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What's the best WiFi interenet sharing solution? WalkingHotSpot, WiFiRouter,
JoikuSpot, ICSControl, Internet Sharing, or Tethering, etc. Is there another option? What's the advantages and dissadvantages of each?
What I would really like is to have a solution that allows me to configure how many people can connect and/or some kind of security, WEP, or anything at all. Is that possible?
I tried using the Internet Sharing Utility but I would keep getting a Verizon sceen saying I needed to sign up for a different service. I tried both WalkingHotSpot and WiFiRouter. WifiRouter seemed to keep my WiFi on all the time and allowed unlimited people to connect with no security, and WalkingHotSpot I couldn't get working for some reason, but it didn't look like you could set up any security with that either. Thanks for the help and time..
I don't think wifirouter can be beat, I have used it and prefer it.
I hear there is a bug in it that allows it to keep your WiFi turned on all the time. I heard there is a WEP feature and a feature that allows you to kick IPs off from using it. Do you know anything about this? Thanks.
rambrush said:
I don't think wifirouter can be beat, I have used it and prefer it.
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I am not sure what you are talking about.
But you can set up a secure wireless network. It is only on if the switch is on so when you disconnect and turn switch off its done.
I have run the program for 10+ hours straight while on the road it kept the wifes laptop connected anywhere we have connectivity. I do run a amplifer and external antenna for those weaker areas.
Go check out the documentation at this link to see if the info is there?
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/documentation/
What version of the software are you using? I don't remember seeing any of those options with my version. It seemed to still have WiFi working even when the button was off, the icon looked like it was still working, but I didn't test it.. Thanks...
wmwifirouter is my favorite and my dad's by far
So I tried the wireless tethering built into CM 6.1 this week and it's awesome! However, I noticed that my data widget added a 3rd line marked T (the other two are W(ifi) and C(ell)...) it still shows 0bytes next to it though, so obviously it knew that I had activated the tether feature since it added the T line to the data counters, but since it didn't count any of that data in my data usage tracking does that mean I'm okay and AT&T can't see it? I don't want to incur additional charges for tethering. It's cool, but not THAT cool!
No they can't track it.
Cool, thanks.
This Is cool. I been messing around wwith it a lot. I tether wifi to my Xbox via network adapter. I can join live download updates and Facebook. Even voice chat but it wont even try to join a mw2 map. Just loads and loads. Something with Nat u belive but no one here can fix it.
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So I tried the wireless tethering built into CM 6.1 this week and it's awesome! However, I noticed that my data widget added a 3rd line marked T (the other two are W(ifi) and C(ell)...) it still shows 0bytes next to it though, so obviously it knew that I had activated the tether feature since it added the T line to the data counters, but since it didn't count any of that data in my data usage tracking does that mean I'm okay and AT&T can't see it? I don't want to incur additional charges for tethering. It's cool, but not THAT cool!
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Just curious, what data widget are you using?
dough_boy said:
This Is cool. I been messing around wwith it a lot. I tether wifi to my Xbox via network adapter. I can join live download updates and Facebook. Even voice chat but it wont even try to join a mw2 map. Just loads and loads. Something with Nat u belive but no one here can fix it.
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Not really sure why this doesn't work. Are you joining a game or creating a game? I can see it not working if you're creating a game perhaps. By default, you can't even ping the phone's IP address which is a big issue if you're going to host anything (it's totally unreachable).
But, I have actually tethered my PC and played Left 4 Dead 2 without a hitch. All NAT does is route the client's IP to the hosts' IP (to the outside world). You shouldn't have to have the XBOX NAT'ed to join a game at all.. and if you do, well shame on Microsloth...
"If you are using a NAT or firewall, you will need to open (forward) two ports for incoming traffic if you are going to host games. If you are not going to host games, you may or may not need to open these ports, depending on how your NAT works. You will need to consult your NAT documentation for information for how to open (forward) ports."
We cannot forward ports at this time... it may be possible sometime with 3rd party software though. But like I said, you shouldn't have an issue just simply joining a game. Once a connection is established from your end, port forwarding is not an issue. Port forwarding is only for incoming traffic trying to establish a connection (for a server).
Ya I just try to join. Maybe it matters depending on edge or 3g? The reason I thought Nat was because I got message says Nat is not open and may make your experience not as good or what ever.
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No they can't track it.
