My SO and I just got 2 6P's, but my SO is getting much, much better battery life than me.
We're both running stock 6.0.1. She gets about 4.5-5 hrs Screen-On-Time (SOT), whereas I'm getting around 2.5 hrs SOT. Similarly, when plugged in, her phone enters the "charging rapidly" mode and charges from 10% to 100% in about an hour, whereas mine enters the "charging rapidly" mode and charges from 10% to 100% in about 2 hours! On her phone, the battery performance listing shows "Screen" as the top percentage. On my phone, the battery performance listing shows "Android System" as the top percentage, usually between 10-20% with screen always in the single digits.
I've looked at all the settings of both devices and everything is the same (data, networks, location services, etc.). The only difference between the phones is the apps we use. Additionally, she uses the stock Google launcher, whereas I'm using Nova Launcher.
Any ideas what can be causing this huge disparity?
Thanks in advance.
It sounds like an app is causing a high load on "Android System". Try checking Network Usage and look for an app that uses a lot of data.
I would also try checking out each app in the market to see if others users have complained about battery life.
Happy hunting
jumi1174 said:
The only difference between the phones is the apps we use.
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A single app can have a massive impact on battery life.
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jumi1174 said:
Similarly, when plugged in, her phone enters the "charging rapidly" mode and charges from 10% to 100% in about an hour, whereas mine enters the "charging rapidly" mode and charges from 10% to 100% in about 2 hours!
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Are you using the exact same charger and cable to observe these results? To eliminate another variable, reboot, wait for boot completion, then charge.
The charging time may also be related to the fact that your phone is not sleeping and hers is. On that, you're back to tracking down an offending app.
jumi1174 said:
My SO and I just got 2 6P's, but my SO is getting much, much better battery life than me.
We're both running stock 6.0.1. She gets about 4.5-5 hrs Screen-On-Time (SOT), whereas I'm getting around 2.5 hrs SOT. Similarly, when plugged in, her phone enters the "charging rapidly" mode and charges from 10% to 100% in about an hour, whereas mine enters the "charging rapidly" mode and charges from 10% to 100% in about 2 hours! On her phone, the battery performance listing shows "Screen" as the top percentage. On my phone, the battery performance listing shows "Android System" as the top percentage, usually between 10-20% with screen always in the single digits.
I've looked at all the settings of both devices and everything is the same (data, networks, location services, etc.). The only difference between the phones is the apps we use. Additionally, she uses the stock Google launcher, whereas I'm using Nova Launcher.
Any ideas what can be causing this huge disparity?
Thanks in advance.
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I would just start fresh. Flash factory image and set up device as new when entering Google account. 2.5 sot is horrendous. You may as well just bought a Samsung phone lol.
snovvman said:
Are you using the exact same charger and cable to observe these results? To eliminate another variable, reboot, wait for boot completion, then charge.
The charging time may also be related to the fact that your phone is not sleeping and hers is. On that, you're back to tracking down an offending app.
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I used the same charger, cable, and outlet when testing the charging speeds between the devices.
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However, after a little more investigation, I've narrowed the issue down to something with Nova Launcher. Since the only major difference in the apps we were running was the launcher being used (her on stock Google launcher, me on Nova), I disabled Nova+TeslaUnread and switched to Google launcher. Now I'm getting great battery life! I haven't tested charging yet, but that'll be later. I'm already at 3hrs SOT and still have 55% battery left.
So something with Nova+TeslaUnread is causing the battery issue. Any ideas?
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I used the same charger, cable, and outlet when testing the charging speeds between the devices.
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However, after a little more investigation, I've narrowed the issue down to something with Nova Launcher. Since the only major difference in the apps we were running was the launcher being used (her on stock Google launcher, me on Nova), I disabled Nova+TeslaUnread and switched to Google launcher. Now I'm getting great battery life! I haven't tested charging yet, but that'll be later. I'm already at 3hrs SOT and still have 55% battery left.
So something with Nova+TeslaUnread is causing the battery issue. Any ideas?
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I use both, and both on the 6p and 6, and have no such battery issues.
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So something with Nova+TeslaUnread is causing the battery issue. Any ideas?
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Nova should work just fine, but TeslaUnread has had some bad reviews lately, with some people complaining about battery drain, so maybe try just uninstalling that one.
What are the memory capacities of the two phones (e.g., 32GB, 64GB, 128GB)?
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So something with Nova+TeslaUnread is causing the battery issue. Any ideas?
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That's interesting. I use Nova launcher and Tesla Unread and usually get about 5 hours screen on time....but between the custom kernel and rom maybe I'm making up the loss somewhere else.
