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I need to go about returning my 8125 to warranty exchange. Problem is, I did not purchase the phone, rather bought it brand new off of someone else. (who bought it from cingular) The other person is unwilling to do the exchange. Excluding the issue of the reasons for the exchange, and any physical damage (there is only scratches) could I do a warranty exchange without the involvement of the seller? I plan to say the phone keeps freezing. Worked with my razr.
Also, I flashed the phone to a new rom, will this void the warranty? Do i have to flash back to summiter's stock rom? Thanks a lot.
1) Normally Cingular's gonna want some sort of proof of purchase. Since the phone's not been out more than a year though you might be lucky on that point.
2) It had better have the STOCK ROM (not summiter's not Mr. Clean not anything custom, STOCK) before you send it in. Otherwise they're gonna know you messed with it.
where can i get the stock rom
Well according to this link http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/161 one of the ROM's available from Summiter is infact the original ROM. Summiter must have backed it up before starting to play with it, I guess.
If the rom is still a cingular rom will not void warranty.
If not -
This is the stock rom ftp://[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
If the device is supercid unlocked then do a simple downgrade - if not you will have to go down this path. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848
This sucks
I have the same problem got it brand new on ebay everything was wrapped in original box including the sim card. the touch screen is having issues the bottom part wont' do anything. tried to call cingular the would not help .. i explained that i am a cingular customer but i have the phone so i can use it on a data plan with t mobile and they would not help at all told me that if i didn't get the item from them or their authorized seller they will not help. I have been on the phone wiht HTC america a total of 4 hours back and forth and they won't help. look sell it on ebay...... and call it a day. I will never purchase another cingular branded phone. thinking of switching to tmobile but their service sucks. sprint out of the question i have too many unlocked phones big investment and i refuse to be locked to one phone using sprint or veriozon. the entire deal sucks.... they should sell phones like in europe walk in the store get a phone at the phone's price not at some larger price just to line the fat greasy pockets of cingular ceo's they tricked me inot migrating my good at&t plan they told me that i had 15 days to decide and i can cancel but when i asked for my at&t plan they tell me some story about they don't have th plans anymore. I still have th at&t sim so what give the whole think sucks. lets move to europe
Did you tell them you didn't buy it from them? I've done several exchanges and they have never asked me that. They just ask for the IMEI number (which identifies it as a Cingular phone and the model) and then process the exchange. Whatever you do, do NOT volunteer the fact that you got it elsewhere and you should be OK, but yes return it with the stock ROM
stock rom
you mean i can go to the store without a reciep and get a replacement
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alynch75 said:
the entire deal sucks.... they should sell phones like in europe walk in the store get a phone at the phone's price not at some larger price just to line the fat greasy pockets of cingular ceo's
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Now this is a logical fallacy. Have you even bothered to price the cost of a Wizard in the UK? If they were priced the way you say, you'd be paying a whole lot more for them. Retail price on an unlocked Wizard is between $600 and $700 USD. Retail price on a locked unit (ie, just walk into a store in the US and buy it straight out) is $450. With a contract from either T-Mobile or Cingular you can get them from $0-$100.
When you buy used on eBay you always take a risk. Without a proof of purchase, the store/carrier is really under no obligation to warranty the phone for you. Sure, many times they will but it is silly to assume that they have to do it. If you wanted that level of service you would have bought from the store in the first place. Nothing says you can't walk into a retailer, buy a phone and not get a contract.
If you've got a defective phone you really should be taking it up with the guy who sold it to you on eBay as fully working.
hello wait a minute
I got it on ebay and the guy who sold it said it was brand new now i can't get in contact with him. the contact info that ebay has is a po box. they guy won't return my calls. He sent me one email asking me for the imie number after i gave him that number all of a sudden the phone would not boot into windows. The inial problem was the touch screen now the entire thing is toast. Should I call my credit card company and dispute the charge.
