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Hi I just got a tablet but its not nexus 10 with 2gb of ram it only has 1gb of ram. I am contemplating on exchanging my tablet for a nexus 10 and I would like to ask you folks out there what on average is the available free ram on a nexus 10?
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I generally get 400-800 MB free of ram
Looking at free ram is a rather pointless measurement considering Android is Linux, and unix systems go by a "free ram is wasted ram" philosophy. With that said, mine is currently sitting at 541.5MB.
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kilopopo said:
Hi I just got a tablet but its not nexus 10 with 2gb of ram it only has 1gb of ram. I am contemplating on exchanging my tablet for a nexus 10 and I would like to ask you folks out there what on average is the available free ram on a nexus 10?
I think to average it out this post needs to have a lot of input.
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Thanks guys now i have an idea of how much memory is available on average.
I wonder if having 2gb is better than having 1gb of ram
Please search first, this question is near pointless and been asked a million times here, but to answer your question more ram never hurts but Android will hardly if ever run into low ram situations with 1gb of total system memory of more. Linux is different than a windows system and likes to use all available ram and when it needs ram for a task will kill tasks that have been idle for too long to free it up so task killers and monitoring free ram are time and battery eating tasks and you will be happier if you kick the habit ASAP
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the nexus 4 has around 1800mb ram and the nexus 10 should have a similar amount
maxorelad said:
the nexus 4 has around 1800mb ram and the nexus 10 should have a similar amount
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Probably not, larger resolution means it needs more dedicated to vram
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ECOTOX said:
Probably not, larger resolution means it needs more dedicated to vram
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It's kind of false advertising then. For example, should I sell my computer as having 10GB of RAM, even though only 8GB is actually usable as System RAM, with the other 2GB as Video RAM? Kind of silly imo... should of just put 2GB in the thing and then a separate dedicated amount for video.
But in any case, is there any actual hard proof this is what is happening? I wouldn't know where to begin to look really, but I'd love to see a section of the kernel code that actually dictates this, instead of just hearing "assumptions"
espionage724 said:
It's kind of false advertising then. For example, should I sell my computer as having 10GB of RAM, even though only 8GB is actually usable as System RAM, with the other 2GB as Video RAM? Kind of silly imo... should of just put 2GB in the thing and then a separate dedicated amount for video.
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When you buy any computer without a dedicated video card you loose ram to the video processing. When you buy a 10gb computer you only get maybe 9gb usable. Same with hard drives due to formatting limitation, it's not false advertising that's how much it has. Consumer ignorance is not the same as false advertising. The system needs some dedicated to video, audio, radio, and anything else that can't have variable sizing. they told you the right amount but you didn't know that just like the desktop you buy in a store the total available isn't the same as user available because the system needs some of it
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espionage724 said:
But in any case, is there any actual hard proof this is what is happening? I wouldn't know where to begin to look really, but I'd love to see a section of the kernel code that actually dictates this, instead of just hearing "assumptions"
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Yes there is a section of kernel code that dictates it go look at the source. If it's like the samsung vibrant it will be in the kernel config file
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yes we can
ECOTOX said:
When you buy any computer without a dedicated video card you loose ram to the video processing. When you buy a 10gb computer you only get maybe 9gb usable. Same with hard drives due to formatting limitation, it's not false advertising that's how much it has. Consumer ignorance is not the same as false advertising. The system needs some dedicated to video, audio, radio, and anything else that can't have variable sizing. they told you the right amount but you didn't know that just like the desktop you buy in a store the total available isn't the same as user available because the system needs some of it
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I suppose this does make sense; but even with the computers I owned that had integrated graphics, they had some kind of onboard memory attached to them. I could choose to alter how much additional VRAM I needed from system RAM, but didn't have to.
As for my Desktop, out of the 8GB installed in my system, only 1MB (according to Windows anyway) is unusable as "Hardware Dedicated".
Regardless, every other Android device I've seen has a specified amount of RAM it comes with on the box, and has "approximately" the same amount shown as usable in the OS itself. The Nexus 10 says 2GB, with only 1.6GB usable, which isn't nearly "as approximate" imo.
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I suppose this does make sense; but even with the computers I owned that had integrated graphics, they had some kind of onboard memory attached to them. I could choose to alter how much additional VRAM I needed from system RAM, but didn't have to.