At least you know now there's nothing wrong with your phones battery
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I can't post in the Development area yet, so I'm posting it here.
2nd day using CyanogenMod 7, and here's my feedback:
- Very stable
- It seems to have solved my Nexus One touchscreen issue. I've tried CM6 and Enomther before, and this was never resolved before.
- The Wifi is stable with no drop (is it because of the new radio in CM7 ??)
- Super duper battery life!! Even way better than Enomther. By noon, usually I'm at 81-85% with very light activities (browsing, reading emails, etc) and nothing running on the background except Corporate Email and a couple GMail accounts sync. Today it's still 89% and this is fabulous. Note that I've set the Wifi to "Never Sleep". The battery life is SIMPLY AMAZING!
- I can't notice speed differences with ENomther.
- I couldn't care less for the animation or eye candies, but the touchscreen keyboard fix, wifi stability, and long battery life are very important. FYI I wiped everything (data, Dalvik Cache, battery stats, rotation, etc)
THANK YOU, CYANOGEN!
you should judge your battery on a whole days worth of use. The ~5% difference in a couple hours could easily be made by one app or game being run. I'm getting ~36 hours out of my MIUI setup. Though I block and limit many background syncs.
No doubt CM7 is great, huge step from what many android phones are stuck with out there. ps, CM7 doesn't include a radio.
foreverwinter said:
I can't post in the Development area yet, so I'm posting it here.
2nd day using CyanogenMod 7, and here's my feedback:
- Very stable
- It seems to have solved my Nexus One touchscreen issue. I've tried CM6 and Enomther before, and this was never resolved before.
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What touchscreen issue?
And it still has the mic-not-working in a call problem, so it's useless if I can't use my phone as a phone.
My N1 has a touchscreen issue since day 1 ... seems to have been fixed in this release.
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=nexus+one+touchscreen+problem
Mic is definitely working here. Talked on the phone twice yesterday.
Battery life is definitely awesomeeeeeeee. I have 4 accounts in my N1 (2 corporates, 2 GMail).
Kimd41 said:
What touchscreen issue?
And it still has the mic-not-working in a call problem, so it's useless if I can't use my phone as a phone.
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My gps loses its signal right after it gets a lock. I'm using CoPilot. Anybody having gps issues?
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Yeah same experience here. What current draw are you seeubf during idle use? I'm seeing 4-5 mA which is great.
I don't think daily usage is a good way to determine battery life.
Best way is to see how much % drops overnight.
CM6 I was seeing 3-7% overnight, CM7RC4 I am seeing 7-20%.
Haven't had CM7 final long enought to check but first night I lost around 10%.
This is with all data off, 2G only and no services running apart from the basics.
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This is with all data off, 2G only and no services running apart from the basics.
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Yeah, that's totally the best way to determine usable battery life.
/sarcasm
LOL .. 2G and no services running?
I have GPS, Wifi, 3G all ON. 4 sync accounts (2 MS Exchange, 2 GMail). I have no Facebook sync, however. 3rd day ... still really amazed with the battery life. FWIW, I set the brightness to low (I don't need it that bright anyway) as usual. Same way I usually set it with my 2.2 Enomther ROM and CM6 and stock ROM. Battery life on CM7 is simply AMAAAAAAAAZZZZINGGG or maybe I'm just lucky
GPS locks in seconds, but I haven't done an extensive test with it yet. I'm going to use it (I have both CoPilot and Sygic Aura).
The only weird thing is that ADW Launcher closed and I had to reboot the phone once yesterday to bring it back on ???
Other than that, I'm super duper happy with CM7, especially the battery life
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This is with all data off, 2G only and no services running apart from the basics.
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Kimd41 said:
And it still has the mic-not-working in a call problem, so it's useless if I can't use my phone as a phone.
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Search for and install "dewonkificator." It has fixed all of my call related problems, along with several others.
I also think that Gingerbread should be given much of credit for the Wifi fixes.
Im finding my battery getting eaten up noticeably faster from CM6 but its worth it for all the fixes/features.
best battery life ever, I pick my phone up ... IT'S COLD!
I've been using Kang-o-Rama 1.1, which is based on CM 6. I tried several different kernels and settled on the wildmonk kernel (2.6.35.10 though I'm sure there are newer versions now), because it gave me a similar excellent battery life as others have described here. I had been using various ROMs before that (those that are close to stock, with a few nice features added) and always had pretty bad battery life.
CM 7 therefore isn't necessary if you want stability (e.g. a phone that always works as a phone, no random crashes etc.) and excellent battery life. I'm cautious about CM 7 (and the soon-to-be-released Kang-o-Rama based on CM7) until the "wonkiness" issue is fully addressed - I don't consider having to install the dewonkifier program fully addressing the issue!
