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Droid x loses again vs Evo

Round 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJlqgr57_uQ
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This reviewer said that the Droid X has no flash player on the internet browser on the phone how is that possibile i thought they partner with Adobe? If that is True big L for the X and Verizon But anyways the is X is nice but not Evo nice

Yeah the Droid X looks like a pretty nice phone and all but I am still loving my Evo and still extremely happy with my choice.

Yea the x is nice but the evo just has more goin for it. I love mine!!
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People,
The more high powered great Android phones out there is a good thing. Let's not bash the Droid X but welcome it to the family. There is a reason there are 160k android activations per day and it's because Android gives people choice. Choice of carrier, choice of form factor, choice of manufacturer.

donatom3 said:
People,
The more high powered great Android phones out there is a good thing. Let's not bash the Droid X but welcome it to the family. There is a reason there are 160k android activations per day and it's because Android gives people choice. Choice of carrier, choice of form factor, choice of manufacturer.
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oooowweeee, amen dude...more BA androids out there the more people we can play with.
haha welcome droid x

The Droid X has a lot more going on the accessories. That charging dock is pure sex, and the built-in charger for the car dock is a plus.

donatom3 said:
People,
The more high powered great Android phones out there is a good thing. Let's not bash the Droid X but welcome it to the family. There is a reason there are 160k android activations per day and it's because Android gives people choice. Choice of carrier, choice of form factor, choice of manufacturer.
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Well said /signed

anthonylokrn said:
That charging dock is pure sex.
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Now that cracked me up.

wish the supersonic had the DLNA.would've been nice.

GHOST99K said:
wish the supersonic had the DLNA.would've been nice.
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Download Twonky Server in the market.

SO TRUE!! ANDROID FTW!!! ( as oppose to evo or x )

I want the panorama assist.
Someone should pull that from the X, and port it to the Evo.
Or even better make a port of Sweep, it's a lot better than motorola's program.

You'll never truly enjoy the great phone in your hands if you spend time comparing it to everything else. The Evo has great specs, a great look, 4G, and an unbelievable dev community. If there's a way to boost our graphics, they will make it happen.
Even now, I thoroughly enjoy using my phone. It handles everything I do very well. It's the best experience I've had with a phone. Easily. Bigger and better is always around the corner, but I see myself hanging onto this phone for a long time.

auau465121 said:
Round 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJlqgr57_uQ
Round 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr1NrDraT3o
This reviewer said that the Droid X has no flash player on the internet browser on the phone how is that possibile i thought they partner with Adobe? If that is True big L for the X and Verizon But anyways the is X is nice but not Evo nice
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here is a post from BGR showing flash on the droid X
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/06/adobe-flash-droidx/

I think the Droid X looks like a great phone but I'm really in love with my EVO and wouldn't trade it for the world (or at least until HTC releases the follow-up possibly this Christmas). And spec-wise the EVO still kind of has the DX beat (as well as beauty).
I really love the Droid series though. I appreciate everything Verizon has done with the lineup and Android as a whole owes a lot to the Droid series for putting Android phones on the map. Their marketing is simply badassery! It makes me proud to see that it never fails that every time a Droid commercial comes on, everybody in the room pauses to watch. They really give Apple some fierce competition.

sfox8 said:
I think the Droid X looks like a great phone but I'm really in love with my EVO and wouldn't trade it for the world (or at least until HTC releases the follow-up possibly this Christmas). And spec-wise the EVO still kind of has the DX beat (as well as beauty).
I really love the Droid series though. I appreciate everything Verizon has done with the lineup and Android as a whole owes a lot to the Droid series for putting Android phones on the map. Their marketing is simply badassery! It makes me proud to see that it never fails that every time a Droid commercial comes on, everybody in the room pauses to watch. They really give Apple some fierce competition.
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I agree. If it wasn't for verizon's marketing, no one but tech geeks would own andriod phones. That would be bad for the application market and choice of handsets.

auau465121 said:
his reviewer said that the Droid X has no flash player on the internet browser on the phone how is that possibile i thought they partner with Adobe? If that is True big L for the X and Verizon But anyways the is X is nice but not Evo nice
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Fanboys always make me smile
Whatever it takes to make yourself feel better about your purchase...

