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(Camera Comparison) AM7 vs Sony Xperia Z2 - I own both

I really enjoy the Z2 camera experience but the slow shutter speed when using the on screen button started to bug me. I was intending on buying the Nexus 6 or Note 4 but they both left me feeling underwhelmed so I decided on the AM7.
In this thread I will be taking photos every opportunity I can and posting them here.
All photos will have the AM7 first and the Z2 second for continuity.
Auto mode or superior auto (Z2) will be used at all times and regardless of what anyone has to say about auto modes that's what most people use!
I will post from either phone when I can so every upload will be from the XDA app.
Please keep comments constructive
Any trolling or unacceptable comments will be reported to the moderator.
Enjoy the pics

AM7 is the first photo and the Z2 is the second one on both photos.
The photos were taken at 2330hrs with only an overhead standard bulb.
I describe these conditions as dingy at best. No flash used and auto mode used for both photos.

ipmanwck said:
AM7 is the first photo and the Z2 is the second one on both photos.
The photos were taken at 2330hrs with only an overhead standard bulb.
I describe these conditions as dingy at best. No flash used and auto mode used for both photos.
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In ur opinion which phone is better ?

hannanzikrea said:
In ur opinion which phone is better ?
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Need more time. Only had the phone for a day.
From first impressions shutter speed is amazingly fast like iphone 6 fast or htc one. Low light pictures display some noise but the z2 does also. Framerate of camera app is similar to z2 so that's a good thing. More testing required but the handset is extremely high end and happy I went with this rather than nexus 6 or Note 4.
Screen and brightness is great and speaker is very loud indeed!

Nice looking forward to other comparisons
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Yes, looks very good i'm gonna test it too

All additional photos would be greatly appreciated.
Let's keep this thread professional. Lots more photos taken today in bad light. I must say I am impressed. I was very worried about the camera from what reviews had said but it's a good sensor and looks like huawei did a good thing by not using too much processing etc.

I have more z2 photos but decide to sell it and keep my AM7 so you can find more of my photos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970
I will be uploading more comparisons but not immediately

People are complaining about Huawei's poor cameras but these photos are comparable to any phone. Not so bad.
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mirchichamu said:
People are complaining about Huawei's poor cameras but these photos are comparable to any phone. Not so bad.
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These people who are saying the camera is bad are talking rubbish I took some amazing shots today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970 I am using the European model so no idea if its different to the chinese version

ipmanwck said:
These people who are saying the camera is bad are talking rubbish I took some amazing shots today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970 I am using the European model so no idea if its different to the chinese version
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Thanks. My worries are now removed regarding camera. I am going to order one soon. Good luck.
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Is the camera this bad?

I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?

Bought the phone because previous one was stolen few days before I went traveling in China. Been more than happy with the pictures it takes. Panorama is cool too. It struggled with low light, but it improving noticably with every update.
Uploaded a few pics from a national park in China for you. You be the judge. All pics were made with auto mode.
https://apexalpha.stackstorage.com/index.php/s/NZeWb0ifRNf02aM
I have to say though. The iPhone costs $300 more. If you care so much go for the Galaxy S7 for camera (and Android)

Actually not that bad
I remember hearing tons of negative reviews on the camera and being worried that it wasn't going to be that good but after using the phone for about a week I can honestly say the camera is pretty good. It does struggle a bit in low light, though but that's simply because of the amount of megapixels. In my opinion, some reviewers are just a bit picky

memo45 said:
I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
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I'm coming from a Nexus 6P and the Axon 7 camera just doesn't compare, especially in low light. The 6P had a great camera. That being said, since B27 came out things have improved noticeably and while the camera still isn't ad good as the 6P, it's more usable now and does produce decent enough shots in low and pretty good ones in good light.
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Low light scenes are very challenging for the camera. ZTE really need to improve the HDR processing, where it can't touch 2015's Nexus phones and where it trails the much cheaper Honor 7.
There's not much sun where I am and I'm really noticing the difference.
You can certainly get better-looking results by playing with white balance in manual mode but that won't help you if you want to snap a darker foreground without blowing out all the background detail - a trick the Nexus phones' HDR+ excels at. I know they are deadly slow but I'd be happy to put up with much longer exposure times if it meant better pictures.

Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen

memo45 said:
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?

kidnova said:
There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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At least where I live?

Could someone Post some selfies?

Mate 8 camera?

Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?

Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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Unless you need a phone desperately, why not wait on the Mate 9? It`ll be out soon with supposedly a much better camera.
Fwiw, i passed on the 8 because of its camera and UI. Loved everything else though.

vapotrini said:
Unless you need a phone desperately, why not wait on the Mate 9? It`ll be out soon with supposedly a much better camera.
Fwiw, i passed on the 8 because of its camera and UI. Loved everything else though.
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My lg g4 had bootloop problem, i cant wait till m9 , anyone could tell me how m8 camera compares with LG g4 camera?

Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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I think the camera is pretty good, for a pinhole camera. The problem a LOT of people have is they don't know how to take a photograph.
I don't care if it does have OIS, you still need to hold the device STILL. I've been a photographer for over 40 years. If you don't hold it still,
your photo will look like crap. Also, people will shoot into the light, blame the camera, shoot in dark light, blame the camera.
Also, first thing I do when I get a new phone, is DITCH the camera app and use Camera FV-5, which gives you more control over the photo.
People are quick to blame the phone/camera, when 1/2 the time, it's the person pushing the shutter that is the real problem.

p51d007 said:
I think the camera is pretty good, for a pinhole camera. The problem a LOT of people have is they don't know how to take a photograph.
I don't care if it does have OIS, you still need to hold the device STILL. I've been a photographer for over 40 years. If you don't hold it still,
your photo will look like crap. Also, people will shoot into the light, blame the camera, shoot in dark light, blame the camera.
Also, first thing I do when I get a new phone, is DITCH the camera app and use Camera FV-5, which gives you more control over the photo.
People are quick to blame the phone/camera, when 1/2 the time, it's the person pushing the shutter that is the real problem.
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do you have a personal experience with the camera? i used G4 before. camera on that was pretty good.

I'd say the camera on the Mate 8 is fine. Go ahead and pick it up.

ShadowCodeGaming said:
I'd say the camera on the Mate 8 is fine. Go ahead and pick it up.
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Appreciate it

Demitha said:
do you have a personal experience with the camera? i used G4 before. camera on that was pretty good.
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I've been using the mate8 for almost a month now. For a camera phone, it does pretty well.

p51d007 said:
I've been using the mate8 for almost a month now. For a camera phone, it does pretty well.
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Awesome, Buying tomorrow.

İ used lg g4 and 950xl before this both were great camera phones, ofc they were better than mate 8 but i cant say mate have a bad camera it is quite decent i think
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Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Citroen
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Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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I returned my G4 to Amazon after 7 months, it was already giving signs of bootloop... And I took a Mate 8 with the money... I want to be sincere, the phone is Awesome, above all the battery... But the media part is far from being comparable. The camera does below average quality photos during the day, but with low light You'll see a lot of noise... Plus the standard click and shoot sometimes fails to focus where you want... The video are better BUT if you film a concert the audio will be pure crap.

bellbill said:
Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Citroen
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I returned my G4 to Amazon after 7 months, it was already giving signs of bootloop... And I took a Mate 8 with the money... I want to be sincere, the phone is Awesome, above all the battery... But the media part is far from being comparable. The camera does below average quality photos during the day, but with low light You'll see a lot of noise... Plus the standard click and shoot sometimes fails to focus where you want... The video are better BUT if you film a concert the audio will be pure crap.
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hope the android 7 update fix all this problems, i hear the beta is already out.

Demitha said:
My lg g4 had bootloop problem, i cant wait till m9 , anyone could tell me how m8 camera compares with LG g4 camera?
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G4 camera is way ahead, unfortunately. That's not to say the Mate8's camera is really bad, but it's not as good as the one in the G4.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought the G4's photos were full of noise when you zoom in, and I'm really happy with the Mate 8's photos. I particularly appreciate the automatic sharpening that the Huawei does by taking multiple photos and combining the information. (You can see this happens when it says "sharpening photo, hold the camera steady". It takes about half a second, and it only happens in low light photos.)
The G4 also really bothered me in that it turned on its "beautify" setting all by itself, no matter how many times I turned it off. It made me look like a goddam barbie doll--any photo taken with that setting was worthless and had to be discarded.
On the other hand, I've never had a serious complaint about the Mate 8's camera.

fenstre said:
Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought the G4's photos were full of noise when you zoom in, and I'm really happy with the Mate 8's photos. I particularly appreciate the automatic sharpening that the Huawei does by taking multiple photos and combining the information. (You can see this happens when it says "sharpening photo, hold the camera steady". It takes about half a second, and it only happens in low light photos.)
The G4 also really bothered me in that it turned on its "beautify" setting all by itself, no matter how many times I turned it off. It made me look like a goddam barbie doll--any photo taken with that setting was worthless and had to be discarded.
On the other hand, I've never had a serious complaint about the Mate 8's camera.
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Beauty filter on the Mate8 also auto-enables.
G4 camera simply is better, due to the larger sensor.
But as this is a Huawei thread only the positive things count I guess.

