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Hi All,
I'm wondering if anyone has had any success streaming media to their A7. I currently have a NAS drive on my network and stream media to all my other devices (Archos 70, Archos 5 Android, EVO, etc.) but for some reason I cannot get the A7 to actually play anything from this network location.
I have been able to navigate to the files themselves, but playing them has not worked out so well. I've tried a variety of Apps and different file formats, but none seem to work. I can attempt to open files, and even get prompted to use various Apps, but nothing seems to work after that, it just fails. Anyone have any ideas or success with this effort please let me know as this is a biggie for me.
Sorry if this is a dup question, as I could not find anything about this for this device in particular.
And many thanks to Dexter, you've made this device surpass it's otherwise limited capabilities. Seems silly such a quality product is being left behind by the Stream, but this seems to be the model of all tablet makers these days. Pump them out as fast as possible regardless of full functionality and forget about them a month later!
The only way I've gotten streaming to work is by using PlayOn.
hi I can access all my movies on my hard drives and play on my a7 this way
download TVersity media server from tveristy.com. I just use the free version. It will change your home page when you install it so you will need to change it back. Install that on your pc and then add your movie files to the library.
On your a7 download a app called skifta from the market and install that. when you run this choose a media source choose TVeristy media server. Under player choose your a7.
then choose browse and play media you will see your library files you added in tversity and some other stuff. You will need a video player installed on your a7. I have act 1 video player and also rockplayer. It will let you choose which to use when you select movie.
select one and your movie should start. Your movies have to be in a compatable format.
it also will let you play music and view photos
I also have a wd live movie box on my tv. With this same setup I can redirect the movie to wdlive box by choosing it as player and the it will playback the movie on my tv.
Thanks for the advice (both of you). I was really hoping for a more direct approach though. I've used apps like Orb that require you to run a host computer, and my NAS drive (Buffalo Linkstation) has a web app built in, but both these methods have proven very slow and often frustrating when trying to access via mobile networks. It just seems odd to me that the A7 doesn't do this while most other Android hardware does. Granted I'm more familiar with Archos products and they specialize in media players. Will keep trying though, Thanks!
DANOinSD said:
Granted I'm more familiar with Archos products and they specialize in media players. Will keep trying though, Thanks!
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the platform you refer to is different from Tegra2/Nvidia, and you can blame Nvidia for the stock codecs they support.. they partly added mkv's now in latest update.. but 1080p mkv's still stutter on a7 and other tegra2 devices..
LG with their Optimus 2X added their own custom player, and since its incorporated into the framework, its hard to make it run on other devices for now.. but nvidia is primary source for what we can use it for now..
archos is a different story and they havent got what tegra2 can offer for the future, so it might play alot of media's but not perfect for android at all.
Thanks for the info Dex!
Think I'm gonna get a XOOM (been drooling over some honey), then I can officially make my A7 a tinker toy!
by the way, the new 1.41 rom kicks ass, the motoblur keyboard is soo much better!
Wondering if anyone else is experimenting with this...
I have a fire tv stick and i downloaded some apps that are exclusive to that platform. I did an ADB pull from the fire tv system and installed them on my Nexus Player.
Including the Slingplayer app and some other video apps.
Most of the apps start just fine but fail when trying to start the video. Has me thinking there is some kind of framework that the fire tv has that renders these apps useless on other android devices.
Also may have to do with the fact that it is an Intel chip inside of the Nexus player and Apps coded to work solely on the fire tv devices wont work right since they are coded from snapdragon chips
Anyone know of a way to circumvent these blocks? Any info would be helpful
I've actually been wanting to experiment with this but I don't have a FireTV stick.
I did try to pull some video apps (i.e.-History, A&E, Amazon Instant Video) from my phone. They all installed correctly but, like your issue, they crashed. Makes me think its a library thing or certain missing files as most of those apps work on Lollirock.
Hmm interesting. I don't really want to use lollirock because I really like the UI currently. I can post the Amazon apps here atleast the free ones to see what's different about them.
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I agree with you. I actually like the ability to navigate with the remote only. The one app I wish we could find a way to make work in our factory rom is Amazon Instant. It's definitely possible because it works in lollirock.
