Will you be rooting your Nexus 6P? If so, Why?
shotgun10ga said:
Will you be rooting your Nexus 6P? If so, Why?
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Kept mine stock for a few days, really enjoyed the phone in that state, but this is a nexus device, if you're not going to root it you'll miss out on a lot of mods and tweaks.
For me I hate the light theme that comes with the device, same on my previous devices.
Also some of the apps I use require root access, titanium, ad away, custom kernels, to name but a few.
Plus the custom ROMs available are really well made and I'd be missing out if I didn't try any of them..
Flexibility is gained via rooting, it gives you the choices android should offer out the box.
At least that's my opinion anyway.
I rooted because nexus.
I just can't help myself. The first thing I do is unlock the bootloader of a phone if I can. Then root it and flash stuff. Need to pass the time somehow...
Haven't rooted yet. Haven't found a good enough reason to. First phone I haven't rooted.
datdirtyscrew said:
Haven't rooted yet. Haven't found a good enough reason to. First phone I haven't rooted.
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Um layers. That's a pretty good reason. And the crazy amount of mods. And if stock is you're thing cataclysm flashes right over stock and gives you a boat load of options. Allowing you to keep the stock feel and tweak minimal things that make life easier for you.
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toknitup420 said:
Um layers. That's a pretty good reason. And the crazy amount of mods. And if stock is you're thing cataclysm flashes right over stock and gives you a boat load of options. Allowing you to keep the stock feel and tweak minimal things that make life easier for you.
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Stop tempting me. Lol. Maybe I'll look into rooting after the Broncos game. I'm off tomorrow anyway. Lol.
datdirtyscrew said:
Stop tempting me. Lol. Maybe I'll look into rooting after the Broncos game. I'm off tomorrow anyway. Lol.
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Lol.
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Lol.
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can you link me to the modified boot image for the mmb29p?
shotgun10ga said:
can you link me to the modified boot image for the mmb29p?
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/pmgf938s6s1f8ky/boot.img?dl=0
Here you have it.
This will allow twrp and regular root. Non of that systemless root over here.
I take no responsibility should this cause you're device to explode, become unusable(bricked), speed up global warming, or shoot flames at you etc. etc.
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toknitup420 said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pmgf938s6s1f8ky/boot.img?dl=0
Here you have it.
This will allow twrp and regular root. Non of that systemless root over here.
I take no responsibility should this cause you're device to explode, become unusable(bricked), speed up global warming, or shoot flames at you etc. etc.
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one question, if i use systemless root, not the link you gave, can i then install a custom rom? do i even need to root if i want to flash a custom rom right away?
shotgun10ga said:
one question, if i use systemless root, not the link you gave, can i then install a custom rom? do i even need to root if i want to flash a custom rom right away?
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You only need custom recovery for flashing a custom ROM. Most custom roms come pre-rooted with systemless root. So you should only need to flash the ROM. Of course it all depends on which ROM you flash. So just make sure you check if it's rooted or not. Most are rooted though.
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toknitup420 said:
You only need custom recovery for flashing a custom ROM. Most custom roms come pre-rooted with systemless root. So you should only need to flash the ROM. Of course it all depends on which ROM you flash. So just make sure you check if it's rooted or not. Most are rooted though.
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so as soon as i flash twrp i can install nexus project rom?
shotgun10ga said:
so as soon as i flash twrp i can install nexus project rom?
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Yes. Just back up stock ROM first. You still need a modified boot.img to boot stock after installing twrp. So I recommend flashing a modified boot.img(in bootloader using fastboot)for twrp to work. Then take back up. Then flash what ever ROM you want.
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toknitup420 said:
Yes. Just back up stock ROM first. You still need a modified boot.img to boot stock after installing twrp. So I recommend flashing a modified boot.img(in bootloader using fastboot)for twrp to work. Then take back up. Then flash what ever ROM you want.
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can i just use systemless root for the modified boot.img
shotgun10ga said:
can i just use systemless root for the modified boot.img
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I'm not sure. I don't use it. I modify stock boot.img when I flash new image. So I'm on modified boot.img from the start everytime.
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toknitup420 said:
I'm not sure. I don't use it. I modify stock boot.img when I flash new image. So I'm on modified boot.img from the start everytime.
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this is so more complicated than the s6 root method, lol. but can you find out if i can flash a custom rom with systemless root?
shotgun10ga said:
this is so more complicated than the s6 root method, lol. but can you find out if i can flash a custom rom with systemless root?
