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HTC Wizard as Access Point?

It would be really neat to be able to put my Wizard into 'host' mode on the wifi, and share my EDGE access out to wifi clients nearby. It'd be like having my own wifi hotspot in my pocket.
Is this possible?

this post and most others like them gets ignored by most of this forum.
Or so it seems from my month on and off reading.
Ofcoarse this is possible?
will software or service agreements allow it? most likly not.

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thogue said:
this post and most others like them gets ignored by most of this forum.
Or so it seems from my month on and off reading.
Ofcoarse this is possible?
will software or service agreements allow it? most likly not.
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I wonder why, I think its a nice thing to have, and there exists AP with 3g cards like LINKSYS WRT54G3G
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with software it would be possible i think
just a matter of making the device rount
the wifi to the connection
but edge and even 3g is not really fast enough to share with anybody without comming down to a crawl
which is prob why there have been no demand and so
no developing for the field

gprs/edge > BT > PC >WiFi > WLAN
easy to do, conect to data service throught your computer with BT or USB then in settings share internet connection (via Wifi) with other users.

draco42 said:
It would be really neat to be able to put my Wizard into 'host' mode on the wifi, and share my EDGE access out to wifi clients nearby. It'd be like having my own wifi hotspot in my pocket.
Is this possible?
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Check this link :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1
another painfull way, but may work for u.

I think it has something to do either with no one caring/caring about terms of service possibly.

Why is WMWiFiRouter always on?

Why is WMWiFiRouter always on and everybody can always connect even when I'm not running the software? It seems like the only way to stop it is to turn off the WiFi on my phone. Is there a way I can get it to run only when I want too? Is there a limitation on how many people can connect to it? Thanks for your help and time!

Apota said:
Why is WMWiFiRouter always on and everybody can always connect even when I'm not running the software? It seems like the only way to stop it is to turn off the WiFi on my phone. Is there a way I can get it to run only when I want too? Is there a limitation on how many people can connect to it?
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From what I've seen, WMWifiRouter uses a peer-to-peer wireless network that it uses to essentially "forward" packets to the cellular network. The thing is, shutting down WMWifiRouter doesn't shut down the peer-to-peer wireless network, so it still broadcasts that the network exists. It won't actually do anything with that network (i.e. there's no cellular network access via it), but it maintains it. So, you can either shutdown wifi, as you've noticed, or you can have your phone connect to a different wifi network. Either works.
As for the last question, I don't know if there's much of a limitation, but I would imagine that it's probably dependent upon the limitations of your hardware or Windows Mobile. Theoretically, depending upon the subnet, it probably supports up to 253 users (x.x.x.2 - x.x.x.254), but it would probably choke and die from performance reasons before that.

Well, this brings up some other issues then. I thought that it would only broadcast a few feet because I assumed the power my cell phone puts out is very weak. This isn't the case. I tested it by walking down the street and I could stilll connect up to 6 houses down the street. That means that anybody within 200-300 feet can connect to the internet through my cell phone since it's unsecured. This worries me, especually since unlimited people can connect to it. If I'm in a public place or a hotel, etc. where I could be using it, so can tons of other people. This can be a real big problem. Is there a solution to this?
Another thing is that even though you aren't running the WMWiFiRouter software and if you have your WiFi turned on people can still connect to your phone. Thanks!
Sogarth said:
From what I've seen, WMWifiRouter uses a peer-to-peer wireless network that it uses to essentially "forward" packets to the cellular network. The thing is, shutting down WMWifiRouter doesn't shut down the peer-to-peer wireless network, so it still broadcasts that the network exists. It won't actually do anything with that network (i.e. there's no cellular network access via it), but it maintains it. So, you can either shutdown wifi, as you've noticed, or you can have your phone connect to a different wifi network. Either works.
As for the last question, I don't know if there's much of a limitation, but I would imagine that it's probably dependent upon the limitations of your hardware or Windows Mobile. Theoretically, depending upon the subnet, it probably supports up to 253 users (x.x.x.2 - x.x.x.254), but it would probably choke and die from performance reasons before that.
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I have version .85, is there a later version and if so how do I get it? Is there a way to setup security on it or via the NIC driver? Thanks.