Sorry folks, but Nexus Player is an intel atom x86 based architecture while the FireTV (and Stick) are ARM based. That means unless the .apk's ship the correct bits for both architectures, you're not going to get the Fire TV apps running on Nexus Player (for example in the case of Sling Player, there are libraries specific to ARM that are included in the .apk on the Fire TV store, but they don't include the x86 version).
I'd love this to work, but in most cases I highly doubt it will.
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Sorry folks, but Nexus Player is an intel atom x86 based architecture while the FireTV (and Stick) are ARM based. That means unless the .apk's ship the correct bits for both architectures, you're not going to get the Fire TV apps running on Nexus Player (for example in the case of Sling Player, there are libraries specific to ARM that are included in the .apk on the Fire TV store, but they don't include the x86 version).
I'd love this to work, but in most cases I highly doubt it will.
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Redth, although x86 can be a limiting factor, you have to keep in mind that we have "houdini" translator code built into our Nexus Player. Think of houdini as an arm translator to let us run most arm apps on our device. That is why we can successfully sideload so many apps (minus the fact we have to use a keyboard & mouse to operate it). For instance, I have successfully gotten new recently released apps like the Sling TV apk to work that was originally designed for the FireTV. I also have apps like WatchESPN, & USA Network working successfully.
Also, you have to keep in mind that Amazon instant Video is also working on Lollirock, so it definitely is possible & functioning on our device. It just looks like we are missing certain libraries.
@xaudiblex then perhaps the limiting factor is the required libs that the arm built executable uses. I don't remember the exact libs from the FireTV Slingplayer apk, but there were what looked like some .so files built with c/c++ that were linked in and accessed over JNI. I'm guessing the translator can't handle those, and that may be why Slingplayer in particular doesn't work.
It's a shame, I'd love to get slingplayer working!
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@xaudiblex then perhaps the limiting factor is the required libs that the arm built executable uses. I don't remember the exact libs from the FireTV Slingplayer apk, but there were what looked like some .so files built with c/c++ that were linked in and accessed over JNI. I'm guessing the translator can't handle those, and that may be why Slingplayer in particular doesn't work.
It's a shame, I'd love to get slingplayer working!
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Unfortunately, I had to uninstall Lollirock. If I ever get a chance, I want to check out the differences in the files between stock rom & lollirock. Maybe if we can determine what extra libraries exist that allow those extra apps to work on Lollirock, maybe can transplant those files onto our nexus player.
Where can I find the sling TV .apk from the Fire Tv? I been trying to find it via Google with no luck and I cannot get from the Amazon store because none of my devices are compatible. Thanks!
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Where can I find the sling TV .apk from the Fire Tv? I been trying to find it via Google with no luck and I cannot get from the Amazon store because none of my devices are compatible. Thanks!
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http://webapp.movetv.com/player/firetv/sling.apk
Works great on our nexus player too.
Great! Thank you so much! I hope it is better than the generic Android.apk I have side loaded!
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Great! Thank you so much! I hope it is better than the generic Android.apk I have side loaded!
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It definitely does. That is the official APK from their website. The remote actually works on it too! If you know how to decompile apks, you can add leanback code to it as well.
Did you ever get the Fire TV Slingplayer app to work? If not does it load and just crash when you try to do something? That is seriously the only thing I need for the Nexus Player for it to be perfect. I have the tablet Slingplayer app but without a mouse it is pretty much good for turning on and turning off not able to change channels with it.
flixster
anybody know where to find the fire tv flixster apk? i cant seem to find it anywhere.
For me at least, the Amazon Fire Sling TV app has worked perfectly. I had it crash on me once several days back but that was it. I have been watching it all day today without any hiccups. The quality of the video has generally been solid.
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anybody know where to find the fire tv flixster apk? i cant seem to find it anywhere.
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I pulled the APK from my FireTV & installed it on the Nexus Player (also tried watch ESPN since it works with remotes). The app starts up fine but it crashes anytime you try to play a video.
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I pulled the APK from my FireTV & installed it on the Nexus Player (also tried watch ESPN since it works with remotes). The app starts up fine but it crashes anytime you try to play a video.
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That's the problem with most amazon fire only video apps. There is something in the code that causes them to crash or just simply fail to play video when used on anything else. Atleast the sling.tv app works fine
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That's the problem with most amazon fire only video apps. There is something in the code that causes them to crash or just simply fail to play video when used on anything else. Atleast the sling.tv app works fine
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I tried to compare the Fire TV APK & Google Play APK of WatchESPN (as an example) to see if there is much difference. The structure of the files are substantially different.