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Check this guide out. It's very popular and noob friendly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3206934
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toknitup420 said:
Check this guide out. It's very popular and noob friendly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3206934
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thanks one more thing, does twrp need root or modified boot img to work properly if i am going to flash a custom rom right away?
shotgun10ga said:
thanks one more thing, does twrp need root or modified boot img to work properly if i am going to flash a custom rom right away?
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If you flash custom ROM right after flashing twrp then you should be OK
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Ok I am full rooted thanks to un-revoked.
I have downloaded the new update on my phone but havent installed yet, Battery was to low so gave me a notification in status bar to update later.
I understand i have to flash to the Amon ra recovery.
all i want is the stock rom, with the ability to use wireless tether and adfree, so obviously i need superuser permission.
Will i have to flash to a stock rooted rom?? or will i just be able to install these and be good to go?? is there even a stock rooted rom out yet??
Thanks for any and help. love the site dont post much cause normally i can figure things out, but wanna double check on this one.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Make back up and perform full wipes.
You must install the rooted Rom for precautionary reasons.
so should i even update my phone then?? or should i just flash right to one of these?? seems like it would be easier just flashing right too those since i currently have clockwork installed.
drew454u said:
so should i even update my phone then?? or should i just flash right to one of these?? seems like it would be easier just flashing right too those since i currently have clockwork installed.
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Flash the odexed or deodexed versions and enjoy.
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drew454u said:
so should i even update my phone then?? or should i just flash right to one of these?? seems like it would be easier just flashing right too those since i currently have clockwork installed.
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Simple answer is NO YOU SHOULD NOT DO THE OTA... The rom is out there already (rooted versions)
novanosis85 said:
Flash the odexed or deodexed versions and enjoy.
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Whats the difference in them?? and do i have to flash a kernel also?? not gonna lie i have never flashed a different rom before. never had a need too really.
drew454u said:
Whats the difference in them?? and do i have to flash a kernel also?? not gonna lie i have never flashed a different rom before. never had a need too really.
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No difference really. Just flash the odexed version and that is all. No kernel needed.
I'm not familiar with cwmod so I can't guide you through the flash but also you need to have an updated version.
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novanosis85 said:
No difference really. Just flash the odexed version and that is all. No kernel needed.
I'm not familiar with cwmod so I can't guide you through the flash but also you need to have an updated version.
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ok thank you sir, much appreciated.
drew454u said:
ok thank you sir, much appreciated.
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Flash Amon on your phone download odex version and flash thru recovery
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All I did was wiped everything and flashed the rooted update Rom using amon recovery. Now I a running the same thing as th ota and I'm still rooted. That's the easiest and safest option u have.
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I can't find a simple answer on this. I just want to root my stock ROM, can't be done without unlocking the bootloader, but will I lose OTA if I do that.
Thanks
You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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Sweet. I have root, stock recovery. no problemo
scream4cheese said:
You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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There was another thread on here about the same topic where someone said that even with a custom recovery you can install the update and that CWM will ask if you want to keep root after installing the OTA.
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You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
ace7196 said:
What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
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Confirmed. You do get updates when using CWM.
Install "OTA Rootkeeper" and you will keep your root after updates.
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sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Seems so.
it is phone encryption gonna work after root?
yes, no reason why not?
ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Hi Ultimul, did you try rooting finally and are you receiving the OTA after rooting and with CWM.
Advice me as I have the same ambition to root just to back up app data but not install custom rom.
I'd like to enable the encryption, and I've been told you need stock recovery for that. How can I root the N4 and install CM10.1 but keep the stock recovery, and encryption working? To add extra complexity, I only have access to OS X 10.8.2 at home and at work.
Thanks!
PS: Please make this n00b friendly.
fbiryujin said:
I'd like to enable the encryption, and I've been told you need stock recovery for that. How can I root the N4 and install CM10.1 but keep the stock recovery, and encryption working? To add extra complexity, I only have access to OS X 10.8.2 at home and at work.
Thanks!
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Not sure about the encryption part, that would be the first time I have ever heard that. Why you would need a stock recovery? But you can fastboot boot recovery instead of fastboot flash the recovery.
fbiryujin said:
I'd like to enable the encryption, and I've been told you need stock recovery for that. How can I root the N4 and install CM10.1 but keep the stock recovery, and encryption working? To add extra complexity, I only have access to OS X 10.8.2 at home and at work.
Thanks!
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No way buddy!
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No way buddy!
