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[Q] Looking for specific features in a ROM

I've so far have spent two days with my new GS4, have to admit, I'm loving it.
This isn't my first time rooting and installing custom roms, coming from the misaligned and abandoned Photon 4G.
Normally I consider any software put on by a manufacturer on top of stock android to be bloatware, and should be removed with prejudice. However the air gestures, watch on, and some of the other things Samsung had put in, actually seemed like they cared, which is surprising to me (you'd understand if you knew the saga my MoPho had went through)
So basically right now I'm torn between running a debloated stock image, and PAC, which I loved on my old phone.
What would really make my day, and would set this device for it's life span, if there was a way to have a phablet UI on a stock image.

so far it looks like PAC is gonna be your best bet as far as obtaining a phablet UI via PA prefs.....lucky for you we already have it on our phone. ive flashed the majority of the roms available now and thats the closest ive come.

xxaddictedxx said:
so far it looks like PAC is gonna be your best bet as far as obtaining a phablet UI via PA prefs.....lucky for you we already have it on our phone. ive flashed the majority of the roms available now and thats the closest ive come.
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Yeah. Ive been running PAC for a while now, It'll probably be a daily driver once I get a few bugs I ran into worked out.

dont know if you have seen this yet or not but it seems like your request was answered
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316314

Android 6.0

Hi,
I'm new to OnePlus, got my OPT last Monday.
Coming from a Nexus 5, I'm used to getting new versions of Android quickly.
For those with experience with OnePlus, how fast can we expect to get a version of 6.0 on our OPT ?
Thanks !

It took the quite a while (several months) to push official lollipop builds to the one... Hopefully they are quicker this time. Custom builds will probably be available much sooner
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Theberge43 said:
Hi,
I'm new to OnePlus, got my OPT last Monday.
Coming from a Nexus 5, I'm used to getting new versions of Android quickly.
For those with experience with OnePlus, how fast can we expect to get a version of 6.0 on our OPT ?
Thanks !
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on my OPO, i received the update to lollipop almost a year after it was introduced on the first handsets. and when I got it, i switched to CM (community version) as they had tinckered to much with stuff like the default/built-in e-mail app.
I have already switched to CM (beta) for my OPT, because i did not like OxygenOS

sdmark said:
It took the quite a while (several months) to push official lollipop builds to the one... Hopefully they are quicker this time. Custom builds will probably be available much sooner
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Yes, I figured I'll have custom ROM & Kernel (I'm on AK already just for color calibration).
What were the best ROMs on OPO ? Do you think we'll have good developers on the OPT ?

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Theberge43 said:
Yes, I figured I'll have custom ROM & Kernel (I'm on AK already just for color calibration).
What were the best ROMs on OPO ? Do you think we'll have good developers on the OPT ?
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I have only used cyanogenmod on my devices, nothing else. So I cannot say if one ROM should be better than another.
Regarding OPT, it would be great to reach a point where there could be an officially supported version of cyanogenmod

How do you like the OPT so far? I'm a long time Nexus user, but after a drop device my N5 is now dead which has me looking for a new phone. I was looking at the OPT and almost pulled the trigger on one, but after reading about the Oxygen OS it seems like a pretty buggy OS. How do you feel about the OS coming from the stock (I assume) android experience on the N5?
Cheers

