Seeing a lot of people posting about backlight bleed on this phone, but it's difficult to figure out exactly what is "reasonable" to expect from the panel.
For me, I got two Moto X Pure from Amazon. The first device had a spot of really bad backlight bleed in the lower left corner. The second one has backlight bleed in the lower left and upper right corner, as well as all along the right hand side. However, it is nowhere near as bad. In both cases, the bleed has a more yellow-ish tint than pure white.
Not sure if I should attempt a third exchange to try to get one without any bleed, or if the panel/construction of this phone means it will always have these spots of backlight bleed.
Please post and/or vote regarding what you observe on your device so I (as well as others) have a reference as to what to expect from the screen on this device. Assume that checking for bleed is done with a 100% black background with 100% brightness in a dark room. Extremely slim, somewhat whiter edges are okay, but larger, yellow-ish spots are considered bleed.
Thanks in advance.
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I was looking at some videos online of the TF yesterday and I noticed that most of the people that have the dock close it from the top of the tablet. Being that the dock only holds to the bottom of the tab, is it possible that the chassis is getting stressed causing light bleed? I know there are people out there that dont have the light bleed issue. I am wondering if those people use the keyboard dock or not.
Just a theory
I have light bleed from the right-middle side of the display. It was like this out of the box. No dock (yet.)
I have 7 (seven) light bleeds 2 on the left hand side, one in left top corner, 3 on the bottom and one in the middle on the right hand side, no doc but i've noticed that when you twist the tablet slightly the bleeds getting brighter and stay this way for some time so there may be something in yours theory
My theory is that Asus had to cut lots of corners to get the TF to as cheap as it is and the bleeding and cheapo plastic casing is a consequence of this. :/
Actually, I think it's related to the IPS screens, because the iPad/iPad 2 have had similar light bleeding.
When I dock the tablet, the light bleed becomes more apparent. Yes, the pressure does something, but it can't be fixed either way.
Just FYI. A lot of LED LCD Samsung TV users have noticed bleeding from the sides of those TVs and have fixed or helped the situation by relaxing the chassis screws in those areas.
You can search for more info about it at the AVS forums.
frosty5689 said:
When I dock the tablet, the light bleed becomes more apparent. Yes, the pressure does something, but it can't be fixed either way.
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I have noticed this as well... all of the bleeding on mine seems to be more obvious when it has been docked and in use for a period of time. I was going to ask the question to everyone else (if they were also having that experience). I guess I don't need to now.
I've had light bleed from day one and don't have a dock.
Finally decided to test this light bleed thing. Max brightness in complete darkness showed no lightbleed. So, it's not chronic to every unit.
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Finally decided to test this light bleed thing. Max brightness in complete darkness showed no lightbleed. So, it's not chronic to every unit.
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Transformers like yours seem to be the exception rather than the norm though.
akashhhhh said:
Finally decided to test this light bleed thing. Max brightness in complete darkness showed no lightbleed. So, it's not chronic to every unit.
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just did the same. full brightness in a dark room. no light bleed. guess i just got lucky [knock on wood]
I finally got a TF and the Dock. I used it for about three weeks without the dock and th light bleed slowly started showing up I haven't noticed more or less light bleed when in the dock but I have notice that it is most noticable at the bottom right corner and I happen to be right handed.
I don't know if there is any weight to my original dock theory but the light bleed has deff gotten worse in the last couple weeks
Be honest. Does your Transformer have light bleed or not.
Yes - Minor
Worst Section: Dim in bottom left corner (spreads to about 1.5 inches from edge)
We have two 16gb Transformers in the house. Both have a small amount of lightbleed on the bottom edge.
I consider it a minor issue. Doesn't bother me much at all.
Yes but it is minor. top right
Light bleed is expected with IPS panels, thats just the way they work. My iPad 2 had light bleed 2, it used an IPS panel. My G2X has light bleed, uses a IPS panel.
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Yes but it is minor. top right
Light bleed is expected with IPS panels, thats just the way they work. My iPad 2 had light bleed 2, it used an IPS panel. My G2X has light bleed, uses a IPS panel.
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+1 you should of really added an option.. SORT OF. I voted no because it was very minor and not really noticeable unless 0.2 inch light bleed from the bottom bothers you.
It has nothing to do with ASUS or the Transformer. It's just the way the screen technology was made.
very very minor light bleed at the bottom. not at all distracting, dont really notice it unless youre looking for it.