As for my Desktop, out of the 8GB installed in my system, only 1MB (according to Windows anyway) is unusable as "Hardware Dedicated".
Regardless, every other Android device I've seen has a specified amount of RAM it comes with on the box, and has "approximately" the same amount shown as usable in the OS itself. The Nexus 10 says 2GB, with only 1.6GB usable, which isn't nearly "as approximate" imo.
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i can say with 100% certainty that any computer you have owned without a dedicated GPU that has been made within the past 5-6 yrs has at least 100-200mb dedicated to vram. If it even supports 8gb it is gernerally around 512mb that is dedicated as it probably is within 3-4yrs old and probably has an AMD radeon HD gpu or intel HD GPU which use 256mb at minumum. The only way you would have only 1mb taken is if you have a dedicated GPU or it is reading it wrong. I've worked with computer for over a decade and have had to explain this upwards of 100 times I can also say that every single android device with more than 256mb of ram has at LEAST 100-300mb of its ram dedicated to the GPU, the cell/wifi radio, hardware video decoder, camera, and anything else it needs. Samsung vibrant has about 200mb for those dedicated from the 512mb, galaxy nexus has about 300mb dedicated out of 1gb, hp touchpad about the same. Larger the resolution the more you need so 400mb to the system isnt very odd. Id say min 256mb for the resolution on the N10 for video, then probly 100-128mb for the hardware video decoder and 50mb or so for camera and for wifi radio. that totals to approximately 400mb depending on the exact amounts because i dont know them for the n10. If you really want to you can go into the kernel config and change the amounts, but you will break hd playback, picture taking,etc. Which is what would happen if i configured the amounts too low in my vibrant kernels.
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ps, why must auto correct fail me sometimes? ^ x3
and to add to that, look at the amount of user available storage. Do you have the entire 16 or 32gb you bought? no, you will loose about 1-2gb from formating then another 1-2gb for the system and app storage
Hello,
I just bought a nexus 10 and I have a question about the RAM amount. It's supposed to have 2GB of RAM but in my device it show only 1.23GB....
Is it normal? In my nexus 4 it shows 1.83GB.
Thanks and best regards.
Forget it. I just read that 800MB from the RAM are reserved for the GPU. Like a ****ing laptop...
Uhh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40030815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146679
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008146
Edit: took me too long haha
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Uhh...
Edit: took me too long haha
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Thank you very much for your time.
2 gb = big lie from manufactures
400 mb = true
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samwheat said:
2 gb = big lie from manufactures
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Not really. They are telling the truth that there is 2GB of RAM installed. Just hate that almost half of it isn't usable by the intended purpose...
Should of just thrown 2.8GB of RAM on the board and gave 800MB directly to the GPU.
It isnt just the Nexus 10 that has this shared memory, most phones and tablets do. There are specific chipsets that have their own dedicated vram, like Tegra 3. Having dedicated vram chips has to do with how the memory controller is designed in the chipset architecture.
Anybody with some info about this screenshot?
32bit windows can max run 3gb ram, do andoid work the same way?
I see note 4 n910u have a 4gb ram module inside..
Never seen info about this, or never see any info about 3 or 4gb ram.
Greets from Holland.
No idea bout the ram module, but a 32bit OS can support 4GB!! The reality is that not all of that RAM is made available to the OS all the time as the system reserves portions
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escobar035 said:
Anybody with some info about this screenshot?
32bit windows can max run 3gb ram, do andoid work the same way?
I see note 4 n910u have a 4gb ram module inside..
Never seen info about this, or never see any info about 3 or 4gb ram.
Greets from Holland.
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No it doesn't mean that.
Its telling you that the type of memory module being use is a 4 Gigabit, notice the lower case b, b = bit , upper case B = Byte.
Samsung is using 6x4Gigabit modules to give us 3GigaBytes of RAM. There is 8 Bits to a Byte.
And the usable amount is whats left over after they give a portion of it to the GPU for video processing.
Did you see the line "detection needs to be improved" in the bottom?
marleyb said:
No idea bout the ram module, but a 32bit OS can support 4GB!! The reality is that not all of that RAM is made available to the OS all the time as the system reserves portions
regards
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A 32bit os can only address 3.75ish GB of RAM which most just round up to 4GB anyway
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Thanx
Thanx for clearing this up!!
