Hi, back in 2011 I've bought the Galaxy S2 because I was just tired of -installing this, bricking there, rebooting here- stuff on my Motorola Defy, tears and blood came out off me till I finally could flash the device again and left it factory default, so I said to me "I'll just buy a device that just WORKS" and that's what I've got with my S2, there has been 4 long years and I think it is time for it to go, I'm just tired of it and I don't use it anymore.
There is a deal with a man that would change me it for an Xperia Play, I think it's a good deal, because at least I would use it to play the PS One games I played in my childhood. But now it comes again: -kernels, flashing, restoring, rebooting- I can feel the fear just from thinking about it, but I think it is necessary since the device lacks so much in power, I would crack it up to get an overall better experience and play Vice City on it decently, but if I do it, I will do it once, and for ever.
I would like to keep the closest to stock as it can be: good battery life, and everything just working as it should be, I'm not buying a broken device. What do I need to do to overclock it? Is it totally necessary to install the DoomKernel V14 in order to do it? I want to increase the RAM as well, from 512MB to 1GB.
Would it be to much to ask for an answer like this?:
I've used the Xperia Play to play a lot of games including Vice City, my device is running @1.9 GHz and it got 1GB of RAM, to do it you necessarily got to root your phone (link), install DoomKernel V14 2.3.4 Gingerbread (link), then do this to overclock it (link), and this to increase the RAM (link), mmm... as well there is a trick you can do it as well to increase the performance...
Something like that? And any other information about it that you find useful for a beginner user like me (like what to install in order to play games) would be greatly appreciated as well.
Sorry if I sound very demanding and/or uneducated, english is not my first language and I feel I still can not get totally understood in this language, I know it is to much to ask for, but if there is one big soul that knows it everything about this device, that got it all clear in his mind, and that would help this beginner I would love him for ever. Thank you everyone for the time and for this big community, cheers!
Hi, I try to answer your questions, but it's not so easy.
Xperia Play have never got Android 4. The last official release is Gingerbred 2.3.4. On your S2 you was used to on ISC or higher I think. ICS fo Xplay was released only like beta (you can still download it on Sony's webpage). You have three options:
Android 2.3 which was official and with full support - it means gamepad, touchpads and everything else is working. It gets you the best performance, official PSX emulator works (you can convert your own games with PSXperia - not all games run through this emulator - e.g. Tony Hawk's titles, NHL's etc. not), but many games is compiled to higher Android versions or even many games lost support for Gingerbread in time (Trial 3, Trials Frontier, Crossy Road, Gangstar Vegas etc.)
Android 4.0 which was released only in beta - it has gamepad and touchpad support, but not in all games (however there is only few games with this problem). Performance is significantly worse (480p kernel is not an option, it's must have), official PSX emulator doesn't works there. But with RAM Manager/Boost my Xperia, smart swap settings and overclocking you can play almost everything (there are some lags here and there, but it's playable).
Android 4.1 which is minimum Android version if you want to use more and more "modern" material version of apps and some aps and games generally (Tomb Rider Go, new Nova Launcher, new Solid Explorer etc.). It has almost no support for touchpads but even gamepad - even with touchpad activator. Modern Combat 4, FIFA 12 and long list of games in 4.1 have no touchpad or even gamepad support (in MC4 for example gamepad works, touchpads not, FIFA 12 completely without Xplay support). You can always use GameKeyboard and map the buttons, but it's not so comfortable and offten even so optimized like the original solution from developer (FIFA12) - however sometimes it's vice versa and touchpad implementation from developer is horrible (Splinter Cell Conviction).
Of course, there are some projects with 4.2, 4.4 even 5.0, but it's not for daily use and totaly not for gaming.
There are some good ROMs for all three version:
Android 2.3 Gingerbread:
1) Gin2Kittkat 3.3.0 - in my opinion it's the most powerful ROM for Xperia Play - in terms of options and theming so as in pure performance
2) AuroraPlay - in 2013 it was the number one in pefrormance, but nowadays G2KK is better and newer
3) NXT ROMs - I have used them in 2012/2013 and they were awesome. Second version is beautifull
Android 4.0 IceCream Sandwich - most of them are Sony based, for example NexPlay is Cyanogenmod based (I don't know if it has touchpad support, but I think not)
1) Xperia Play Z Final Edition - I'm using it right now and with some of my modifications (debloated, replaced apks, removed small aps, changed bootanimation etc.) it is the best ROM for this phone in terms of modern system/gaming support. It has touchpad support in all games I've tried (I think ironic is that MC4 or Asphalt 8 run better than Crossy Road or Puzzle Craft 2), you can run some other aplications and games you cannot on GB.
2) Ultimate HD - it lacs some features which Play Z ROM have, but it's nothing important (at least for me). Only auto brightness doesn't work for me.