I was bit by the shiny new toy bug when I first heard about the Droid X but it didn't take long to go away LOL I really like the EVO alot better, It looks nicer, is smaller and has a way better UI than the Droid X not to mention we will have Froyo long before Motorola releases it

Maybe you'll have froyo long before the driod x, but don't count on it. Motorola is very quick about their os updates.

I don't know. After seeing what the XDA developer community can do with phones, I find it hard to stray to a brand other than HTC. I wish the dev community got a cut of my phone purchases, because their work entices me more than HTC ever has.

Do you plan on going from a "higher spec'd" device to the Moto X...

and why? I like the simple design, hopefully this 4.7" screen will be more readable than the htc one 4.7" screen. I'm thinking so? But if I get the device I'll be coming from an sgs4. Kinda tired of touchjizz and always had a softspot for motorola, and miss my nexus 4 experience minus the horrible battery life. I hope we can unlock the bootloader on this device with no issues :0

I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...

Beach_Head said:
I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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When is the google version coming out?
Would the google store variant be stripped of the moto x features? Sort of like the google sgs4 edition stripped of tw. IDK.

SysAdmNj said:
When is the google version coming out?
Would the google store variant be stripped of the moto x features? Sort of like the google sgs4 edition stripped of tw. IDK.
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No. Google edition will be exactly the same moto x.
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Superpopsss said:
No. Google edition will be exactly the same moto x.
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That would be great, the question is when? And why would they not release at the same time as carriers. I mean I'm guessing they dont want to interfere with carrier sales but that can also backfire as people can just wait for the google version? More choices for different types of users.

I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.

jonnyg1097 said:
I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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I may be doing the same - sort of. My nexus died so I'm using a Bionic right now. I want to see more user reviews of the X.
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i'm going from a GNex to the MotoX. so comparable that i hope my car-mount works for it

Currently have the SGS3. Not really wanting a new phone, but wife needs one and has an upgrade, so she's taking this and I get a new one!
I thought I would be a shoe in for the SGS4, but the X has really intrigued me. That and I just end up running CM 10.X on the galaxy, so why not start out with a stockish experience? I do enjoy ROMing and modding, so not sure how that will work out if I get it thru Verizon on contract. If unlocking the bootloader is definitely a no-go, then I could wait for developer edition. Not sure what I'll do.
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jmcharles said:
If unlocking the bootloader is definitely a no-go, then I could wait for developer edition. Not sure what I'll do.
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We never know if it's a sure thing or not. I think with there being so many variations with unlocked BL we have a better chance.
Who knows, maybe Dan R wants a big fat payday again for showing motorola up.
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jonnyg1097 said:
I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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The x will be a lot faster and a considerable bump to your Galaxy Nexus.
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I will be switching from Google edition HTC One.. I will keep HTC one until the moto x gets 4.3.
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the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.

DonDizzurp said:
the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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Very good point, hopefully its true on the Moto X.

DonDizzurp said:
the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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This is such an annoying thing to read over and over.
The iPhone STILL has a class leading GPU and a year ago it's processor was EXCELLENT. Apple doesn't skimp on specs. They use less ram sometimes, but that's about it.

eallan said:
This is such an annoying thing to read over and over.
The iPhone STILL has a class leading GPU and a year ago it's processor was EXCELLENT. Apple doesn't skimp on specs. They use less ram sometimes, but that's about it.
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Its CPU is nothing to write home about. The dual core swift is about on par with the MSM8960 krait CPU. I doubt that the A7 CPU will surpass the SD800, but the OS is less demanding and the GPU will be awesome, although Samsung is starting to use imagination technologies GPUs again, which is good.
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SysAdmNj said:
Very good point, hopefully its true on the Moto X.
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Based on all the reviews I have read, there hasn't been anything you would normally do with a phone that the MotoX cannot do and is very responsive. That's all you really can ask for. The Adreno 320 GPU is the same as what's in the htc one and sgs4, so gaming isn't an issue either.