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So you can't have a custom rom and still use the encryption?
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fbiryujin said:
So you can't have a custom rom and still use the encryption?
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No, you can`t have a custom rom and stock recovery. You need custom recovery to flash custom rom....
BigDig said:
No, you can`t have a custom rom and stock recovery. You need custom recovery to flash custom rom....
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I believe that is incorrect. You can fastboot boot recovery instead of fastboot flash recovery then flash whatever you want afaik anyway. I have never used fastboot boot for anything other then to flash the su zip but i see no reason why it wouldnt work. The real question is why would you want to?
I want to have the full encryption enabled since this is a work device but. I heard it doesn't work with custom recovery.
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BigDig said:
No, you can`t have a custom rom and stock recovery. You need custom recovery to flash custom rom....
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fbiryujin said:
I want to have the full encryption enabled since this is a work device but. I heard it doesn't work with custom recovery.
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I have been told twrp does support it thou its still untested. The dev doesn't have a nexus 4 to test with but he did say it works on the n7
regardless thou, all that would mean is you might not be able to backup a rom thats encrypted if twrp don't work. It has nothing to do with anything else. you cant make a backup on a stock recovery anyway
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i have been told twrp does support it thou its still untested. The dev doesnt have a nexus 4 to test with but he did say it works on the n7
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Ok I'll try it and see what happens. Thanks
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I will be trading my iphone 5 on Monday for a Verizon G2 On the 12B build. I have been out of the android thing for a year now. I know how to root the phone but the Loki and recovery stuff is very new to me.
Main questions are how do I install a recovery that bypasses the boot loader and allows full flashing. TWRP is preferable but if CWM is better on this phone that's fine. What is Loki exactly and once I install a a Loki recovery can I install any kernels/ ROMs that I want? Please provide me with a step by step and links to stuff you think I need to know. I really appreciate your help.
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Last android I had was a Razr Maxx so I am used to safe strap. This seems very different.
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SimsDelt said:
Last android I had was a Razr Maxx so I am used to safe strap. This seems very different.
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You can flash custom roms and recovery without thinking about the bootloader. It's supposedly locked, but nothing to worry about.
Just root, flash custom recovery and flash custom rom. Any recovery will do, and TWRP is my favourite as well
If you decide you want to root and put a custom recovery on it there are two things to consider.
1. NEVER accept an OTA update. Not even if it promises you two tickets to the land of the unicorns. Don't!
2. Back up everything. And your EFS partition. And save it. Not on your device. Heck, make 5 copies and put one copy on an USB-dongle, another on your computer, the third under your bed, the fourth in your wallet and make a bank account in Switzerland for the fifth. The EFS partition contains crucial informations about your device. If you by accident delete it when flashing a custom rom, you turned your phone into a 5.2 inch tablet. And there's no way of getting it back. You might never need it, but if you do, you will thank yourself for having made that backup!
Thanks for the info. What way do you recommend to flash recovery? GooManager or other app. Or some other method? and also do you use your recovery to backup the efs partition or something else?
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SimsDelt said:
Thanks for the info. What way do you recommend to flash recovery? GooManager or other app. Or some other method? and also do you use your recovery to backup the efs partition or something else?
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I personally haven't rooted this G2 yet, but TWRP offers the ability to back up your EFS.
Have a look here for backing up EFS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451390
You can use flashify to install TWRP, should be pretty easy and straightforward
Great. Is there a thread here on using flashify? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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SimsDelt said:
Great. Is there a thread here on using flashify? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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There might be. Check this out though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJI9ThY0mk
Ok. Thanks. I googled it too and found a thread elsewhere with a step by step
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SimsDelt said:
Ok. Thanks. I googled it too and found a thread elsewhere with a step by step
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I guess if you flash a custom rom then that will cure the OTA issue
Hi All,
I just rooted my verizon G2 using ioroot19 and the instructions from the dev thread. When I then used clockwork rom manager to flash the vs980 verson of clockworkmod recovery. The flash said it worked but when I tried to get in I got the android with the red! I then followed the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670 both methods 1 and 2, but now all I get when I try to get into recovery is a black screen. The phone still boots fine, but nothing seems to work for the recovery.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Don't use rom manager. It doesn't work on our phones. Use flashify or freegee to install a recovery
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tdevaughn said:
Don't use rom manager. It doesn't work on our phones. Use flashify or freegee to install a recovery
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When I flash TWRP with Freegee. Will my phone still be able to boot into my stock ROM or will I only boot into recovery and need to flash a ROM?