3) Express ICS
4) Neo2Play - aromainstaller with options what would you like to install
Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean - all JB ROMs are based on Cyanogen mod cause official JB never comes to Xperia 2011 phones
1) Paranoid Android - best ROM for me if I have to choose JB. As the only one it has brightness slider in notification toggles area
2) Sonygenmod 10 - it looks like official Sony themed Android with ported Sony apps.
3) Slimbeam - it's fast and stable
4) JellyZeusbean - also Sony themed ROM
I think the best kernels are Lupus - for GB and JB. For ICS it's the same I think. But Lupus for ICS has small data partition, so rather use Lupus ICS/GB or Doom ICS (and Link2SD cause 600MB is still not enough). For GB there is also Extreme kernel, which has fantastic performance, but battery drain is crazy. If you want better performance choose 480p version which can offer more free RAM (even 30-50MB). I think there are better ways how to record videos than with Xperia Play. All of these kernels allow you to overclock, but remember - higher frequency meand shorter battery life. And for example my phone cannot go higher than 1,5GHz, on 1,6 it will restart itself. 1,4GHz is enough for everything, small performance is mainly cause weak GPU. Higher frequencies allow you max play some games in FPSe witch OpenGL on.
You cannot simply add or change RAM capacity. You can make swap partition on your SD card, download file with swap script, or you can simply use Swapper (it's not practical). This will free up some ROM, not add capacity. It's necessary for some games which need more RAM than you physicaly have (I remember Angry Birds Go was impossible to run without swap partition). Here is the topic. Best setting for swap is 20 (on all versions of Android) in my opinion. In ICS and JB you can try 40 or even 60, but my experience is long response time and worse performance at all.
Some other tips: delete facebook and Messenger - they are killing performance and response time. Use Facebook lite or web browser. Don't install any apps you don't need or you aren't using more than 1 per month. More apps means more Link2SD apps and they are slowing down the phone. On Gingerbread use Nemus Launcher (till 2012 not in GPlay) or Xperia T modded launcher (the fastest) if you don't need features which has Nemus. On ICS or JB you can use Xperia Z modded launcher, Nemus or Nova (I'm using it right now and it's very good, fluid and if you run some game, it goes off the RAM). On GB you can also flash Adreno Booster, in some games you achieve better performance, in orhers more stable FPS.
Thank you so much for reply!!!! I love you man!!!! I have figured out a lot of things by searching myself since nobody seem to reply to me, but you know a lot of things I didn't know obviously. I didn't know that Gin2Kittkat was better in performance than Auroraplay LE, it looks beautiful as well! So I'll definitely give it a try. And as you are using the Xperia Play Z Final Edition ROM, can you tell me if it runs good GTA Vice City? Because as far as I have seen, it only runs smooth on modded 2.3.7 GB ROMs as Auroraplay LE.
I'm sorry for the late answer. Yes, GTA and some other games are unplayable on ICS/JB. As I said, for gaming is GB best. However more and more often you have to look after older apps version (it means outside Google play) cause developer compiled the newer one only for 3/4.0+ (even games like Benji Bananas, Subway surfers, Jetpack Joyride). And even paid games and apps is loosing support for GB. I think it's very unfair from developer to do this when there is no option to download (at least) older version (Locus, Officesuit etc.). There are plenty of apps and games which were GB compatible and nowadays they require even JB 4.4 (OneNote for example).
Thank you for everything man!
im really impressed with cm12.1, you should try it before going to a very outdated 4.0.4 :/
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[*]Android 4.0 which was released only in beta - it has gamepad and touchpad support, but not in all games (however there is only few games with this problem). Performance is significantly worse (480p kernel is not an option, it's must have), official PSX emulator doesn't works there. But with RAM Manager/Boost my Xperia, smart swap settings and overclocking you can play almost everything (there are some lags here and there, but it's playable).
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Hello Miichaell,
Thanks a lot for this full explanation and guide to Xperia Play flash options.
For Android 4.0 ICS roms, when you say "Performance is significantly worse", how does it compare to stock GB in facts ? Slowdowns ? Freezes ?
I mostly play emulator from the 8bits / 16bits era, and also PSX games... Do they work well with a rom like "xperia play z final ultimate edition" ? I don't play heavy games like MC4, GTA Vice City, Nova, etc.
I know GB based roms will always be better for playing, but as I use my Xperia Play as my daily smartphone, the lack of compatible applications is now a real problem.
Thanks for your advices !
Hi and sorry for the late answer. As I said - in fact everything what you need is also available for GB too. Sometimes you have to search on google little longer for older version of your apps, but almost all apps was already there in GB era, so they were available for GB (Onenote for example). And for everything is some alternative which is GB compatible (or was). If you never used any faster phone, ICS is good to use as daily driver - if you dont install FB, Messenger, Whatsapp and generally not to many apps. For better app compatibility and some speedup you could try JB (only CM) or the newest MM, but gamepad doesnt work at all in MM. If you want at least a little fast phone even without playing games, stay on old but awesome working GB.