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For me at least, the Amazon Fire Sling TV app has worked perfectly. I had it crash on me once several days back but that was it. I have been watching it all day today without any hiccups. The quality of the video has generally been solid.
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Do you happen to have the apk that works for you?
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Do you happen to have the apk that works for you?
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After the addition of the new channels (History, H2, & etc), the FireTV apk I was using from Amazon kept on crashing. I ended up downloading the apk (downloaded from Google Play store) from my phone & sideloaded it to my Nexus Player. Remote works perfectly fine with it.
I like the nVidia shield TV.
But now it has happened, my visit had brought a BluRay.
Since asked myself the question whether it is possible to connect a BD drive to the shield TV and play movies?
That would be very awesome, if that were possible. Can you help me there possibly more?
Yes and no. You will probably need to find or write your own drivers, and compile your own software low level, possibly down to kernel depending on what the shield supports. On top of that, it's going to be a dificult process getting it to play once you simply have it mounted. Here is an example of someone getting a TVT drive to work on a transformer, then an update removed this ability even, and that's just a DVD player. (Check the rest of the thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29383430&postcount=4
These are streaming devices, and optical media is dying as much as the stores try to tell you it's not. I highly suggest ripping your own media assuming the legality in your country and setting up a media streaming box or use your home PC if it'll handle it. Google, nor other box companies, are likely to try to add support as it's extra bloat to many, and on top of that, many that own movies will buy a digital copy if they want it and can't/won't rip their own media. If you can get a gathering of people who want it, and some good programmers who see a need, you may get support via custom software, but I would'nt hold your breath. If I can answer any more questions, or you would like something more clear, please let me know. Hope you enjoy your shield!
TLDR: Not now, and not likely. Sorry.
I gotta ask, why bother? BR owners generally fall into two categories - people with BR players and the tiny minority like me that rip movies to a server and stream the movies. Which ever method you were using before you got a nSATV will still work now. Most likely that means leaving your BR player (stand alone, PS3, whatever) hooked up to a different HDMI port. Moving forward, I agree with kdb424 - rip your movies and stream them. This could be a full Plex server setup, or something as simple as a network share + Kodi.
I have a hard time saying "just buy all your new movies from a streaming source" because I personally will not do that until Amazon Instant video is officially supported on Android TV, including the nSATV. The reasons are simple, I'm already a Prime member just for the shipping deals so many of the movies I would otherwise possibly buy are free, it's supported by every device I use other than nSATV, and I want all my purchased shows/movies to be from a single source.
I can understand that it really is not worth the effort.
However, with my friends, it is still generally the rule that they have and bring DVDs or Blurays.
You can rent them also for very little money, in video stores.
It would be easy to offer only to have a single device, with which I can play everything.
I have connected to the test a BD drive to the "shield TV" and can choose to be mounted the disc. The drive will be recognized as a memory.
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I can understand that it really is not worth the effort.
However, with my friends, it is still generally the rule that they have and bring DVDs or Blurays.
You can rent them also for very little money, in video stores.
It would be easy to offer only to have a single device, with which I can play everything.
I have connected to the test a BD drive to the "shield TV" and can choose to be mounted the disc. The drive will be recognized as a memory.
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So you are saying that you could get it to mount? If so you should be able to play it with Kodi or VLC (I recommend kodi) as it has disk support, but I haven't heard of anyone getting optical mediums of any sort working with android well. Hoping you have solved it.
I can see under Storage in the settings the drive but can not mount.
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I think no player can read br format yet. Only licenced ones like power DVD and stuff like that can. You better download a mkv bd rip under 4gb (or rip yourself) and put it on a fat 32 micro sd or USB hdd or thumb drive. Then read it with vlc,kodi or the mkv/mp4 player of your choice.I guess it is the only way.
Or directly download from the shield itself if you can.
bega said:
I can understand that it really is not worth the effort.
However, with my friends, it is still generally the rule that they have and bring DVDs or Blurays.
You can rent them also for very little money, in video stores.
It would be easy to offer only to have a single device, with which I can play everything.