I like to have the latest and greatest, but having a potentially unstable phone is really annoying! Just have to be patient. Regardless, Cyanogen and everyone working on custom ROMs must be applauded for their efforts, don't know what I'd do without them
I have to say I'm a bit miffed about not being able to post in the development forum, which is the main reason I read xda...
Has anyone noticed a difference in battery performance between the first discharge and subsequent discharge cycles on the later cm7 builds? I've noticed that my phone will drains faster the over longer uptimes. The first discharge cycle after a boot discharges at an average rate of 3% to 5% per hour, averaged over a full day. Use over a full day for me is fairly light with some texting, one or two brief calls, and maybe some web and facebook. The battery is usually over 60% in after 8 or 10 hours on battery on that first discharge. After a full recharge, the drain rate on the next discharge seems higher. I've observed that similar use through a second discharge cycle is typically 5% per hour or more. I sometimes struggle to get more than 10 hours use out of the phone on that second charge.
I have noticed the Status Bar app seems to account for an abnormally large amount of battery use. Where's My Droid Power app reports the Status Bar consistently as the top power consumer on the device. Status Bar's power consumption in that first discharge cycle is usually reported around 10%, but jumps to 30% on subsequent discharge cycles. Other known power hogs consistently consume 5% to 6% according to the app. I don't know how the power monitoring app derives its data, but nothing shows up as strange in the Spare Parts battery history. I'm beginning to wonder whether the "where's my droid power" app's statistics gathering might be being baised somehow. It leads me to question my data.
So, does anyone have similar observations on frst discharge versus second discharge rates? Does anyone know what the Status Bar app actually does, and whether it might actually be contributing to higer battery drain? Finally, is there a better power monitoring app i should be looking at to track down rogue apps?
Solidgrue said:
Has anyone noticed a difference in battery performance between the first discharge and subsequent discharge cycles on the later cm7 builds? I've noticed that my phone will drains faster the over longer uptimes. The first discharge cycle after a boot discharges at an average rate of 3% to 5% per hour, averaged over a full day. Use over a full day for me is fairly light with some texting, one or two brief calls, and maybe some web and facebook. The battery is usually over 60% in after 8 or 10 hours on battery on that first discharge. After a full recharge, the drain rate on the next discharge seems higher. I've observed that similar use through a second discharge cycle is typically 5% per hour or more. I sometimes struggle to get more than 10 hours use out of the phone on that second charge.
I have noticed the Status Bar app seems to account for an abnormally large amount of battery use. Where's My Droid Power app reports the Status Bar consistently as the top power consumer on the device. Status Bar's power consumption in that first discharge cycle is usually reported around 10%, but jumps to 30% on subsequent discharge cycles. Other known power hogs consistently consume 5% to 6% according to the app. I don't know how the power monitoring app derives its data, but nothing shows up as strange in the Spare Parts battery history. I'm beginning to wonder whether the "where's my droid power" app's statistics gathering might be being baised somehow. It leads me to question my data.
So, does anyone have similar observations on frst discharge versus second discharge rates? Does anyone know what the Status Bar app actually does, and whether it might actually be contributing to higer battery drain? Finally, is there a better power monitoring app i should be looking at to track down rogue apps?
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There is a bug in the status bar process. If you have battery percent enabled in the status bar, when you plug in the charger, the status bar process uses 10-30% CPU for the next hour during charging. If you disable batt percent and charge this does not happen.
I looked at the source code and was gonna try a fix soon.
On previous cyan 6, charging temp disabled the percent. Also this slows things down and home screen scrolling gets super choppy.
RogerPodacter said:
There is a bug in the status bar process. If you have battery percent enabled in the status bar, when you plug in the charger, the status bar process uses 10-30% CPU for the next hour during charging. If you disable batt percent and charge this does not happen.
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I do have battery percentage enabled, so that could explain that. Thanks for the feedback! I could convince myself I tried disabling battery percentage before, but who pays attention to the little things when you're having so much fun?
Oh, and an update on the battery discharge thing. I left my Wifi on full time after my last full charge, and i'm about to roll over 2 days runtime with about 10% left. I haven't seen performance like that since i enabled a Corporate Email account.
Yeah I'm getting superb standby battery life on cyan #39 right now. Idle current draw overnight for 8 hours, with wifi on, is seeing 7 mA current drain steadily.
CyanogenMod 7 not working!
I just upgraded to the new CyanogenMod 7 on my Nexus 1 and unfortunately it is not loading. It gets to the CyanogenMod screen, with the Android guy on the stake board and the arrow going around him, but it just wont go passed that screen. It has never gone passed this screen.
