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Is the Droid RAZD M bootloader unlockable?

Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!

yairku said:
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
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Not currently. possibly never.
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Sad to hear that. Thanks.

yairku said:
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
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Are you trying to get the subsidized version and then unlock it? hehe I couldn't think of another reason why to not get the Developer Edition with it being unlocked to start off with. :cyclops: Not a bad idea though but nice try...probably would go that route if the developer community could unlock it as well.

Are they the same price? Is one off I'd the contract

ncvikingx97 said:
Are they the same price? Is one off I'd the contract
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Yes, they are both the same price off contract. If you think you might ever want to unlock and root, you should get the Developer's Edition. It's still covered by warranty until you unlock it, so if you don't unlock, it's just like getting the regular one. However, you get the potential to unlock, and if you decide to sell a few months later, it will likely have a higher resale value (at least to those of us who want to unlock it, anyway).

Can you get the dev on verizon? Thankd

ncvikingx97 said:
Can you get the dev on verizon? Thankd
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Yes, but you have to order it from Motorola. Verizon stores don't sell it.

Really doesn't matter tho because 99% of people are going to buy it from Verizon with a locked in bootloader so you're not likely to see much dev for unlocked versions. So if almost everyone is using a workaround you'll have to use it even tho it's not needed. I hope it gets cracked tho
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Clienterror said:
Really doesn't matter tho because 99% of people are going to buy it from Verizon with a locked in bootloader so you're not likely to see much dev for unlocked versions. So if almost everyone is using a workaround you'll have to use it even tho it's not needed. I hope it gets cracked tho
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Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check out http://aosp.us/ they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way

mattlgroff said:
Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check ou, they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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Are you sure that they are the real root ? It looks suspicious.. :cyclops: ..

simpledave said:
Are you sure that they are the real root ? It looks suspicious.. :cyclops: ..
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...says the guy who seems to have been around for 2 mins. Do you know who Matt is? LOL...

I'm new to Moto devices, I do not know who Matt is although I think I've seen his name someplace? Lol. I doubt it'll ever happen but I hope that theyll crack the VZW version of the M. That'd be cool
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mattlgroff said:
Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check out http://aosp.us/ they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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No no I didn't mean there won't be devs for this phone I ment that probably almost everyone will be buying it from Verizon IE locked bootloader so there probably won't be much if any dev for the unlocked version bought from Motorola. I know they'll be deving and work arounds I'm not THAT silly
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It's the other way around actually, the development for the locked bootloader version will be severely limited by the inability to root, whereas the development for the unlocked developer edition is proceeding quickly. The one significant hurdle for source compiled ROMs and kernels right now is the Prima WiFi driver, which does not compile properly and the proprietary source code was not released.
Unless and until a viable root exploit is achieved for the stock version there will be very little development for it.

cellzealot said:
It's the other way around actually, the development for the locked bootloader version will be severely limited by the inability to root, whereas the development for the unlocked developer edition is proceeding quickly. The one significant hurdle for source compiled ROMs and kernels right now is the Prima WiFi driver, which does not compile properly and the proprietary source code was not released.
Unless and until a viable root exploit is achieved for the stock version there will be very little development for it.
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Dang that sucks when I had the original Atrix wr got lucky and got a leak to unlock it. I'm not sure if Google has locked it like moto but they have pretty brutal locks. Hope you guys get root soon then hopefully a BL unlocked I'd be interested in going to the M cause my s3 is a little big for my tastes and I've always loved the Razr line.
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root is easily achieved once the bootloader is unlocked. As CellZealot said, the main hangup and the piece I've been banging my head on for the past 5 days is how to get the Prima Wifi Driver to work. I have a vendor setup and if/when I can get the prima driver built I'll move on.

jimmydafish said:
root is easily achieved once the bootloader is unlocked. As CellZealot said, the main hangup and the piece I've been banging my head on for the past 5 days is how to get the Prima Wifi Driver to work. I have a vendor setup and if/when I can get the prima driver built I'll move on.
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Threadjack for a minute, but do you or your team have any idea of trying to get the M working on AT&T or T-Mobile? I'm assuming it won't work on the regular M unless we somehow get root or a bootloader unlock, but maybe it could be done on the Developer Edition?

freak4dell said:
Threadjack for a minute, but do you or your team have any idea of trying to get the M working on AT&T or T-Mobile? I'm assuming it won't work on the regular M unless we somehow get root or a bootloader unlock, but maybe it could be done on the Developer Edition?
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The radios are there to work on US GSM but as of right now they are not able to find a US GSM signal. We are looking in to getting that rectified as well.

jimmydafish said:
The radios are there to work on US GSM but as of right now they are not able to find a US GSM signal. We are looking in to getting that rectified as well.
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Awesome. It would probably be a lot cheaper for me to get an M from the US than trying to import one from Australia or the i from the UK, so if you guys can get it working on US GSM networks, that will be great.

Anybody have an update on unlocking the bootloader

I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.

We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.

ryanbg said:
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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pimpmaneaton said:
Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming

It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...

Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.

Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.

[Q] Re-group for finding a way to root?