Do you prefer Freegee or Flashify?
You can boot into your stock rom
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Do I need to Backup my EFS before flashing TWRP or after?
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Do I need to Backup my EFS before flashing TWRP or after?
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After mate, you can do it from TWRP
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I will be trading my iphone 5 on Monday for a Verizon G2 On the 12B build. I have been out of the android thing for a year now. I know how to root the phone but the Loki and recovery stuff is very new to me.
Main questions are how do I install a recovery that bypasses the boot loader and allows full flashing. TWRP is preferable but if CWM is better on this phone that's fine. What is Loki exactly and once I install a a Loki recovery can I install any kernels/ ROMs that I want? Please provide me with a step by step and links to stuff you think I need to know. I really appreciate your help.
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Use freegee. it will do the trick on a rooted phone. It is made by Shelnutt2. You can use the free or paid version but the paid version is cheap and you will support future development.
It is one of the best ways of installing TWRP/CWM on the LG G2.
Paid version (use this one)
Free version
Freegee worked great. Thanks!
So, I'm rooted, but haven't installed any custom roms yet since they all seem to have lots of bugs.
Basically, once M drops, I won't be able to install an OTA update, right? So how will I be able to just run rooted stock, like I am now?
Realize I should probably just cross that bridge when I get to it, but thanks in advance
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Cowbell_Guy said:
So, I'm rooted, but haven't installed any custom roms yet since they all seem to have lots of bugs.
Basically, once M drops, I won't be able to install an OTA update, right? So how will I be able to just run rooted stock, like I am now?
Realize I should probably just cross that bridge when I get to it, but thanks in advance
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You will get the OTA but it will not get installed on your phone as you have modified system. I was also on Stock Rooted but i had the Nandroid backup of my unmodified system i.e. the backup before i flashed the SuperSU zip. If you also have the backup of you system that you can restore it and flash the stock recovery , then you will be good to go for MM update.
Hmmm... What if I didn't save the backup of my stock unrooted?
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There will be a stock rooted rom posted once OTA is released, you flash it just like any other rom. You might need to flash updated firmware as well.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Hmmm... What if I didn't save the backup of my stock unrooted?
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You can use the restore to stock tool.
If you have flashed TWRP just restore stock recovery and ota should work then. The reason it would fail other wise is because it is detecting the non-stock recovery. Having an unlocked bootloader shouldn't matter though don't take my word on that.
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Orion116 said:
If you have flashed TWRP just restore stock recovery and ota should work then. The reason it would fail other wise is because it is detecting the non-stock recovery. Having an unlocked bootloader shouldn't matter though don't take my word on that.
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OP says that he has rooted his stock ROM. So i guess he has to restore whole system.
are you sure its not going to take the OTA, in my past experience which dates way back ( been a nexus warrior for years now) you can apply the update as long as you haven't modified anything with the stock apps, so if you removed any of the google office like apps then it would fail. but if you just rooted and just did stuff like greenify or titanium backup it would work
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So, I'm rooted, but haven't installed any custom roms yet since they all seem to have lots of bugs.
Basically, once M drops, I won't be able to install an OTA update, right? So how will I be able to just run rooted stock, like I am now?
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No, you won't be able to install an OTA update, because you're rooted (and have a custom recovery, like TWRP).
When Marshmallow becomes available, you'll either flash an update like any other ROM. Or, you can restore your phone to stock condition (using Restore to Stock tool), and then get an OTA update from there.
In either case, always assume worst-case scenario where you'll lose all your data; and will need to reload applications + data after the update, however you choose to get it done.
Seems like it would be easiest to just flash a zip file. Will there be an official one?
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Seems like it would be easiest to just flash a zip file. Will there be an official one?
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Sure there will be one sooner than later. Just probably not same day as it might come out. Just takes devs a couple days and I can bet they will have a stock rooted rom to flash. I am in same boat. I don't want to take the jump to the early indian build. Just seems to buggy atm. Just have to have patience. Devs work wonders and for that I thank them.
Full unroot with supersu will it work?
On my 2013 X I was able to take the OTA. There are two main concerns:
Xposed will need to be removed if it is installed. There used to be a zip you could flash, but here are manual instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58964632&postcount=2262
TWRP will need to be replaced with the stock recovery, else the update will put you into a boot loop.
I did not have to remove the SuperSU binaries or re-flash system, but if you have the time it is the safest option.
OK, so now its real... What have you all been doing?
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