What i have tried:
Taking out the battery and restarting it
letting it run for 30 minutes
If anyone one can help me I would greatly appreciate it
Regards,
What kernel are you guys using on CM7 for such awesome battery life? I've tried stock for one week, then redstar with minimal improvement.
I don't know if it's my imagination, but since the 2.4.6 update, my battery life has dropped a bit. By the time I get into my office from my morning commute, I'm anywhere in the 65-70% battery life after unplugging from a full charge. I haven't done anything new. I always unplug around 8:30 am when I head out, I do some light chatting with gf, browse some sites, check facebook (usually very briefly), and maybe sometimes do a little reading on my device. By the time I get into the office around 9:30 or 10 AM, I'm usually around the 80-85% area with battery.
Lately, doing the same thing, I'm seeing the aforementioned 65-70%.
Is anyone else experiencing decreased battery life since 2.3.6?
I'm on a Tmobile Nexus S, running stock 2.3.6 (no custom ROMs).
2.4.6 ? .... maybe 2.3.6 ... and yes, I also noticed a slight increase in power consuption after the upgrade. The stand-by is still great .. about 0.8 - 1% per hour.
Sorry, yes I meant 2.3.6.
Thanks for replying Ro_explorer. Is your increased power consumption significant? Seeing 65-70% when I'm used to seeing 80-85% as I get into my office, I find, is a large change. To be frank, the battery life of the Nexus S in general isn't so fantastic to begin with... this hit makes it worse.
Anyone else?
I used to get home with about 40-50% after a whole "normal day" (unplugged at 8AM, and getting back home at ~8PM) .. now (with the same average usage) I'm getting home with ~30-40% ... that why I said "slight increase" ...
Not your imagination, I too have noticed this. I hope the next update, will fix this - as I used to get pretty good battery life (even with over 250 apps).
When I recently updated to the 2.3.6, it caused a bug of continuous reboot (every 1-3 minutes), so I had to do a hard reset - now it works fine, but I only have added back about 15 apps - and the battery life sux!
Downgrade OS' it will be ok.
This is so weird. Why is the battery life worse?
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Sorry, yes I meant 2.3.6.
Thanks for replying Ro_explorer. Is your increased power consumption significant? Seeing 65-70% when I'm used to seeing 80-85% as I get into my office, I find, is a large change. To be frank, the battery life of the Nexus S in general isn't so fantastic to begin with... this hit makes it worse.
Anyone else?
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You want bad battery life? Try an Evo 4g with a Sense rom. I averaged about 6hrs using a 1500mAh battery, in stock form.
The nexus is pretty light on power consumption, if you ask me. I average 15hrs on the stock 2.3.7 rom/kernel combo, with stock battery.
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I'm on 2.3.6 and need to charge every two days. I text a lot and do light gaming. I'm typing this from my phone. Maybe you could drain the battery and wipe battery stats? I'm not even at 50% yet and I charged yesterday.
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I also noticed that the battery last less time
I've been waiting to see if anybody else reporting this issue
i noticed a decent increase in battery life going to 2.3.7 and thought that previously the battery life had been fairly poor :\
I am non rooted, and get around 20 hrs on light to moderate use. Again. Stock, non rooted.
How do I recalibrate my battery? I wonder if it could be that...
There are many was to recalibrate. Some involve wiping batt stats, some plugging and unplugging phone several times after charge.
I have always found that using the battery almost all the way down, but not past 5%, and then full recharge conditions it very well.
Oh I've been here to solve the problem
"Why last 2 weeks my Nexus s drain battery so fast ? or I have to calibrate it"
Thank for your notice about update OS to 2.3.6.
I think that's a root cause for me too.
1. Could I rollback to 2.3.4 ,how?
2. Does battery calibration is useful for this case , how?( someone suggest to calibrate when flashing new rom )
Thank you very much..
i want to know who have some methods to do with this stuff
borrowedchief said:
There are many was to recalibrate. Some involve wiping batt stats, some plugging and unplugging phone several times after charge.
I have always found that using the battery almost all the way down, but not past 5%, and then full recharge conditions it very well.
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Whenever switching roms, kernels, or batteries, i always perform the following :
1. Charge to a true 100% (Battery Monitor Widget will register +0 to +2 mA)
2. Wipe battery stats using recovery (Amon RA has this option for the Evo, not sure about cwm), Battery Monitor Widget, or a dedicated app.
3. Discharge battery to 0% with normal usage. When the phone shuts down, I pull and re-install the battery and power back up (it will shutdown again very quickly).
