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G1 without 3G usable?

HI.
My dad would like to buy a G1, but want to use his old handy contract.
There, he is able to make phone calls and write sms, but he will be charged for every kb he is using to surf the web.
This is fine for him. But how can i manage, that the G1 is not "talking" to the internetall the time. Is there any hack or app to disabel data usage? Officially, you can only say, use 2G instead of 3G. But i would like to only use wifi where it is possible and the rest of the time he would like to be offline.
Maybe you have a hint for me how to manage this.
Thanks

Delete all APNs and there you go - no data. Only when on "wifi mode"

but he wants to be able to send sms and make phone calls
changing all the apns really wont help him
i dont really think you can do anything but get a data plan
because the g1 sync with your google account
even on edge you need some sort of data plan so your phone can talk to the google servers and download updates to your contacts or calendar changes (if hes going use all that)
i think there is a different way
in the market there is an app called wisync (chk spelling)
and it synce when you are connected to a wifi connection
so i guess you could get a regular plan without data and have someone else activate the phone for you (With your dads email) and then insert your dads chip into the phone and then turn on wisync and let it sync up. the in the settings put "use only 2g networks"
hope this helps a little

Phone calls + sms have nothing to do with APNs. APNs are used only for DATA connection (MMS too), but not used for voice(except VOIP). You can delete them all and still use the "phone" as "phone" so to speak

What I would recommend for your dad is to download APNdroid which enables you to enable the dataconnection when you need it. This way you can enable or disable data connectivity whenever he wants to.

Zappza said:
What I would recommend for your dad is to download APNdroid which enables you to enable the dataconnection when you need it. This way you can enable or disable data connectivity whenever he wants to.
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You might want to check out WiSyncPlus. It can control your APNs, has a scheduler to allow automated net access, has far more features and APNdroid+WiSync, and can drastically improve battery life. Click on the graph to zoom in. Its available on the market.

Cupcake and Data Roaming

Hi, I've got a trip from the UK (my home netword) to Morocco at the end of the week, and I'm doubtful of whether I should take my ADP1 (cupcaked) as before I wasn't aware of ways to prevent apps asking for data.
Hawever, I see there are now two options:
1. Within Mobile Network Settings there is a "Data Roaming: Connect to data services when roaming" box which is unticked (good)
2. "Background data: Enable background data usage" within Data synchronisation.
Can I assume if I turn 2 off, and keep 1 turned off, no apps at all will be able to ask/get data when I'm roaming? Because I've made that (expensive) mistake before... Or is there something else I need to do?
There's also an Any Cut idea here: http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidDev&message.id=152 which sounds very secure, is it necessary though?

I use Useful Switcher http://www.cyrket.com/package/maximyudin.usefulswitchersdonate
and
APN Droid http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.google.code.apndroid
They are very useful apps to quickly toggle Data/EDGE/3G/Wifi/GPS.
That said when I travelled from UK to Portugal last week, simply unchecking the Data Roaming option was sufficient. Every time I switched the phone on it would ask me if I realised that I had no data connection and would I like to enable it. Obviously at £8 per Mb I said "No"!
Jim

Trouble Connecting to AT&T EDGE on my Topaz

Hi! I am experiencing trouble connecting to AT&T EDGE on my unlocked Topaz. I purchased this phone aware of the fact that I wasn't going to have 3G available but not having EDGE as well is very disappointing.
I have an AT&T GoPhone account and I have also installed the recommended settings from the Connection Wizard that popped up when I had inserted my SIM Card. However, I constantly have a gray E icon on my status bar and I am unable to access the internet. When I test the internet connection by trying to update the weather I get the following error: "The answering modem disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings."
I have called AT&T they kept me waiting for an hour and were not able to help me. They were going to file a report for the tech support to review but they did not file the report that because I did not have another telephone number to give to them beside my cell phone for them to call me back(I am an international college student, I don't have a land line). I then tried to get help from their online chat support but their system won't allow me because my account is a GoPhone. So I am stuck here with my $450 dollar phone not able to enjoy its features to its full extent .
Is there anyone else that has experienced this problem? Or is there anyone that could help me configure the connection settings manually?
Thanks!

