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Will prices drop?

Hey guys I'm new here. Joined because I am getting a Leo - except I don't know when. Do you think the price will drop in the next 2-3mths? The cheapest now is $799 and I'm pretty sure Canadians won't be getting this from the cell providers anytime soon.
How does HTC's pricing behave after the launch? Thanks

It's all about supply and demand... a few shops have put the price up do to demand!
It might be a while before the price goes down.

Of course they will drop ... the question is: when?
But I don't think we will see huge price drops like with older/other HTC phones, since the touch HD was quite stable for a long time, and the hd2 is even more hyped than the touch HD was.
Maybe 500-550€ in Q1/2010, don't think much less than that.

yea, but in 2-3 months its almost q1 2010 which equals a US hd2 version.. of course the price will go down, the question is how much...
in 2-3 months I'd say $599-699, depending on the masses and on the other telephone manufacturers

As long as there is no other so cool and powerful stuff, price will be quite stable I think.
In fact, HD2 is not that expensive for this quality and power

It's only 513 euros over here in the Netherlands, so I suppose that the price will drop indeed.
You'll have to wait before it becomes widely available first though.

peeh!!! here in sweden its like 600+ euros, and it won't arrive until 30th november
lucky people, enjoy!

The starting price for HD2 is not that high compare to the previous HTC high end phones. So, the price drop down margin is not that big. Also, they wouldn't want HD2 to stop old handset's sell.

where have you seen it for 799 in Canada? The cheapest i could find is like 950.

Price drop?
I bought my HD from Clove tech uk for AU$850 and the going price with telstra was $1500. Sure, Telstra dropped their price, but not to $850.
Sure, you can see HD's for less now, but too late. It's now old stock and who wants it.
In effect the price does not go down, it just depends where you buy it.
I recommend Clove. I have bought 3 phones from them. Price was competitive but no bull**** like from expansys or like, who take your money then you wait 3-4 weeks, even though it said 'in stock' on the website.

LOL @ Verizon pricing it at $599

Price
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=201135

hefty.
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@andrej pozdrav
I will buy one ASAP.

Why? Tablets aren't ergonomic. It's just some dodgy fad. You are MUCH better off with a netbook which is a convertable, because you can't use a tablet much except watching movies..
Whereas, a netbook convertable, you can use it as a tablet, and as a laptop.

I have like 3x netbook + 2xnotebook and just need this like 'big phone' xD

Better not be that much when it comes to NA. If it's anywhere near the price of the iPad, it wont sell. Too bad, I had high hopes.

I can't complain on price just wonder why:
- there is no AMOLED Screen
- no bigger battery ...
- no faster processor like 1.2 or something.
- WiMAX - 802.16e on 2.5 and 3.5 Ghz?
...

800 EUR is only the recommended price by the manufactor. Those are allways way of regarding to phone manufactors. The Galaxy S for example as a recommended price of 649 EUR buts sells for 450 EUR since it's start.

expansys always jack up their prices
they always charge like 200 more over other places

Don't forget that price includes exspansys tax. I'm guessing on a street price more in the lines of Euro 600.

550 pounds (USD 846, euro 660) from clove on pre order..
I think the price is too steep and it is a real pity that it doesn't have an samloed screen.
I think I will wait for the 2nd generation next on this one.....

this thing is waaaay too expensive.
I was expecting about 350-400 euros.
I'm not an apple-fanboy but it should definitely be cheaper than the ipad.
Despite the fact you can call with it, it shouldn't be more expensive then the galaxy s... The thing is bigger, no Amoled screen...it should be cheaper in production.
This thing is never gonna sell if it realy will cost bout 700 euro, never.
People won't use this as a phone and if it costs 700 euro, i would buy an ipad

u guys can find the actual price here
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-reported-to-retail-at-699-and-799-in-europe/

Expansys always have prices like £100/£200 over what they actually are. They just want to be seen as the first to offer it. I bet this will be >£400.

zgmf-x322a said:
u guys can find the actual price here
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-reported-to-retail-at-699-and-799-in-europe/
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Well actually you can't. It seems samsung havent released the pricing yet or at least confirmed it. So all these shops are guessing. Reading clove more carefully even their price of 550 pounds has a notice saying that the pricing is yet to be confirmed.
Maybe there is hope the prices might come down

It's going to be interesting to see exactly where this ends up being priced as I think that is what is going to make or break this device.