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Hi and sorry for the late answer. As I said - in fact everything what you need is also available for GB too. Sometimes you have to search on google little longer for older version of your apps, but almost all apps was already there in GB era, so they were available for GB (Onenote for example). And for everything is some alternative which is GB compatible (or was). If you never used any faster phone, ICS is good to use as daily driver - if you dont install FB, Messenger, Whatsapp and generally not to many apps. For better app compatibility and some speedup you could try JB (only CM) or the newest MM, but gamepad doesnt work at all in MM. If you want at least a little fast phone even without playing games, stay on old but awesome working GB.
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Hello Miichaell,
Thanks for your answer.
I finally decided to try it by myself, so I flashed ICS with Xperia Play Z Final edition, but it was definitely too slow for me.
So I went back to Gin2Kitkat... And I guess I'll stick with it til the end of life of my phone.
By the way, do you know a reliable website where I could find old versions of APK ? I am currently looking for GB version of FEEDLY and EVERNOTE...
Thanks !
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Hello Miichaell,
Thanks for your answer.
I finally decided to try it by myself, so I flashed ICS with Xperia Play Z Final edition, but it was definitely too slow for me.
So I went back to Gin2Kitkat... And I guess I'll stick with it til the end of life of my phone.
By the way, do you know a reliable website where I could find old versions of APK ? I am currently looking for GB version of FEEDLY and EVERNOTE...
Thanks !
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The fastest ICS ROM for the Xplay is Neo2Play V2.7 it is as fast as Gin2Kitkat but it has less free ram, may be you could give it a try.
Here is the link to Neo2Play Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2283653
If you decide to use Neo2Play I recommend you use doomkernel extracted from Xperia Play Z Final Edition, that is the best combination of Rom+Kernel I have found for the Play. Also overclocking all the way to 1.6 GHz helps a lot and for that Rom I never found an Issue by doing so. Actually I always kept 1.8 GHz max-400 min with no issues at all.
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We want to make a teamhacksung ics version with gaming mode. Just for the try.
Ice cream sandwich has great imporivements about rendering. But ram is crazy low for games. With gaming mode we will avoid this.
If you want to try an ics version of gamerzrom please vote here.
Yeah that would be totally amazing, I'm using OneCosmic's RC3.1 right now and I'm happy to play Grand Theft Auto III , without or just a little lag.. but an GamerzRom ICS would make it more powerfully!
I would love to see that.
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Yeah that would be totally amazing, I'm using OneCosmic's RC3.1 right now and I'm happy to play Grand Theft Auto III , without or just a little lag.. but an GamerzRom ICS would make it more powerfully!
I would love to see that.
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We work hard for the scripts. We need a huge process name and apk name list for it. It will be good in ICS.
Totally hell yeah! But I'd wait a bit longer (at least for build 15).
Hahaha I wish I had a girlfriend that would understand about this! Mine just complains when she sees me with my phone -.-''... burakgon you lucky bastard! XDDD
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Totally hell yeah! But I'd wait a bit longer (at least for build 15).
Hahaha I wish I had a girlfriend that would understand about this! Mine just complains when she sees me with my phone -.-''... burakgon you lucky bastard! XDDD
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My girlfriend is more clever than me. She doesn't have an android but we will buy a sgs2 her in a few days. She will be better than me on this job.
Thanks for votes! This is enough the see reaction! We will release it but not on v14. Thanks again!
Wouldn' t be a CM7.1 version better?
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Thanks for votes! This is enough the see reaction! We will release it but not on v14. Thanks again!
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Maybe a MIUI v4 version ? Good UI with Good Performances is better
Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Agree with this
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Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Totally agree.
Not yet ,, let ICS Finally version come out first
Also I think it's better to wait for ICS. For now let's focus on JVU...
ICS : too early, JVU would be better.
Hi Burakgon,
It is indeed to soon to try to work on ICS.
ICS versions are not fully working, not mature and not ready yet.
Your JVU work is very good, and it would be better to carry on JVU.
Anyway, your the one to decide.
Thanks you very much for all the great improvements on JVU, and the upcoming Version 3.
Cheers.
Just two things to consider, Burakgon.
First of all, the ICS roms are still not entirely stable so it might be a good idea to wait for maybe build 16 or above to be released.
Secondly, gaming on CM9 beta 14 is actually really smooth, albeit not as smooth as on your JVU gaming rom. For example, I can play shadowgun and gta without lags on beta 14. So, even though ICS has less free ram, it is somehow able to manage the ram well enough such that the games run fine. Nonetheless, it would be great to have an ICS gaming rom, as compared to gingerbread, since ICS has so many more features anyway.
an ICS gamerzrom would be great!!
