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[Q] Groupon lying about the Nexus 7 price?

http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-google-nexus-7-refurbished
Can anyone here remember the Nexus 7 being listed at $260?
How about the 16GB version? It's list is now $199. It was $249 at launch, but not now.

List price is what the manufacturer suggests it should sell for and often has no relation to what it actually sells for. Kind of like the difference between retail price and street price. Sellers often use List price for comparison because it makes their deal look better even though smart people know it never really sold at that price. This groupon deal is bogus. Why would anyone pay $10 less than current selling price just to get a refurbished model with a shorter warranty (most are only 90 days instead of 1 year)? Only an idiot would look twice at that offer.

Groupon is a bunch of liars.
It never listed for $260, certainly not a refurbished model.
I often see their "deals" as sounding much better than what is actually the truth. Every so often when I see some heavily discounted product, I look up how much other sites are selling for. Nine times out of ten, you can buy the exact same thing for LESS than the Groupon price at a name brand retailer.
But in this case, the MSRP claim here is a flat out lie. It was $249 at launch, and is now $199. And just because the MSRP *was* $249 months ago doesn't mean it still is.

Nexus 4 : Good prices ?

Hey guys ! I wanted lately to buy a used in good shape N4 , i find it to be a bit overpriced on ebay and amazon compared to the play store price (price is 50 bucks more) , and since in my country the play store doesnt exist i can only buy it from amazon and ebay !
So what do you think is a good price for it ?? im searching for a 16gb model , i think 8gb is not enough or is it ??
Thanks in advance

yes you are right, the reason your find them on ebay and amazon priced higher is probably becasue the seller will ship internationally, and is still cheaper then buying in their home country, or for what ever reason google does not sell in that country, OR the seller is counting on buyers who have a amazon store card or billmelater with paypal, and can finance it without having to get a real credit card, there are tons of reasons, those are the only ones i can think of now.
also i wouldnt pay more then $300 for a used 16gb nexus 4, i mean, for 50 bucks more you can get a new one, with a warranty!
since the nexus 4 is so different then its competitors and undercut them all in terms in price, it makes it an unprecedented popular "affordable" smart phone, with unprecedented pricing by 3rd parties. solid design and great phone, but a "cheap" device in terms of specs when compared to the S3 which is selling used for $300 right now.
even though it might be more difficult then normal to find, keep looking, as its the internet... and the 16gb models should be better priced then the 8gb's from what i've seen.
i had a 8gb nexus that i lost in the back of a taxi, it was a steller phone, though 8gb is not enough. though i did start to use streaming services like plex for video, and subsonic media server for my music and everything worked fine with internet, and could sync if i knew i would be without.
hope this helps
k

Have you tried Swappa? Some people will ship internationally. I just bought a Nexus 4 with accessories for $330. I know some people will say that's more than it should be, but it's basically brand new. If I ordered on Play between shipping and taxes I would've paid at least $50 more. I'll pocket the $50 for a phone that looks brand new.
Good luck.
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kpholmes said:
but a "cheap" device in terms of specs when compared to the S3
k
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How is it a cheap device in terms of specs?

kpholmes said:
yes you are right, the reason your find them on ebay and amazon priced higher is probably becasue the seller will ship internationally, and is still cheaper then buying in their home country, or for what ever reason google does not sell in that country, OR the seller is counting on buyers who have a amazon store card or billmelater with paypal, and can finance it without having to get a real credit card, there are tons of reasons, those are the only ones i can think of now.
also i wouldnt pay more then $300 for a used 16gb nexus 4, i mean, for 50 bucks more you can get a new one, with a warranty!
since the nexus 4 is so different then its competitors and undercut them all in terms in price, it makes it an unprecedented popular "affordable" smart phone, with unprecedented pricing by 3rd parties. solid design and great phone, but a "cheap" device in terms of specs when compared to the S3 which is selling used for $300 right now.
even though it might be more difficult then normal to find, keep looking, as its the internet... and the 16gb models should be better priced then the 8gb's from what i've seen.
i had a 8gb nexus that i lost in the back of a taxi, it was a steller phone, though 8gb is not enough. though i did start to use streaming services like plex for video, and subsonic media server for my music and everything worked fine with internet, and could sync if i knew i would be without.
hope this helps
k
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Thanks mate ! I' ll keep searching
npiper05 said:
Have you tried Swappa? Some people will ship internationally. I just bought a Nexus 4 with accessories for $330. I know some people will say that's more than it should be, but it's basically brand new. If I ordered on Play between shipping and taxes I would've paid at least $50 more. I'll pocket the $50 for a phone that looks brand new.
Good luck.
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Thanks . well you are lucky . I'll try swappa as well
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Unfortunately no luck on swappa there is no seller that ships to the EU !
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UK pricing - going up, not down!

Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre

andrewilley said:
Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre
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When I saw the UK prices, it really baulked me.
I wanted a tablet that not only worked on Wi-Fi, but 3G, 4G/LTE, but I couldn't get one, especially a 32Gb model, which I consider to be the basement model (I wouldn't even consider a 16Gb).
I nearly paid the extra for an Ipad, however I decided to do more research and in the end I imported one from HK and even when I paid the VAT on it, it came in significantly cheaper than some of the prices of the 16Gb, Wi-Fi model.
It's worth doing a little extra research and importing it yourself and get a better specified machine, at a lower price.

I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
Andre

andrewilley said:
I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
Andre
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Why buy a 16Gb one? You can get the 32Gb version quite easily over there, but the currency conversion made it more expensive to buy it from the US, also I used PayPal to pay for it, so I had a bit of protection too.
My SM-P605 has a 64Gb card in and I'm already running low on memory, so I only hope that the new SanDisk 128Gb card comes out soon at a reasonable price.

I think a few places had them on offer just before and after christmas. Got mine from John Lewis for £399 in mid jan, took ages to find somewhere with one in stock at that price. There were quite a few places charging (or trying to) over £500! I think about £450 was the average book price but so many places were out of stock, or were trying to sell the old one still at £399........

They want to sell the new Tab 10.1 at such a high price, that they had to raise that of the note, to keep people from going straight for a note instead.

Let's be honest. Samsung charging iPad+ prices for the Pro/Note series takes balls of steel. Android tablets are bought typically by bargain seekers unwilling to pay iPad prices and are typically 7-8" and under $250. One thing iPads have always provided was a certain cache and snob appeal; everyone knows what everyone else paid. With the Pro/Note's Samsung seems to be raising the snob appeal. With the 16GB iPad Air at 399 GBP whether Samsung prices at 375 GBP or 425 GBP it's still close enough that if people really considered a high-end Android tablet as an iPad alternative they'd still buy it. I don't think someone predisposed to an iPad would say "I'll buy the Samsung Tab|Pro because I'll save 50 GBP." How many people think a high-end Android tablet is an iPad alternative is a whole different discussion and will be proven by the success (or failure) of Samsung's strategy in offering the Pro/Note series in the first place.
The G-Tab 4 certainly is a step down in design and specs so perhaps Samsung's strategy is to make the 4's their volume seller (EG: BMW 3-series) and the Pro/Note's their margin leader (EG: BMW 7-series).
Apparently the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 will pack a 10.6″ (odd, right?) display of 1280×800 pixels resolution and will run on Snapdragon 400 chipset with a quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex-A7 processor, Adreno 305 GPU and 1.5GB of RAM. Other revealed specs are the 3MP rear and the 1.2MP front camera, 16GB internal storage (12GB actually available) and the latest Android 4.4.2 KitKat OS. Digging into the GFX Benchmark database you can also find the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It has absolutely the same specs but less screen estate.​

I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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andythilo said:
I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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And gave up your 2 year UK warranty in the process. Or you can ship it round trip to HK at your expense to have warranty repairs done there. Does Samsung UK even service grey market devices for a fee? Samsung U.S. won't. I had to ship my UK-purchased i9100 back to the UK for a cracked bezel. Caveat Emptor.

The guy I bought it from is a dealer. He will sort any warranty issues and is in the UK. I spoke to him before I bought it.
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The guy I bought it from is a dealer.
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Well as long as you know a guy, you won't need Samsung's 2-year support then.
Andre

You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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Got mine from HK too. Not rooted yet but soon will and once it's 0x1 the difficulty of a warranty claim becomes irrelavent.
It cost me £439 inc. import duty.

Got a bill from FedEx . Contacted the seller and he's refunded me already! What a quality seller!
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Possible to order this tablet from US to India?

I am still interested in this tablet but the price in India is completely ridiculous, around 47000 (almost $800) for the 32 GB 3G version. I thought Samsung might lower it over time but the price hasn't budged in 9 months.
I am interested in the 16GB Wifi version which seems to be available for around $350 refurbished on Amazon. I was wondering if any Indian posters have ordered it through them and what the final price is after shipping, taxes etc.

Online / store price the best that I have seen is INR 45,500...
But I agree on both counts
1. Price has certainly proved resistant to lowering
2. Its expensive (currently picked up an ipad air 16 gb for 36k at amazon india)
Have not ordered this from US as I will prefer to buy it local because
1. Warranty and repair service - god forbid something goes wrong with the tablet, doubt samsung would honor the warranty of another country and am not confident on the situation of parts and all for a model not sold here locally...service in India stinks!
2. Custom duties - we have some crazy custom duties typicall plus add the cost of shipping and chances are whatever savings in the price you get will be nullified by the cost of having it delivered in your hands.
Me, even if I could accept the second.l, cannot accept the first as I don't want to end up with an expensive paper weight.
Purely my own thoughts, yours may of course vary.
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I agree with your points which is why I wondered if anyone had any personal experience of ordering from India especially with respect to point 2. If the savings are sufficient I would be prepared to risk the lack of warranty.
Samsung has really missed the boat with pricing on this tablet. They could have easily launched the 16GB wifi version for 35. And it's baffling that they have refused to reduce the price. The Note 3 which was released at the same time is now 38 and the GS5 which was released 6 months later is 35. Hopefully once they launch the newer version, the price on the 2014 will drop sharply.