Just giving someone an IMEI number should not cause a boot failure by itself, however the simply fact that he asked for it is somewhat suspect as there is no legit reason for a seller to need to ask a buyer for the IMEI number of a phone after it has been sold.
I'm not saying this is your case, but the first thing that pops to mind is insurance fraud. A popular eBay scam right now is to sign up for phone service and get an expensive phone for free. The person in question will also get phone insurance. Then they put the phone up for sale and collect the cash, while at the same time reporting it to the carrier as lost or stolen. The phone then gets replaced and they have both cash in hand as well as a new phone.
In much of the world (ie all over Europe) this doesn't work well as IMEI blocking has been implemented by the carriers there. If a phone is reported lost or stolen the IMEI is added to a database and none of the cooperating networks will allow it to register. In the US this hasn't happened yet on the GSM networks. With the CDMA networks they tie to the ESN on the phone and will block a lost or stolen phone (as well as one with an outstanding balance).
Regardless, had the IMEI been blocked by the carrier, you would not be able to make calls but the Wizard should still boot up and function as a PDA. Of course, if the seller was trying to pull insurance fraud that would explain why he asked for the IMEI and is now ignoring you. It would be rather simple for the seller to do a warranty exchange with Cingular on your behalf, but if the phone was reported lost or stolen he wouldn't exactly want to be phoning up Cingular and asking them to service the phone.
Just some idle speculation.
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alynch75 said:
I got it on ebay and the guy who sold it said it was brand new now i can't get in contact with him. the contact info that ebay has is a po box. they guy won't return my calls. He sent me one email asking me for the imie number after i gave him that number all of a sudden the phone would not boot into windows. The inial problem was the touch screen now the entire thing is toast. Should I call my credit card company and dispute the charge.
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I believe that you should contact EBay or Paypal and your credit card number to put the case on the dispute...let them know that the item not in working condition as they advertise. You may spent a lot of effort and time for it but at least..... this will make the seller to contact you and deal with you again.
Format has failed
I was able to flash the rom. The flashed completed but it still freezes at the start up screen it says the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
its stuck onthe Cingular logo screen. When I try to do a hard reset it give the error message
format has failed.....
Can this device be saved?
Sounds like it is having trouble initializing a section of the flash. My guess is that there's a bad flash chip on there. If I ever saw that on my Wizard I'd be on the phone asking for a warranty replacement.
How do i get the replacemente
How do I get the replacement. I got it off Ebay. Will HTC give me a replacement if so please send me a number where I can contact them.
update of my situation
Well still no reply from the seller so I called the credit card company and dispute the charge. i have copies of the guys ad... and copies of the rude emails he sent me. The credit card company told me just hold on to the defective phone and the emails and they will take care of it.. Apparantly the seller was working from a Post office box he was pay apal verified. I just hope no one else falls victim to this guy.
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you mean i can go to the store without a reciep and get a replacement
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No. Do it online or through the phone. (Online is easiest)
can i use warranty replacement?
i dont have any talk plan with cingular
i dont have receipt
i buy this phone as new on ebay 4 month ago
i tried to call to Exchange by Mail program and they asking for the phone number...
Unfortunately, AT&T will not replace phone...
Kysa said:
can i use warranty replacement?
i dont have any talk plan with cingular
i dont have receipt
i buy this phone as new on ebay 4 month ago
i tried to call to Exchange by Mail program and they asking for the phone number...
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If you bought the phone off of eBay, AND are not an AT&T/Cingular customer, they will not replace the phone... what is wrong with it...?
maybe ebay seller can help
maybe ebay seller can help?
i drop device on the floor in the morning
and later i found that device not accepting security code
tray soft reset but didnt boot properly
after hard reset device boot and work but i can not access phone via hardware buttons and via software (start>Phone)
tray to flash original original cingular latest rom but stack on 12%
now i flash LVSW 20070616 and device working but phone service dont working same
Dropped Phone is an issue
Very few warranties cover dropped devices... There are a few though, but you have to have the warranty in place on a new device and there are some caveats to them... As for the eBay seller, I doubt that they will offer any real assistance after 4 months of usage... There are a few other options that may be available, but they all concern questionable ethics and morality, so I won't even mention them...