(i'd prefered it based on onecosmic's ics but that's another story )
however, if going to ICS means less support for the GB version of your rom, i'd stick to GB...
i wonder what you guys talking about, useing th b14 with perkas mod since a week,
not a single force close or reboot, everything runs great would never switch back to samsung stock based roms
yes please, more ICS on I9000
As said by a few others, ICS is probable not the best way to go quite yet, give it a while to stabalise first.
no yet , its a good idee to create a gamezone ics , but ics have bugs , i think that are better for you to wait 1 month until its release a stable version of ics , with no bugs or with less bugs (sorry for my english if are mistakes)
So besides extra apps and features... would there be any changes performance wise.
Could i expect any optimizations for filesystem (tho ginger should be ext4 already), better multitasking / cpu and ram management. Or would ICS actually use more system resources.
So if i were not to upgrade cuz its the latest and to "go with the flow" .. .what real advantages would i have on u8800 with ICS over ginger.
And yes i know the release isnt perfect yet (but lets assume the bugs were fixed).
Or its just ...for the sake of having a new version..
The battery on ICS lasts for much more time that on GB. The performance looks nice, very fast, the wifi its faster than GB. And of course, the design of ICS its amazing!
Battery? on idle/low load or ... eg when gaming (high cpu load etc)?
But is the performance overall (gaming mainly - aint gonna notice much with most apps anyways).
Also hows the ICS rooting (the aurora one) - already rooted?
Any features for the gaming side (like better opengl etc).
ofc x5 sets hardware limits (unless even ginger doesn't unlock its full potential).
I say about battery when I stay many hours with wifi on surfing, downloading, etc etc..
I didnt tested with games...
I think I have my ICS rooted, but know you ask, i will confirm that LOL
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Also hows the ICS rooting (the aurora one) - already rooted?
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It's installed on top of rooted oficial 2.3.5 so yes, ofc it is rooted
Performance is considerably better than stock 2.3, about par with MIUI 2.3. Game performance is excellent, however beware that some games may not work because they're just not compatable with ICS. There are also apps not compatable with ICS, so if there's anything you desperately want to use with ICS, check the developer's info first.
If all bugs were fixed, it'd be AMAZING! Performance is good, everything works awesomely. My only problem is the random crashes/reboots, which is, as said, a bug, so if that was fixed I'd be happy
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It's installed on top of rooted oficial 2.3.5 so yes, ofc it is rooted
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I don't think it's exactly installed on top of 2.3.5. You need to do the official upgrade first to update the file system to ext4 (I think...)
I think you have to try it to see for your self.
I was afraid that changing to ics would make my phone not as good or fast as te official... but believe me, it's like I have a completely new phone.
It's much faster in every thing and the battery lasts much more that GB.
Wireless speed is faster but ping is higher.
Go for Aurora mod and you wont regret it.
With the clockworkmod it's very easy to change back to official 2.3.5 anyway.
Hi guys,
Well, I am stuck to my milestone 2 since there aren't any keyboard-slider phones in available in germany, that's really sad.
Also I am thinking about which ROM you use, since I don't know which one would be the best for me, so I started making a list.
(I don't like omg-winzip roms, so I just stated the main one)
CyanogenMod 7
Pros :
- almost stable
- works fast
Cons :
- there is no ALT-Lock
- it's going to be outdated
CyanogenMod 9
Pros:
- newest android version
- a lot of eyecandy, since ICS looks awesome
Cons:
- still not everything works
- ICS is heavier than GB, and cause of the missing HW-Acc, it's really laggy
Stock Rom
Pros:
- everything should work
- 720p recording
Cons:
- Bloated
- Really, really ****ing slow
- Froyo (unless you use a buggy GB on the Froyo kernel or SBF to GB)
So, what do you use?
I see the lack of a "perfect" rom for the Milestone 2
I use CM9 but i agree with you when you say that it's laggy but i really hope that it will be fixed in the next update.
And for me, most of the apps that i want works (except for Opera, Dolphin and those that need the HW accel).
I can't completely agree with your cons for CM9 and Stock:
CM9: It's blazingly fast, even without HW acc. That and video recording are the main two things that do not work. It might be heavier, but it sure as hell isn't laggy.
Stock: I don't know which stock GB you tried, but once again; even with the bloat is blazingly fast. Froyo was really slow indeed, but GB is fast as ****.
I think CM7, CM9 and Stock are all viable. It's just what you like best:
Everything working: Stock
Almost everything working and customization: CM7
Latest, with some lacking features: CM9
If you're looking for a "perfect" ROM, you probably should take a look at Argen2Stone or MS2Ginger. They're based on stock GB, with customizations.
You forgot MIUI...amazing ROM.
I installled a test version from the CM9, and for me a lot of things need a fix.
- camera itself;
- all apps from google doesn't open
I just moved to the stock version, for me it's much better since everything works.
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You may try all of the ROMs.
I had tried some ROMs from Gfan(from china) ,it's okay but there are many things that's just for Chinese people.(some apps ,features).
Also tried cm7(i7ovehope) which is my favorite one.It works stable and fast.
I found that i cannot downgrade ,after i flash stock GB I can't try cm9 ,miui...
