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Hello...
Sorry for my question, but I didn't find any answers to it.
The question is: What is the advantage of custom recovery? And, what advantages of custom roms?
Thanks for your attention and sorry for newbie question.
Umm custom recovery let's you flash custom ROMs on your device. Custom ROMs have many more options over stock, like 720p video recording, themes for Your status bar and icons, transparent widgets, more control ever settings and more options, etc. The list goes on and on, its endless. Custom ROMs are far better.
custom recovery is really just a GUI to make it easier to run commands you would normally have to do in a terminal or command prompt... makes flashing roms, kernels, wiping data, recalibrating your battery, ect. all much much easier...
custom roms have a lot more features built in, have some bug fixes and hacks that allow you to do things that you would not on a vanilla rom...
But is necessary a custom recovery to install a custom rom?
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I believe that the stock Recovery will only flash ROMs that have an HTC digital signature. Whereas the custom Recovery will flash whatever you want.
So if you want to put custom ROMs on your phone the first step is to put on a custom Recovery.
The #1 greatest reason is nandroid backup.
It's like an image backup of the whole phone.
So if you make a nandroid backup, and screw the phone up, or do what you want, you can restore the nandroid backup and it will be 100% exactly as it was.
Yes custom recovery best function is certainly the nand backup. You can restore your phone to any instant in time exactly as it was at that point, down to every single file.
The last question. What is the difficult to back to stock rom from a custom rom/custom recovery?
I have seen many peoples here with problems to upgrade your custom roms (custom eclair rom) to a stock froyo when it come out.
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There is no problem at all. You can flash any ROM you want in a few minutes.
Newb question, to which I have been unable to find the answer, but:
Is it possible to flash a custom recovery (which I assume must be done after unlocking the bootloader), but keep stock Android? Despite all the advantages of custom ROMs, my heartstrings are tied to OTA updates and pure stock.
My biggest reason for wanting Amon Ra's recovery is the nandroid backup as well.
Would a custom recovery/stock ROM still get OTA updates?
Samurai Drac said:
Newb question, to which I have been unable to find the answer, but:
Is it possible to flash a custom recovery (which I assume must be done after unlocking the bootloader), but keep stock Android? Despite all the advantages of custom ROMs, my heartstrings are tied to OTA updates and pure stock.
My biggest reason for wanting Amon Ra's recovery is the nandroid backup as well.
Would a custom recovery/stock ROM still get OTA updates?
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Yes you can have custom recovery but everything else stock.
And No you will not get OTA updates with custom recovery installed.
You can always just keep flashing custom recovery to do nandroid, then flash back to original recovery. Takes seconds on the PC.
From what I understood, if you were on stock 2.1 with Amon-RA recovery, you couldn't update to OTA 2.2 due to an error.
Atento said:
The last question. What is the difficult to back to stock rom from a custom rom/custom recovery?
I have seen many peoples here with problems to upgrade your custom roms (custom eclair rom) to a stock froyo when it come out.
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There is no difficulty in reverting, sinc ea custome recovery will allow you to flash anything.
BTW, you can also flash ROMs from your PC using the fastboot command line.
The main issue with reverting to stock is that unlocking the N1 bootloader voids your warranty. There is now a method of flashing a custom recovery without unlocking the bootloader. I recommend that method.
Hi all,
There is just to much info here and I cant find what I'm looking to do... tried other sites also but not the same.
I have in the UK a stock Wifi GED Jelly Bean Xoom.
I would like to flash a custom ROM.
Am I correct in thinking I need to:-
Root - still not found a guide that does JB
Install Clockwork Mod Recovery
Boot into recovery mode and select wipe... install from .zip within CMR?
Pointers would be greatly appreciated...
I think unlocking and rooting would be the same regardless of the OS.
I also suggest you flash TWRP instead of CWM, both are fine either way.
Once you boot into recovery wipe cashe, dalvik cache, and data (factory restore).
Then flash ROM and GAPPS (for the specific ROM).
Just make sure the ROM you flash is designed for your device (there are many flavors of XOOM, each a little different from the others).
Geeba said:
Root - still not found a guide that does JB
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Irrelevant if you plan on using a custom rom.
1. unlock bootloader via fastboot - fastboot oem unlock
2. flash custom recovery via fastboot - fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
3. flash custom rom via the custom recovery you just flashed
Plenty of guides that go over this much.
Cubanluke88 said:
Irrelevant if you plan on using a custom rom.
1. unlock bootloader via fastboot - fastboot oem unlock
2. flash custom recovery via fastboot - fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
3. flash custom rom via the custom recovery you just flashed
Plenty of guides that go over this much.