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Is there a way to verify this? 911jason says his widget isn't picking up data usage while tethered, but I just tried both tethering and wifi hot spot and using 3G Watchdog, it most definitely showed usage on both.
It uses your data it just don't show up to at&t as tethered. Just like using it on your phone
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Okay, so I tried tethering and wifi hotspot for the first time today, just to check them out. Now when I connect to my computer and turn on USB storage, the drive doesn't show up. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
*EDIT* Restarting my computer did nothing, but restarting my phone seems to have fixed the problem. Weird.
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Just curious, what data widget are you using?
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The one I was referring to was Data counter widget but I also use 3G Watchdog.
armyengineer51 said:
Okay, so I tried tethering and wifi hotspot for the first time today, just to check them out. Now when I connect to my computer and turn on USB storage, the drive doesn't show up. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
*EDIT* Restarting my computer did nothing, but restarting my phone seems to have fixed the problem. Weird.
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Yea I had the same issue...so i decided i'd try what used to work -- swiftp...but that didn't work either...then i just gave up. Then I was like..well **** I can just use dropbox...so did that for a while then plugged my into my computer to see if it was working again and sure enough it was LOL
Can anyone explain to me why tethering uses more data? I am replacing my head unit in my car with a Nexus 7. While I plan to have plenty of downloaded podcasts available, I also want the option of using streaming music services. When tethering I am using my phone as a WiFi hotspot, Nexus is running the latest version of SmoothROM.
So, for an experiment I set up tethering on my phone, checked the current data useage, opened Slacker on the tablet and played music for 15 minutes. In that time the Tablet (according to the phone data useage) consumed about 24MB of data. Did the same but then using Slacker on my phone, this time after 15 minutes, only 7MB of data. At that rate I would only get about 30 hours of music before starting to run into the ridiculous 3GB cap. While 30 hours is a lot, I have 6+ hours of commuting a week. As I wrote above, I plan to have a good number of downloaded content available, but am curious as to the difference between what on the face of it, should be the same.
Looking in a little deeper, on the phone it shows 5MB of foreground data, and 2GB of background data, on the tablet its about a 50/50 split showing 12MB for both foreground and background. I checked the settings, and the only differences were that I had Overnight refresh on the tablet switched on (not that it should make any difference as first, it was not overnight, and second I don't have any downloaded content for it to refresh) and off on the phone. On the phone I also have audio quality set to Best, but only set to Good on the tablet.
If someone can explain the difference to me I would appeciate it.
Thanks.
Edit: So upon further research it seems that Slacker changes the bitrate / codecs it uses when using wifi vs cellular networks. Even though the phone is using cellular data, the Nexus thinks its connected to wifi and so requests the higher bitrate. Wondering if there is a way to force it to use one vs the other.
Tethering via Bluetooth seems to convince my N7 that it's on a mobile connection.
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Edit: So upon further research it seems that Slacker changes the bitrate / codecs it uses when using wifi vs cellular networks. Even though the phone is using cellular data, the Nexus thinks its connected to wifi and so requests the higher bitrate. Wondering if there is a way to force it to use one vs the other.
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This was going to be my suggestion, glad you figured it out. Some other apps have ways to adjust the data quality, not sure about Slacker. FYI, if you have an Android ICS+ phone, you can use Bluetooth tethering. It uses less power both for the phone and the tablet, and since it's not wifi, it might use a lower bitrate codec. Dunno.
Your phone is doing crap in the background. Its common.
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khaytsus said:
Some other apps have ways to adjust the data quality, not sure about Slacker. FYI, if you have an Android ICS+ phone, you can use Bluetooth tethering. It uses less power both for the phone and the tablet, and since it's not wifi, it might use a lower bitrate codec. Dunno.
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Slacker has an option to change the quality, but it appeared to make no difference (I had both set to the lowest setting). My phone does have ICS, so I will give tethering via Bluetooth a try and see how that goes.
BlackFire27 said:
Your phone is doing crap in the background. Its common.
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But the phone used less data than the tablet? Did you mean to write that the tablet is doing more stuff in the background? regardless, I looked specifically at the data useage of the Slacker app only. Which ruled out anything the phone/tablet may be doing in the background.