I was a fellow Nexus fanboy who switched to the OPT. The Oxygen OS definitely has its pros and cons, but I believe the OnePlus team will send some OTA's here and there to address the issues. Alternatively, with Grarak porting over CM to the OPT so quickly, I use CM as a daily driver. The OxygenOS has a lot of great features which are not included in stock Android experience. Overall, the OPT in my opinion is well worth it.
ntagger said:
How do you like the OPT so far? I'm a long time Nexus user, but after a drop device my N5 is now dead which has me looking for a new phone. I was looking at the OPT and almost pulled the trigger on one, but after reading about the Oxygen OS it seems like a pretty buggy OS. How do you feel about the OS coming from the stock (I assume) android experience on the N5?
Cheers
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For now I still miss more development options, but the phone is nice. I'm sure development will pick up with Oneplus getting their logistics have together and getting more devices out there.
For me all the negative press is mostly fan boys not getting their invite quickly.
The size takes time to adjust to, but Oxygen with Xposed and AK kernel is pretty sweet right now!
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ripv2 said:
I was a fellow Nexus fanboy who switched to the OPT. The Oxygen OS definitely has its pros and cons, but I believe the OnePlus team will send some OTA's here and there to address the issues. Alternatively, with Grarak porting over CM to the OPT so quickly, I use CM as a daily driver. The OxygenOS has a lot of great features which are not included in stock Android experience. Overall, the OPT in my opinion is well worth it.
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Oxygen defiantly sounds and look great, but I was just a bit put away when I read the OP forums about the bugs... but as with most of these things, it's the people who are unhappy that are loudest.
Theberge43 said:
For now I still miss more development options, but the phone is nice. I'm sure development will pick up with Oneplus getting their logistics have together and getting more devices out there.
For me all the negative press is mostly fan boys not getting their invite quickly.
The size takes time to adjust to, but Oxygen with Xposed and AK kernel is pretty sweet right now!
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Sorry, for hi-jacking your thread about 6.0 for the OPT. I was actually looking for a bigger screen so 5.5" seemed to be a good middle ground. I've only been able to play around with the OPT with the hydrogen OS (I live in Hong Kong),and I liked the size of the phone but not Hydrogen OS.

Im looking forward to android 6, hope its good for op2. With any phone ive had, 5 has been v poor compared to 4.4.2 (battery life and performace), hope 6 can shine for us

ntagger said:
Sorry, for hi-jacking your thread about 6.0 for the OPT. I was actually looking for a bigger screen so 5.5" seemed to be a good middle ground. I've only been able to play around with the OPT with the hydrogen OS (I live in Hong Kong),and I liked the size of the phone but not Hydrogen OS.
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I know 5.5 is now the middle ground, I'm just saying that coming from a Nexus 5 for the last 2 years, the jump is not that easy. I'm sure I'll be fine after a while. But right now, one handed use is difficult for me (and I have somewhat big hands), especially with the lower buttons at the bottom (I went back to on screen navigation bar).

[Q] What Happened to this phone?

Let's be honest to ourselves here guys, out beloved Moto X Style was officially released in September which means this phone has now been out for at least 3 months and while all the effort that has since been put in this devices by key developers and people from day 1 up till now is very much appreciated and will continue to be appreciated, the development of this device compared to most flagships has been slow motion.
I am just trying to understand what the hell went wrong with this phone that made it end up with such super slow motion development, as when I originally bought the device I was thinking this phone would be at least in the top 20 most active phones on XDA development wise.
It had so much going for it, easy root, easy unlockable bootloader, a pretty much almost complete stock version of android, kernel sources released and motorolas good track record of updating their flagship phones in a timely manner and good hardware to accompany the great bloatware free stock software and a cheap price compared to some other flagships from other companies such as Samsung and Sony
With all this in mind I thought developers would flock to this device and we would have a massive development forum with loads of options between custom roms, mods, themes and other tweaks etc
But this is far from the case and I know the Nexus 6P being released probably had something to do with it, Still this should have been at least in top 20
At first I thought when Android 6.0 MM will be released development will increase then we needed the kernel sources as that was apparently not enough, then we had kernel sources but apart from 1 or 2 roms showing up being in alpha stages nothings changed too much.
This is such a disappointment to say the least.
If only I could understand why this is happening maybe something could be done to fix this or increase the development of this phone, I dont know maybe get some developers from the nexus 6p forums on here some how ...
Any ideas why this has happened and if anything can be done to increase development?
IS THERE ANY WAY WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN GET MORE DEVELOPERS TO WORK ON THIS DEVICE?

djsynth said:
If only I could understand why this is happening maybe something could be done to fix this or increase the development of this phone, I dont know maybe get some developers from the nexus 6p forums on here some how ...
Any ideas why this has happened and if anything can be done to increase development?
IS THERE ANY WAY WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN GET MORE DEVELOPERS TO WORK ON THIS DEVICE?
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I think it's due to a combination of factors, such as :
1) The popularity of the phone/ manufacturer. These figures show Lenovo/Motorloa in 5th place for sales, having a 3.7% market share in Q3 2015
2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
3) With phones getting more expensive, more people are put off from unlocking their bootloader due to warranty issues
4) I'm no longer convinced about the benefits of custom ROMs - seems a lot of the time they break more things than they fix. Maybe a lot of other people now think the same.
5) Some apps, for example ones for mobile banking or subscrition TV & Video, will not work with a rooted phone.
In the past I've had various phones from various manufacturers, and I'd say if you get your kicks from installing custom ROMs, then buy a Nexus.

