that had overheating issue.
NVIDIA has vast more experience working with android, MC doesn't.. so the kitkat/mapper, etc, etc delays is to be expected.
The shield is just a portable (with TV out) but not a micro-console.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shield 2 (K1) is not a hand-held portable but.... a micro-console!!!! yes like the MOJO, OUYA, FIRE etc, etc. lol
Edit: and bundled/optional with a MC controller like TV Fire
gwaldo said:
If a dedicated portable gaming devices is so great, why amazon/google/etc/etc not do one?
I think the market for dedicated portable gaming devices is becoming smaller thanks to mobiles/tablets.
They do what the shield does and better because they don't lock you in to the hardware, ie your 5inch screen on a T4.
Like I said the MOJO has a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet (ie what shield does with better soc's).
@AmigaWolf your the only one on here TMK that had overheating issue.
NVIDIA has vast more experience working with android, MC doesn't.. so the kitkat/mapper, etc, etc delays is to be expected.
The shield is just a portable (with TV out) but not a micro-console.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shield 2 (K1) is not a hand-held portable but.... a micro-console!!!! yes like the MOJO, OUYA, FIRE etc, etc. lol
Edit: and bundled/optional with a MC controller like TV Fire
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Sorry to say but i can buy a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet, like the Moga controllers, and
many more.
I am the only one which had overheating issue? have you seen my post, 3 other people have it on MY post, but i don't care, i gone go with a different
Android TV BOX (they payed back the money that the M.O.J.O. cost), and i think i gone go with the Android TV BOX that have a Rockchip RK3288, and
that chipset is gone have a ARM Cortex-A17 2.0GHz processor and Mali T628 GPU and it has H.265/HEVC support for 4K2K videos, and HDMI 2.0 for 4K
@ 60 fps video output, and Gigabit Ethernet.
But this (M.O.J.O.) would be a great Android TV BOX if it had also a remote controller, and a ON and OFF button, and Read and Write support for NTFS
formatted Hard drives, and XBMC preinstalled like the Tronsmart Vega S89, that has Dolby Digital (AC3) 5.1 and DTS 5.1 and DTS-HD HRA 5.1 and
DTS-HD MA 5.1 HDMI passthrough.
And of cores a control mapper like the NVIDIA SHIELD, with the NVIDIA SHIELD it automatically downloads the mapped controls for that particular game.
Now it is just a Half-baked Android TV BOX, and you have to do to much to get everything working, and a lot of Apps won't work because you first have to
Root him, and thats to hard to do for the normal people that just don't know how all that work, they just want to buy a machine that has everything already,
now it's to much work, and thats also one of the biggest reason most people won't buy this Android TV BOX.
If that all was made correct the first time, this Android TV BOX would be a great BOX.
Mad Catz could have learned so much from NVIDIA Shield if they just looked and waited how they have done it.
The Shield is not even in the same category. You are talking about a portable handheld with a screen, batteries that are not replacable (or easily replacable) and it is not a set top box. Did you buy the Shield yet by the way? I hope so. This way you can migrate to the Shield forums and whine about the issues with that device
Oh no, I see you went with a Rockchip device instead. I see why you are so upset now.....I feel for you. That chipset sucks. You are probably able to do one third of what you can do with a Tegra device. You are not relying on that thing on a daily basis, are you? Just don't push it that hard and you might be able to use it to play some MP3 files.
zektor said:
The Shield is not even in the same category. You are talking about a portable handheld with a screen, batteries that are not replacable (or easily replacable) and it is not a set top box. Did you buy the Shield yet by the way? I hope so. This way you can migrate to the Shield forums and whine about the issues with that device
Oh no, I see you went with a Rockchip device instead. I see why you are so upset now.....I feel for you. That chipset sucks. You are probably able to do one third of what you can do with a Tegra device. You are not relying on that thing on a daily basis, are you? Just don't push it that hard and you might be able to use it to play some MP3 files.
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I know it's hard to hear the truth, i feel for you i really do.