Psilocin said:
Based on all the reviews I have read, there hasn't been anything you would normally do with a phone that the MotoX cannot do and is very responsive. That's all you really can ask for. The Adreno 320 GPU is the same as what's in the htc one and sgs4, so gaming isn't an issue either.
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As long as its staying as close to vanilla as possible sprinkled with a few moto x goodies, it should be smooth. I hardly game on my devices. I'm looking forward to this, not expecting to be wow'ed. I was going to wait for the nexus 5, but lg again? I'm not the biggest lg fan.

Beach_Head said:
I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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My Verizon GS3 (Owned 2) wireless radio > RAZR Maxx + Razr HD. Better Wi-Fi range & connection as well.
To answer the thread, no. I will not be getting the Moto X. Development has always been weak for Motorola phones. I've owned 2 stated above. My wife use to own the Motorola Photon on Sprint. I know Motorola phones well enough lol. Not blaming developers. It's Motorola's security and locking everything down. Plus I don't like Motorola's camera quality for pictures and videos.
I'm now waiting to see what the next gen Nexus will bring. After owning a Nexus 7 (2013), I enjoy it too much I now want that experience on my phone also. Still love my S3 but when my contract is up, time to move on.
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Thank Me Later said:
My Verizon GS3 (Owned 2) wireless radio > RAZR Maxx + Razr HD. Better Wi-Fi range & connection as well.
To answer the thread, no. I will not be getting the Moto X. Development has always been weak for Motorola phones. I've owned 2 stated above. My wife use to own the Motorola Photon on Sprint. I know Motorola phones well enough lol. Not blaming developers. It's Motorola's security and locking everything down. Plus I don't like Motorola's camera quality for pictures and videos.
I'm now waiting to see what the next gen Nexus will bring. After owning a Nexus 7 (2013), I enjoy it too much I now want that experience on my phone also. Still love my S3 but when my contract is up, time to move on.
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Locked down? Not the google edition or dev edtion. Thats what I'm waiting for. Also from what I understand this motorola device will not be like any of its previous "droid" "razr" devices and amen for that.

Futureproofing

Facing a problem here, and it's expectedly another Nexus 5 vs Moto X debate.
I'm really tempted to get the N5. I originally had my mind set on getting the G2 but seeing the prohibitive price and quality control problems I decided against it. The N5 is definitely very, very appealing with its $399 price tag and the fact that it isn't out of stock for 5 months like the N4 was (please, 32GB only please, I cannot live with 16GB, no if ands or buts).
However, the Moto X came along and threw a wrench into my plans. It just looks so awesome and sexy and it's got so many things that the N5 is missing. It's got a white front (+1 for Moto X), AMOLED screen (+1, at least for me), Active display or whatever its called (+1), Dual Krait with an Adreno 320 (big +1 for performance/efficiency balance). As for performance, I must say that I'm making a judgment based on the present, because the future is the whole point of this post.
Here's where it comes down to: how futureproof is this device? As it costs more than the N5, I would expect for it to last as long as the N5 but with the MSM8960T vs MSM8974 debate the Moto X doesn't fare well against the Nexus. I fear this because I had a Motorola Defy; the OMAP 3630 was good until the release of ICS, until CM9 came out. That was when the single Cortex-A8 core began showing its age and things really became less pleasant. That was also when all my buddies here took off and got new phones except for people from India who got the phone because it was cheap. They don't seem to mind, given that every ROM regardless of how laggy it is (most of them are) gets a "Wow, this ROM is really smooth!" from all the users.
What do you guys think? How futureproof do you think the Moto X is? Do you think that the S4 Pro here will yield a good smooth experience for 2 years or do you think that I would be better off with the Nexus 5? Of course, software is where it differs from the Defy; official updates stopped at 2.3 for the Defy but Motorola seems to be supporting the Moto X well.

Considering Google is making the future versions of Android to run better on lower end phones. I have no doubt future updates will be silky smooth!! I myself am not worrying to much about the future as this probably will be with me for under a year.
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Dumped my nexus 5. Abysmal battery life & speakers (good luck ever hearing a phone call coming through). I like the Moto X screen better, not to mention the features.
Plus who are we kidding, us techies get a new phone very year.