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Hi! I am experiencing trouble connecting to AT&T EDGE on my unlocked Topaz. I purchased this phone aware of the fact that I wasn't going to have 3G available but not having EDGE as well is very disappointing.
I have an AT&T GoPhone account and I have also installed the recommended settings from the Connection Wizard that popped up when I had inserted my SIM Card. However, I constantly have a gray E icon on my status bar and I am unable to access the internet. When I test the internet connection by trying to update the weather I get the following error: "The answering modem disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings."
I have called AT&T they kept me waiting for an hour and were not able to help me. They were going to file a report for the tech support to review but they did not file the report that because I did not have another telephone number to give to them beside my cell phone for them to call me back(I am an international college student, I don't have a land line). I then tried to get help from their online chat support but their system won't allow me because my account is a GoPhone. So I am stuck here with my $450 dollar phone not able to enjoy its features to its full extent .
Is there anyone else that has experienced this problem? Or is there anyone that could help me configure the connection settings manually?
Thanks!
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Check with your service provider that the edge service is enabled for your account. Then check you have paid for the correct plan (I don't know the procedure that applies to AT&T, but they may require all this).
If you have everything enabled/paid for then there is no technical reason why you should not be able to connect unless there is no service in your area!

pa49 said:
Check with your service provider that the edge service is enabled for your account. Then check you have paid for the correct plan (I don't know the procedure that applies to AT&T, but they may require all this).
If you have everything enabled/paid for then there is no technical reason why you should not be able to connect unless there is no service in your area!
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pa49, thanks for your reply. I am sure that edge service is enabled for GoPhone accounts (not 3g though) and I am sure there is service in the area. If I am not wrong, the gray "E" icon on my status bar is telling me that there is edge available but that I am not able to connect to it.
I am just hoping that there is someone here that is using an unlocked HTC touch diamond2 in the united states that is able to access the internet via edge.

erdamn said:
Hi! I am experiencing trouble connecting to AT&T EDGE on my unlocked Topaz. I purchased this phone aware of the fact that I wasn't going to have 3G available but not having EDGE as well is very disappointing.
I have an AT&T GoPhone account and I have also installed the recommended settings from the Connection Wizard that popped up when I had inserted my SIM Card. However, I constantly have a gray E icon on my status bar and I am unable to access the internet. When I test the internet connection by trying to update the weather I get the following error: "The answering modem disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings."
I have called AT&T they kept me waiting for an hour and were not able to help me. They were going to file a report for the tech support to review but they did not file the report that because I did not have another telephone number to give to them beside my cell phone for them to call me back(I am an international college student, I don't have a land line). I then tried to get help from their online chat support but their system won't allow me because my account is a GoPhone. So I am stuck here with my $450 dollar phone not able to enjoy its features to its full extent .
Is there anyone else that has experienced this problem? Or is there anyone that could help me configure the connection settings manually?
Thanks!
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Go into Settings\Connections\Connections\Advanced and make sure both networks are set to MediaNet and take out the proxy server if there is one.

Bruce Inman said:
Go into Settings\Connections\Connections\Advanced and make sure both networks are set to MediaNet and take out the proxy server if there is one.
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It didn't work

erdamn said:
It didn't work
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Ok. Make sure you have the correct settings. Then in Manage existing connections tap and hold the modem connection and delete the entry. Reset the phone and then input the settings again manually. Don't let the phone run the auto connection setup.

pa49 said:
Ok. Make sure you have the correct settings. Then in Manage existing connections tap and hold the modem connection and delete the entry. Reset the phone and then input the settings again manually. Don't let the phone run the auto connection setup.
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Unfortunately what you have suggested is not working also :S.
Maybe I have something wrong with my settings. Even though I have done a lot of searching in order to find the correct settings for an Unlocked Diamond2, I have not been able to find the settings specifically for an Unlocked Diamond2 with WM6.1/6.5. The settings I found were for previous versions of WM or were for another HTC model.

erdamn said:
Unfortunately what you have suggested is not working also :S.
Maybe I have something wrong with my settings. Even though I have done a lot of searching in order to find the correct settings for an Unlocked Diamond2, I have not been able to find the settings specifically for an Unlocked Diamond2 with WM6.1/6.5. The settings I found were for previous versions of WM or were for another HTC model.
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What radio are you running?