So, tried again this afternoon tethered via Bluetooth (which was a pain to get working for some odd reason). This time 15 minutes of Slacker useage only increased the data useage on the phone by 15MB. I am guessing that along with Slacker the tablet was trying to do background updates as well, I plan to turn on the minimize background updates later and try again. Either way it would appear Bluetooth streaming is the way to go.
Does the Data usage item still appear in Settings on a non-3G Nexus 7? If so, in that menu you can tap the menu button up top and choose "Mobile hotspots". Here you can select which wifi networks are in fact mobile hotspots rather than actual unrestricted Internet connections. When you are connected to these, at least in theory it will tell apps to stick to the low bandwidth features.
Hey guys,
My nexus 10 had a gray Wi-Fi bar and is failing to connect any of the Google services such as play store, search app, or gmail. Basically GAPPS. I cannot find a solution to this besides factory resetting, can someone help? My tablet is on stock rooted.
Thanks!
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My N10 either has a grey WiFi bar or it disconnects completely. This happens very often and occurs no matter what rom I have, even stock. I've always felt that the WiFi has always had issues but never got resolved. I've looked around for solutions but not found any. Much appreciated if someone explained or had a solution.
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I completely cannot use Google play, someone please help.
Toggle the Wifi off and then back on a few seconds later.
If this doesnt fix anything then you need to modify your router settings to be compatible.
Don't use 5g on router.
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5GHz networks work fine on this tablet.
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Don't use 5g on router.
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No offense meant, but that's a pretty silly claim. The transmission technology involved (2.4GHz/5GHz) or protocol (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) has no bearing on the color of the Wi-Fi indicator, which indicates just one thing: does a request to Google's secure servers work, or not? It's virtually always a problem with the network setup, be it with the ISP or the router blocking a port. OP should try using a public access point (coffee shop or something) or mobile hotspot to see if they're able to connect that way.
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5GHz networks work fine on this tablet.
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My apologies. There was a lot of discussion concerning the use of 5ghz when the tablet was released. My comment was more of a suggestion than an absolute, and probably wasn't written the best.
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No offense meant, but that's a pretty silly claim. The transmission technology involved (2.4GHz/5GHz) or protocol (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) has no bearing on the color of the Wi-Fi indicator, which indicates just one thing: does a request to Google's secure servers work, or not? It's virtually always a problem with the network setup, be it with the ISP or the router blocking a port. OP should try using a public access point (coffee shop or something) or mobile hotspot to see if they're able to connect that way.
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None taken. I was under the impression that grey/no bars, meant that there was no signal or there was a connection issue. I had no idea that the wifi state on the tablet had anything to do with Googles secure servers. I would like to learn more about that, if you would be so kind.
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None taken. I was under the impression that gray/no bars, meant that there was no signal or there was a connection issue. I had no idea that the wifi state on the tablet had anything to do with Googles secure servers. I would like to learn more about that, if you would be so kind.
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The Wi-Fi state doesn't depend on the connection to Google's servers-- that's why it's quite possible to get full graybars. You'll also notice that if your Wi-Fi goes to sleep, when you wake up a (stock) Android device, you should basically always see it gray first, then turn blue after a second or so (speed depends on how good your connection is).
It's also not as simple as just going to google.com, because you can (usually) do that regardless of the status reported. That's because going to google.com only relies on basic HTTP/HTTPS web traffic through ports 80 and 443, which on most functioning networks are never going to be blocked (mostly because it would make even basic web browsing more or less impossible without workarounds). All of your "real" transactions with Google (Gmail sync, location reporting, etc.) happen through secured connections that run on different ports.
Some networks will block those ports for security reasons (the more ports you have open, the greater the network's functionality-- and its vulnerability to outside attack). In those situations, you'll see a gray bar indicating that while you've got connectivity, you won't be able to establish the connection to Google needed for some services to run (most importantly, any GCM/C2DM-based push notifications).
And no problem. Unfortunately, many OEMs muck around with the iconography, making this distinction meaningless on a pretty wide range of devices. It's annoying because this is one of the more common reasons that Google services don't work.
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The Wi-Fi state doesn't depend on the connection to Google's servers-- that's why it's quite possible to get full graybars. You'll also notice that if your Wi-Fi goes to sleep, when you wake up a (stock) Android device, you should basically always see it gray first, then turn blue after a second or so (speed depends on how good your connection is).