I was thinking samsung make a mistake with my note haha!
Put a extra free 1gb..
Greets
dbzgod said:
No it doesn't mean that.
Its telling you that the type of memory module being use is a 4 Gigabit, notice the lower case b, b = bit , upper case B = Byte.
Samsung is using 6x4Gigabit modules to give us 3GigaBytes of RAM. There is 8 Bits to a Byte.
And the usable amount is whats left over after they give a portion of it to the GPU for video processing.
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But it says usable ram 2833Mb.
Is it like a typo?
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But it says usable ram 2833Mb.
Is it like a typo?
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Hi,
no, that's because some RAM is used by system.
I just noticed that on my 6P the total ram the os reporting is 2.6Gb. Is that normal? I can't remember but I am pretty sure on my nexus 6 was more. Anyone else noticed this?
Normal.
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This can't be true... Is this normal?
aygul12345 said:
This can't be true... Is this normal?
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Is this your first time buying a tech gadget? Some RAM is always saved for internal usage.
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anglerstock said:
Is this your first time buying a tech gadget? Some RAM is always saved for internal usage.
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No, but is very small amount over... In the picture you see 700mb free.. Isnt that low?
It's like the base 640k from old days, or even better, that space between 640k and 1meg that was mostly reserved and a pain to use.
yeah my operating ram is low as well its always around 700 mb o soI dont see if why if they knew they were gonna use so much why not make it 4GB instead of 3?
Total: 2.6GB
Average used: 66%
Free 0.88GB
Thanks, I was wondering if it's just mine...
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I'm curious why phone, while not running much, reports RAM usage over 50%.
Is this normal or do I need to troubleshoot?
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The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
nrage23 said:
The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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OK that answers my question. Thanks for the link.
No problem. We all get used to Windows which works better with free ram.
nrage23 said:
The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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Dindt know that, thanks for the link
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No problem. We all get used to Windows which works better with free ram.
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But in the G4 you have more Ram to use. Just like about 1GB. And here on the 6P less then 1GB
The stock Google bloat system & apps will use more memory. It always seems to improve free memory with custom roms and their optimization tweak's!
aygul12345 said:
But in the G4 you have more Ram to use. Just like about 1GB. And here on the 6P less then 1GB
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galaxys said:
The stock Google bloat system & apps will use more memory. It always seems to improve free memory with custom roms and their optimization tweak's!
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You are missing the point. You do not want free ram. In Linux based operating systems free memory is wasted memory. It optimizes the ram for the apps you use most frequently and helps them to load faster. The 6P has 3gb of ram.
Thank you sane people. I was getting tired of telling people this fact about Linux ram management.
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I know my nexus is sitting around 60% usage from just the OS / UI but my MotoX 2013 only used maybe 20-30%.
My moto also claimed 2GB RAM and it showed all 2GB, same with my Shield tablet, on any app that shows total RAM yet the nexus only shows 2.64GB.
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
The Nexus 10 is suppose to have "2GB" of ram, but my Nexus 10 only have "1099"
The Nexus 10 is suppose to have "2GB" of ram, but my Nexus 10 only have "1099"
what is problem?
android 5.1.1
Round it up and it's 2gb
Mine is also showing 1GB of Ram and its runs slow. Is it supposed to have 2?
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In later software releases, they decided to allocate more of the ram to the video. Search this forum for a more detailed answer if interested.
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if i recall correctly, about 900mb is reserved for the gpu.
veitograf said:
if i recall correctly, about 900mb is reserved for the gpu.
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I remember finding this out a few years ago and being pretty upset at the time. The tablet advertises 2GB of RAM, and yet about 1GB of it is only usable for the expected advertising purpose.
It's like me advertising my computer has 12GB of RAM, meanwhile, 4GB of that is dedicated to the GPU (which on it's own isn't really a problem, but it would make more sense to advertise 8GB)
Even then it would still be 12GB.
Let me get a little technical.
If you have an APU based PC, the GPU is on the same die as the processor. So when you use the GPU portion of the APU, it will use the RAM. How much? It depends on the load.
You can still use all of it though, so it isn't a problem. When you aren't using the GPU, all of your RAM is available.