Now I am using MS2Ginger 3.0(I delete some apps by myself to make it more smooth) and I am going to try Argen2Stone 3.
Dun think too much, just go ahead and find out which one is the best for you.
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You may try all of the ROMs.
I had tried some ROMs from Gfan(from china) ,it's okay but there are many things that's just for Chinese people.(some apps ,features).
Also tried cm7(i7ovehope) which is my favorite one.It works stable and fast.
I found that i cannot downgrade ,after i flash stock GB I can't try cm9 ,miui...
Now I am using MS2Ginger 3.0(I delete some apps by myself to make it more smooth) and I am going to try Argen2Stone 3.
Dun think too much, just go ahead and find out which one is the best for you.
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Actually, as long as you're not using Vivo (Brazil) or Personal (Argentina) ROMs, you can downgrade. Take a look in the Android Development area.
MS2 Hongkong rom
I need the original stock 2.2 rom for Hong Kong MS2 version. In SBF format, of course, because cwm can't start.
The filesonic link is broken on and-developers.com/sbf:milestone2
Thanks
CyanogenMod 9
Pros:
- newest android version
- a lot of eyecandy, since ICS looks awesome
- smooth and fast
- very stable
Cons:
- still not everything works << just HWA is not working. If you do not watch FullHD videos and do not use Flash, it will not bother you.. So then there are not any cons.
- ICS is heavier than GB, and cause of the missing HW-Acc, it's really laggy << Totally not true, it is smooth
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Pros:
- everything should work
- 720p recording
Cons:
- Bloated
- Really, really ****ing slow << To be honest - it is not true about stock GB.. Stock GB is actually pretty fast.
- Froyo (unless you use a buggy GB on the Froyo kernel or SBF to GB) << There is actually official stock GB, you know?
MIUI (not the ICS one)
Pros:
- long battery life
- nice, united design etc.
Cons:
- slow
- buggy
I see many perfect ROMs here - did you even tried them or you judge them without trying them?
CM7, CM9, stock GB, Argen2Stone, MIUI... all roms are nice and perfect if you do not need useless things like fullHD playback (who the hells needs to play HD videos on your tiny M2 screen) or 720p videos record (omg, what do you need to record? Buy camera if you rely on quality that hard)...
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> Well, I am stuck to my milestone 2 since there aren't any keyboard-slider phones in available in germany, that's really sad.
Are you kidding? What is sad about that? I bought M2 few months before and it was not cheap. I don't see why it is sad?! I would understood, if you stuck with Nokia 3310, but is THAT BAD for you? OMG what are you doing here then?
> (I don't like omg-winzip roms, so I just stated the main one)
Use search in the future, there is at least one another topic just like this (with pros and cons)...
.. thats my two cents.
I'd say that yesterday's update on sfc3001's CM9 Release made it pretty much perfect for me, with HWA the UI is buttersmooth, the battery use with Apex seems to be pretty smooth.
The Pros:
- Smooth UI.
- Volume Rocker now allows you to swap songs with the screen locked. (hold v+/-)
- Loads of stuff now works properly. (Touch Controls on MaxPayne Mobile is a good example)
- Less battery use.
- Easier to use UI, better developer tools (TCP/ip ADB, etc)
The Negatives:
- No MotoBLUR. (I'll probably get some angry PM's about this)
- Flash seems to act up with all the browsers I've tested.
- Took me 2 months to be brave enough to flash it. (Right in time to get the HWA update!)
- Took me 4 soft bricks in order to get this working.
- Opera Mobile doesn't work well. (Needs font fixes, and still won't work well after doing that)
JohnnyonFlame said:
I'd say that yesterday's update on sfc3001's CM9 Release made it pretty much perfect for me, with HWA the UI is buttersmooth, the battery use with Apex seems to be pretty smooth.
The Pros:
- Smooth UI.
- Volume Rocker now allows you to swap songs with the screen locked. (hold v+/-)
- Loads of stuff now works properly. (Touch Controls on MaxPayne Mobile is a good example)
- Less battery use.
- Easier to use UI, better developer tools (TCP/ip ADB, etc)
The Negatives:
- No MotoBLUR. (I'll probably get some angry PM's about this)
- Flash seems to act up with all the browsers I've tested.
- Took me 2 months to be brave enough to flash it. (Right in time to get the HWA update!)
- Took me 4 soft bricks in order to get this working.
- Opera Mobile doesn't work well. (Needs font fixes, and still won't work well after doing that)
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Yeah, the two latest version of sfc3001/Alexc804 (same dev, different pseudos, guess from different communities ) brought the ICS port close to fully functionnal, with HW acceleration (thx to dan**** the main dev on the Milestone, who got it working for all of us ), camera, 720p decoding/recording, panorama and so on.
It'll be probably working better and better from now on, specially with CM9 getting off alpha/beta, and going toward stable.