Thank you very much for your kind words:silly:
OP can you test the amazon remote that comes with the fire TV on the mojo and ouya? I'm looking to get either the mojo or ouya after sending my fire TV back but would like to know if the simplified remote will work with either one. I wouldn't want to use the controller for media playback also to keep it simple for the kids to use.
The Xiaomi Mi Pad is a plastic iPad mini for Android lovers
So good news for you guys, then maybe there gone be Android TV BOXES with NVIDIA Tegra K1 soon after that.
AmigaWolf said:
The Xiaomi Mi Pad is a plastic iPad mini for Android lovers
So good news for you guys, then maybe there gone be Android TV BOXES with NVIDIA Tegra K1 soon after that.
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Nice one!
K1 tablet + CTRLR = better then sheild :good:
gwaldo said:
Nice one!
K1 tablet + CTRLR = better then sheild :good:
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Then if i was you i go with a K1 tablet + MOGA Pro Controller.
Expansys
Clove
Amazon
Because the MOGA Pro Controller has very good JoyPad support in Games, more then M.O.J.O.
MOGA Universal Driver, Provides full functionality for the PowerA MOGA™ Pocket and MOGA™ Pro controllers.
MOGA Pivot, The MOGA Pivot™ app pairs your MOGA™ controller to your Android smartphone or tablet, links to titles from our growing library of
150+ MOGA-enhanced games, and detects the MOGA-enhanced games you already have installed.
If only Mad Catz sold there M.O.J.O. without JoyPad.
AmigaWolf said:
If only Mad Catz sold there M.O.J.O. without JoyPad.
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They supported google's standard.
MOGA uses(used?) their own library for controller support, CTRLR uses google's standard controller support.
I expect more devs now to drop 3rd part controller support and only support google's standard.
Is MOGA BT4? I don't think it is.
MOGA doesn't support PC/Mouse mode.. which I use as a wireless mouse on my laptop sometimes..
gwaldo said:
They supported google's standard.
MOGA uses(used?) their own library for controller support, CTRLR uses google's standard controller support.
I expect more devs now to drop 3rd part controller support and only support google's standard.
Is MOGA BT4? I don't think it is.
MOGA doesn't support PC/Mouse mode.. which I use as a wireless mouse on my laptop sometimes..
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And that is good because that means you can use allot more games, then only the google's standard controller support, whats the MOGA Pro
Controller also can use, without problems.
If you need Bluetooth 4, it's only handy because it uses less electricity, and you can simply use the tough screen to start Apps on a Tablet, or use a
cheap mouse so thats also no problem, when i used the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. i only used my air mouse, worked allot better for me then holding a
JoyPad with two hands, i only used the JoyPad to play games.
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Please stop the arguing. If this device doesn't interest you, please post elsewhere.
Do not spam or troll this or any other thread.
Thank you.
I am very impressed by the hardware. The CPU and GPU leapfrog every other set top box on the market. But for me, Google really needs to invest more of its developers into fixing the software situation. That's the only way I will believe they aren't planning to abandon it like they have so many other ventures.
Gaming matters, but not in the way most people think IMO. No one will ever opt for this over a PS4. Trying to compete with dedicated consoles is a fools errand. Abandon that pipe dream and instead work on making this device the perfect companion device to our gaming consoles. Aim to make it so that anything you can do with a htpc, you can do with the nexus player. Let us install emulators on it. Let us get our PS4 or Ouya controllers working flawlessly on it. Let us stream games from our desktops steam library on it. Work with sony to get playstation tv and ps4 remote play on it.
Google, offer to code these apps and support for third party controllers (ps4 controller, xbox 360 controller, wii u pro controller and Ouya controller) yourself if that’s what it takes to get these controllers working flawlessly on the Nexus Player. We all have ps4, 360, wii u pro or Ouya controllers lying around. Don't make us buy more controllers, make drivers yourself if need be to let us use any of our existing Bluetooth controllers on the nexus player flawlessly.
This article to me is on point... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/7-things-googles-nexus-player-must-succeed/
Do those and you will turn me into active developer for your device.