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Any pointers on what would cover a stock JB Wifi? - its all pretty bewildering if I'm honest.. I have no issues flashing my HD2 phone with Droid Clockwork Mod --> instal from zip... but the xoom doesnt appear to be that straightforward
Look at this guide that I came across. xoomforums.com/forum/motorola-xoom-development/15179-how-rookie-rooting-flashing-unrooting-under-one-roof.
Sorry it would not me post the link to the guide.
Just a thought..... Xooms sold in the UK do not have a JB update yet, so I would assume the Xoom may already have had its bootlaoder unlocked to convert it to a GED device and as part of that a custom revoery (like ClockworkMod) installed.
Is it worth trying to reboot into recovery to find out if you already have a Custom Recovery installed ? Might simplify the process somewhat......
I must admit, I've no idea what the stock recovery would look like though seeing as I GEDified my Xoom within a week of getting it
Hi, I am not too sure if I posted this in the right place or not but please let me know if it is posted in the wrong place. I am actually relatively new towards rooting of an android device so i need to clear my doubts.
I used Wugfresh toolkit to root my Nexus 10. The toolkit also have an option to install TWRP. But the version of TWRP is not the most updated one. So, can I just download the latest one and flash it or i need to remove the current one before I can update the version.
Also, I am interested in flashing a custom ROM. But my question is if a new stock firmware is out, how am i going to update to the latest stock firmware when I am in a custom ROM.
Please let me know if you don't understand my question. I will try my best to explain further and also thank you in advance.
iOrdinary said:
Hi, I am not too sure if I posted this in the right place or not but please let me know if it is posted in the wrong place. I am actually relatively new towards rooting of an android device so i need to clear my doubts.
I used Wugfresh toolkit to root my Nexus 10. The toolkit also have an option to install TWRP. But the version of TWRP is not the most updated one. So, can I just download the latest one and flash it or i need to remove the current one before I can update the version.
Also, I am interested in flashing a custom ROM. But my question is if a new stock firmware is out, how am i going to update to the latest stock firmware when I am in a custom ROM.
Please let me know if you don't understand my question. I will try my best to explain further and also thank you in advance.
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TWRP typically recommends installing and updating their recovery via Goo's app thing, but if you know where to look (openrecovery on goo + manta), you can get the .img and then flash it with fastboot. I usually do fastboot erase recovery and then fastboot flash boot TWRP-IMAGE.img. But if you don't feel too comfortable with fastboot, then Goo's program should take care of it I think.
If you want to try the latest stock when you're using a custom ROM, you'll need to flash the latest factory image from Google to go back stock, and then update it (unless the factory image is updated to the latest, which doesn't usually happen till days later). Just want to make sure you backup anything important.
espionage724 said:
TWRP typically recommends installing and updating their recovery via Goo's app thing, but if you know where to look (openrecovery on goo + manta), you can get the .img and then flash it with fastboot. I usually do fastboot erase recovery and then fastboot flash boot TWRP-IMAGE.img. But if you don't feel too comfortable with fastboot, then Goo's program should take care of it I think.
If you want to try the latest stock when you're using a custom ROM, you'll need to flash the latest factory image from Google to go back stock, and then update it (unless the factory image is updated to the latest, which doesn't usually happen till days later). Just want to make sure you backup anything important.
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So, for TWRP, it means that I can restore the stock recovery before I flash the TWRP img right? Because I am using the Wugfresh toolkit to run all these fashboot commands and they only have the options to either flash a custom recovery or to restore the stock recovery.
As for the custom ROMs, every time I flash a ROM, all my stuff in my Nexus 10 will be gone right? For example my game progress etc. Because if I were to backup, I will make a nandroid backup which means every single thing in my nexus. So, correct me if I am wrong. Every time I flash a ROM, my nexus will be back to a clean state right?
Thank you in advance for your answers. ^^
Successfully installed twrp, now I am just curious: must any rom we flash be loki'd to work? not really an issue but wanna know my limits... we arent gonna be ablec o just flash canadian roms then, right? (until they are loki'd)
t2abousa said:
Successfully installed twrp, now I am just curious: must any rom we flash be loki'd to work? not really an issue but wanna know my limits... we arent gonna be ablec o just flash canadian roms then, right? (until they are loki'd)
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This is going to become a huge problem if people don't start reading about what it is they are doing to their phones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292157
"I've installed a Loki-patched recovery. Can I just install regular custom ROMs now?
Any ROMs that include a replacement boot.img must be modified to include a Loki-patched boot.lok file instead. Otherwise, your phone will fail to boot until you restore a Samsung-signed boot.img or a custom boot.lok image via your custom recovery, or flash a stock image via Odin.
