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NOTE TO ALL. DO not help theives.

These "pattern lockout please help" threads are the worst attempt at recovering stolen phones. Its obvious thw thieves create multiple accounts on xda, Then reply with things like "this is happening to me too" It supposed to build their credibility by creating small layers of trust. Its to make you think "Oh, well if multiple people are having an issue, maybe this is just another failure in the long list of problems."
I wouldnt be suprised if they start pm'ing people who attempt to help.
The bottom line is, this is a weak attempt to socially engineer you to break the law by helping them break the law. We all know that if you forget your pattern its easy enough to recover from it. My son locks my phone once a week from incorrect pattern entry. With my G1 it was married to one google account so i was forced to recover via gmail. Therefore if they are the true owners they will have no problem recovering.
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Word.
Well said.

Need to sticky this.
I'd pay for an app that locks down the recovery and download mode with a password - can't remember your pass - tough ****.

Hey people, I forgot my....
oh... I guess I have to ask androidforums...

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HG! said:
Hey people, I forgot my....
oh... I guess I have to ask androidforums...
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Definitely agree though!!!

Bump. Sticky this.

I agree with the OP, theres alot of phones on ebay and craigslist of the locked android phones. I sent a message to an ebay seller and his response was the phone was as is, but fully working. Would not go into detail when I asked him was it user error or stolen. My initial Vibrant I bought was stolen and I had no security installed. That mistake wont happen again but Please dont help the theives.

what if the person is being honest, and they are really pattern locked out, and they don't know anything about android? LOL that would suck, but I agree, lets not help thieves.

Yeah pretty much a big f you. I am a legit owner who was locked out the day I got my phone. Gmail did not unlock it so I called tmo. They walked me through a master unlock which made things worse, as now all my gmail info was deleted. Thank goodness there were people willing to help and I was able to get my phone back up and running. Its people like you who really make it hard for someone to get the help they need here on xda.
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SamsungVibrant said:
what if the person is being honest, and they are really pattern locked out, and they don't know anything about android? LOL that would suck, but I agree, lets not help thieves.
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it happens, but tough ****, we can't determine the real idiots from the thieves so it's best to help no one get past the unlock screen.
(although on stock vibrant there is a known issue that the pattern unlock does not go away even if you do the right thing)

While I do agree we shouldn't help thieves, we shouldn't make such a blanket statement. Just because you get locked out of your phone doesn't mean you stole it. I've had customers whose friends tried to unlock their phone and locked them out.
But I can see it now all the unhelpful vultures on here as soon as someone asks about being locked out of their phone. "ZOMG THIEVE CALL THE POLICE, TELL THE MODS, TRACK THEIR IP, THEIR WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!"

speoples20 said:
While I do agree we shouldn't help thieves, we shouldn't make such a blanket statement. Just because you get locked out of your phone doesn't mean you stole it. I've had customers whose friends tried to unlock their phone and locked them out.
But I can see it now all the unhelpful vultures on here as soon as someone asks about being locked out of their phone. "ZOMG THIEVE CALL THE POLICE, TELL THE MODS, TRACK THEIR IP, THEIR WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!"
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i am not saying that if a customer brings their phone into my store i am not going to help then(i would get reprimanded for that) but online i have no way of knowing if they are telling the truth or not. when people bring their phone into the store you can usually tell if they are telling the truth or not, or you have a hundred tools at your disposal as a rep that will tell you whether or not they bought the phone and/or it is theirs

I am not suggesting there are not circumstances where everything goes wrong and you are unable to sign in using your gmail account to unlock. Wait... yes i am. If you are in this situation it is 100% your fault.
Take ownership of your phone and whats on it.
If it were so easy to circumvent 2 layers of secuirty on a locked android device... then why even have it on there.
Most if not all people looking to get around the pattern unlock are in possesion of a phone they dont own.
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or they are completely retarded like 90% of my customers, there are thousands of people out there that have an android device and have no clue what their gmail password is because the sales rep set all that up for them and made sure that when they walked out the door they would have no problems. at least once a week i get customers that come in and tell me that they locked themselves out of their phone and i know they did because A) i sold it to them and set it up B) a co-worker sold it to them and i set it up C) they are old. most people don't bother to remember passwords just like they don't remember phone numbers, because technology has the ability to remember stuff for us then why the hell should we have to use our brain at all?
i am not saying that we should walk people through how to get past it, i am just stating that some people really are that stupid and can't remember unlock patterns or passwords, or phone numbers or whatever else. frankly i think even i have locked myself out of my old G1 because i changed my pattern and then forgot what is was(i changed mine once a week) just because i changed the pattern doesn't mean i stole it, it means i'm an idiot
i have also seen phones that will not let you use the gmail credentials even though you can use those same credentials to log in via computer. just because someone is stupid does not make them a thief, although being a thief makes them stupid