When i had the one plus one there were so many roms that was a brain storm... I prefer some and reliable roms than a plethora where you get confused!!!

2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
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4) I'm no longer convinced about the benefits of custom ROMs - seems a lot of the time they break more things than they fix. Maybe a lot of other people now think the same.
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IMO you hit the nail on the head. I love this phone. I had the MXPE 2014 as well, was not a fan. Also owned the original, Loved it.
This MXPE has been great in imo, the lack of development has not been disappointing to me. The stock rom is really pretty good, there are minor tweaks that can be done but most can do these on their own.
I used to be a flash-aholic, but like @GretaLewd has stated...custom roms tend to break things. I'm more in favor of kernel development. But how many different kernels can you have? One way or another they'll be the same.
I also own a Nexus 6P, but my MXPE is my go to device.
I see users complaining about this phone constantly, I really don't think it matters what phone you put in the hands of those users...they would still find fault and complain.
Motorola and Lenovo did good by this device, I just hope they keep up with incrementals for a while.

Isn't the 64bit cpu reason because it takes more work to get cm/aosp roms?
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Good thread. Would love to hear more thoughts
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Ordered the device today. Hope slow development doesn't disappoint me on this device, as others have stated...

I have been using this device for 2 months now. I am happy with it an didn't face a single issue. I can do a little bit tweaking myself using Xposed.
So far the slow development doesn't bother me.

Only buy a device for what it can do out of the box, not what you hope it will be able to do with additional modding and development... Nothing else is guaranteed!
As it stands I'm very happy with my rooted stock Style, not need for custom roms.

chrisund123 said:
Only buy a device for what it can do out of the box, not what you hope it will be able to do with additional modding and development... Nothing else is guaranteed!
As it stands I'm very happy with my rooted stock Style, not need for custom roms.
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That's a good way to approach Android phones I suppose but I believe
it's still nice to buy a phone that's great out of the box and good development wise, usually flagships tend to have good development and then the mid range and low end phones tend to get smaller developments but I guess there's an exception to everything.

patt2k said:
Isn't the 64bit cpu reason because it takes more work to get cm/aosp roms?
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I doubt that's the reason since 64 Bit has been the standard since Lollipop and pretty much all the flagships have a 64bit cpu since the beggining of 2015 but that doesn't stop other development forums from flourishing.

GretaLewd said:
I think it's due to a combination of factors, such as :
1) The popularity of the phone/ manufacturer. These figures show Lenovo/Motorloa in 5th place for sales, having a 3.7% market share in Q3 2015
2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
3) With phones getting more expensive, more people are put off from unlocking their bootloader due to warranty issues
4) I'm no longer convinced about the benefits of custom ROMs - seems a lot of the time they break more things than they fix. Maybe a lot of other people now think the same.
5) Some apps, for example ones for mobile banking or subscrition TV & Video, will not work with a rooted phone.
In the past I've had various phones from various manufacturers, and I'd say if you get your kicks from installing custom ROMs, then buy a Nexus.
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Thank you for your break down on your thoughts of the subject and I must admit you've mention some very valid points here especially Point 1,2 and 5 but I think out of all of these its Point 1 and 2 that are the most significant, I suppose Motorola have a really small market share explains the lack of adoption between developers when comparing to some of the more prominent manufacturers such as samsung.
and The Android Stock OS has improved significantly within the past couple of years adding some new features that previously people had to root their phones to acomplish such as full app permission controls and backing up app data which google does for you now.

You need to follow development before buying a device these days. i.e. always wait at least 1-2 months. If you follow the development forums you would get an idea if developers are interested in said device or not. I for one, bought it right after I found out that AICP (CM12) rom was being developed. I was interested in running CM13 instead of other AOSP variations. And before I got the device the first (almost daily driver) builds were already uploaded.

Once cm is solid quite a few roms will pop up. Won't be long now.

Official MM has only been out for our phone for a little over a month. give it some time it may pick up. either way it's still an awesome phone out the box... and as stated above, once CM13 is stable im sure we'll see some of the other custom ROMs that are based off it.