Hello! I know that today there is no root for KK 4.4.2 with Locked BL. But I can not find any answer to idea why we can not take 2 phones (A with unlocked BL running KK 4.4.2 and B with locked BL on KK 4.4.2) and using dump make B as clone of A? What is preventing to do so? QFuse? Special signature like ssh on iPhone? If phone A passed all signature checks while getting 4.4.2 OTA why we can not do the same for phone B?
Are there any team which is trying to find a way to root or everybody works separately? Maybe it's right time to re-group, share the information, analyze what we have and try to find new weak points?

Problem is the phone B with locked BL has /system partition write-protected and there is no way to flash a rooted dump from phone A into it.
Unlocked BL doesn't check signatures (which is what it means to have an unlocked BL) while locked BL does check for signatures (which are impossible to spoof), so you're not getting past that with a ROM dump.

GnatGoSplat said:
Unlocked BL doesn't check signatures (which is what it means to have an unlocked BL) while locked BL does check for signatures (which are impossible to spoof), so you're not getting past that with a ROM dump.
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It's not impossible, but just astronomically improbable. You would need the private key that Motorola uses to sign their code, that involves theft or brute forcing (which would probably take longer than the universe has been around by a large factor).

You're asking for people to try to find an exploit on a phone that is probably at EOL, it's probably not going to happen. There aren't "teams" that just sit around and try to find root exploits for every Android device out there. Yes, there are few very intelligent people that have found many of the exploits, but if they're not motivated by an $18K+ bounty on a brand new device (read: S5), then I highly doubt they'll be motivated for this device. My solution? Stick to unlockable phones from now on. That's why I moved on to the M8, even though my HD and M are both unlocked/rooted with the previous exploit.

Not sure if it works for the M but .... A root exploit has been released today for the newer motos on 4.4 & 4.4.2 (pre April 30th for Ultras).
This release was brought to us by none other then Jcase.
Please help and contribute to the bounty for all the work and talent he has shared over time here on XDA.
Root exploit is in the Moto X forum.
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Didn't work on the M.

Well there goes that idea. Worth a shot.
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Any way to adopt that root for our device? Or again we have no such exploit?

Galchonok said:
Any way to adopt that root for our device? Or again we have no such exploit?
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You can't just "adopt" root.
This is a direct quote from this thread http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-info-status-of-root-for-kitkat-build-182183/ on Droidrzr.com about why it doesn't work on the older Razrs:
Yeah I had jcase on hangouts. We did some digging and the patch that they applied in the coming 4.4.3 builds is present in the 4.4.2 build on the xt907 and xt926.
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^^^This patch is the one that's talked about on the XDA front page.

Oh Sh~t..I think I'll sell my Razr M and buy something more flexible for rooting.

Problem is, if you want a small Android with decent specs, and I don't mean just one with a smaller screen, but also with a smaller body/bezels, Motorola's pretty much the only game in town.
For $47 shipped, I picked up what I HOPE is a BL unlocked RAZR M. In my free time, I waded through hundreds of eBay auctions till I found an M with a screenshot of something other than stock ROM and found one with CM on it.

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Problem is, if you want a small Android with decent specs, and I don't mean just one with a smaller screen, but also with a smaller body/bezels, Motorola's pretty much the only game in town.
For $47 shipped, I picked up what I HOPE is a BL unlocked RAZR M. In my free time, I waded through hundreds of eBay auctions till I found an M with a screenshot of something other than stock ROM and found one with CM on it.
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Nice find! Razr Ms are still going for no less than $100 on Swappa, so hopefully you got a sweet deal. :good:
I only wish I was so lucky. :/

Strife89 said:
Nice find! Razr Ms are still going for no less than $100 on Swappa, so hopefully you got a sweet deal. :good:
I only wish I was so lucky. :/
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Normally they don't go that cheap. Part of the reason might be because it has a cracked camera lens, but I bought a new one for $8.95. Possibly people also get scared off when they see a non-stock ROM because they want something that hasn't been tampered with. It's not the first time I've seen an M with CM on it that went for lower than average.
Hopefully the phone turns out to be BL unlocked and not safe-strapped. Seller said he was 99% sure it was BL unlocked. If not, no biggie, I should at least be able to get my money back if I resell it.
I might still keep looking because the phone I bought was white and I really prefer black.

Unlocking Motorola Android boot loaders

I found this site where a guy gives a procedure on how to unlock the boot loader on any Motorola Android phone. Check out the link and lets see what you think. If this has already been posted please excuse my re-post.
http://androhippo.blogspot.com/2015...ml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&m=1

Sadly, someone correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe this is for a Motorola bought phone, not a Verizon bought phone made by Motorola.
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While this generally works for moto phones, verizon phones and a few others are not eligible for it. If you try, the moto site will tell you this.

Only hope is that someone finds and exploit similar to the G3 and is able to force TWRP onto the phone without unlocking.
My G3 still technically has a locked bootloader but they managed to push TWRP to it anyway.
Unfortunately with the Turbo being Verizon exclusive and such a small following, I doubt we will ever see the day especially with the "Turbo 2" coming out. Best bet for now, is Motofail ($20) to push custom roms.