NoDataFound said:
I am not suggesting there are not circumstances where everything goes wrong and you are unable to sign in using your gmail account to unlock. Wait... yes i am. If you are in this situation it is 100% your fault.
Take ownership of your phone and whats on it.
If it were so easy to circumvent 2 layers of secuirty on a locked android device... then why even have it on there.
Most if not all people looking to get around the pattern unlock are in possesion of a phone they dont own.
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Just because you have not run into a situation in which all systems failed does not mean it doesn't happen. Don't be do short sighted and pig headed that you under mind the purpose of help forums. I consider myself a semi intelligent person but somehow found myself completely locked out of my first vibrant. With the help of a few good people I was back up and running the next day. And this was on my day old stock vibrant. And yes the gmail auth failed even with the correct login info.
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Apexsilverevo said:
Just because you have not run into a situation in which all systems failed does not mean it doesn't happen. Don't be do short sighted and pig headed that you under mind the purpose of help forums. I consider myself a semi intelligent person but somehow found myself completely locked out of my first vibrant. With the help of a few good people I was back up and running the next day. And this was on my day old stock vibrant. And yes the gmail auth failed even with the correct login info.
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As I pointed out already(and I'm agreeing with you) this is a known issue, and t-mo has said many times that they plan on a fix but I doubt it will be soon
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tubaking182 said:
or they are completely retarded like 90% of my customers, there are thousands of people out there that have an android device and have no clue what their gmail password is because the sales rep set all that up for them and made sure that when they walked out the door they would have no problems. at least once a week i get customers that come in and tell me that they locked themselves out of their phone and i know they did because A) i sold it to them and set it up B) a co-worker sold it to them and i set it up C) they are old. most people don't bother to remember passwords just like they don't remember phone numbers, because technology has the ability to remember stuff for us then why the hell should we have to use our brain at all?
i am not saying that we should walk people through how to get past it, i am just stating that some people really are that stupid and can't remember unlock patterns or passwords, or phone numbers or whatever else. frankly i think even i have locked myself out of my old G1 because i changed my pattern and then forgot what is was(i changed mine once a week) just because i changed the pattern doesn't mean i stole it, it means i'm an idiot
i have also seen phones that will not let you use the gmail credentials even though you can use those same credentials to log in via computer. just because someone is stupid does not make them a thief, although being a thief makes them stupid
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Overall you are correct. I deal with people all the time that dont know tech at all. The only thing I see wrong with your logic is that those type of people would not be on this forum. If the people bought the phone through a legit source they can go back to that store and get it unlocked or replaced.

tubaking182 said:
As I pointed out already(and I'm agreeing with you) this is a known issue, and t-mo has said many times that they plan on a fix but I doubt it will be soon
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Got to love the xda app lol, I meant to quote the post above. But appreciate your response
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Listen, there is a flaw with the fail safe of the patern lock. Its supposed to verify your google account info. It completely failed for me. First I was told I had to do it using 3G and not wi-fi. But neither worked. T mo actually replaced my phone because I got licked out
locked. They saw the error when I showed them I could log on with a computer but not with the phone which I had a receipt for.
Try it for yourself. Enter the wrong code until it asks for google verification.
Before you get your panties in a wad, why not see if there's a bug here after all.
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[Q] HTC desire hd lost&found

hello guys, I just found a HTC desire hd in the bar where I work, its been 2 weeks since the guy lost it, what should I do, I know that this phone might be traced by internet or gps, or maybe I dont know, maybe I'm wrong...now I just want to keep it. any danger?
thanks

It probably can be if he's set it up right, but you can use that to help return it to him (assuming that's what you're intending). As far as I know it does use GPS.