It's also not as simple as just going to google.com, because you can (usually) do that regardless of the status reported. That's because going to google.com only relies on basic HTTP/HTTPS web traffic through ports 80 and 443, which on most functioning networks are never going to be blocked (mostly because it would make even basic web browsing more or less impossible without workarounds). All of your "real" transactions with Google (Gmail sync, location reporting, etc.) happen through secured connections that run on different ports.
Some networks will block those ports for security reasons (the more ports you have open, the greater the network's functionality-- and its vulnerability to outside attack). In those situations, you'll see a gray bar indicating that while you've got connectivity, you won't be able to establish the connection to Google needed for some services to run (most importantly, any GCM/C2DM-based push notifications).
And no problem. Unfortunately, many OEMs muck around with the iconography, making this distinction meaningless on a pretty wide range of devices. It's annoying because this is one of the more common reasons that Google services don't work.
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Would you happen to know if roms can affect wifi reception?
ikenvape said:
Would you happen to know if roms can affect wifi reception?
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ROMs and kernels shouldn't affect reception in a technical sense (unless the kernel developer really messes up or something), but they will affect what your device can do with the signal it has. There are also various modes your device can follow that offer compromises (i.e. for CDMA devices, EVRC-B vs. EVRC-C -- one is better for normal usage, the other holds clearer calls with low signal).
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ROMs and kernels shouldn't affect reception in a technical sense (unless the kernel developer really messes up or something), but they will affect what your device can do with the signal it has. There are also various modes your device can follow that offer compromises (i.e. for CDMA devices, EVRC-B vs. EVRC-C -- one is better for normal usage, the other holds clearer calls with low signal).
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Really appreciate the reply Rirere
I tried several lately. Since day one I have been receiving such poor reception. We have heavy wireless users here ranging from multiple game stations,phones tablets ,PC's etc. All have been receiving full strength except for the N10. From what your saying it seems like I have adjust the router for this one.
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Really appreciate the reply Rirere
I tried several lately. Since day one I have been receiving such poor reception. We have heavy wireless users here ranging from multiple game stations,phones tablets ,PC's etc. All have been receiving full strength except for the N10. From what your saying it seems like I have adjust the router for this one.
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Could you be a little more specific? Android has some nasty Wi-Fi issues (never have as many on my iOS devices), but the situation you describe doesn't sound like it helps. I'm the student manager at a college helpdesk, so we sometimes have this kind of problem in the dorms. If you give some more info about your setup, I might be able to at least point you in the right direction.
Things like what's the make and model of the router, where it's located, how close are neighbors, and so on. You can also use this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ) to see if there's channel interference. If your router is new enough, you could also potentially kick it up to use 5GHz only (although that causes lower speeds the further you get much faster than auto 2.4GHz/5GHz).
Rirere said:
Could you be a little more specific? Android has some nasty Wi-Fi issues (never have as many on my iOS devices), but the situation you describe doesn't sound like it helps. I'm the student manager at a college helpdesk, so we sometimes have this kind of problem in the dorms. If you give some more info about your setup, I might be able to at least point you in the right direction.
Things like what's the make and model of the router, where it's located, how close are neighbors, and so on. You can also use this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ) to see if there's channel interference. If your router is new enough, you could also potentially kick it up to use 5GHz only (although that causes lower speeds the further you get much faster than auto 2.4GHz/5GHz).
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Your too kind Reiere Thank you,
I'm using a Media Link MWN-WAPR150N. I see, it doesn't support 5ghz which seems to be a total bummer. I could have sworn that I purchased a dual band model. It's a wonderful device as I'm not having to constantly power cycle it like in the past. We do catch a neighboring facility's wifi here on our devices so I believe this can be causing interference and it would be best to switch up to a 5ghz router? Definitely will check out the app. Thanks allot. I apologize for the ignorance in this area.
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Your too kind Reiere Thank you,
I'm using a Media Link MWN-WAPR150N. I see, it doesn't support 5ghz which seems to be a total bummer. I could have sworn that I purchased a dual band model. It's a wonderful device as I'm not having to constantly power cycle it like in the past. We do catch a neighboring facility's wifi here on our devices so I believe this can be causing interference and it would be best to switch up to a 5ghz router? Definitely will check out the app. Thanks allot. I apologize for the ignorance in this area.
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You're almost always going to get some degree of interference from other devices. How bad it is depends on the power of your neighbors' rig and its proximity. Other items, such as microwaves can cause temporary disruptions in wireless power, but it's much more unusual these days than it was in the past.