You may be out of luck on this issue... Good Luck to you though...
Yep; you're essentially screwed. When you buy something from eBay, you rarely get a manufacturer's warranty, especially if the seller is an individual as opposed to an eBay Seller (business). Even if they are a legitimate business, I too doubt they will warranty any electronic device that has been dropped.
Next time do two things--put the phone in a protective case and use a screen protector; both things are inexpensive insurance against damage.
stevebonning> There isn't any damage outside.
I'm only interested in usual warranty procedures. If the contract is neccessary, can I ask my friend from the US,who has the contract to bring the phone for warranty replacement?
Buy a new phone and don't try to scam Cingular/AT&T.
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Kysa said:
stevebonning> There isn't any damage outside.
I'm only interested in usual warranty procedures. If the contract is neccessary, can I ask my friend from the US,who has the contract to bring the phone for warranty replacement?
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You cannot ask your friend to have it done, since that phone is not listed on his/her account... That is why you were originally asked for the phone number... You have to buy a new phone or pay to have your phone serviced... You can contact HTC and send them the phone and pay the cost... There is no legal way that you can have the phone repaired under any warranty agreement, after you have already damaged the product...
I hate to say it, since it has already been said... you will have to either pay for the repair, or buy a new phone...
This forum cannot help you commit fraud, that is not what we are here for... Your original question has been answered.. If you have any further questions, other than how to get a damaged, non-warranty phone repaired, please begin a new thread and we will be happy to help you...
I would think next time you will take better care. Surely you really can't expect anyone or company to pay for your breaking your own phone?? Not only is this not right I believe it to be illegal what your trying to do. Best case immoral and flat out sleazzzzzy.
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Wise up, people... the phone is utimately warranted by HTC as the manufacturer of the device. They prefer to route things through the carriers because it's easier that way, but you can deal directly with HTC.
To the OP: All you can do is contact HTC and plead your case. You may need to be persistent, but they do have non-carrier and out-of-warranty service. May take 2 or 3 tries to get to someone who knows this.
Oh, and despite what some have said, if you bought if off eBay it still carries the one year manufacturer's warranty (whether or not it will cover having dropped it is another issue). They track the warranty period by S/N. I recently had one -- that I purchased off eBay -- replaced, no questions asked.
vp3G>thanks for you answer I will tray contact nearest HTC office
Warranty replacement
Pm me I work at the warranty exchange center in 1000 oaks california. I might be able to help. Ill give you the need t know to get the phone replaced. One drop should not caused it to trip. I've dropped the hellout of mine and it works fine.
jrgonz454>lucky you, you are working in cingular or htc?
I have been droped my Wizard twice and phone work perfect
but not this time with Hermes
I'm working in pc business and when we get non working device we just check for visual damages and if dont see any we bring device to manufacturer or distributor and usually we get new one (if not expired warranty time)
So I've had my HTC EVO since launch and have always had the infamous sun/bright spot on my screen. I didn't bother to get it replaced due to the shortage and noted that it has a 1-year manufacture warranty.
I don't buy insurance on my phones since I treat them really well.
So I went to Sprint today to have them replace my screen and the rep. told me to call HTC directly in regards to having my phone fixed since I do not have insurance. I called HTC and they say repairs can take up to 3 weeks and I will be out a phone for that alloted time.
For those of you that don't have insurance, did Sprint help you out in any way? If not, how did you deal with not having a phone?
Thanks,
Anthony
they should fix it for you. The switch to htc for warranty repair happened AFTER you bought the phone, so legally you can still take it to sprint for warranty repairs. I would take it to another store, or call customer service and have them note your account that the store should fix it.
I bought an S8+ from someone who upgraded their contract, which has developed a line across the display today. Will Samsung repair it under warranty regardless?