So what about you. What does Google have to do to get you to develop for the nexus player?
Nothing really. I am tired of developing simple games for small screens and would love to jump to developing games for the big screen but without obstacles that big consoles put on indie devs. I will port at least tree of my games immediately I get hands on it (which might take time, Google doesn't ship to Poland). I am also developing a new platformer game with a mini console as a main target (and multiplayer like in Rayman Legends) in mind.
Jon Stewart said:
I am very impressed by the hardware. The CPU and GPU leapfrog every other set top box on the market. But for me, Google really needs to invest more of its developers into fixing the software situation. That's the only way I will believe they aren't planning to abandon it like they have so many other ventures.
Gaming matters, but not in the way most people think IMO. No one will ever opt for this over a PS4. Trying to compete with dedicated consoles is a fools errand. Abandon that pipe dream and instead work on making this device the perfect companion device to our gaming consoles. Aim to make it so that anything you can do with a htpc, you can do with the nexus player. Let us install emulators on it. Let us get our PS4 or Ouya controllers working flawlessly on it. Let us stream games from our desktops steam library on it. Work with sony to get playstation tv and ps4 remote play on it.
Google, offer to code these apps and support for third party controllers (ps4 controller, xbox 360 controller, wii u pro controller and Ouya controller) yourself if that’s what it takes to get these controllers working flawlessly on the Nexus Player. We all have ps4, 360, wii u pro or Ouya controllers lying around. Don't make us buy more controllers, make drivers yourself if need be to let us use any of our existing Bluetooth controllers on the nexus player flawlessly.
This article to me is on point... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/7-things-googles-nexus-player-must-succeed/
Do those and you will turn me into active developer for your device.
So what about you. What does Google have to do to get you to develop for the nexus player?
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Totaly agree, some people dont like the PS controlls but someone likes XBOX controlls people should just get to select what controlls them want to use to the device.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
I, Like most of you are probably watchign coverage of CES 2015 and have stumbled across a new Android Powered Device called the Razer Forege TV that sounds very simliar to what the Madcatz Promised with the Mojo. Unlike what the Mojo was i strongely think the Forge TV will deliver.
$99 for the Device
$80 for the Controller
$150 for Device and Controller
$40 for Software to Run Computer games on Forge TV
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).
totally agree
mejdam said:
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
I, Like most of you are probably watchign coverage of CES 2015 and have stumbled across a new Android Powered Device called the Razer Forege TV that sounds very simliar to what the Madcatz Promised with the Mojo. Unlike what the Mojo was i strongely think the Forge TV will deliver.
$99 for the Device
$80 for the Controller
$150 for Device and Controller
$40 for Software to Run Computer games on Forge TV
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).
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totally agree with you man , i will buy this item later maybe later this year :good:
interesting, why get that if you have a mojo (edit you can install lollypop now), it's not a step up soc wise... just get a shield tablet!
The controllers look very inspired by CTRLR, ie the phone clip.
Nothing like MC's latest controller!
http://store.madcatz.com/Mad-Catz-L...oller-for-Android-Smartphones-Tablets-PC.html
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interesting, why get that if you have a mojo (edit you can install lollypop now), it's not a step up soc wise... just get a shield tablet!
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lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
kgersen said:
lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
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I have not been able to work on it as I am busy with school. I believe in the next android release 5.0.3 we will see more android tv devices and I will be able to properly get the Google apps since the adt-1 is outdated I need an arm device with android tv and the nexus player is x86. With the razer being released I can get a dump of it and pull the apps I need. The only thing that didn't work for me was the playstore after it updated. Cast receiver does work I may boot it up today and mess with it since I have the adt-1 too.
If we could get something running similar to this on the mojo I'd be a happy happy boy... That being said, with the current custom ROM it's basically all I need bar a few minor tweaks anyways
kgersen said:
lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
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im a bit confused, where does one get a working android cast apk that works with the mojo?
mejdam said:
im a bit confused, where does one get a working android cast apk that works with the mojo?