I could be wrong but I feel like the next big improvements in Smartphone tech will be battery efficiency, camera quality and new faster internet/radio speeds.
I honestly don't think we will see major improvements like we did in the last couple years as far as CPU/GPU power goes. Google also seems to be pushing efficiency (support for 512mb ram etc) with its most recent Android build. So really any currently "fast" phone will be just as fast a couple years from now. Just the camera/battery performance will be lackluster compared to its future competition. If you game a lot at max details on your phone I could see the N5 coming ahead a bit just because the S800/330 is a very powerful combo.
With that in mind if we look at the moto X vs N5 what do we see... well the Moto X definitely seems to have stronger battery performance and the cameras seem to be about the same overall (though excelling/failing in different areas). I pretty much faced the same question you do right now and decided to try out the Moto X first.
For me it was a little easier too because I snapped up a republic wireless model for $300, so the unlocked price is similar to the N5. Plus sprint has strong LTE in my area.

I look at it like this: phones like Nexus 5 that has to power a 1080 screen will need bigger hardware to deliver a smooth experience. Notice that all the phones equipped with Snapdragon 600, carries the Adreno 320 yet is reported to have a good browsing experience. My unprofessional opinion is that the reason Moto X feels as good as it does is because it uses the same GPU as the S4/HO but has a smaller resolution to power. As we've witnessed as far back as the Galaxy Nexus, you don't need a quad-core to have a snappy experience and that the experience is more GPU-dependent. A lot of N4 users disable 2 of their cores to save on battery power and still have a snappy experience.

Keep it for a year or little bit over that, sell the moto x and buy a new one. Just buy the device now and enjoy. If you think about future proof you can never buy anything. I mean with wearables, flexible screens and so many things going on who knows how the smartphone market will turn out in the near future. Nothing is future proof, Moto X will hold fine at least for a year or 15 months, sure there will be much faster devices than moto x, nexus 5 but that's the case for any phone.
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Not sure what carrier your on but if you can switch to Verizon, you can get the moto x for $50 I believe.
I agree with alpha's statement. We are due for a new battery technology and if that doesn't come soon then I believe the OS makers with be working on optimization of their OS's to increase battery life. Google's direction of lower spec requirements for devices on future of android builds shows this.
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dsimages said:
Not sure what carrier your on but if you can switch to Verizon, you can get the moto x for $50 I believe.
I agree with alpha's statement. We are due for a new battery technology and if that doesn't come soon then I believe the OS makers with be working on optimization of their OS's to increase battery life. Google's direction of lower spec requirements for devices on future of android builds shows this.
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Verizon really? Most of their phones have that ugly Verizon logo branding, full of bloat, last in updates, last or sometimes will not get flagship phones. To top it off useless CDMA.
Sure their network is great but I would any day choose a gsm carrier where at least I can use any phone I want. Why support such a carrier who wants so much control and basically screw customers.
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dsimages said:
Not sure what carrier your on but if you can switch to Verizon, you can get the moto x for $50 I believe.
I agree with alpha's statement. We are due for a new battery technology and if that doesn't come soon then I believe the OS makers with be working on optimization of their OS's to increase battery life. Google's direction of lower spec requirements for devices on future of android builds shows this.
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I'll see with the Nexus 5 first. I'm not a data user and I'm not one of those people who feel compelled to check their Facebook every 2 minutes, so I think I'm good. I'll just UC and run at 50% brightness and that should be good.
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Verizon really? Most of their phones have that ugly Verizon logo branding, full of bloat, last in updates, last or sometimes will not get flagship phones. To top it off useless CDMA.
Sure their network is great but I would any day choose a gsm carrier where at least I can use any phone I want. Why support such a carrier who wants so much control and basically screw customers.
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Sorry guys, I'm not American.
That means I'm stuck with TELUS at least they give you a 10% discount on your monthly bill if you bring an unlocked phone.