Hey mate 8 users, today i went to the shop but the mate 8 was out of juice, shop owner plugged the device in to the charger after 5 mins of charging device didn't turn on, this went on for 20 mins, after about 30 mins he could start it, soon as power came on i tried to check the camera, device powered down soon as i open the camera. is this normal?

ANyone?

A normal mate 8 works perfectly without any issues.

Pfeffernuss said:
Beauty filter on the Mate8 also auto-enables.
G4 camera simply is better, due to the larger sensor.
But as this is a Huawei thread only the positive things count I guess.
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1) Thanks, didn't know that. My usage patterns must have changed. I didn't realize I stopped taking selfies with girls.
2) It may have a larger sensor size, but the firmware is inferior. See my comments about pixelation on the G4 versus multi-image sharpening on the Mate 8.
3) Only positive things count? Aren't I the only one that said anything negative about the LG G4 camera? The bias is on your side of the court, not mine. I suggest you don't go into data analysis.

fenstre said:
1) Thanks, didn't know that. My usage patterns must have changed. I didn't realize I stopped taking selfies with girls.
2) It may have a larger sensor size, but the firmware is inferior. See my comments about pixelation on the G4 versus multi-image sharpening on the Mate 8.
3) Only positive things count? Aren't I the only one that said anything negative about the LG G4 camera? The bias is on your side of the court, not mine. I suggest you don't go into data analysis.
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your saying mate 8 camera is better than G4? mate 8 photos looks washed out dont they? very soft, co lours are not poping like g4.

Xiaomi Mi5s Plus Camera Review - A Dual-camera Monster?

Hi,
I could not find the Mi5s Plus thread, so posting my in-depth Xiaomi Mi5s Plus camera review here:
Mod Edit: Link removed.
I hope you guys like it!
Cheers,
Linus

I've the phone now and camera is a let down.
Stereo mode is very slow
No bokeh mode
Pictures are very grainy/noisy

ksekhar said:
I've the phone now and camera is a let down.
Stereo mode is very slow
No bokeh mode
Pictures are very grainy/noisy
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Where did you buy it from? Can you send it back?

Thanks for the great review! Very helpful.
I really am incredibly tempted by this phone, after hovering with my finger on the checkout button for a couple of days I decided to hold off.
1. The Mi Note 2 due to be announced in 5 days is shaping up very interestingly and may not be too different a price point
2. There's still no TWRP. The standard 5s had a port in a few days but the delay and lack of outrage makes me cautious there's not going to be much active development outside of MIUI and coming from a Redmi Note 2 I wouldn't mind a change.

ermacwins said:
Where did you buy it from? Can you send it back?
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Got it from honorbuy.com
Not sure if I can send back as there's no manufacturing defect with the phone it's just that camera sucks.
Bought it for camera but noisy and no bokeh is a deal breaker
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HDR, auto and stereo mode in that order. I have to say HDR is very slow. If you shake during the photo process you'll have blurred picture. You'll notice auto is noisy!

I am thinking to change g4 (bootloop issue) with one of Xiaomi phones. Was very tempted to buy 5s plus or 5s but will settle with MI5 Pro....

Why you getting mi5 pro?

ermacwins said:
Why you getting mi5 pro?
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- reduced price since "S" has been launched
- there is a very little difference between S820 and 821
- memory is the same
- screen is the same
- camera is not that good at all on "S"- no OIS, artifacts in some reviews in video, focus issues...

Gregzi said:
- reduced price since "S" has been launched
- there is a very little difference between S820 and 821
- memory is the same
- screen is the same
- camera is not that good at all on "S"- no OIS, artifacts in some reviews in video, focus issues...
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How much are you paying for it?
The EIS isn't that bad. I'm guessing the camera can improve with updates. The Google Pixel has the same sensor and its a very good camera

ksekhar said:
I've the phone now and camera is a let down.
Stereo mode is very slow
No bokeh mode
Pictures are very grainy/noisy
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Why not open the phone and replace the dual cams with dual imx378 modules? Is it possible?