Given the way other devices in your network seem to be functioning alright, it might be a device-side issue. However, before that I would look into a Wi-Fi analyzing app like I posted earlier and try setting your network to a particular channel. If you pick one clear of your neighbors' wireless network, then if it's set to auto (which it probably is), it should adjust around yours and grant you a clear channel. (two networks on auto can occasionally snarl with one another, and the one with more power is going to win. Since yours is a single-band N home router, there's a good chance you'd lose with the routers out these days).
Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
If you have wifi then you can use it withn some meters like 100m but that too depends on your wifi range. But if you are thinking something like using home's wifi from any place dat is too far then it is impossible
Thought so... maybe someone could come up with that soon in near future
DigitalCocaine said:
Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
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You mean so that you're not using mobile data at all?
This will always be impossible; unless of course you could extend WiFi range to miles and beyond. This is also not likely to happen, consumer devices such as routers and access points have strict limits on broadcast power. Any more than that, and you need to have a license. Also, considering the fact that the WiFi band is already congested at low power levels (we're talking about milliwatts), I don't think your neighbours would appreciate having a several kilowatt radio transmitter blocking their wireless signal.
Needless to say, your phone would also need a huge transmitter in order for two-way communication with the base station to work. This is not going to happen on battery power.
Now, if you're trying to access your home internet connection, you can use a Virtual Private Network or SSH tunnelling. But there's no way you're going to avoid having to use mobile data.
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You mean so that you're not using mobile data at all?
This will always be impossible; unless of course you could extend WiFi range to miles and beyond. This is also not likely to happen, consumer devices such as routers and access points have strict limits on broadcast power. Any more than that, and you need to have a license. Also, considering the fact that the WiFi band is already congested at low power levels (we're talking about milliwatts), I don't think your neighbours would appreciate having a several kilowatt radio transmitter blocking their wireless signal.
Needless to say, your phone would also need a huge transmitter in order for two-way communication with the base station to work. This is not going to happen on battery power.
Now, if you're trying to access your home internet connection, you can use a Virtual Private Network or SSH tunnelling. But there's no way you're going to avoid having to use mobile data.
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Can I use my mobile data but increase my speed which is similar to my home internet connection?
DigitalCocaine said:
Can I use my mobile data but increase my speed which is similar to my home internet connection?
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Google Chrome for Android has a feature called "Reduce Data Usage" which uses Google's servers to compress data and thus reduce loading times and data usage.
You can find this feature by going to Chrome settings -> Bandwidth Management -> "Reduce Data Usage"
For me, it reduced data usage by 32%. As the amount of data transferred is proportional to wait times, less data = faster.
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Google Chrome for Android has a feature called "Reduce Data Usage" which uses Google's servers to compress data and thus reduce loading times and data usage.
You can find this feature by going to Chrome settings -> Bandwidth Management -> "Reduce Data Usage"
For me, it reduced data usage by 32%. As the amount of data transferred is proportional to wait times, less data = faster.
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I should try this method, thanks but is there a way to speed up my wifi hotspot using my phone data?
DigitalCocaine said:
I should try this method, thanks but is there a way to speed up my wifi hotspot using my phone data?
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No. You can't multiplex/bridge a WiFi connection and mobile data connection easily. And even if you could, it's unlikely that you would notice an increase in speed. I'm afraid the only solution for that is to get a better device or better network.
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No. You can't multiplex/bridge a WiFi connection and mobile data connection easily. And even if you could, it's unlikely that you would notice an increase in speed. I'm afraid the only solution for that is to get a better device or better network.
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Actually, you can: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...d-and-destroy-your-data-cap-faster-than-ever/
Product F(RED) said:
Actually, you can: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...d-and-destroy-your-data-cap-faster-than-ever/
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Yes, this might speed up downloads slightly but it doesn't help you browse the web any faster. Even if you could pull a couple extra megabits/sec, the latency wouldn't be divisible in two.
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Yes, this might speed up downloads slightly but it doesn't help you browse the web any faster. Even if you could pull a couple extra megabits/sec, the latency wouldn't be divisible in two.
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Oh, yeah that I know. I meant for downloads.
DigitalCocaine said:
Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
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I found a solution . Take a long cable and connect to your router . And get internet from the end of that cable
Just kidding
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