Samsung might need a receipt but you'll have to check. Worst case the repair will have to be initiated and done by the original owner. If this person is a decent human being they should be able to handle this for you, either through the carrier or through Samsung.
It should be repaired.
It depends whether the warranty is transferable. Hisense TV's for example don't allow warranty transfer. You'll have to read the Ts&Cs.
Just came off the phone with Samsung UK and they've organised a brand new phone to be delivered on Tuesday, no questions asked. Brilliant.
just make sure you get a copy of the upgrade paperwork from the original owner and then just do the warranty call saying you are that person and give your work address to get the phone sent back to.
mikey_sk said:
just make sure you get a copy of the upgrade paperwork from the original owner and then just do the warranty call saying you are that person and give your work address to get the phone sent back to.
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No need, new phone delivered this morning. I see lots of people have problems with Samsung support but I really can't complain as it was a painless experience.
My only worry buying a contract phone from someone else was that they would report it stolen and me ending up with a blacklisted phone. No more such worries as I have a new IMEI number.
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
So you are basically asking us how to defraud Google?
fiffan86 said:
So you are basically asking us how to defraud Google?
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And is not it necessary for Verizon to ask for an unlock? I'm also interested in this
Should have bought a unlocked version to start with.
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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A warranty replacement will most likely end up giving you the same device but refurbished as the purpose of warranties is to fix your device/item with the exact one but without the defect.
To me it looks like your asking if google can give you a non-verizon one in exchange for your Verizon edition. That's not how a warranty exchange works. As much as I would like to change the color of my 2 XL, I'm stuck with what I CHOSE.
Why not try calling Google themselves and ask them so you can speak with them directly?
Travisdroidx2 said:
Should have bought a unlocked version to start with.
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I hate this answer bro. No offense. Not everyone can afford $900 upfront. And their finance option isn't that easy to get approval.
slogar25 said:
I hate this answer bro. No offense. Not everyone can afford $900 upfront. And their finance option isn't that easy to get approval.
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You can get an unlocked one for the same price as the Verizon model.
It doesn't make it okay to buy a red car through a private seller and then ask the dealer to give you a blue one because you don't like the blue, although the red one is perfectly fine. He chose the Verizon one, he's stuck with it.
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You can get an unlocked one for the same price as the Verizon model.
It doesn't make it okay to buy a red car through a private seller and then ask the dealer to give you a blue one because you don't like the blue, although the red one is perfectly fine. He chose the Verizon one, he's stuck with it.
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Point taken. Your previous statement had nothing to do with his situation. He bought it off of Craigslist because I'm assuming didn't want to pay out right for it from Google. And Verizon doesn't sell unlocked ones. Like I said I have good credit and still couldn't get approved through Google financing but because I'm a Verizon customer in good standing all it took for me was to walk in the door
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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The warranty on the device is valid only for the person who originally bought it. Since you are not the original buyer, the warranty is null and void. Requesting an exchange because of the bootloader being locked would not be honored even if you were the original purchaser of the device; bootloader locking is not a defect.
You're not going to be able to convince Google to swap devices. So, you either deal with what you have, or sell it on Swappa and get something else.
What have we learned from this boys and girls? Never to buy smartphones off Craigslist. Because if you get lucky, you just end up not being able to unlock a bootloader. If you get really lucky, the IMEI is blacklisted and the police confiscate the device because it was stolen, leaving you out of pocket the amount you spent, with nothing to show for it.
I very much made this mistake in Australia with getting a nexus 6P... It had the horrendous battery issue and the person I bought it off would NOT give me a receipt... So even though the phone was under warranty... It was null and void. I made numous calls to google... To the place the device was bought from... But they couldn't do anything. I bought myself a pixel xl 2 and I got the guy to give me the receipt and proof of purchase. You will not be able to swap the device for an unlocked model... If you have the receipt and it needed to be replaced, they would give you the exact same model/locked to Verizon. Even if it would not a new device... Sorry mate, you are out of luck indefinitely
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godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The warranty on the device is valid only for the person who originally bought it. Since you are not the original buyer, the warranty is null and void. Requesting an exchange because of the bootloader being locked would not be honored even if you were the original purchaser of the device; bootloader locking is not a defect.