Yes. In a dark room, with a dark screen, there is the slightest amount of light leak. More than I've ever seen on this type of screen, but less than it would take to make me notice if I wasn't looking for it.
But then maybe I've been spoiled by my n1 screen!
bottom right corner, doesnt affect the use though.
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Great, keep your results coming. I thought about multiple selections such as "small amount, it doesn't bother me" or "huge amount" but I just wanted to keep it simple. You do or do not have light bleed. I see this leak is common on IPS screens but some are just worse than others. Mine bleeds out from the lower left 1" at its source and continues up the entire left side. It is 2 weeks old and was this bad right out of the box! Thanks to everyone participating!
I can't find any. I have B60 serial.
Yes mine B40 does. As others have said, it's not bad enough to effect use, just a bit annoying. But we've been through so many threads regarding light bleed I think we all accept it at this point.
My B50 does too, bad one on the center left side, 2 smaller ones in the bottom center, a few really small ones on the right side, no noticeable bleeds on the top half.
90% of them are only visible at full brightness on a dark background, in a dark room. It doesn't bother me.
I have light bleed on all sides to a greater or lesser degree. It bothers me only a little though.
deadman3000 said:
I have light bleed on all sides to a greater or lesser degree. It bothers me only a little though.
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Me too Deadman3000, I'm not that annoyed by it. A little light leak seems to be inherent with the IPS screen technology. My new one is worse than my first one that had that lost it's screen completely. It had maybe 5 mm of leak at best and the second one has 25 mm of leak in places. The first was a B5 tablet and my new one is a B6. But I think by watching the posts throughout the day it is pretty consistant that 2 out of 3 have enough light bleed to bother owners enough to post a yes. That is the answer I was looking for. I notice that bringing up this issue seems to bother people and I would agree that there are posts everyday about it but when I searched, I couldn't find an actual number to put with this issue. So I apologize to those that were offended that hey had to endure yet another light bleed thread but I think we now have a little more knowledge today than we did yesterday... That is the purpose of our forum, to learn.
I have had my Transformer since launch. I have to say, until I started looking for it I never noticed any light bleed, even then it is minimal at best and definitely does not bother me. I have been reading about B40, B50, B60 serials and was wondering if anyone with a B30 serial is having any of the build quality issues ect. that everyone else seems to having. I have a B30 serial and I am quite happy with my device.
Yep, only a little bit on the bottom left corner. I never realised it was a bad thing until a week or so after I got mine I saw all the threads here about it I think it looks kinda cool when I'm reading a book.
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I have light bleed on all sides to a greater or lesser degree. It bothers me only a little though.
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Same here. But I don't pay much attention
Most of the time, my brightness is low, so not seeing it much
My previous B50 tab had minor light bleed at the bottom, particularly the lower right. It was noticeble only at Max bridgeness in the dark.
My current B60 tab had no light bleed at all
Pretty substantial on my B50, from all sides but the top. It's not unusable by any stretch, but it ain't pretty. Almost seems like it's become worse over the last month. Is that possible, or is it my imagination?
Yes, but you cant hold it at an angle and see the backlight, its just some coming through the back of the panel and its only visible if you have a bright backlit screen that is basically all black and you are in a very dark space. Its no different than any other LCD item I have used, even iProducts.
Ok well I would like to get peoples feedback and opinions on their screens.
My story. Broke my GNote II instead of paying to replace LCD decided to upgrade with my carrier.
First Note 3 I bought was bright with nice whites and great viewing angles. But it has the dreaded pinkinsh purple screen tint issue in the lower 3rd of the screen more so on the right side. This is subtle and is less evident in brighter conditions or higher screen brightness. At low brightness and in dark environments it is particularly visible on white and grey backgrounds. Went to store to exchange and they refused given they could not see the defect. I came online here searched around and it seems this has been an issue on the GS4 and people have mentioned it on the new Note 3.
Convinced my carrier to send me a replacement and I will return the original to them. Well got the replacement 3-4 days ago. The unit seems quite different. First off the screen is overall a bit more yellow at face on viewing angles and perhaps a hair less bright at similar settings though hard to tell. The bottom is not color shifted puple. The screen color is more homogenous. However the viewing angles are completely different. Here while the brightness stays goo dlike the first when angling the screen, the colors shift to a more aqua color with minor angle variation. (guessing 20-30*) whereas the original unit has virtually no color shift at almost 90*.
I probably have to send back a unit in the coming day or 2 and make a final decision. In theory I could try to ask for a third model, however it was with a lot of difficulty and threats to leave my carrier that they relented in the first replacement. SO I likely will have to stick with one of these or return both and use my somewhat broken note 2 and wait for something else.