SyCoREAPER said:
Only hope is that someone finds and exploit similar to the G3 and is able to force TWRP onto the phone without unlocking.
My G3 still technically has a locked bootloader but they managed to push TWRP to it anyway.
Unfortunately with the Turbo being Verizon exclusive and such a small following, I doubt we will ever see the day especially with the "Turbo 2" coming out. Best bet for now, is Motofail ($20) to push custom roms.
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Motofail is free and does not support the Turbo. You're thinking of moforoot.

TheSt33v said:
Motofail is free and does not support the Turbo. You're thinking of moforoot.
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Indeed what I meant. Thanks

Droid turbo 2 verizon 7.0

Anyone have root for droid turbo 2 verizon 7.0 yet. I'm looking for way because I want to get root to do a lot of stuff I need for my phone.

Use magisk su

The Droid Turbo 2 is still bootloader locked, until someone cracks that, it's not gonna be rooted.

mjones73 said:
The Droid Turbo 2 is still bootloader locked, until someone cracks that, it's not gonna be rooted.
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Is anyone working on cracking the boot loader?

TJ11911 said:
Is anyone working on cracking the boot loader?
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There's a few threads where people were trying to raise a bounty for it, not sure if it's being actively worked due to the lack of dev attention for this model.

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There's a few threads where people were trying to raise a bounty for it, not sure if it's being actively worked due to the lack of dev attention for this model.
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We need to get someone on it ASAP where is a dev someone needs to talk to him

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We need to get someone on it ASAP where is a dev someone needs to talk to him
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Apparently the Sunshine team that finally cracked the Droid Turbo has had no luck finding an exploit on this phone. It's gonna come down to giving one to someone who can crack it and pay them if they want money... If you really need root, at this point it would be easier to buy an X-Force, you can get the unlock code from Motorola. Verizon is not letting them hand out codes for the Droid Turbo 2.
There's a few root threads to read over, no one has gotten close to cracking the bootloader yet, until that happens, perm root is not achievable on this phone.

Has anyone gone for the bounty yet cuz I have been waiting for awhile now, I'm considering getting an iPhone or something

Pooper22 said:
Has anyone gone for the bounty yet cuz I have been waiting for awhile now, I'm considering getting an iPhone or something
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Good luck rooting that iPhone.
There's plenty of phones better than iPhone, and which can be rooted. You just bought the wrong phone. You should stay away from any Verizon phones in general, if rooting is important to you. Or at least make sure there's an exploit (like with Droid Turbo) before buying.

Why is there an option for "unlocking bootloader" in developer's options for Droid Turbo 2?
Never understood why Verizon will leave this option on the phone but can't unlock it?

sinkoo1979 said:
Why is there an option for "unlocking bootloader" in developer's options for Droid Turbo 2?
Never understood why Verizon will leave this option on the phone but can't unlock it?
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It's an option in all Lollipoo and newer Android OS. Verizon makes sure it doesn't actually do anything.

sinkoo1979 said:
why is there an option for "unlocking bootloader" in developer's options for droid turbo 2?
Never understood why verizon will leave this option on the phone but can't unlock it?
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I cant even enable developer options & im in 7.0
Im currently trying to acheve frp bypass on mine. Im glad you made this thread I need help with this to!

sinkoo1979 said:
Why is there an option for "unlocking bootloader" in developer's options for Droid Turbo 2?
Never understood why Verizon will leave this option on the phone but can't unlock it?
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I need to know what can I do to update to 8.0. Os without Flashing the phone or somehow altering it where I can get no use after altering. I am wanting to check out a Totally Free easily downloaded Custom Rom. HAVE A VERIZON MOTO MAXX TURBO DROID ,very nice phone. I also have a LG Nexus 5 . Which would be better to use custom rom 8 .0 os

Droid Turbo Maxx 2 with Verizon 7.0
How I get the most out this thing.

[email protected] said:
I cant even enable developer options & im in 7.0
Im currently trying to acheve frp bypass on mine. Im glad you made this thread I need help with this to!
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Are you on a Droid Maxx turbo?
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I cant even enable developer options & im in 7.0
Im currently trying to acheve frp bypass on mine. Im glad you made this thread I need help with this to!
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Sorry it was a force not maxx. II ask because I recently helped my buddy get past his. if you are following you tube videos and you are stuck at copying and sharing a text to Google maps so you can get to the internet I would suggest that you copy and share a picture instead out of your file manager. I was able to get net and then ask Google for chrome and viola

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Are you on a Droid Maxx turbo?
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Sorry it was a force not maxx. II ask because I recently helped my buddy get past his. if you are following you tube videos and you are stuck at copying and sharing a text to Google maps so you can get to the internet I would suggest that you copy and share a picture instead out of your file manager. I was able to get net and then ask Google for chrome and viola
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You're quoting a pretty Old Post I achieved the bypass I got rid of the phone a long time ago!

[email protected] said:
You're quoting a pretty Old Post I achieved the bypass I got rid of the phone a long time ago!
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I realized it afterward and was hoping you didn't get on here often enough to notice. Sorry brother