4. Recharge battery and be on my merry way.
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I found one workaround solution for this issue on
ww.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=1684c50cea15282a&hl=en&fid=1684c50cea15282a0004af022e5ed212
Sproogle77 's solution
Problem solved. Using the OS Monitor app, I found that the main culprit was Google Services - the Contacts sync specifically. Even though I had this disabled (only Gmail was being allowed to sync) it was constantly working, apparently trying to fix a location. The message log showed that it was generating continuous debug messages, all about locations - around 10 of these every second.
I have solved the problem by disabling 'Use wireless networks' under the Locations & Security settings.'Use GPS satellites' is still running. This immediately dropped my CPU usage - which had been running around 30 to 40% even when otherwise idle, to around 10%. Google contacts sync is now using 0% of the CPU. The difference in battery life was pretty much immediate and is now back to what it was before - the change in the slope on the battery usage graph is remarkable!
This doesn't really seem like a solution to me, and I don't know whether other aspects of my functionality are being affected, but at least my phone is properly useable again.
I'm testing for 1 day and I think that's working for me.
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This is so weird. Why is the battery life worse?
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One reason is that the new version of the stock kernel removed a speed stepping, so it'll power to higher levels faster, thus using more battery.
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One reason is that the new version of the stock kernel removed a speed stepping, so it'll power to higher levels faster, thus using more battery.
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That actually isn't the problem. I'm using netarchy's kernel and still get this problem.
My battery life dropped from 16 hours --> 6 hours. the slope on my battery usage life is horrible the system is also awake almost constantly even when I'm not touching it / getting no messages.
I will try the fix suggested on the google support forum and see if that does the trick. sloppy update.
When my phone is fully charged or has 70 or 60% remaining battery it seems to drain as normal, around 2-5% over a 10 hour or so period...
However, I've noticed once the battery decreases below 50% it drains FAST, why?
Anyone else noticed this? Test it for yourselves, monitor the TIME it takes to decrease from 100 to 50% and then from 50% to 0.
Yesterday I forgot my phone in the car whilst going to work. It was turned on however it was sitting all day in the car.
Once I returned from work I was shocked to find the phone would not turn on.
At first I thought there was a problem or some kind of fault. Once I plugged in the charger it started to charge, the battery cut and the phone automatically turned off!
I remember the phone had around 48% battery remaining, no wifi or 3g or data turned on. It was simply idling...
So the question is HOW can the battery drain from 48% to 0% over a 10 hour period without being used???
Should my battery of been ANYTHING over 50% it would only lose a few percent...
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
boubou2k said:
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
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Same thing happnd with me, and charging my phone thru electric charger..
So it seems this behaviour happens to several other Note users, why?
It's a problem knowing that having around 50% left in your battery will struggle to make it through the day with little to no use...
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Haha, nice to know I'm not the ONLY one facing this bug...
I can only hope Ice Cream Sandwich solves this battery drain issue.
Hmm, i think i have the same problem, but i'm not sure. Will get back to this thread when i've investigated a little bit.
This may be a typical samsung issue.
I remember when i had the spica , the battery percentage lining in kernel was totally wrong. I think its done on purpose so you would feel like you have more battery life. 75 % of the battery drains slow. And the rest 25 super fast. Can be fixed within kernel.
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I believe its just a placebo effect. Battery usage always depends on so many factors its a pain to even consider starting looking for the issue.
Being on stock KK5 not rooted, i cannot report the same. I only see "fast battery drain" at the last 4-5%. If you feel its an issue, could you post the firmware version you are on and the battery stats graph just for reference?
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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When you get the chance, could you post the battery stats graph please? what we should see is a (lets say) 30 degrees angle and at about halfway it gets steeper.
I know its quite hard to demonstrate the issue, but if you lets say use wifi to browse the first 50% in text only sites and then visit youtube for the last 50%, it won't help the test.
A nice way to test it would be to charge it to 100%, then load up a long movie and repeat playing it till the battery is 2-3%. Then post the results.
roxxy said:
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Hey there!
I would suggest to load the battery 100%, plug it out, go into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I have to admit that I don´t know exactly what this workaround does, but I read about it in another forum...and it worked for me, my battery status is much more accurate now!
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Wifi will continue to scan for wlans near it every second or so
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I'm back. I've had the Diagnosis app running for the past hour, and i got some interesting results.
---Wiping battery stats does not help---, a full charge automatically causes battery stats reset.
I full charged mine with the electric charger after fully discharging it without turning it on.
This time i didn't notice any change in discharge speed between 100%-50% and 50%-0%.
Last time I charged the phone it was not fully discharged. Charged it from 30% to 50% then 50% to 75% on the computer, and 75% to 100% using electric charger.