WiFi Sharing

I've successfully installed and used the WiFi sharing app but have found a few things that would be useful such as:
Variable length, alpha and/or numeric Key for access.
Ability to turn ON/OFF the SSID broadcast.
MAC Address Filtering (limit access to certain MAC addresses).
Ability to support WEP and WPA (one or the other).
Anyone have any thoughts on this or registry mods that may implement the above? I just don't feel very secure with broadcasting the SSID and not having a more robust key or encryption.

how did you get the wifi sharing to work? i have tried numerous avenues, and two different cab. files, but i cannot get it to work. here is the short thread i started to get some help, but i still cant get it to work. any suggesttions you have? thanks i really need this to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674769

I just installed the .cab file, re-booted the HTC HD2, and when I turned on sharing I just entered the desired SSID and a 10 digit numeric key for my PC to use when logging into the HTC. That's it, nothing special.
I'm just looking for alternatives that do NOT broadcast the SSID and have better encription and key alternatives.

The GrCornholio said:
I just installed the .cab file, re-booted the HTC HD2, and when I turned on sharing I just entered the desired SSID and a 10 digit numeric key for my PC to use when logging into the HTC. That's it, nothing special.
I'm just looking for alternatives that do NOT broadcast the SSID and have better encription and key alternatives.
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I honestly haven't seen any solutions that incorporate all that, though I have seen the same question asked several times. It's not really an perfect solution (mainly the fact it only does ad-hoc connections), just gets the job done in a pinch.
cornholio, which exact cab did you use that worked for you? There's a couple available, and we're still trying to get one of them to work for poor tippingvan here...

I use "XDA-Tom_Codon CM Wifi Internet Sharing"

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I use "XDA-Tom_Codon CM Wifi Internet Sharing"
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Thanks!!
tippingvan, I don't think that's one of the ones you already tried, is it? I never tried that one on my HD2, only my TP2, but here it is if you haven't

sirphunkee, i have it on my hd2 and tp2, it works great on both .

mr8820 said:
sirphunkee, i have it on my hd2 and tp2, it works great on both .
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Thanks for the confirmation..I had suspected it would work, just haven't tried it m'self. But...I think soon I'm going to need to just try each one of the (at least 3) cabs floating around for wifi sharing and see if I can figure out the exact differences

sirphunkee said:
Thanks!!
tippingvan, I don't think that's one of the ones you already tried, is it? I never tried that one on my HD2, only my TP2, but here it is if you haven't
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thanks alot guys for the help! your right, i haven't tried this one yet. getting it now and will let you know!

tippingvan said:
thanks alot guys for the help! your right, i haven't tried this one yet. getting it now and will let you know!
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still doesnt work, this one says that there is a connection on my phone, but not on my laptop. I'm gonna try another laptop and see if it works.

the xda wifi sharing is working great on my TMOUS HD2, but I dont understand the different options under "internet connection" heading. wap.voicestream...., internet2.voicestream....,etc.
currently using internet3.voicestream and all is fine. But it seems to only allow a tethered connection when I have my wifi toggled 'on'. what if Im out of wifi range?

uhm i use Tom Codon's CMinternetsharing but i wish i could pair to more devices. i want it to be a wifi router not wireless tether. help?

808Granato said:
the xda wifi sharing is working great on my TMOUS HD2, but I dont understand the different options under "internet connection" heading. wap.voicestream...., internet2.voicestream....,etc.
currently using internet3.voicestream and all is fine. But it seems to only allow a tethered connection when I have my wifi toggled 'on'. what if Im out of wifi range?
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In my experience, if you use the epc.tmobile.com or wap.voicestream.com, you may possibly run into 2 issues. Both of those can be throttled, and if you use wifi sharing while roaming, it may deny access and all you get is a white page telling you your roaming, internet plan not appliable or some crap.
On my hd2, if i use internet2.voicestream.com, i can both roam with it while wifi sharing and i don't get throttled. Have not messed with internet3 but that apn is for vpn users, you get a direct ip vs. a kinda nat ip on the rest. Again, this is my experience. Your milage may vary