li70 said:
hello guys, I just found a HTC desire hd in the bar where I work, its been 2 weeks since the guy lost it, what should I do, I know that this phone might be traced by internet or gps, or maybe I dont know, maybe I'm wrong...I just want to keep it. any danger?
thanks
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The right thing to do is find out who's phone it is and return it , its pretty easy with the data kept on phones "now a days".. The HTC online service can used to lock the phone , wipe data , track phone etc. But this feature is useless if the phone is off or the sense account is deleted or changed on the phone.
Correct me if I'm wrong !
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Previous post is completely correct. I'd just return it save you the trouble. I mean put yourself in their shoes, how would you feel if you lost you phone?
Do the right thing. Return it.

Hand it in to your local police station, make sure they log it and give you a reference number. Then after a set period of time, possibly 4 weeks, if the owner has not claimed it you can legally claim it.
However, the owner has probably reported it as lost and had it network barred. Not sure if you can then get it removed, but that is the right thing to do.

you'r right dude thanks

zidane2k3 said:
Previous post is completely correct. I'd just return it save you the trouble. I mean put yourself in their shoes, how would you feel if you lost you phone?
Do the right thing. Return it.
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yeah man I got your point ty

I found some guys phone once, read his msgs and txt a few people to let them know I had found it. He rang me up on it and asked me to meet him at a certain place and time, I told him I was working at that time so would have to meet him an hour or so later, he went mad at me over the phone saying I should meet him when he said! I just laughed at him and told him Id be there later. After meeting up with the guy he showed no appreciation for what I had done to get his phone back to him, some people huh?

Wow miclair. That is just sad. You have much more class than I do. Still showing up and giving them the phone after they get.mad when you were trying to.do the right thing. I commend you for that.
Its maddening when you see the ugly side of humanity. Luckily along my way. I have met some remarkable people to still keep some faith alive in the goodness of people
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When I lost my htc hd 2 year ago, I was so anxious and hopeful the person will return it. Given the situation I lost the phone, at following situation
1 am,
Empty land car park,
Poor light,
Less than 10 minutes from suspect lost spot
I was rushing my son for 24 hr clinic.

maybe hes gonna use Phone Finder app.

Nexus 6P google reactivation lock!

@all
I recently bought a slightly used huawei 6P phone online and after receiving it did a hard reset to wipe out all old data but!
ITS google account locked phone! and the customer who sold me too hardly remmembers the id or the password he used! and now its just lying with me since a week,
i tried looking and trying a lot of solutions from youtube, but none worked and now im afraid to try more as i dont want to spoil the phone! so i thought why not ask here if anybody faced any similar problems ?
is there any way to bypass this on the 6p?
pls share
WBR
ReyTech.

ReyTech said:
@all
I recently bought a slightly used huawei 6P phone online and after receiving it did a hard reset to wipe out all old data but!
ITS google account locked phone! and the customer who sold me too hardly remmembers the id or the password he used! and now its just lying with me since a week,
i tried looking and trying a lot of solutions from youtube, but none worked and now im afraid to try more as i dont want to spoil the phone! so i thought why not ask here if anybody faced any similar problems ?
is there any way to bypass this on the 6p?
pls share
WBR
ReyTech.
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Is OEM Unlocking enabled?
Try flashing TWRP in bootloader mode, using fastboot. It will confirm if OEM locking was enabled or not. If it is enabled

He doesnt remember his login info because he probably stole it.
Sorry, this is my standard response 100% of the time when I hear "I dont remember my google login"... Um, you bought a nexus, a GOOGLE PHONE, laoded w google apps and such... and you dont remember your login?
I feel bad for ya, that sucks. But odds are he doesnt know for a reason

Soulfly3 said:
He doesnt remember his login info because he probably stole it.
Sorry, this is my standard response 100% of the time when I hear "I dont remember my google login"... Um, you bought a nexus, a GOOGLE PHONE, laoded w google apps and such... and you dont remember your login?
I feel bad for ya, that sucks. But odds are he doesnt know for a reason
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Please don't judge so quickly. This will discourage the user, so let him convey his side of the story. He also mentioned that the person he bought it from, doesn't remember the details.
We are here to support the users. I hope you understand.