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This is going to become a huge problem if people don't start reading about what it is they are doing to their phones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292157
"I've installed a Loki-patched recovery. Can I just install regular custom ROMs now?
Any ROMs that include a replacement boot.img must be modified to include a Loki-patched boot.lok file instead. Otherwise, your phone will fail to boot until you restore a Samsung-signed boot.img or a custom boot.lok image via your custom recovery, or flash a stock image via Odin.
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As always a good answer from the king.
First let me apologise if this is in the wrong section. I could not decide if this was the best place for it or q a&a. As the title sais. If i flash twrp will it prevent me from receiving ota updates from Google. I have an HTC sensation XE and if i flash a custom recovery i know from past experience that it prevents ota updates. This nexus 7 however is my first "Google" device you could call it and as such i do not know that.
Can any one inform me on this issue. Also if it will an ota cause loss of root on this nexus like it did on my smartphone or will it stay? If it is gone i suppose it will simply be a matter of using chainfires root tool again when it gets updated for it.
Thanks in advance.
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Q&A would be the best place for the post, but I can offer some insight. Any time you flash a custom rom you will forfeit the option of an ota update from your carrier or Google. This doesn't affect your play store apps as they will update when needed. The information that gets sent to your carrier identifies it as being non-official software so only a few custom ROMs that are well maintained will point the ota updates to its own servers. If you wish to receive official ota updates you should perform a nandroid backup of your stock rom to have a restore point for when a new release comes out. Aside from that, you would have to flash everything back to stock (probably stock recovery too) in order to be seen by the carrier as an eligible device.
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Who said anything about flashing a custom rom. I know i didn't. Sorry but that reply is no insight at all. I asked if flashing twrp a custom recovery would prevent ota updates like on my phone. Nothing else. I did not say one word about custom recovery.
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Ch3vr0n said:
Who said anything about flashing a custom rom. I know i didn't. Sorry but that reply is no insight at all. I asked if flashing twrp a custom recovery would prevent ota updates like on my phone. Nothing else. I did not say one word about custom recovery.
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If you install a custom recovery like twrp, you wouldn't be able to install an OTA from Google. You need stock recovery for OTAs.
now that's more of an answer i was hoping to get, can some other users confirm this? I suppose i'll lose root aswell but i imagine that would simply be a case of waiting for an updated root tool then. Say i do flash a recovery, does google have a page where you can manually download the update files to flash? But that would probably cause a lose of root as well but the custom recovery would remain intact, correct?
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now that's more of an answer i was hoping to get, can some other users confirm this? I suppose i'll lose root aswell but i imagine that would simply be a case of waiting for an updated root tool then. Say i do flash a recovery, does google have a page where you can manually download the update files to flash? But that would probably cause a lose of root as well but the custom recovery would remain intact, correct?
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This has already been brought up many times e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404833
I thought as much. I'll stick with stock recovery then until i need a custom recovery for some specific reason. For now root access is enough. And if an ota comes out and i lose recovery well I'll just wait for chainfire to update his root tool
i received the jss15j -> jsl36c update on my razorg with twrp recovery installed.
after the update stock recovery was back.
you can boot every recovery or kernel image without flashing it using fastboot:
fastboot boot nameofrecovery.img
I think you can have your cake and eat it too.
Instead of "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" to flash the custom recovery, you can "fastboot boot recovery.img".
Every time you want the custom recovery, use fastboot boot command on the pc. This way you can make nandroid backups and flash superSU to root. But, you will not be replacing the stock recovery.
I did this on my HTC phone, when I wanted to remain stock, rooted, yet able to receive OTA updates.
HowardZ said:
I think you can have your cake and eat it too.
Instead of "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" to flash the custom recovery, you can "fastboot boot recovery.img".
Every time you want the custom recovery, use fastboot boot command on the pc. This way you can make nandroid backups and flash superSU to root. But, you will not be replacing the stock recovery.
I did this on my HTC phone, when I wanted to remain stock, rooted, yet able to receive OTA updates.
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Good to know.
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I've taken OTAs using custom recoveries before on any number of devices. If you're not careful you can lose your recovery and have to reflash again, but sometimes you don't even lose that.
Well, there might be complications installing an OTA with custom recovery if it comes with a newer bootloader version/radio. Sometimes it works, but there were also reported problems.
Well i just had an ota update to jss15r and lost root as kinda expected. Now ill just have to find out if rerunning the root tool will be enough. Since it is already OEM unlocked i suppose i can simply modify that bat file and remove that line and run it again?