You're not going to be able to convince Google to swap devices. So, you either deal with what you have, or sell it on Swappa and get something else.
What have we learned from this boys and girls? Never to buy smartphones off Craigslist. Because if you get lucky, you just end up not being able to unlock a bootloader. If you get really lucky, the IMEI is blacklisted and the police confiscate the device because it was stolen, leaving you out of pocket the amount you spent, with nothing to show for it.
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Warranty on pixel 2 does not even go by the owner. It goes by the imei. So long as that number is not out of warranty from the original date of purchase and the phone has not been blacklisted by verizon or google the warranty is not void. They will only ask your name and address and such if they are going to send a replacement. They will ask for a first name when tou are first begin to conversate with them, but will not ask full name unless they are going to replace phone.
They will not do it just to unlock your bootloader. There needs to be a legitimate problem with the phone.
@smartymcfly: Google makes a copy of the device warranty available on their support pages. The Pixel 2 XL warranty reads, in part...
This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in locations the Phone is sold and will apply only if you purchased your Phone from Google or its authorized resellers.
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The OP did not buy the phone from Google, Best Buy, Verizon, or any other authorized reseller and thus the warranty is null and void. The only value the IMEI has is determining the phone's date of manufacture. The warranty however starts on the date of purchase, which could be months later.
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@smartymcfly: Google makes a copy of the device warranty available on their support pages. The Pixel 2 XL warranty reads, in part...
The OP did not buy the phone from Google, Best Buy, Verizon, or any other authorized reseller and thus the warranty is null and void. The only value the IMEI has is determining the phone's date of manufacture. The warranty however starts on the date of purchase, which could be months later.
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This is not true because many phones are purchased by one person and given or purchased by another. I know this because I purchased a phone for my sister with my credit card and then she paid me for it, so she bought it from me and she had to send it in for an RMA.
When you call google they want imei number. That is what detirmines if a phone is under warranty or not. Google uses imei to verify the phones end of warranty date.
Think about the process if younhave ever RMAd a device that was google nexus or pixel. They want the imei number and then only ask for your full name when they ask for a mailing address.
While what you say is true, the truth is not always black and white.
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While what you say is true, the truth is not always black and white.
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In your case you bought direct from Google and gave the device as a gift, even if you did get paid back, which is why the warranty still applied to your phone. The OP bought his secondhand, off Craigslist. The moment money exchanged hands the warranty became null and void. The OP pointed out the warranty did not transfer over in his opening post. He therefore must have contacted Google, who then told him the warranty was invalid.
Google being liberal with the warranty does not invalidate its existence. We are all bound by its terms and conditions.
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In your case you bought direct from Google and gave the device as a gift, even if you did get paid back, which is why the warranty still applied to your phone. The OP bought his secondhand, off Craigslist. The moment money exchanged hands the warranty became null and void. The OP pointed out the warranty did not transfer over in his opening post. He therefore must have contacted Google, who then told him the warranty was invalid.
Google being liberal with the warranty does not invalidate its existence. We are all bound by its terms and conditions.
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Which means whoever the seller on Craigslist was probably wasn't the orinal owner with original receipt of sale. Or more than likely the imei isn't clear
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
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Craigslist isn't a seller... As much as it sells stuff... If OP had got a receipt and signed into there name..legally the device is owned by them. But because they didnt. It's not even technically there's as no receipt was made or anything. If they wanted to they could report the device as stolen and there would be nothing you could do about it.
Which leads back to my life lesson about Craigslist in my first post in this thread.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
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I got my P2XL from eBay... When i called Google about the AA issue, i even told them i got it from eBay, even emailed them the purchase receipt...
They still were going to RMA my phone and told me the warranty was still good. So I'm not totally sure if the see an eBay seller as an authorized dealer, but they surely treated it as such