[Q] Pairing with TF101 tablet

I have looked but can't find a solution. I have the transformer 101 tablet and can't get it to connect to my tmobile mytouch 4g. I'm posting in this forum because I can get the tablet to connect to my computer so I figure it has something to do with the phone. I'm trying to get a bluetooth connection so I can tether. I don't use much data but I'd like to know I could do it with the tablet and make a connection if wifi not around. I have rooted and installed stock Android 2.3.4. I don't know much about Bluetooth or WIFi but from my readings I'm think it might have something to do with PAN BT profile. If this is the case, is this a software thing? Is their a ROM that has the PAN BT profile? I like some of the Sense Apps so I'd like to stay with a stable Sense ROM. I'd like to be able to stream Navigator when I need it or brows the internet while waiting in the parking lot for my husband. Yes I can do it on the phone but my eyes are bad and a larger screen is so nice. I don't come anywhere near a GB of data each month...just want to be able to connect when sitting in my car and give myself a bigger screen.

I must be missing something here. Why not install wifi tether or one of the myriad sense 3.5 ROMS in the dev section that ALL have a working wifi hotspot?

Well my thinking may be wrong on how Bluetooth and wifi work but I was thinking there isn't always a wifi connection, but there would always be a signal with bluetooth connecting the tablet to the phones 3G and 4G. I was hoping that, if tablet paired to phone when traveling, I could use the bigger screen on the tablet and navigation would run like on the phone. I'd like to use the tablet as much as possible and I'm thinking that in the country there wouldn't be any wifi hotspots. Sorry if I've got this all wrong. Most of the time I would use wifi and I've only used that at home or work....never hotspots.
As far as ROM's go, I was thinking of the Virtuous Affinity or Unity ROM's but didn't know if they were going to give me the bluetooth connection I was looking for. I can't remember but thought I read that you couldn't do some things in 3.5 that you could do with ealier versions. Do you know why the tablet can't connect with the MyTouch? Is it the PAN BT profile. I know the tablet doesn't do adhoc. Sorry but I did try to read up on it. I was just thinking of the message I see. They are paired but they wont connect. I click on the bluetooth device but it doesn't connect

I've tried to understand what your asking but I'm still confused. Are you trying to make a wifi hotspot off your phone, then connect your transformer to the hotspot, to use the internet?
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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d2dthetide said:
Well my thinking may be wrong on how Bluetooth and wifi work but I was thinking there isn't always a wifi connection, but there would always be a signal with bluetooth connecting the tablet to the phones 3G and 4G. I was hoping that, if tablet paired to phone when traveling, I could use the bigger screen on the tablet and navigation would run like on the phone. I'd like to use the tablet as much as possible and I'm thinking that in the country there wouldn't be any wifi hotspots. Sorry if I've got this all wrong. Most of the time I would use wifi and I've only used that at home or work....never hotspots.
As far as ROM's go, I was thinking of the Virtuous Affinity or Unity ROM's but didn't know if they were going to give me the bluetooth connection I was looking for. I can't remember but thought I read that you couldn't do some things in 3.5 that you could do with ealier versions. Do you know why the tablet can't connect with the MyTouch? Is it the PAN BT profile. I know the tablet doesn't do adhoc (point one). Sorry but I did try to read up on it. I was just thinking of the message I see. They are paired but they wont connect. I click on the bluetooth device but it doesn't connect
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There a couple things wrong with this post 1) the tablet does support and use AD-HOC tethering. I know that for a fact because I've had people connect to my home network via my tablet just to show off. Pretty embarrassing making them use my Android Tablet to connect their iPad to my home network. 2) If you are just wanting to use your tablet as a navigation unit, use the Google maps while you are connected to WiFi to find directions to where you want to go, then press the navigate button. It'll work w/o a data signal. I've done it several times. 3) you don't need blue-tooth to bridge the Tablet to the phone. This doesn't work like Blackberries and the playbook. You can use the Wi-Fi Tether .apk from Google's source code to do just that. [http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list] 4) There has to be a blue tooth stack installed on the Phone, and on the Tablet that will allow them to share blue tooth connections for Internet. I have TF101 and have yet to find such a BT stack.