I am wondering if any of you out here have similar pink/purple tint issues at one end of your screen. Or if you have issues with significant white color shift when angling your screen more than 30* in either portrait or landscape. Also if good or bad can you check build date on your phone (should be under battery). FInally did you or will you replace it? Was replacement better or worse?
Also if in my shoes would you go for the better looking screen with the pink issue or the more consistent looking screen that is a bit more blue yellow.
Thanks!
lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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I know you did and I posted some long posts there and the thread kind of died.
I have some specific questions here as well as asking what I should do in my case.
I had a note 2 and remember there being perseus kernel and with STweaks one could shift color etc and make it how you like. I am thinking going with the more uniform color model as I am sure the slight yellow tint can be corrected and the blue tint on viewing angles is no worse than my note 2 looking back so I will get used to it I imagine. That said the first screen really has great screen but the purplish pink right bottom corner bugs me on white and grey screens ( not noticeable on high brightness though) and often reading on websites etc indoors I notice it enough that it bugs me.....
So for anyone who cares here is an update on my plan. The more uniform note 3 is more yellow/green tinted whites compared to the other one that is whiter/redder. That said if I use one of these screen filter style apps that exist in the play store, I can modify the overall screen into however I like.
Downside is that it means a persistently running app to do it with whatever effect on screen longevity and battery.
Now on my Note 2 which is also yellower, I was running perseus kernel and the s tweaks app and was able at the kernel level to modify the color to get better whites. I imagine it is only a matter of time before someone can do that for our note 3. I can handle the viewing angle color shift as the device is in my hand and not on a table when i use it where it might be off angle viewing by a large amount. And even then, the tinting of white has a bluish shift and now worse than a yellowing shift my wifes iphone has off angle or my note 2 did.
Would love tohear from others and what their screens are like and or developers who might have the means of modifying color at kernel level the way Andreilux did on the note 2
I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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You checked 13 notes and 12 of them were either yellow tint or what gray lining issue?
How did you manage to check so many.
Can you check the following. Look at the phone screen face on the tilt either up down or side to side about 30 degrees and tell me if the white on the screen turns bluish.
One of my phones does this and has the yellower whites. The other does not and has better whites but has some purplish discoloration in the lower right part of the phone.
Any one here try a new kernel from the android development sections?
Some of them talk about being able to modify screen color. Am wondering if this can be a fix for my issues.
My screen has been like this since day one. In the pictures you can see brighter back light bleeding from the top center/right, the right middle/bottom, and the bottom center/left. Also, a bit of light shines through the white bezel in the bottom center which now that I notice, won't stop bugging me.
Was hoping it would go away but I got this on Amazon so an exchange would be easy as long as it comes back in stock soon (white 32GB).
Is mine the only one plagued with this? Keep in mind that this is with brightness turned all the way up on a black screen.
Yea I have screen bleed at two spots but it doesn't bother me unless for some reason it starts to expand then it will become an issue.
Most LCD panels, which are backlit, will have some light bleed around the edges. You can return the phone for a different one, but you'll probably have the same issue. It is the nature of backlit LCD panels. AMOLEDs don't have this problem since each pixel has its own light source.
Thanks for the input guys!
I don't seem to have this issue on mine. I can't notice anything like this when I turn on Moto Display. Is there an easy way for me to test this out?
the nature of LCD. one of the reasons I enjoy amoled as well.
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I have this screen bleeding too.
I've got my device yesterday and started "Dead Pixel Test", on the black screen i saw the screen-bleeding.
All my previous devices didn't have a screen bleeding, or it wasn't noticeable like that.
My MXP has yellow screen bleed in the lower right corner. I can't see it on moto display notifications but if I'm in a darker room with the screen brightness at 50% or above, I can see it on a dark background like the app drawer. I suppose it isn't a big deal and I don't even notice it in most conditions but I was wondering if the majority of us have the same issue. If it's not common, I'm within my window to exchange at Amazon. Thanks for any replies.
If it was me I would get a replacement mine does not have any backlight bleed. If you don't really care about it just live with it.
While some screen bleed on LCD panels is to be expected, the fact that you say your screen bleed is yellow sounds like an actual panel defect. I'd exchange it if possible.
Screen bleed is common for LCD screens, to some extent. It should be very slight, a whitish color, and should be somewhat even around the edges of the display. It sounds like yours may be a bit defective. Can you post a picture?