On your "cons" :
- MotoBlur not being there is probably the best possible news and the main reason to move to modded ui for pretty much everyone out there .... but if you like/want it back, check http: (slash slash)forum.xda-developers.com(slash)showthread.php?t=1577123, it's a "port" of Blur for ICS devices
- you're not the only one who took a ****load of time to make the jump to flashing. I know the partial lack of doc on the whole GB kernel thingy didn't help.
- Didn't brick anything, the first time it worked flawlessly... but yeah, since then, messing with wrong apps, making mistakes, i've bricked it quite some, but who cares, with the locked bootloader, one thing we can't do is permanently brick our phones, all we need if to find the right sbf to reflash (which was a pain during the first 2/3 months after MU was taken down )
- Once the font fix was in place, i didn't had any problems with Opera anymore, and others seems to have it working flawlessly too.
ICS HWA
The latest ICS rom has partly working HWA.
Ashareth said:
- Didn't brick anything, the first time it worked flawlessly... but yeah, since then, messing with wrong apps, making mistakes, i've bricked it quite some, but who cares, with the locked bootloader, one thing we can't do is permanently brick our phones, all we need if to find the right sbf to reflash (which was a pain during the first 2/3 months after MU was taken down )
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In some ways, the locked bootloader did a good job on preventing us from bricking the phone.
DolphinWing said:
In some ways, the locked bootloader did a good job on preventing us from bricking the phone.
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Yeah "in a way".... except it makes developpement far harder and actually brings more problems and "soft bricks" than without one.
Hello everyone,
After long tests:
Stock firmwares vs AOSP Roms
Previously, stock roms was better for gaming. They were have best 3D performance with very little overclock. And sensors was better on stock rom.
After JW8, games running much faster than old releases. Even better than old froyo gaming performance.
So I deicided to slimming the stock roms, dying them. cool blue color, adding some tweaks to increase performance, replacing some ram hungry things with ram friendly alternatives, adding some good features that never implemented before, using all features with no lose from gaming performance. This was my focus about GamerzRom.
CyanogenMod is cool.
But about 2 month ago,
Thats why I stick stock ROMs1- Gaming performance was worse than stock.
2- Accelerometer and other sensors were unresponsible and impossible to play games with them.
3- Filesystem was confusing us. (datadata problems and lags)
4- Radical changes in short times needs full wipe which I don't like it.
5- Camera was worse than stock roms, especially the 720p recording.
6- Stock ROMS was faster overal.
When I look cyanogenmod these days after very detailed benchmarks today again;
1- Gaming performance and 3D performance is much better than stock roms. (System UI priority decreased and gaming is very quality.)
2- Accelerometer and other sensors are BETTER and more responsive than stock (Accelerometer delay is 20 ms on stock roms, 10 ms on cyangeonmod.)
3- Filesystem is much better - faster than stock with new layout.
4- No radical changes and everyday cyangeonmod team and community adding new features to it.
5- Camera is very smooth and much funnier than stock rom. Benchmarked both. They exactly same. But JellyBean camera features are new destinty.
6- Cyanogenmod 10 is faster OVERALL.
7- Webbrowsing is much better on cyangeonmod 10.
8- You got 390 mb RAM + 720p recording with devil kernel. (Which is 364 mb ram on stock)
9- You can take videos with front cam on cyanogenmod 10.
10- Instantly getting new updates from google to our device. (Latest android features)
11- HW Acceleration is very important for todays devices. Gingerbread is totally crap for most of apps including tapatalk.
12- Sound quality is much better on AOSP roms and you got more chance to tweak it.
13- There are too much reasons that I don't really remember.
14- Touchscreen is much responsive on this one.
For sure, I got my own codes and implementions for AOSP roms. But I have a crappy PC which running a 32 bit Arch-Linux.
Sadly, I need a 64-bit PC and can't compile ROM's on 32 bit PC.
I think from now I can't make more than cyanogenmod team and I highly recommend my users to switching Cyanogenmod 10.
Only negative effects of cyanogenmod is;
- You can't make video calls
That's all.
My suggestion for a combiantion.
-Latest CyanogenMod nightly.
-Devil kernel
As I reminded. You have no reasons to stay on crappy gingerbread with a half hw-accelerated browser.
Upgrade your phone now...
And if you want to donate me because of works I did until today, please donate derteufel1980 or pawitp. Because they doing much more than me.
About GameBooster etc.. We are working like a hurricane. You will get what you paid and much more. Thanks for supporting us.
IMPORTANT:
- Give your blessings.
- Renounce your rights for me in this.
(Or how we must tell this in English. That's just important about my religion.)
burakgon said:
Hello everyone,
After long tests:
Stock firmwares vs AOSP Roms
Previously, stock roms was better for gaming. They were have best 3D performance with very little overclock. And sensors was better on stock rom.
After JW8, games running much faster than old releases. Even better than old froyo gaming performance.