i just received mine yesterday. i bought it via amazon.
It was used( open box Like new). And really is just new unit. But there is little bump on back side near samsung logo.( I searched on google and many new unit also have same issue. and anyway its not noticable.)
Price was $387 (including fast shipping in 2-5 days).It converted into 24263 inr (always place order in USD).
It shipped via fedex. custom duty is little less than 15%.+ fedex fees and service tax. Totally i paid 4268 inr as duty.
Its super easy just make everything clear with seller.
I hope it helps you.

Thanks. So it works out to around 29000. I have to say that's quite tempting even given the warranty issues.

Yeah that's the reason i got one.

Priv Price Revealed (It's not good news)

Carphone Warehouse are now taking pre-orders for the Blackberry Priv,
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/phones/blackberry-priv
The bad news? £580 sim-free. (That's the equivalent of about $900 US)
If you ask me, Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market. At minimum it's £100 overpriced in order to be competitive, especially when compared to something like the Nexus 6P. The maximum price for this should have been £450, and even then it would be a major uphill struggle to shift 5 million units.
I was so excited for this phone, but at that price I think my money would be better spent on a 6P.

I was waiting for this phone as the only option for Android, HW keyboard and decent specs.... but at this price I don't think it makes much sense. Heck even the corporate procurement officers will scratch their heads with such a price, even if the security is top notch. Common BB, get serious!

Settle down, guys. That's the European price and most likely includes VAT. Electronics are also more expensive in Europe. It'll most likely be $599 or $649 here.

MSRP $949 in Canada.

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Carphone Warehouse are now taking pre-orders for the Blackberry Priv,
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/phones/blackberry-priv
The bad news? £580 sim-free. (That's the equivalent of about $900 US)
If you ask me, Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market. At minimum it's £100 overpriced in order to be competitive, especially when compared to something like the Nexus 6P. The maximum price for this should have been £450, and even then it would be a major uphill struggle to shift 5 million units.
I was so excited for this phone, but at that price I think my money would be better spent on a 6P.
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Expensive but I'm still getting one!
I need my physical keyboard back

I would think that depreciation value of this phone would be quite high due to BlackBerry current circumstances and market share. However I could be wrong, it could hold it's value because of being a niche product. If it's a hit then I could see them holding the same price for at least a year or more but if it's not then it might see the Amazon Fire phone slash and burn price method.

mobilesyrup article puts pricing at $799 CAN which puts a US price at more like $599

Apparently it was momentarily priced for $749 USD.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/21/blackberry-priv-pre-orders-open-in-us-for-749-ship-november-16/

I'm wondering how much of that is actually BlackBerry and how much is CarphoneWarehouse. It wouldn't be the first time a device has been unpopular simply because of how and where it was marketed.
Preorder pricing has always been a little "stab in the dark" as far as I'm concerned, the only thing we can really do is wait. I'm really hoping the competition between retailers drives the price to a slightly saner number but I'm not holding my breath.
The Priv looks like an amazing device but £580 is a little rich for my blood.

I think it will probably similar priced as the galaxy S6+, perhaps slightly more.

This is first android edition from BlackBerry
after a while
the price will reduce like other phones
I got my BlackBerry z30 with price of 19000 INR
when it hav price about 290000 INR
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29000 INR

$699 US. http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-priv/buy.html

I'll be getting one. My caveat is I'm on T-Mo USA and need to wait for the wifi-calling compatible version.

I thought I read somewhere that it was going to be about $650-700 in the US.
EDIT: http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/23/blackberry-priv-pre-order-price/

899 CAD in Canada, which is a bit high for my taste. Not BlackBerry's fault though, would've been 799 where I would've bought it.
Although Rogers is doing 399/2yr or 799 outright.

ToniCipriani said:
899 CAD in Canada, which is a bit high for my taste. Not BlackBerry's fault though, would've been 799 where I would've bought it.
Although Rogers is doing 399/2yr or 799 outright.
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Buying outright from Rogers and unlocking is cheaper in any case.

blackberry always overprices its devices, mostly people buy it to use it as a STATUS SYMBOL

Not necessarily. Passport was $699 at launch, still the same price for full off contract at Rogers, and you have to pay to unlock it. Bell and Telus both selling it for $750.
Canada works a bit backwards in this regard.

I was gonna get it until the price was revealed. I decided to go with the G4 and im glad i made the decision
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I can't even remember the last time BB was a status symbol, at least in the US or Europe, however this is the first 'unique' Android phone in years, so you never know. I'm going to resist buying it as long as possible b/c the price will definitely drop on contract, but I don't know how long I'll be able to wait.