GretaLewd said:
2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
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This is a great point, but I'd like to add that this is especially applicable to our MXPE. We're really close to stock as it is, so there's little motivation to go ROM to debloat like there is on Samsung, LG, and similar phones. On the flip side, we have a lot of really neat features (active display, approach, accelerator gestures, voice controls) that we would lose if we went ROM.
For me, these two points combine, leaving me with little motivation to ROM my phone, especially since I can could get most of the advantages of CyanogenMod with something like GravityBox, which will allow me to keep the Motorola features (I'm currently unrooted because of the warranty, but I'll be rooted in the future for sure) . Of course, these are my own personal opinions, but I suspect that they reflect at least some of the mindset of this community.

I agree with others, that custom roms are often more trouble than they're worth. The only reason to use them these days is if your device isn't going to be updated to the latest version of Android.

Ever since moto introduced 99% stock android + moto display, roms have been entirely unnecessary for me. I used to rom my phones to gain greater flexibility + customizability. Now that I have stock android + Xposed, I doubt I will ever flash another custom rom again.

I'm still waiting for custom super roms that will make this device best in the market. Why can we have a rom with 1080p display, tweak kernel with better control for heating issue for overall battery life and speed?
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The biggest issue is that developers don't support devices they don't own. With the launch of the nexus 6 (not the 6p) most developers got it and had no need to update to a y newer devices.
Also to the comment that all flag ships are 64 bit this is not the case. If you look the most popular devices as far as developers are concerned are non 64 bit.
Also as android matures you will see less and less roms. As it will be come harder. There are very few real development teams. Most are just kitchen sink roms. A base with tons of cherry picks and a new name. Nothing even worth looking at twice. But more developers are closing up the source of their projects because of these types of roms.
To be honest most users have no point in flashing roms. Only those that like the development side of it will continue to mod roms and flash things.

Google Pixel ROM Reviews

Hey guys,
I used to do ROM Reviews for the Nexus 6 a long time ago but got carried away with work and had to slow down (we all know how much time and effort it can take to wipe and restart with a new ROM). I feel like the reviews helped spark discussion and the responses to the reviews really helped me understand what factors mattered most to the average user.
Anyways, is there any interest in me starting this up for the Pixel? I've used PureNexus for quite some time now and feel like I have a very good grasp on it in terms of features and performance. I'm downloading and configuring Hexa tonight, so I can start with a comparison (outside of stock). If there's interest, I'll plan to post the first review at the end of this next week (around 3/4 Feb).
EDIT: I'm going to wait on this until the GApps issues all get ironed out. I'd love feedback on which ROMs to try, so I can start with the ROMs people want first.

Could use some in-depth reviews here. Perhaps a comparison to stock.

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Could use some in-depth reviews here. Perhaps a comparison to stock.
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Any ROM preference for the first one?

phishfi said:
Any ROM preference for the first one?
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Hexa would be nice. I've been contemplating flashing it but would like a review to compare it with PN
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S8ntsHaz3 said:
Hexa would be nice. I've been contemplating flashing it but would like a review to compare it with PN
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So I tried installing Hexa last night. Coming from PureNexus, I played it safe and wiped everything first, didn't even install TWRP (just used fastboot to boot into TWRP every time). Still, I had nothing but issues with Google Play services. I'm also not a fan of all the AOSP apps that LineageOS includes. I wish there was an option during set up where it asks if you want to keep them, so users can decline the ones they'll never use (I'm fine with them including the essentials, like "Messaging", but I can't stand having the AOSP Email app and a bunch of other).
I then tried to install Oct-N, with a number of issues again.
If/when I do this, I'm going to have to wait until the process becomes less painful. I liked PureNexus a LOT, but for the moment (I'll keep trying next weekend) I'm going to stick with stock w/ root.

phishfi said:
So I tried installing Hexa last night. Coming from PureNexus, I played it safe and wiped everything first, didn't even install TWRP (just used fastboot to boot into TWRP every time). Still, I had nothing but issues with Google Play services. I'm also not a fan of all the AOSP apps that LineageOS includes. I wish there was an option during set up where it asks if you want to keep them, so users can decline the ones they'll never use (I'm fine with them including the essentials, like "Messaging", but I can't stand having the AOSP Email app and a bunch of other).
I then tried to install Oct-N, with a number of issues again.
If/when I do this, I'm going to have to wait until the process becomes less painful. I liked PureNexus a LOT, but for the moment (I'll keep trying next weekend) I'm going to stick with stock w/ root.
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Have you tried Dirty Unicorns yet?
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for me its either pure nexus or dirty unicorns. DU has a few more options and better battery life currently. at least for me. the pixel doesnt have anywhere near the dev community the nexuses or oneplus3t have. but ill take what I can get.