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If you mean a cast receiver app so the mojo can act as a chromecast , afaik you can't.
The official app for this is called 'Google Cast Receiver' it's available on the Play Store here but it's not installed on the mojo.
The source code was release by Google too here: https://code.google.com/p/android-cast-mirrored-source/
Some people tried and managed to get the app working here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/app-cast-receiver-app-android-t2900726. i tried the 'signed' version on the mojo, it's not working. I then tried the system-install version, the process is running and the mojo is seen as google cast device...but when casting it only displays a big red X (or a version mismatch error for Netflix). According to the topic, this app uses complex DRM security to protect some contents (Netflix for instance) and without the proper certificates (and so official hardware) it doesn't work anymore.
This should be awesome if they do it right? I am kinda bummed its Quailcomm and not NVidia surprised coming from a gaming company they would choose a processor that isn't known for its gaming ability?
Also there is Snail Games OBox coming which is NVidia . Can be upgraded anytime by changing module!
Forge TV
The Razor Forge TV is nothing special. It's just like the MOJO just running android TV. 16gb onboard storage is a joke, and the system will still not be able to run every game. I see no interest in the Razor Forge TV, and I have a hard time understanding why it won the best of CES. It's seriously nothing to be so happy about. I just think this box is a total failure, and has brought nothing special to the living room.
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The Razor Forge TV is nothing special. It's just like the MOJO just running android TV. 16gb onboard storage is a joke, and the system will still not be able to run every game. I see no interest in the Razor Forge TV, and I have a hard time understanding why it won the best of CES. It's seriously nothing to be so happy about. I just think this box is a total failure, and has brought nothing special to the living room.
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It's because it's the first android TV box officially announced. The mojo in my opinion is better. Two USB ports micro sdcard and we also have Android TV port near fully functional. The setback for me is Google has yet to support external storage devices in android TV.
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Unjustified Dev said:
It's because it's the first android TV box officially announced. The mojo in my opinion is better. Two USB ports micro sdcard and we also have Android TV port near fully functional. The setback for me is Google has yet to support external storage devices in android TV.
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The mojo was $250 with a controller (and a mandatory controller so if you already have BT controllers it was a waste).
ForgeTV will be $150 with a controller (optional controller so only $100 if you already have BT controllers).
The SN 805 beats the Tegra 4 everywhere: http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582
Same RAM and internal storage.
One the 2 USB ports of the Mojo is for the controller dongle. So practically 1 usb port each.
ForgeTV ethernet port is 1Gbps, Mojo port is 100Mbps.
16Go is enough because you can have as many as you want of external storage with an USB OTG storage (sd/stick,sdd, hd,etc).
According to the a XDA Nexus Player forum topic that external storage can also be used for apps (using some mounting apps).
I fail to see where the mojo is better. really. even more that Mad Catz practically abandoned it.
and so far "Android TV port near fully functional" is a one man job (you) and not guaranteed.
kgersen said:
The mojo was $250 with a controller (and a mandatory controller so if you already have BT controllers it was a waste).
ForgeTV will be $150 with a controller (optional controller so only $100 if you already have BT controllers).
The SN 805 beats the Tegra 4 everywhere: http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582
Same RAM and internal storage.
One the 2 USB ports of the Mojo is for the controller dongle. So practically 1 usb port each.
ForgeTV ethernet port is 1Gbps, Mojo port is 100Mbps.
16Go is enough because you can have as many as you want of external storage with an USB OTG storage (sd/stick,sdd, hd,etc).
According to the a XDA Nexus Player forum topic that external storage can also be used for apps (using some mounting apps).
I fail to see where the mojo is better. really. even more that Mad Catz practically abandoned it.
and so far "Android TV port near fully functional" is a one man job (you) and not guaranteed.
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We will just have to wait and see about that. Have a little surprise tomorrow.