It's just a supposition, but maybe doing several partial charges while using the phone makes the battery % information inaccurate (wrong battery stats?).
[Edit]In this case, wiping battery stats should show accurate battery %. [/Edit]
I had a similar problem, and I think it is to do with some incorrect scaling or measurement.
I was down to 28%, and it seemed to be draining fast even though I was not using it. I rebooted (I love how quick that is after my Arc was so slow). On restart it was at 17% ! The usage graph just did an instant drop.
I also had another occasion where it remained at 100% for 2 1/5 hours of use.
I assume some calibration issues caused the meter to read the battery wrong. I am turning off on the w/e overnight (when I do not need the alarm) to see if a slow (180 mA) charge while off will help. I may even get a decent alarm clock so I can turn the phone off at nights and charge. I spend too much time in the morning checking my email and reading news!
What is more consistent on mine is that when the battery drops to 9% or less the loss is like 1% per ~10-15% and this is with wifi/3g off, phone locked.
I'm back again. I've had some serious battery drain the last couple of days, but i noticed that Auto Sync was enabled. Once i deactivated it it got much better. Pulled the phone from the charger 9 hours ago and i'm at 90% battery left. I've sent some SMS, a few calls and that's about it, but it doesn't drain while it's in standby now, so i'm happy with it.
I'm noticing that battery life is worse in 4.2.2 - I was on cm10.1 nightlies w. Cm10.1 kernel and was getting about 10 hours screen-on time before I needed to charge, but I'm getting 7 hours at best on 4.2.2 stock (rooted, bootlader locked).
I have the usual culprits turned off - Google now, location services, currents background updates etc. So I hoped I would at least get the same.
Anyone else?
eager27 said:
I'm noticing that battery life is worse in 4.2.2 - I was on cm10.1 nightlies w. Cm10.1 kernel and was getting about 10 hours screen-on time before I needed to charge, but I'm getting 7 hours at best on 4.2.2 stock (rooted, bootlader locked).
I have the usual culprits turned off - Google now, location services, currents background updates etc. So I hoped I would at least get the same.
Anyone else?
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Put the latest cm10.1 build on. They merged in 4.2.2.
eager27 said:
I'm noticing that battery life is worse in 4.2.2 - I was on cm10.1 nightlies w. Cm10.1 kernel and was getting about 10 hours screen-on time before I needed to charge, but I'm getting 7 hours at best on 4.2.2 stock (rooted, bootlader locked).
I have the usual culprits turned off - Google now, location services, currents background updates etc. So I hoped I would at least get the same.
Anyone else?
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I have never gotten more than 8 hours of battery life with 4.2.1, but so far on 4.2.2 I'm down to 73 with 3:30 screen time, so I guess it got better for me
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blackhand1001 said:
Put the latest cm10.1 build on. They merged in 4.2.2.
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Yes! I just read that. I am just about to do it now.
I can't comment on battery life, but did notice something a little alarming with regard to battery drain. Was on the couch for an hour talking to someone using viber, just plain text. No video or audio. Tablet was plugged into the wall, and after about an hour i noticed that the battery had gone from 100% to 98%. Should not be possible for a simple messaging app to cause the battery to drain faster than it can charge. screen was on auto brightness as well.
hughlle said:
I can't comment on battery life, but did notice something a little alarming with regard to battery drain. Was on the couch for an hour talking to someone using viber, just plain text. No video or audio. Tablet was plugged into the wall, and after about an hour i noticed that the battery had gone from 100% to 98%. Should not be possible for a simple messaging app to cause the battery to drain faster than it can charge. screen was on auto brightness as well.
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Did you look at your battery information to see what was using the most energy? Display is always far and away the highest for me, and if it was on Auto Brightness, depending on the lighting around you, it could have been running at full brightness...which would be a pretty massive drain on battery.
hughlle said:
Tablet was plugged into the wall, and after about an hour i noticed that the battery had gone from 100% to 98%. Should not be possible for a simple messaging app to cause the battery to drain faster than it can charge
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Once the device reaches a full charge it cuts off the power draw to avoid damaging the battery. It's normal for it to hover between 97% and 100% while still plugged in.
I barely get 6 hours of use now.
Jackietreehorn said:
Did you look at your battery information to see what was using the most energy? Display is always far and away the highest for me, and if it was on Auto Brightness, depending on the lighting around you, it could have been running at full brightness...which would be a pretty massive drain on battery.
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I did not look at battery usage, but the screen was generally dimmed, where as normally i have it manually set to full brightness, and nothing was running in the background that would not normally be running, that is to say nothing other than android stuff, it's basically a tablet for internet, email and skype/viber while i watch films etc on my computer
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Once the device reaches a full charge it cuts off the power draw to avoid damaging the battery. It's normal for it to hover between 97% and 100% while still plugged in.