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for me its either pure nexus or dirty unicorns. DU has a few more options and better battery life currently. at least for me. the pixel doesnt have anywhere near the dev community the nexuses or oneplus3t have. but ill take what I can get.
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I don't think that's necessarily true. The Pixel's system is completely different from either of those devices, and it's taking significantly longer for the devs to sort out all of the kinks. It doesn't help that it's MUCH more consumer-focused than any of Google's previous phones or tablets.
I tried DU a long time ago on an older device, but not on my Pixel. Maybe I'll try that next. Does DU have a thing against sharing their builds on XDA?

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I don't think that's necessarily true. The Pixel's system is completely different from either of those devices, and it's taking significantly longer for the devs to sort out all of the kinks. It doesn't help that it's MUCH more consumer-focused than any of Google's previous phones or tablets.
I tried DU a long time ago on an older device, but not on my Pixel. Maybe I'll try that next. Does DU have a thing against sharing their builds on XDA?
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I dont think a lot of devs have the pixel or xl. they are pretty expensive. but yes I know the new partition scheme is a pita. thats why we dont have a stable twrp yet. ive yet to see another person with a pixel despite it selling well. I mostly see samsungs and iphones.
im not sure what the beef is with DU and xda. they are at devbase. I didnt join the site, just bookmarked for the builds.

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I dont think a lot of devs have the pixel or xl. they are pretty expensive. but yes I know the new partition scheme is a pita. thats why we dont have a stable twrp yet. ive yet to see another person with a pixel despite it selling well. I mostly see samsungs and iphones.
im not sure what the beef is with DU and xda. they are at devbase. I didnt join the site, just bookmarked for the builds.
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Fair point, especially if they enjoy the Nexus 6P...

Can you get Oct-N to work and leave a review? Seems interesting.

i have been running DU since it was released and recently flashed purenexus almost a week ago. while the 2 roms have similar mods i feel DU had better battery life. both roms run smooth but battery life is the deciding factor on which rom to use as a daily driver.

Just bought this phone - What can I expect?

Hi.
I picked up a 6p for £30. It needs new volume buttons so I may as well change the battery while I'm fixing the buttons.
I'm back into flashing again after a period with Huawei phones.
Is development pretty good on this device? Can you recommend any ROMs that are super stable and have GPS?
Cheers.

problems...
some of the best roms are, AICP (weekly releases, full functions) and personally I like Resurrection Remix 7.2 both are Android 9 based and can't go wrong with em imo. These come highly customizable out of the box if that's your thing, or if your more into the stock-like "pixel experience" there is Pixel Experience rom with versions based on either Android 10 or 9.

What are the problems?

I've been using the Nexus 6P since January 2016, and now it is a secondary phone for me. I love flashing ROMs and that's how I use this phone now. You shall try the Pixel experience ROM based on Android 10- https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3970525, I haven't been able to register fingerprints/ nexus imprint in this ROM rest is working just fine.
Now, coming to what you should expect, in phrase- 'A lot of lag and nostalgia'. The device is very slow when compared to present generation flagship devices, and it will be evident everywhere, no matter what you're using this devices for the Snapdragon 810 won't let you do it not without a few hiccups here and there. As much as I hate the sluggish performance of this device there is a lot of nostalgia associated with this device and the amount of support this device is getting is simply amazing for which almost every bit of credit goes to the XDA developers community.
So, you're welcome have fun flashing/ or doing whatever you choose to do with your device. ✌