I have connected to the test a BD drive to the "shield TV" and can choose to be mounted the disc. The drive will be recognized as a memory.
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Bega, can you try to play a dvd or music cd through kodi on the shield?
No. If i click to mount the "USB Storage", it goes back to the screen before and show that the " USB storage is unmounted and can safely removed"
At kodi i can´t the the storage.
Yes it can be done only by mount the Bluray drive on the network instead of the USB route,
Then use Xbmc search for mounted d drive connect and play away, I use the vidonxbmc version with the beast version loaded onto of vidonxbmc so I can play back Bluray menu support so far it works flawlessly u can mount a bunch of virtual drives if u have ISO as well
This is on my shield TV.
This person seems to have a player/drive that works. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63104740&postcount=12
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This person seems to have a player/drive that works. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63104740&postcount=12
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Well yes it works for DVDs and MP4 but blueray codecs are licensed and not supported yet from open source players (vlc,kodi,plex...)
Yes but maybe no.
I know there is an (As seen on TV) Digiland tablet with a built-in DVD player, and there is an app on the tablet which plays the DVDs. So it's differently possible to watch DVD on an android device, and since Android TV is based on Regular Android, so it's possible to use any android app, but I tried searching "digiland dvd app "apk"", it just took me to the apks for FRP Bypass. If you happen to come across an apk, try using an external DVD player, you said Blu-Ray though. I mean, I did not look for a way to get Blu-rays working yet,
but I know that Blu-ray discs come with a DVD version, but 4K UHD Blu-ray discs don't come with DVDs. Yes, I get how nobody likes the 480p DVD video, but I am still searching for something that will work with Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray.
Link to the Digiland DVD Tablet combo on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/DigiLand-Portable-10-1-Inch-Touchscreen-Quad-Core/dp/B07JM892ZL
Hi, is it possible to easily install Linux and run PVR and bluray player software (ISO or drive), with Linux USB drivers for bluray drives and USB tuners, like you can on the PC?
Another issue is, if it will be possible to buy linux UltraHD Bluray player software and get it to work. I believe there is currently none, but is there any on the horizon?
On linux, is it possible to do this as a bluray PVR with a Linux that works as a layer on Android, or with dual boot, as Ubuntu on Android was to work?
I was attracted to the Shield when I first saw it, but it does not do what I wanted. I have a bluray drive and multiple USB tuners laying around that I could use instead of buying a deficient Windows 10 atom ultra small media PC.
I would just like to say, if only Nvidia would support a windowed Linux player, or dual boot, on shield Android TV both in separate sandboxes, with Linux driver support for all USB devices, it would solve a lot of issues with Shield functionality, and protect Android apps digital rights and the OS. It would greatly expanded the shields user base. However, they could make available apps for playing bluray/bluray 4k, and pvr recording, supporting generic USB tuners and bluray drives, as Linux already does through MythTV and Kodi but not the Shield.
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Hi, is it possible to easily install Linux and run PVR and bluray player software (ISO or drive), with Linux USB drivers for bluray drives and USB tuners, like you can on the PC?
Another issue is, if it will be possible to buy linux UltraHD Bluray player software and get it to work. I believe there is currently none, but is there any on the horizon?
On linux, is it possible to do this as a bluray PVR with a Linux that works as a layer on Android, or with dual boot, as Ubuntu on Android was to work?
I was attracted to the Shield when I first saw it, but it does not do what I wanted. I have a bluray drive and multiple USB tuners laying around that I could use instead of buying a deficient Windows 10 atom ultra small media PC.
I would just like to say, if only Nvidia would support a windowed Linux player, or dual boot, on shield Android TV both in separate sandboxes, with Linux driver support for all USB devices, it would solve a lot of issues with Shield functionality, and protect Android apps digital rights and the OS. It would greatly expanded the shields user base. However, they could make available apps for playing bluray/bluray 4k, and pvr recording, supporting generic USB tuners and bluray drives, as Linux already does through MythTV and Kodi but not the Shield.
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I think It's possible to make shield to support PVR, you can design your AP to do it. beacuse shiled is android system, it have common android interface.
Thanks for that, I'm here about developing something else. I'm just asking for advice (or feature request, what ever suites people). When I am up to 10 posts I can post a thread on that in the appropriate forum.