Essential PH1 hot spot not connecting to mobile data

Hi, I'm starting this thread having searched for solutions in other threads and not having found it.
As background, I'm running Pie 9.0 with the August patch update. I got the phone in March and when I saw the pop-up for the update, I installed it, without doing any background checks (not my usual MO) - which is not to say my hot spot was working and then stopped, I just hadn't used it before then. My previous cell was the trusty Samsung S3 in its various flavours - mainly for the small form factor and frankly it was enough phone for me.
Anyway it seems that the PH1 "hot spot" works fine as a *repeater* when I'm connected to wifi but as soon as I turn off my wifi or am out of reach of a wifi and want my hot spot to connect to my mobile data, there's no internet connection to any device connected to my hot spot, even though both my PH1 and the device(s) show as "connected" to each other. internet on my PH1 works just fine in these instances.
What's the secret handshake to make this work?

buzzwords said:
Hi, I'm starting this thread having searched for solutions in other threads and not having found it.
As background, I'm running Pie 9.0 with the August patch update. I got the phone in March and when I saw the pop-up for the update, I installed it, without doing any background checks (not my usual MO) - which is not to say my hot spot was working and then stopped, I just hadn't used it before then. My previous cell was the trusty Samsung S3 in its various flavours - mainly for the small form factor and frankly it was enough phone for me.
Anyway it seems that the PH1 "hot spot" works fine as a *repeater* when I'm connected to wifi but as soon as I turn off my wifi or am out of reach of a wifi and want my hot spot to connect to my mobile data, there's no internet connection to any device connected to my hot spot, even though both my PH1 and the device(s) show as "connected" to each other. internet on my PH1 works just fine in these instances.
What's the secret handshake to make this work?
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I don't have any trouble on TMO, but two thoughts for you.
Try adding "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" to the build.prop file. You need root for this.
Maybe lengthen the TTL (time to live) on the connecting device. Google for your device/OS how to do this.

ktmom said:
I don't have any trouble on TMO, but two thoughts for you.
Try adding "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" to the build.prop file. You need root for this.
Maybe lengthen the TTL (time to live) on the connecting device. Google for your device/OS how to do this.
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Hmm... so root my phone...
Haven't rooted anything yet... so this is new territory for me.
Don't think it's the TTL, since it's the same with *any* device connected to my phone...
Thanks,
Taz

Mine doesn't work when bluetooth is turned on, for some reason. You could try turning BT off, and see if that helps

dsip said:
Mine doesn't work when bluetooth is turned on, for some reason. You could try turning BT off, and see if that helps
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Well, I turned bluetooth off and when I try to connect to google.com with Chrome, my iPad says "This site can't be reached". When I switch to another wifi source, Goolge is found!
So... what's the culprit in my PH1??
TIA...

Do you have tethering support on your cell plan?
It is of course always possible some other app is interfering. VPN, ad blocker, ect. But honestly, in all likelihood you need to bypass the tethering check as I described earlier.
If that step doesn't work by itself, in a terminal app with a root prompt enter the command:
settings put global tether_dun_required 0

ktmom said:
Do you have tethering support on your cell plan?
It is of course always possible some other app is interfering. VPN, ad blocker, ect. But honestly, in all likelihood you need to bypass the tethering check as I described earlier.
If that step doesn't work by itself, in a terminal app with a root prompt enter the command:
settings put global tether_dun_required 0
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Thanks ktmom, I guess I'm surprised that yours (and others'?) work without this mod and I'm needing to root mine? I have no other apps such as the ones you mention on my phone so I'm really confused why this simple connection isn't working on my phone.
Taz

buzzwords said:
Thanks ktmom, I guess I'm surprised that yours (and others'?) work without this mod and I'm needing to root mine? I have no other apps such as the ones you mention on my phone so I'm really confused why this simple connection isn't working on my phone.
Taz
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But you didn't answer this question... Do you have tethering support on your cell plan?