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Now, coming to what you should expect, in phrase- 'A lot of lag and nostalgia'. The device is very slow when compared to present generation flagship devices, and it will be evident everywhere, no matter what you're using this devices for the Snapdragon 810 won't let you do it not without a few hiccups here and there. As much as I hate the sluggish performance of this device there is a lot of nostalgia associated with this device and the amount of support this device is getting is simply amazing for which almost every bit of credit goes to the XDA developers community.
So, you're welcome have fun flashing/ or doing whatever you choose to do with your device. ✌
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I disagree with you.
The 6P can without difficulties keep up with devices that have been manufactured recent.
A comparison with a OnePlus 7 or the Google Pixel 4 is relatively pointless with a view of the technological achievements in this time.
The well-known hardware issues do not apply to every device, btw.
If you look up the price for an angler or the shamu for example, with regard to the specs is the performance definitely more than legitimate in 2020.
I paid for the angler 90 Euro in tip-top condition.The shamu cost roughly the same.
Compare those with newer devices and you have to remember which possibilities come within.
In regard to dozens of restrictions which have been implemented.Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung and surely others are a pain², mate.
The Nexus series has of all other brands/devices the most loyal and foremost diverse selection of customized roms, kernel, not to forget the variety of applicable options.
There are not many other phones with 4yrs mileage and those possibilities.
I could write much more about this topic, but everyone who is a long time Nexus user with the according interest in customization is usually well informed about this subject.
Beside the awful manta is the Nexus series still a very good choice. If you are in our scene you have to look up the specs, make yourself a picture beforehand. So the problems shouldn't be not surprising for someone who is informed.
The Nexus 5 cost used even today at least ~110 Euro.This is a good example for their value;not only for nostalgiac causes, but for a reliable device with limited specs..The release of the hammerhead was 2012, you know.Nexus 7 is or was the most ever sold tablet.
Perhaps the child manufactured iPads have reached those numbers yet, but iOS is with Microsofts attempt to break into the smartphone market, the worst OS resp piece of hardware I have witnessed, therefore are these attempts, at least for me, not of relevance.
Regards

Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
I picked up a 6p for £30. It needs new volume buttons so I may as well change the battery while I'm fixing the buttons.
I'm back into flashing again after a period with Huawei phones.
Is development pretty good on this device? Can you recommend any ROMs that are super stable and have GPS?
Cheers.
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I forgot to response yesterday..
The development is still ongoing, but personally wouldn't I recommend any kind of FBE/FDE based roms(mostly Android 9 and 10).
I use the device at the time with Aosip 8.1, which is very stable and quite good developed.
I would also recommend that you try a rom without any custom kernel for the first time(s)..
I have not best experiences with either of them.
At last would I highly recommend the Nougat roms like Uber, PureNexus..those are without doubt the most reliable.
I hope you have fun with the device.
To your question regarding GPS reliability, would I look into the Magisk repository.
They have a great module for maximizing the signal and receiver accuracy.
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I forgot to response yesterday..
The development is still ongoing, but personally wouldn't I recommend any kind of FBE/FDE based roms(mostly Android 9 and 10).
I use the device at the time with Aosip 8.1, which is very stable and quite good developed.
I would also recommend that you try a rom without any custom kernel for the first time(s)..
I have not best experiences with either of them.
At last would I highly recommend the Nougat roms like Uber, PureNexus..those are without doubt the most reliable.
I hope you have fun with the device.
To your question regarding GPS reliability, would I look into the Magisk repository.
They have a great module for maximizing the signal and receiver accuracy.
Welcome in the Angler Community
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Thanks for the reply.
For the moment I have settled on stock 8.1 rooted. I am not sure how to flash some of the newer ROM's using FBE/FDE. Plus the newer ROM's seen to have quite a few issues regarding finger print etc.
I'll wait a while and then see how these ROM's are progressing.

Warren_Orange said:
Thanks for the reply.
For the moment I have settled on stock 8.1 rooted. I am not sure how to flash some of the newer ROM's using FBE/FDE. Plus the newer ROM's seen to have quite a few issues regarding finger print etc.
I'll wait a while and then see how these ROM's are progressing.
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Alright.
Just beware of these awful bash/.bat scripts by Google for the fastboot installation.
I don't know which distribution you use..in any case should you avoid the fastboot/adb package in Debian's distro, they contain some bugs.
If you use Linux(Ubuntu, Mint, Debian..), dkwnload the sdk package(solely the fastboot part!) and set the path by hand.
If you need any advice I am happy to help out when there is an issue.
Here you will find the GPS - Magisk module, which I mentioned earlier, btw - >
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/optmizedgpsconf
PS
I don't want to diminish the work of the remaining developer here and am quite interested, but this device was not made for Pie, let alone Q.
Stick with the factory rom, altough it's very bloated.
PureNexus is the thinner brother of stock..but it is best as inform yourself far as possible and decide what you want.