Don't forget the fact that Google owns Motorola since last year. They can have Motorola build the phone awesome like they have done for decades and focus their android team better on development for the Motorola phone. To me Google didn't buy one of the all time leading phone manufactures just to keep having asus or lg build their nexus line. The moto x has brought some industry firsts that make a big impact for the user. Something that has not really happened for awhile. Also how future proof are you wanting? This phone will last you 10 years I bet if you wanted it to. It's the mobile computer world, every month a better device and better software comes out to use the hardware, you can't really future proof a mobile phone, just learn to accept that and learn to be happy with whatever device you choose. A good way to decide is do this. Write down on paper the pros and con's that talky matter to you in the phone then add them up on a point system and choose that way.
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dobbs3x said:
Don't forget the fact that Google owns Motorola since last year.
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Since 2k11

I buy nexus phones thinking I'll keep them for two years, but no matter how well the current one is working, I end up going nuts for the new model. Totally fine though as you can recoup a good deal after a year with a nexus phone. I usually end up spending less than $150 upgrading after selling the old one.
Regardless of what a new moto costs me, if they make an x sequel in this same form factor with better battery and a faster processor, I will buy it!
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They announced they were going to purchase Motorola in 2011, but didn't finalize the acquisition until May 2012.
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Cannot understate how much the constant GNex development kept the phone going for 2+years.
Moto X isn't going to benefit in this way. However, having had my phone usage/habits changed by Active Notifications and Voice controls, it will be extremely difficult to move "back" to a phone that doesn't have them; future-proofed or not.

chaoslimits said:
Cannot understate how much the constant GNex development kept the phone going for 2+years.
Moto X isn't going to benefit in this way.
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I agree, but frankly, the model has changed. Google is pushing out many of their updates either through the Play Store, or through updates to the Google Play Services. For instance, with they announced 4.3, many of the improvements highlighted were actually to the Play Services and they were pushed out to all phones running 4.1+.
Back when the GNex was introduced, most updates still had to get pushed through an actual OS upgrade. 2.x/3.x -> 4.x -> 4.1 were all major improvements that affected the core of the OS. 4.1 -> 4.2 -> 4.2.x -> 4.3 -> 4.4 have all been incremental changes, with many of the core features being available through Play Services. I'd go as far as saying the last serious change to the core OS, that really affected the whole user experience, was Project Butter in 4.1.
As much as I like new Android versions, people running on 4.1 are having a very similar user experience to people running on 4.4. They're running many of the same updates through Services or Play Store apps, the UI is consistent, and the performance is still excellent.
Turned into quite a long post, but I had a lot of the same thoughts when I decided to stick with a Moto X instead of getting another Nexus phone. The GNex was really excellent and its lifespan was substantially increased by devs and Project Butter. But I'm getting to a point where a stable phone with an official OS really hits all the notes I need, and with the new upgrade model, not to mention Moto's proactive 4.4 upgrade, I think this phone is going to have a good, long lifespan.

binary visions said:
Turned into quite a long post, but I had a lot of the same thoughts when I decided to stick with a Moto X instead of getting another Nexus phone. The GNex was really excellent and its lifespan was substantially increased by devs and Project Butter. But I'm getting to a point where a stable phone with an official OS really hits all the notes I need, and with the new upgrade model, not to mention Moto's proactive 4.4 upgrade, I think this phone is going to have a good, long lifespan.
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Absolutely! I would have been more than happy to stay on 4.2.2 for a while (although I love the 4.4 battery life increase :good: )

8 Months Later, is it still worth it?

Im due for an upgrade in May, and im debating between the Moto X and the S5 (sadly, i dont see the Z2 coming to ATT, ever) and i was wondering for those who owned one, if you thought it was still worth it. Any opinion is appreciated.
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For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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StATicxTW0T said:
For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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Toxicoblivion said:
Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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If you want all of Samsung's bloat and gimmicky features plus Samsung Knox just to get the "better specs" I'd say go for the gs5. If you look at the at&t note 3 forums especially the development section they don't have much development going on either because of Samsung knox. You want a great phone that's has everyday usefulness go moto x but don't get the carrier branded moto x get the Dev edition. But if you can wait several months the moto x2 might be out.
MOTO X SLAPPED

the moto x is truly wonderful, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.
i would personally wait for the moto x 2.
or the Z2 for that matter, if it does make it to ATT.
the special features are really nice, but i don't feel like its enough of an upgrade over the HTC one.
the camera is pretty mediocre, and so is the screen. the speakers obviously would not be as impressive.
battery would be about the same.
the Z2 on the other hand would improve in many aspects over the One.
so i would wait for the new moto x so you get your moneys worth instead of side-stepping, which might have you dissapointed with your X the minute the new X comes out.