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Indeed, but this has never happened before and i typically run the device with screen on maximum brightness. on 4.2.1 it would always show 100% when plugged in, i never once saw it drop to 99% or below.
So without further analysis of the issue, it could either be that something is sucking more power, which would seem odd, or that the update has brought about changes to the way the device charges, or changes to the way the device displays the battery level.
Damn guys, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm jumping around in happiness when I manage to get over 6 hours of screen time lol.
I've been on battery for the past 12+ hours with about 6 hours 15 minutes screen time and still have 36% battery left. Battery seems at least as good as on 4.2.1.
... beamed from my Nexus 10 to your planet
bee55 said:
Damn guys, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm jumping around in happiness when I manage to get over 6 hours of screen time lol.
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if you are rooted change your processor speed to 1.5gHz, it really helped me get better battery life
so far at 6 hours of youtube with 50% left to go
filthygoat223996 said:
if you are rooted change your processor speed to 1.5gHz, it really helped me get better battery life
so far at 6 hours of youtube with 50% left to go
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Thanks, I've done this now, and get about 5~6 hours of screen time now with around 50% left.
My battery life has gotten considerably better after updating to 4.2.2. The biggest improvement is how little the battery life drains on standby...it's nearly nonexistent.
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Standby has always been great for me. With stock rooted 4.2.2 I'm getting great battery life. Loses maybe 2% after 8-10 hours idle. In constant use I'm averaging 11 hours on screen. I have everything on and synced but as I'm indoors I stick to 30% brightness. Also, I'm mostly just browsing. With games the life would be less for sure. Totally satisfied with the battery life of this tablet. If yours is getting truly bad battery life I suggest you try searching for rogue apps. After that, try a complete reflash of the stock image which deletes everything. Another thing I've found that helps performance is setting the WiFi band manually. As I have a pretty good router that utilizes both the 5 and 2.4ghz bands I set mine to 5ghz only. I live in a town house and 2.4ghz can be pretty congested even after turning my antenna power up to 150mv or greater. The 5ghz band is pretty open. I'm getting load times on webpages comparable to my i5 2500k sandy at 4.5ghz and ssd with its 5ghz WiFi n wireless card. This is the quickest rendering tablet I've ever used.
As an aside, the complete re image to stock 4.2.2 from Google might fix reboot problems as well. It seems to do wonders for people with battery and other issues on early n4s. My screen on mine is new but the hardware is from launch day.
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Well...
Well, I haven't tried that, but I have heard that many people said the update can help save battery.
i just got the update i was barley able to hit 3 hours screen time lets see how this one lasts.
sotorious said:
i just got the update i was barley able to hit 3 hours screen time lets see how this one lasts.
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Three hours T h a T Is horrible
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My battery life is significantly worse after the update. I flashed back to stock 4.2.2. It seems that the problem with mine is my tablet isn't sleeping. Android os is the highest battery user. Maps is taking a lot too. I have Google now and location services turned on so I'll try disabling those again... No rebooting though
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filthygoat223996 said:
if you are rooted change your processor speed to 1.5gHz, it really helped me get better battery life
so far at 6 hours of youtube with 50% left to go
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do you mean reducing the maximum cpu clock to 1.5 ghz?
When I got my N6P, I had expected standby time to be amazing thanks to Android Doze. My first day of use shows a lot of "awake" activity during the time when the phone is sitting on my bed side table, completely motionless.
Has anyone else had experience with their N6P doing the same? Am I doing something wrong that caused Doze to never activate?
As a frame of reference, when I went to bed the phone was at 47%. I took the screenshots when I woke up this morning.
Sorry if this is a silly question, but you have activated it haven't you?
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When I got my N6P, I had expected standby time to be amazing thanks to Android Doze. My first day of use shows a lot of "awake" activity during the time when the phone is sitting on my bed side table, completely motionless.
Has anyone else had experience with their N6P doing the same? Am I doing something wrong that caused Doze to never activate?
As a frame of reference, when I went to bed the phone was at 47%. I took the screenshots when I woke up this morning.
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Make sure it's on, and you've optimized all apps for battery savings. I lose 2% over night.
Won't be druv said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but you have activated it haven't you?
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How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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jamgam said:
How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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For at least 20 min.
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jamgam said:
How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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I activated mine when my phone arrived. Settings>battery then use the battery menu and select battery optimisation.
Very frustrating reading replies that say Doze must somehow be turned on. It DOES NOT have to be turned on. It's interwoven into Marshmallow automatically.