So I deicided to slimming the stock roms, dying them. cool blue color, adding some tweaks to increase performance, replacing some ram hungry things with ram friendly alternatives, adding some good features that never implemented before, using all features with no lose from gaming performance. This was my focus about GamerzRom.
CyanogenMod is cool.
But about 2 month ago,
Thats why I stick stock ROMs1- Gaming performance was worse than stock.
2- Accelerometer and other sensors were unresponsible and impossible to play games with them.
3- Filesystem was confusing us. (datadata problems and lags)
4- Radical changes in short times needs full wipe which I don't like it.
5- Camera was worse than stock roms, especially the 720p recording.
6- Stock ROMS was faster overal.
When I look cyanogenmod these days after very detailed benchmarks today again;
1- Gaming performance and 3D performance is much better than stock roms. (System UI priority decreased and gaming is very quality.)
2- Accelerometer and other sensors are BETTER and more responsive than stock (Accelerometer delay is 20 ms on stock roms, 10 ms on cyangeonmod.)
3- Filesystem is much better - faster than stock with new layout.
4- No radical changes and everyday cyangeonmod team and community adding new features to it.
5- Camera is very smooth and much funnier than stock rom. Benchmarked both. They exactly same. But JellyBean camera features are new destinty.
6- Cyanogenmod 10 is faster OVERALL.
7- Webbrowsing is much better on cyangeonmod 10.
8- You got 390 mb RAM + 720p recording with devil kernel. (Which is 364 mb ram on stock)
9- You can take videos with front cam on cyanogenmod 10.
10- Instantly getting new updates from google to our device. (Latest android features)
11- HW Acceleration is very important for todays devices. Gingerbread is totally crap for most of apps including tapatalk.
12- Sound quality is much better on AOSP roms and you got more chance to tweak it.
13- There are too much reasons that I don't really remember.
14- Touchscreen is much responsive on this one.
For sure, I got my own codes and implementions for AOSP roms. But I have a crappy PC which running a 32 bit Arch-Linux.
Sadly, I need a 64-bit PC and can't compile ROM's on 32 bit PC.
I think from now I can't make more than cyanogenmod team and I highly recommend my users to switching Cyanogenmod 10.
Only negative effects of cyanogenmod is;
- You can't make video calls
That's all.
My suggestion for a combiantion.
-Latest CyanogenMod nightly.
-Devil kernel
As I reminded. You have no reasons to stay on crappy gingerbread with a half hw-accelerated browser.
Upgrade your phone now...
And if you want to donate me because of works I did until today, please donate derteufel1980 or pawitp. Because they doing much more than me.
About GameBooster etc.. We are working like a hurricane. You will get what you paid and much more. Thanks for supporting us.
IMPORTANT:
- Give your blessings.
- Renounce your rights for me in this.
(Or how we must tell this in English. That's just important about my religion.)
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Maybe i can help you with building.
I have resourses for that butt only thing is i cannot provide you remote access.
Send me a pm.
I appreciate all ur work and tbh all ur roms were as great as you, hope u keep on development in general, wish u all the luck.
I will give a try to Gamezrom I am using CM9 and I am very satisfied!
Hello,
After changing tons of phones in last weeks/months, i finaly got my s5 mini, my dream phone it seems. It is of a perfect size for me and it is very grippy due to rubber back cover. Now i want to improve it as much as i can. I want to stay on stock 6.0.1 rom (unless u see there is any point in downgrading ?). I will first say what i did and then ask what i can do to improve it further.
What i did:
1. turn all animations to 0 in developers options
2. turn off s voice
3. disabled all apps i could that i dont need
4. turned off a bunch of other things i dont need
What i need help with:
1. what else can i do to further improve performance
2. google maps app seems a bit slow. Any way to improve it or is this phone simply to weak
3. any tips for camera, how to take better photos/video, any settings i should change ?
No one ?
Hello,
I personally think its kind of funny that someone says that the s5 mini is their dream phone in 2019. I mean its kind of old and outdated now and while I can of course understand that you like the size of it and the rubber back, there are many alternatives which also dont break the bank. I think without rooting or flashing another Rom, your experience is not going to get better than it already is. The s5 mini is not the most powerful phone you know. Anyways I used a galaxy s5 mini from 2014 untill 2018 and I was never really happy with it. It was always slow and sluggish, though the camera was good for 2014 and what I really liked about it was its ip67 certification, I got into the pool with it xD. I ran it on Android 4.4.2 for most of its live, mainly because I rooted it in 2015 and thus couldnt update to a newer version of Android. But in late 2017 I decided to factory reset and flash a stock Android 5 Rom via Kies. After that I updatet to 6.0.1 Marshmello, but in early 2018 the hole thing was to slow for me and I threw a custom Rom on it. Android 8 but it was in beta and very buggy so I flashed Resurection Remix with Android 7.1.2. It was already way faster and more modern than on the stock Rom. But then I found a Kernel that would let me overclock the cpu from 1.4 Ghz to 1.6 Ghz and the Gpu from 400 mhz to 600 mhz. So i used that Kernel and the phone was actually very useable. The first time in 4 years of ownwership, I was really happy with my s5 mini. I bought a new phone (Honor 9) though only like 6 weeks after flashing the Kernel lol. The Honor 9, after 1 year has never let me down tough and im very very happy with it.