I should also note that i would only really have it for 6 monthsish. I also have an upgrade in december, so yeah.
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well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.

I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.

jakkzen said:
I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Toxicoblivion said:
Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Here is a link to the at&t moto x on swappa. I've seen good deals on there.
http://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-att/us

guybanda said:
well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
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This is probably one of the best responses i could have read. Everybody mentions the new moto phone, but is that even confirmed? And i had an S3 that i modded the hell out of, but i was never really thrilled with it. Its a very important choice, but its nice to see such a good review like this. I promise to keep this all in mind as i make my choice in the next 2 months. thank you sir!
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For those who made custom Moto X's, has any gotten the wood backs/ does anyone know how well they stand up to heat? (Up to 110°F and down to 40°F) Does the back warp or does it stay solid in its form factor?
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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@rbiter said:
My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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How does it stand up to heat changes? Any warping?
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Toxicoblivion said:
Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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I can't speak for the X, but the Maxx is wonderful. I get like 8+ hours of screen on regularly over about 36 hours. I wish it had an IR blaster, but it's not a deal breaker. It's smoother than my S4 is. Especially when updating apps. The s4 will lag while doing that but the Maxx doesn't. Just my 0.02
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@rbiter said:
Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Awesome! Thanks! Glad to hear!
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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GSM/T-Mobile xt1053
StATicxTW0T said:
For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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The GSM/T-Mobile version -- Model # 1053 -- is also a attractive option. Its sim unlocked / unbranded / no bloatware and, unlike the developer edition, it can use the Moto Maker design options. I had both an AT&T version and the GSM version, and ended up selling the AT&T phone. The GSM received the 4.4.2 update weeks ago, but still waiting for the AT&T phone update. Can also tether on AT&T without any special AT&T plan.

kj2112 said:
The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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Yeah know 2.0 might a deal breaker for some people. Helluva an upgrade for peeps coming from s3. Hardly an upgrade from s4. Does seem like it is highest quality galaxy s so far. The camera so far looms great in low light but can't vouche for it til consumers get it. Still kind of disappointing though. It better get spectacular battery life or something.
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6p vs Motorola Z Play Droid?

Hey All! I posted this on the Moto Z forum, and thought I'd do it here. Looking to get some feedback from the community. I have the Nexus 6p and I have an opportunity to swap it out for a gently used Moto Z. Should I do it, and why?
I've owned the Moto X Pure, and the prior two models of the Moto X, so I'm familiar with Moto's features, which are pretty cool. I just don't know if I'd be making a wise trade. I don't do a whole lot of gaming, but I do use it heavily for work/multitasking. I don't know that I would take full advantage of all the Mods, though. I'm also on Verizon, if that matters.
I'm not unhappy with the Nexus 6p at all, it's a fantastic phone, and I love most everything about it. Just wondering if the Moto Z is worth the change?
Any insight you could provide would be most helpful. Thanks!

do you want a daydream compatible phone? if so.. the Droid Z is your friend.. not the 6p.
(pissed because I got the daydream headset when it launched specifically for the 6p)

Weidas said:
Didnt google publicly and loudly told that nexus 6p wont support daydream? Only as developer platform at best, for full support atleast snapdragon 820(or 821) and 7.1 was needed?
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At launch, yes.. (which I didn't see until a few days after buying.. and accidentally tossing the receipt)
at initial annoucement.. no

Thanks for the responses. Eh, VR I don't really care about, honestly. Just looking at what the 'better' phone would be.
Is the SD820 really that much of an upgrade? This 6P has the second generation SD810, and I've not had any thermal issues whatsoever. I actually just played some Final Fantasy IV for about an hour and a half and it didn't get warm, really.
I suppose the moto is a little more future-proof, but I guess the question is - is it really worth it? Especially if I'm not going after the mods...

If no mods I wouldn't....If you like customs ROM then don't do it...I have moto z force and like it..I'm on my 6p right now...My daily is the moto z...To me isn't much different at all but I like the mods
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