You can tinker with battery optimizations within the phone's battery settings, but that's about it.
Note: If your phone needs to conduct maintenance (update apps over WiFi, etc.) doze may not kick in the way you think. If your phone has nothing to do and is sitting still for an extended period of time, it'll enter Doze and only sip battery.
You can try greenify beta it has aggressive doze when screen goes off, just whitelist the apps you need to notify you immediately.
feralist said:
Very frustrating reading replies that say Doze must somehow be turned on. It DOES NOT have to be turned on. It's interwoven into Marshmallow automatically.
You can tinker with battery optimizations within the phone's battery settings, but that's about it.
Note: If your phone needs to conduct maintenance (update apps over WiFi, etc.) doze may not kick in the way you think. If your phone has nothing to do and is sitting still for an extended period of time, it'll enter Doze and only sip battery.
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Sorry, my bad. Battery optimisation is separate from doze then?
I'm seeing the same problem. 20% depleted in 7 hours overnight just sitting on my nightstand. Deep sleep in better battery stats showed 95%. Not sure what's going on.
How's your charging speed? It's nowhere close to what others are seeing. Even though it shows rapid charging, the amount of time to fully charge is high. 3 hours from 25%. 45 mins from 85% etc. Are you getting fast charging times? I can understand some process binging on my battery while running. I'm getting no more than 3 to 4 hours screen on time. But I don't understand why I would have slow charging times. But if you are also seeing slower charging time, then perhaps it could be.
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Sorry, my bad. Battery optimisation is separate from doze then?
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That's just a feature that lets you decide what apps can override any kind of battery optimization
Lost 1% in 6 hrs last night,make sure all apps are optimised in doze setting
os2baba said:
I'm seeing the same problem. 20% depleted in 7 hours overnight just sitting on my nightstand. Deep sleep in better battery stats showed 95%. Not sure what's going on.
How's your charging speed? It's nowhere close to what others are seeing. Even though it shows rapid charging, the amount of time to fully charge is high. 3 hours from 25%. 45 mins from 85% etc. Are you getting fast charging times? I can understand some process binging on my battery while running. I'm getting no more than 3 to 4 hours screen on time. But I don't understand why I would have slow charging times. But if you are also seeing slower charging time, then perhaps it could be.
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Looks like it could be Tasker. I'm going to uninstall it and see what happens.
http://androidcommunity.com/tasker-gets-updated-to-version-4-8-beta-fixes-marshmallow-issues-20151026/
Doze works great for me. For example, during the night, I only lose like 3 percent battery life. That's pretty freaking low. It's like I went to sleep at 75% and woke up at 72%. Very effective imo.
By the looks of it, doze should be on by default. Going into settings/battery/battery optimization-just shows which are optimized and which aren't. It's not an on/off thing.
The only apps I can't optimize is Android OS and dm service. What's dm service anyway
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os2baba said:
Looks like it could be Tasker. I'm going to uninstall it and see what happens.
http://androidcommunity.com/tasker-gets-updated-to-version-4-8-beta-fixes-marshmallow-issues-20151026/
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Unfortunately, that's done nothing. Lost 5% in 1 hour just sitting. BBS shows 76% in deep sleep. Screen on 1%. Awake (Screen off) 25%.
This was about 5 hours untouched on my table last night... Working fine...
The the thing I don't really like about doze is, it only works if the phone is flat on a table... Any type of movement, be it in pocket or even on the car dash, it won't come into play...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
This was about 5 hours untouched on my table last night... Working fine...
The the thing I don't really like about doze is, it only works if the phone is flat on a table... Any type of movement, be it in pocket or even on the car dash, it won't come into play...
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That horiztonal bar (a clear indication of Doze) just doesn't happen when leaving my phone overnight. The "awake" bars at the bottom of the battery screen in Settings is also switching on and off periodically when the phone should be dozing.
Does that mean a third-party app is the cause?
steveg545 said:
That horiztonal bar (a clear indication of Doze) just doesn't happen when leaving my phone overnight. The "awake" bars at the bottom of the battery screen in Settings is also switching on and off periodically when the phone should be dozing.
Does that mean a third-party app is the cause?
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My guess is yes, some app is staying awake.
It would also explain slow charging....something is eating up CPU cycles and preventing the phone from idling down and sleeping.
It isnt just a 6P thing either....my LG G2 with numerous ROMs/kernels has occasionally experienced issues like this. Almost 100% of the time it could be traced to an app that was misbehaving. You can use a battery tracking app (GSM battery monitor, better battery stats, etc) to get more detailed info. If you arent rooted Im not sure how detailed the info can get, but its probably a lot better than the stock battery graph.