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Thanks for that, I'm here about developing something else. I'm just asking for advice (or feature request, what ever suites people). When I am up to 10 posts I can post a thread on that in the appropriate forum.
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interesting this.
Yeah, I'm a newbie to all this, from back in the days that C++ was new and untaught I'll n my college. I'm interested in doing a video compression codec on Android for camera and very video. Shield seems like a good development target. So I'm waiting to ask over at developers rather than in n the wrong forum. Should be able to compress 4k even 8k, with small file and reduced processing overheads.
Stevio2 said:
Yeah, I'm a newbie to all this, from back in the days that C++ was new and untaught I'll n my college. I'm interested in doing a video compression codec on Android for camera and very video. Shield seems like a good development target. So I'm waiting to ask over at developers rather than in n the wrong forum. Should be able to compress 4k even 8k, with small file and reduced processing overheads.
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Im with the other guy..........very interesting idea
Stevio2 said:
Yeah, I'm a newbie to all this, from back in the days that C++ was new and untaught I'll n my college. I'm interested in doing a video compression codec on Android for camera and very video. Shield seems like a good development target. So I'm waiting to ask over at developers rather than in n the wrong forum. Should be able to compress 4k even 8k, with small file and reduced processing overheads.
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sure，shield tv codec performance is very good,4k maybe no problem.
But before this, I think you need to get frames from usb camera firstly. this need UVC knowledge.
Well, I'm interested in high end camera acquisition using Android, and Shield is a leading device. I don't need to acquire from a camera myself, but practice on uncompressed footage, and develop a streamlined codec for it and register it on the device as an available codec so any camera, editing and player can use it, then charge a fee per device to download it from playstore. I am going to be just fishing for information to see what I need to address. I actually want to develop it within JavaScript primarily for web and Firefox is use, so will have to find out the best way to transfer it to Android for compilation. As I know next to nothing about these new languages, it will be an uphill learning curve. I'd rather create my own language than spend so long learning another full of dross. As I can understand JavaScript syntax is separate from Java, and not a even a logical subset, which makes life hard.
So, with Android, previous high level camera projects have failed due to the underlying restrictions of the android camera interface and customisations from phone to phone, but also Androids slow nature. L and M address this somewhat, but for the codec I would probably have to write a backend to acquire the frames from the hardware to the codecs quick enough, which I don't want to do, but if I can't get frame data delivery fast enough I will have to look at it. I want to use gpu or other processing unit instead of the processor mainly, for power efficiency and speed, but realise nothing is simple. All that sort of stuff that you have to do because it was not done right in the first place. So, avoiding going through slower high end camera interfaces as much as possible. I understand it is all based on a standard Linux camera api. If the camera software does not have to rewritten and it can deliver frame data at streamlined timely speeds to a codec, then I can avoid much of this. Now, on the other side we have storage Hopefully the data rate can be small enough to avoid issues, but that is unlikely on a 4k-8k frame. Hmm, maybe I should just give up the codec was supposed to be a side project to test out what I want to do in JavaScript.
Anyway, it is a shame we don't have a kick starter like funding scheeme, to pay a good programmer to do most of the background stuff, and upgrade the Linux code and drivers, so anybody can use the new code with any codec and camera app combination. My main interest is my own codec, not all the other stuff, that is really fixing Android and linux camera code, which would help everybody.
Actually, I know a company that might be able to get interested in doing such open source back end work with under funding, but I don't know if they are skilled in that sort of thing. Vizzygig. I'll look at asking on the thread.
Anyway, back onto the Linux on Android bluray/pvr home theatre questions?
I have just set up a advice request thread for the camera codec project here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...ompression-t3251620/post63886609#post63886609
Thanks.
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Is it possible to tweak Android TV to appear as another brand?
I started wondering about this when I realized that Netflix isn't available for some brands.
I know it works on Nvidia Shield.
Is it possible to make an Android TV product appear as an Nvidia Shield?
Something tells me it’s probably going off more than just brand, such as hardware requirements and safetynet and drm status. You might want to google how to install Netflix on a rooted device, because Netflix is probably treating your device as somehow unofficial like it does with rooted ones. You basically just have to install a certain version of Netflix that allows it. I recommend the websites apkpure or apk mirror for safe app downloads outside the Play Store and just side loading them onto your Android TV with an sd card / cable / Bluetooth etc.