I hate to say it but I don't think your going to get it to work. And I'm sorry because its all my fault! See for the past 4 years I have been a DM for AT&T and one day I was braging to our "smartphone support team" about how with my 8925+WMWifi+PayGo account with the 19.95 unlimited data package I could brodcast 3g wifi speeds through out my entire house with no need to worry about being charged overages for the 5GB soft limit (simply because no "real" info is needed to create a paygo account you can just say your name is Jon Doe and the give you one)
Two days later I got an email that the prepaid unlimited internet service had been disscontinued forever :-(..... And much more security was added to the system....
Your best bet to get internet working on the device is to put your sim card in an old moto razor (this way your razr IMEI doesn't flag you as a "smartphone" ) dial 611 and subscribe to the highest data package you can which is like 200MB or something.
Then you can put your sim card back in the TD2 and you should be good to go... for 200Mb's that is.... then your SOL...
and again sorry... you know what they say "loose lips sink ships"

or if you have a credit card or bank account switch to Pick-Your-Plan its a lot cheaper minute wise in the long run and you can have unlimited data just make sure to give them a bogus IMEI to some crappy razr you can find in every household....

Turn off data (but keep wifi) for international travel (using local SIM)?

I'll be out of the country and wanted to pick up a local SIM card. I'm not sure it will have data available on this local SIM (or lets assume it might, but might be crazy expensive).
I'd like to use the phone only for calls and also use the wifi for some very limited browsing (so I don't have to cart a laptop with me).
What setting combination do I need for this? I can't do full "airplane mode" b/c I will want to enable the wifi radio.
thanks,
Mike

To answer my own question (a few more hours of Googling), it looks like APNDroid may be the answer to this dilemna... but if there is something better, would love to hear about it.

Hmm well if you get a card with no data service then you have nothing to worry about. Just find a wifi signal and you're set. If you do get data service but still want to use only wifi, one solution is to only use data services when you're connected with wifi...... and don't use them when you're not...... the phone will prefer wifi over 3G/EDGE when its connected. If you really need to get rambo with it you can just break your APN settings to guarantee no data connection over the network

pimpin214 said:
Hmm well if you get a card with no data service then you have nothing to worry about. Just find a wifi signal and you're set. If you do get data service but still want to use only wifi, one solution is to only use data services when you're connected with wifi...... and don't use them when you're not...... the phone will prefer wifi over 3G/EDGE when its connected. If you really need to get rambo with it you can just break your APN settings to guarantee no data connection over the network
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(smacks forehead).... good point about the SIM if it doesn't support data
what is rambo? when I search "rambo android" all I get is references to an Indian cartoon.

zim2dive said:
I'll be out of the country and wanted to pick up a local SIM card. I'm not sure it will have data available on this local SIM (or lets assume it might, but might be crazy expensive).
I'd like to use the phone only for calls and also use the wifi for some very limited browsing (so I don't have to cart a laptop with me).
What setting combination do I need for this? I can't do full "airplane mode" b/c I will want to enable the wifi radio.
thanks,
Mike
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Go to Market and download "Toggle Data" might even be one word. Its a widget i i think this is what your looking for.

zim2dive said:
what is rambo? when I search "rambo android" all I get is references to an Indian cartoon.
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haha...
Rambo... see attached.
What I mean is you can break the access point settings by, for instance, removing the password in Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. That way your phone would still make calls but couldn't connect to the mobile data network if it tried. There may be more subtle methods, but the commando approach is often more fun... do a google image search for commando if you're not sure what i mean
Unless you know the Access Point password, it may be more practical to alter the Access Point Name if you want to maintain the ability to connect later - ie, if I changed mine from "epc.tmobile.com" to "epc.immobile.com", I could change it back later.

pimpin214 said:
haha...
Rambo... see attached.
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ah yes.. the brute force approach ... I know it well
What I mean is you can break the access point settings by, for instance, removing the password in Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. That way your phone would still make calls but couldn't connect to the mobile data network if it tried. There may be more subtle methods, but the commando approach is often more fun... do a google image search for commando if you're not sure what i mean
Unless you know the Access Point password, it may be more practical to alter the Access Point Name if you want to maintain the ability to connect later - ie, if I changed mine from "epc.tmobile.com" to "epc.immobile.com", I could change it back later.
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if I understand correctly that is what APNDroid will do for me (post #2)

What's causing internet connections while roaming?