Ahm_Shoaib said:
Why not open the phone and replace the dual cams with dual imx378 modules? Is it possible?
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prying open a phone to replace cameras is not fun (at least not for me) and there is a very little guarantee that it would work as firmware needs to be adapted. Better live with it or get phone you love (tested Huawai Honor phones and they have awesome dual cameras) than getting stuck with one you dont like

Ther's an app compatible with this camera? The stock can't Save raw photo..

ksekhar said:
Got it from honorbuy.com
Not sure if I can send back as there's no manufacturing defect with the phone it's just that camera sucks.
Bought it for camera but noisy and no bokeh is a deal breaker
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HDR, auto and stereo mode in that order. I have to say HDR is very slow. If you shake during the photo process you'll have blurred picture. You'll notice auto is noisy!
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Someone told it can't have Bokeh because one of the captor is monochrome but now the Huawei mate 9 is out and it has Bokeh with a monochrome captor so maybe Bokeh will come in a software update?! I want that too.

Has anybody seen Meizu Pro 6 capabilities in real life?
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It seems you are posting on the wrong section

EMJI79 said:
Someone told it can't have Bokeh because one of the captor is monochrome but now the Huawei mate 9 is out and it has Bokeh with a monochrome captor so maybe Bokeh will come in a software update?! I want that too.
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I just noticed that Bokeh is available in Redmi Pro when using Stereo mode. How Xiaomi fixes this for Mi5s plus.

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No not exactly. I wasn't referring to actually talk about Meizu Pro 6 device but as others have been talking about DOF bokeh etc. I just wanted to point people at checking how they've done it on the Pro 6 device. The DOF seems to be so very good that you'd feel you've got a DSLR with f2.0 lens. At least it seems so impressive. I'm not sure about bokeh in such situation. Wehther they've simulated round diaphragm or any other shape. I suppose a completely round one would be the simplest and would also look best and most professional as more expensive pro lenses use diphragms with many more blades than cheap ones (5 or 6). And these become apparent in bokeh situation.

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No not exactly. I wasn't referring to actually talk about Meizu Pro 6 device but as others have been talking about DOF bokeh etc. I just wanted to point people at checking how they've done it on the Pro 6 device. The DOF seems to be so very good that you'd feel you've got a DSLR with f2.0 lens. At least it seems so impressive. I'm not sure about bokeh in such situation. Wehther they've simulated round diaphragm or any other shape. I suppose a completely round one would be the simplest and would also look best and most professional as more expensive pro lenses use diphragms with many more blades than cheap ones (5 or 6). And these become apparent in bokeh situation.
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You're playing with words

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You're playing with words
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? Really? Which sentence exactly seems to be a play of words? I surely didn't intend to do so. I don't own a Meizu device. Eagerly waiting for my Mi 5S though.

If you still doubt the camera, well...

If you have any doubts, especially with low light, well, don't. This is by far the best phone cam I've seen, ever. But that's my opinion if course. All shot in auto mode. Of course, when you blow m up they get grainy and such but if you keep 'm small while viewing the colors, lighting and the whole scene is captured beautifully.

And one more

Very good pictures! I do like the camera on this badboy...

Wow very nice! :good:
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Does suppose to look blurry. That's what all my still imagines look like

Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often

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Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often
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Yeah. Wish it had dual pixel focus like the s7

Yes, the dpaf would be awesome. That is the only thing this is missing. Truly remarkable camera, though, even given that.

My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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anilhk said:
My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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Because it's not as good as the S7's camera, especially in low-light.

i would say they are different. I found the ability to play around with Depth of Field ana amazing tool to create far more professional pictures. But in low light the shots are noisier. so for poitn and shoot / get a picture every time the s7 edge (and iphone) are better in low light. But in good light they are comparable, while the ability to play around with bokeh is amazing.

Try manual mode in low light. Also, make sure you keep your hands as steady as possible... this camera is great, but not quite at the top.

Well if you need more evidence, these are my first shots from the UK version of the Mate 9. Epic.
Here's my first sample of photos from the Mate 9 UK version camera. We really need the software update soon as this improves the quality and features of the camera too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/18/huawei-mate-9-stunning-photos-from-the-camera/
And my first impressions if you're interested. Full review soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/17/huawei-mate-9-first-impressions-via-vlog/

^very nice pictures! Does it have HDR+ ?

Excellent photos. Sometimes wonder why to carry that heavy SLR anymore. Maybe from now I should permanently mount telephoto lense on it and let the Mate 9 takes all the wides.

Some more shots from yesterday. Simply stunning camera !!
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/20/huawei-mate-9-more-superb-photos-from-the-camera/

Indeed - wonderful pictures!

Not as good as s7 or pixel camera, but it's still a good camera. 2016 set the bar high for mobile photography and it feels like Huawei are still finding their feet and playing catch up somewhat.
Still though I'm not looking back at the s7. The Mate 9 camera is good enough for my purposes and it beats the s7 and s7 edge in other areas, while also being cheaper than the edge in my country.
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It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/

gavinfabl said:
It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/
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Love it.