S5 mini G800F
Hi there,
I'm happy with my S5 mini (G800F), but I really need an Dual SIM device with better battery life and will have to get one soon. Battery life is weak point.
I have installed LineageOS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2), didn't have success to install Gapps though. Using F-Droid and YalpStore. There are some bugs with the camera (it stops working) but after restart works fine again.
It is an OK device, but a bit slow and with short battery life.
Unfortunately from 2-3 weeks there is a problem with my main microphone and is not the mic itself but some motherboard bad connection or something. Works fine with headset but it is not really convenient
According to some people if one switches Off the LTE the battery life is better.
Instead of Gmaps I'm using HereWeGo, OruxMaps and Sygic - all for free.
About the camera: I am using Open Camera. The camera app of LOS 14.1 is really plain Of OpenCamera I like the DRO option, but it takes a few seconds to generate the picture.
Hope you will find the best way to use your S5 mini. It is very cute device with so many advantages like notification LED with RGB, ambient light sensor, NFC, IR, AMOLED, small size and weight... I will miss all of this in such a small and ergonomic package.
I understand your point. There are no more under 5" devices with normal specs. So sad...
Best regards!
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
Zsheoran said:
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
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I can't say for sure, but I quite like Viperos and AOSPExtended Oreo. Not using it actively anymore though.
Zsheoran said:
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
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I recommend the unofficial LineageOs 16 custom rom for you. This is the most stable rom I’ve ever seen for the S5 mini.
Only Requirement is to have the G800F model.
Otherwise you will break you phone.
Im running CrDroid 5.12 on my g800f with the Spookcity Kernel and Magisk. Although I'm using a Oneplus 5 as my main device I'm very happy with the results. You can run Android P roms like Posp, LineageOS, CrDroid, bootleggers or Aosp (extended). I think you can get very happy using POSP with Open Gapps nano/Pico. But CrDroid is the only rom, which is getting updated. It also is the only Pie rom supporting NFC.
OC Kernel 1.6
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m0cg3PQV1XGGPSbBIi1QxuhTDaulX6EL/view
CrDroid
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-crdroid-5-0-pie-t3880298
POSP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-posp-v2-2-t3921291
Bootleggers
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397969246
Open Gapps
https://opengapps.org/
Magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
This might be a pretty late reply, but I hope it can help.
If you want to stay on Marshmallow, I would really recommend rooting your device. I can't tell you exactly which, but you can deactivate a lot of system apps with root, which can improve performance in some scenarios (Look at some debloat script from other Samsung phones - a lot of the apps are the same). For deactivating system apps I use this app. Alternatively you could try to deactivate system apps without root with ADB.
In my opinion the Google apps are all very slow and all the system apps slow your device down a lot (from my experience the Google Play Services and especially the Google Play Store), which is why I either use microG on the Stock ROM or at least deactivate what I can.
Sadly you can't push much more performance out of this phone, especially not without a Custom ROM. It has four pretty weak CPUs and one really bad GPU - don't expect to be able to play any even slightly demanding games, better stay at those 2D titles. The only way to make it feel faster is to use the lightest
- OS (in my opinion any Android 6 ROM)
- system apps (disable unnecessary-seeming ones - but be very careful!) <- of course only on Stock ROM
- third-party/user apps (if an app is slow, look for alternatives - for example you could look at OSMand or MAPS.ME istead of Google Maps)
Pokemetti2 said:
This might be a pretty late reply, but I hope it can help.
If you want to stay on Marshmallow, I would really recommend rooting your device. I can't tell you exactly which, but you can deactivate a lot of system apps with root, which can improve performance in some scenarios (Look at some debloat script from other Samsung phones - a lot of the apps are the same). For deactivating system apps I use this app. Alternatively you could try to deactivate system apps without root with ADB.
In my opinion the Google apps are all very slow and all the system apps slow your device down a lot (from my experience the Google Play Services and especially the Google Play Store), which is why I either use microG on the Stock ROM or at least deactivate what I can.
Sadly you can't push much more performance out of this phone, especially not without a Custom ROM. It has four pretty weak CPUs and one really bad GPU - don't expect to be able to play any even slightly demanding games, better stay at those 2D titles. The only way to make it feel faster is to use the lightest
- OS (in my opinion any Android 6 ROM)
- system apps (disable unnecessary-seeming ones - but be very careful!) <- of course only on Stock ROM
- third-party/user apps (if an app is slow, look for alternatives - for example you could look at OSMand or MAPS.ME istead of Google Maps)
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The Google app is a mandatory update with the new Play Store layout and app updates eat into the storage of the phone.