DJBhardwaj said:
Please don't judge so quickly. This will discourage the user, so let him convey his side of the story. He also mentioned that the person he bought it from, doesn't remember the details.
We are here to support the users. I hope you understand.
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No, I am supporting him. I hope he gets the issue fixed. But the old "I forgot my login" story, to me, is a lie 9 times out of 10.
I'm not knocking the user/OP here, Im knocking the person he bought it from.

Soulfly3 said:
No, I am supporting him. I hope he gets the issue fixed. But the old "I forgot my login" story, to me, is a lie 9 times out of 10.
I'm not knocking the user/OP here, Im knocking the person he bought it from.
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I agree with you on the "lie 9 times out of 10" point.

OP, return it to the seller for a full refund and/or log the sale with the appropriate authorities.
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kboya said:
OP, return it to the seller for a full refund and/or log the sale with the appropriate authorities.
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+1 on that eBay will back you up on this, as will PayPal, and also your credit card company. Once seller learns your intention to return/report he'll either get his s**t together and remember the user name and password for you or take the phone back.

Is there truly a way to get past the FRP security?

For starters, I've got the Tmobile version (not sure if that makes a difference, but I figured I should say it)...
I'm sure I tried everything I could except the method that involves the OTG cable. Trying to root it or apply twrp recovery only fails each and every time through odin.
I tried Smartswitch. I tried Kies... Kies actually took a really long time and I thought it was going to work, but it didn't.
I even tried to do some wifi/server things with another phone by using thethering (is what I believe it was)...still no luck.
The phone belonged to a sister of mine, but she couldn't remember the password she used to log in. She passed the phone on to my dad. He was never able to get in and now I've got it.
I thought rooting it would fix the problem, but that's because I knew about the chokehold security on it... the FRP business.
Can someone please help me? My sister says she's working on it (which probably means she isn't or it's on the back burner). I would really like to use the camera on the S5.
Is there another direction I can go in to get into this phone? It's driving me a little nuts at this point.

good luck getting around it without paying an unlocking company. if its actually your sisters phone, you might want to poke the bear, otherwise youre gonna be spending $?? to get it unlocked. I say ?? after the $ because of the variability of the price from site to site. I know that idoneapps.com does it for $35, and i trust their work completely, but ive also seen people talking about other sites advertising that theyll do it for less from companies out of zimbabwe. take the location of the company for what its worth. Anyways, poke the bear aka, your sister (no insult intended, just a euphemism)

Thanks -- offense taken. I hope she's able to recover the password. I was almost certain I'd get a reply like this. It's annoying, but here I go-a-pokin. Thanks.

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Thanks -- offense taken. I hope she's able to recover the password. I was almost certain I'd get a reply like this. It's annoying, but here I go-a-pokin. Thanks.
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yeah, its the pits, but either spend some money for a third party workaround, or get your sister in contact with samsung

youdoofus said:
good luck getting around it without paying an unlocking company. if its actually your sisters phone, you might want to poke the bear, otherwise youre gonna be spending $?? to get it unlocked. I say ?? after the $ because of the variability of the price from site to site. I know that idoneapps.com does it for $35, and i trust their work completely, but ive also seen people talking about other sites advertising that theyll do it for less from companies out of zimbabwe. take the location of the company for what its worth. Anyways, poke the bear aka, your sister (no insult intended, just a euphemism)
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yeah, its the pits, but either spend some money for a third party workaround, or get your sister in contact with samsung
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Come to find out that my sister had dropped the phone and couldn't turn it back on. She sent it to our dad... and he wiped the phone without thinking to turn off the security. He didn't know though... he came from an S4 and I don't think they had it on there. I've got a note 3 (my first real smartphone) so I had no clue this would happen.
He keeps telling me it's google and not Samsung. Apparently a year or so ago when he asked her for the password, she said she emailed google and they were going to send her the password in two weeks... I asked why two weeks and he couldn't give me an answer.
This truly is the pits. I'm literally still waiting for a call from either of them at this point.

OnePlus 6T FRP Unlock Question

I have a OnePlus 6T that is FRP locked and was wondering if someone can help me unlock it? I have tried the talkback way but I only have wifi on the phone so the maps don't load for me to get to google chrome.
I also have tried flashing but my computer doesn't seem to want to install the qualcomm driver. When I plug in the phone it doesn't install the driver either, I am running Windows 10 64 bit on a Microsoft Surface Pro.
If anyone can help me it would be appreciated. Also, I am located in San Diego and if someone wants to charge me to do it for me I am willing to go that route.