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You big tease lol
Having been at CES and having got hands on time on the Forge TV here is my take. I think that Razer should have added a second USB port and SD storage. In my opinion these 2 things will be a disadvantage. They did, however, bring some welcome improvements over the MOJO in the full Gigabit Ethernet and the entire UI. There is no doubt that the Forge TV is much more a consumer friendly product. However, from what I could tell from talking to folks at CES this is not going to be able to be easily rooted nor allow custom backup options. I could be wrong and just talked to the wrong folks (this was my first CES). The 2 areas that I thought the Forge really out did the MOJO was in it's ability to Stream almost any game from almost any PC (not just those running NVidea) to the forge. I tried a couple of high end games and they ran flawlessly. This will be huge because you will no longer need to really on 3rd party apps and subscription services such as OnLive to do this.
I was not impressed with the Serval. To me it was just another controller and at an $80 price point found it to be extremely over priced. I also have come to truly appreciate the media buttons on the CONTRLr and find the lack of them on the Serval to be disappointing. This is after all going to function as a remote as well as a controller.
The Turret was just the opposite. I was blown away by it. This is the first laptop keyboard I have used that feels good. It really feels and responds like a gaming keyboard. The mouse having a low level of magnetism so it stays where it is when you let go is fantastic. Only downside I had is that I have large hands and the mouse was on the small side. Along those same lines though, the key spacing was just enough that I did not feel cramped when typing.
In the end will I be buying any of these? I will most definitely be purchasing the Turret. Most likely a couple of them. I will also most likely be picking up a Forge TV down the road as well. As for the Serval, unless Razer rethinks the price point or I can get it at a Black Friday level discount I will be passing on this. It just does not bring anything to the table that any other Bluetooth controller doesn't and at half the price or less.
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We will just have to wait and see about that. Have a little surprise tomorrow.
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Did I miss the surprise?
I'm keen to see what MINIX are about to release for their control pad. I'm getting pics in a few days as well as a test unit soon.
From what they've told me it is supposed to make touch games playable so I keep thinking of a PS4 controller type of thing
Sir Jaxxy said:
Did I miss the surprise?
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Follow the development forum.
gwaldo said:
Follow the development forum.
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Yeah I just got caught up over there.
Sir Jaxxy said:
The 2 areas that I thought the Forge really out did the MOJO was in it's ability to Stream almost any game from almost any PC (not just those running NVidea) to the forge. I tried a couple of high end games and they ran flawlessly. This will be huge because you will no longer need to really on 3rd party apps and subscription services such as OnLive to do this.
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According to Razer web site (http://www.razerzone.com/cortex/stream), the streaming feature isn't specific to the Forge and will work on any Android 5.0 device.
The end game for Razer with the Forge is more to sell the accessories (Serval and Turret) than the console itself. That is where the high margins are. Peripherals are still their core business after all.
I'm moving house now and have to buy a new TV so I want information about the TV.
I want to know if Smart TV can connect to Mobile Hotspot or not? Or do you have to have a router alone?
And Android TV after using it for a while will be really slow or sluggish?
Thanks for the information in advance. สล็อตขั้นต่ำ1บาท
Well to start with it's like hot tubs and jacuzzis.
All jacuzzis are hot tubs but not all hot tubs are jacuzzis.
Smart tv is the category, android tv is a brand.
Smart tvs include proprietary software TV's that include popular apps with no affiliation to Google play store, smart TVs also include rokus which aren't android at all.
There were smart TVs with apps and stuff before android tv was a thing. But in general most smart TVs get slow over time simply because of the crappy hardware they come with. When manufacturers make smart TVs they focus on the TV and the smart part is usually an afterthought where they cut corners. If you want a truly premium experience for a smart tv you're better off getting a not smart tv and buying a box with the hardware you want and hook it up to the TV. Like an Nvidia shield or something similar. Or you could research an Android tv from XDA that has a firmware that you can replace or root and make customization to that makes it more efficient and less bloated. But other than that there is no real way to prevent slow downs over time
smart Tv can be Linux too - if u google samsung smart TV Linux u will find alot.
As where with Android TV -tells u straight forward its android based programs .