Hi folks,
Just back from my first holiday in France with my HD2 and, despite setting weather, Facebook, Twitter and email not to automatically download while roaming, something seemed to be establishing a GPRS/EDGE connection occasionally.
Any suggestions on what this could be or how to identify it?
Thanks,
Kris

stocks? weather? time sync?

If you dont want to have any data charges then I strongly recomend NoDatainRoaming by Dynamic+. It automatically switches off data connection (same as modoco no data) when you leave your home area but when you get back to your home area it turns it back on. No more forgeting to turn it off.

irishkris said:
Hi folks,
Just back from my first holiday in France with my HD2 and, despite setting weather, Facebook, Twitter and email not to automatically download while roaming, something seemed to be establishing a GPRS/EDGE connection occasionally.
Any suggestions on what this could be or how to identify it?
Thanks,
Kris
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Same here .
i just returned from the USA .
before i walked on the plane i turned off all data connections .
i turned on my phone to take some pictures with it while in the USA . came home to find out i have about 120$ of fee's .
:/

you guys are lucky
I took a trip up to Gunma prefecture in Japan for new year. I came back to Taiwan and I had 800 us dollars phone charge... I didn't even take pictures with the phone I just brought it with me!

Had a similar issue in Greece. Footprints and google maps both seem to automatically start the data connection when they start. I have a feeling that the compass may do as well. Could be something to do with quick GPS trying to download updates?
I've been using modoco no data to good effect. May give NoDatainRoaming a go if it's automatic

same thing on mu dubai trip.. .These connections turn on automatically .

NoData works for me, just configure before you power down the phone to fly

RSS Reader has no Roaming setting so if you've got it on AUTO, best switch that off.

A quick search would certainly have brought the answer to all of you!
Don't be lazy!
Anyway, here's the solution: Go to "All Settings" --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, simply select "My Work Network" everywhere.
With that setting, your phone is only allowed to use WiFi. There's no need for third party tools or anything, it's that simple.

My Location?
I think it is more important to find out what is making data connection and how to disable it, rather than using nodata to suppress everything. What if you really need to use HSPA/GRPS during roaming? You need to know how to enable data connection and do your thing without the HD2 automatically doing a lot of other data traffic in the background.

Alex,
That's exactly my concern - I'd like to be able to use the net knowing the HD2 isn't going to pull down a load of other stuff as well.
The weather tab is set not to connect while roaming, stocks are the same and RSS is configured not to automatically update at all.
The only two other things people mentioned are time sync and my location - how can I tell if those are connecting while roaming.
Kris

does anyone know how my location actually works?... cell broadcasting, gps, or how?... i set up the send no location info in settings and automaticly decline htc location service and the phone still knows were i am....

irishkris said:
The only two other things people mentioned are time sync and my location - how can I tell if those are connecting while roaming.
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I have no idea HD2 is doing timesync, or how I can disable it. As for my location, disable it in the Settings tab.
ccezar2004 said:
does anyone know how my location actually works?... cell broadcasting, gps, or how?... i set up the send no location info in settings and automaticly decline htc location service and the phone still knows were i am....
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I believe phone gets cell tower ID via normal handshake operation. Then it asks Google to translate it to a city name. It is the second part that consumes internet data traffic.
There is yet another possibility of hidden data traffic. I think HD2 has AGPS, but there is not interface to enable/disable it. Similar to My Location, AGPS translates cell tower ID to location, and triangulates to pin point where you are. Much quicker than GPS, but not as precise. If it is so, then it explains why taking pictures leads to data traffic.