Not trying to come off as rude, but people on these forums are probably not likely to help you in any way. If your device if FRP Locked, you must have the account information that corresponds to the phone. As this question is usually asked with stolen phones because you do not know the account info, unlocking FRP is illegal. Ask the phone's previous owner for their info, or if purchased online ask for a return/refund.

parker.stephens said:
Not trying to come off as rude, but people on these forums are probably not likely to help you in any way. If your device if FRP Locked, you must have the account information that corresponds to the phone. As this question is usually asked with stolen phones because you do not know the account info, unlocking FRP is illegal. Ask the phone's previous owner for their info, or if purchased online ask for a return/refund.
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I understand your point but there are many threads discussing FRP unlocking for other devices on this forum.

Yeah, no one is going to help you here. Sorry dude. If the phone is legit then you should be able to ask whoever's account is locked.
Otherwise, a new account on XDA asking for help FRP unlocking a phone.. Prolly wont get what you are looking for.

Actually, someone PM'd a solution and I unlocked the phone. Instead of getting to Google chrome through maps I accessed it through YouTube. Then installed the FRP bypass apk.

Iraq619 said:
Actually, someone PM'd a solution and I unlocked the phone. Instead of getting to Google chrome through maps I accessed it through YouTube. Then installed the FRP bypass apk.
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Good to know you were able to unlock your stolen phone.
FRP bypass is not legitimate and is always suspect.
Either you stole a phone or bought a stolen phone.
Might want to keep the bragging to a minimum.

tech_head said:
Good to know you were able to unlock your stolen phone.
FRP bypass is not legitimate and is always suspect.
Either you stole a phone or bought a stolen phone.
Might want to keep the bragging to a minimum.
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I didn't steal anything. I'm a Uber driver and someone left there phone in the car. I found it underneath the car seat and I didn't get anyone asking about it. I don't go around stealing phones. That's how people get hurt.

Iraq619 said:
I didn't steal anything. I'm a Uber driver and someone left there phone in the car. I found it underneath the car seat and I didn't get anyone asking about it. I don't go around stealing phones. That's how people get hurt.
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Sorry, but it is a stolen phone and unfortunately someone here helped you steal a phone.
You may not have taken it from the hand of someone, but you didn't buy it and you didn't turn it into the police.
Finders does not equal keepers.

tech_head said:
Sorry, but it is a stolen phone and unfortunately someone here helped you steal a phone.
You may not have taken it from the hand of someone, but you didn't buy it and you didn't turn it into the police.
Finders does not equal keepers.
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Turn it in to the police? For them to do what? How old are you? Seems like you are more intent on being right then doing the right thing IMO

Iraq619 said:
Turn it in to the police? For them to do what? How old are you? Seems like you are more intent on being right then doing the right thing IMO
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It was an example.
But you can claim indignation if you like but I'm not the one with the phone that doesn't belong to me.
I do know that if you leave the phone plugged in the person is more likely than not to call and locate.
If you pop the SIM and put it in another phone you can get the number and leave the owner a VM.
So with a moderate amount of effort you can usually find the owner.
Been there, done that.
Found, stolen. Whatever. It's not yours.
Now I'm done.

tech_head said:
It was an example.
But you can claim indignation if you like but I'm not the one with the phone that doesn't belong to me.
I do know that if you leave the phone plugged in the person is more likely than not to call and locate.
If you pop the SIM and put it in another phone you can get the number and leave the owner a VM.
So with a moderate amount of effort you can usually find the owner.
Been there, done that.
Found, stolen. Whatever. It's not yours.
Now I'm done.
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I found it underneath the car seat with the battery dead. I charged it and turned it on and didn't receive any calls for 2 weeks. I'm not playing babysitter. If you don't claim your phone through Uber or call me, which you can easily do, then that goes in the lost and found for 2 weeks until I sell it.
Just because you want to sit on your high horse in a hypothetical situation doesn't mean anything. If you were in the possession of the phone you would do the same or worse. At least I waited for someone to claim it. I'm not responsible for someone's absent mindedness.