For me ipad will be the benchmark for price. At least 30% cheaper for tab to make it worth while.
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Cut that price in half Samsung!

Update: So we're hearing some conflicting information here. Samsung itself is telling us at IFA that no pricing has been announced and that any prices floating around are speculation -- but it seems the company has already announced a suggested retail prices of SEK 9,000 in Sweden including VAT, which works out to about $1,240 (or $930 without VAT). In other words, even after taxes have been removed from the equation, you're looking at a pretty pricey option for an unsubsidized device here. Let's hope we see some steep discounts on contract, eh?
Looks like suggested retail price is 1000euro ? 800euro looks like that will be price for this samsung tab.

Samsung Galaxy Tab Over 1000USD would you buy it?
The price and the spec of the galaxy tab is already out. You are expecting to be paying about £680 in UK for a 16GB Tab (around USD$1,050).
Are you interested in buying the galaxy tab?
How do you feel about this price point?
How well will it compete with Apple IPAD that is quite a bit cheaper?

UK Xoom pricing

Seems expensive http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/motorola-xoom-price-revealed-already-zooming-skywards-50002167/
Was pretty keen on getting one until I saw this. Surely they should be pricing it to be competitive with other tablets out there.
Also, anyone know anything about what the launch date will be in the UK?

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Seems expensive http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/motorola-xoom-price-revealed-already-zooming-skywards-50002167/
Was pretty keen on getting one until I saw this. Surely they should be pricing it to be competitive with other tablets out there.
Also, anyone know anything about what the launch date will be in the UK?
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Wow that is ridiculously high. If thats a final price they most certainly wont sell crap. Not only will Apple own them but also the Playbook. I was planning to buy this tablet but now im concerned about the pricing. They need to sell this tablet at a reasonable price of $400-$600 dollars. However, I doubt this will be how much it costs. It mostly likely will go down. Wayyyy down.

Here here.
Looks like a great device, but they can't be serious about that pricing?
£500 max, absolute max. Just because the iPad is overpriced, doesn't mean Moto can get away with outpricing the overpriced.
Would be a tragedy for such a good device to fail or sell poorly purely due to pricing.

Most of us did not count in the price of the accessories yet… I think we need at least a standard dock which will cost us approximate another US100.
I wont pay more than USD1k for a tablet that does not support SD card, it is too far away from the budget for a tablet. I will focus my attention to the alternative android 3.0 tablets from Asus & Acer which will costs us approximate $400-$700.

I hate those webshops that try to profit from early adopters..

Wait....is this wifi only version or have 3G???

Richie P said:
Here here.
Looks like a great device, but they can't be serious about that pricing?
£500 max, absolute max. Just because the iPad is overpriced, doesn't mean Moto can get away with outpricing the overpriced.
Would be a tragedy for such a good device to fail or sell poorly purely due to pricing.
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The rumor is that the iPad 2 will be cheaper than the original. If the prices I'm seeing on this are true, and the rumors hold for iPad 2 there is no way I can drop that kind of coin on a Xoom.

TaIz82 said:
Wait....is this wifi only version or have 3G???
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I haven't heard of a wifi only version for Europe. The information available is very vague though.

I don't think we should worry about these pricing rumours. The Nexus S was overpriced for a week before release and the Galaxy Tab was overpriced in the weeks/months before release too. These are almost certainly just guesses, we don't even know if there is an option for carrier subsidy, Wi-Fi only, etc yet

chewlee78 said:
Most of us did not count in the price of the accessories yet… I think we need at least a standard dock which will cost us approximate another US100.
I wont pay more than USD1k for a tablet that does not support SD card, it is too far away from the budget for a tablet. I will focus my attention to the alternative android 3.0 tablets from Asus & Acer which will costs us approximate $400-$700.
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It says that SD is supported after a "software update" on Motorola's official spec sheet.
Does this mean it won't support it out of the box???

robbiev80 said:
It says that SD is supported after a "software update" on Motorola's official spec sheet.
Does this mean it won't support it out of the box???
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No. They wanted to release it early, so they are going to add SD support and enable the LTE bands on the data model.

robbiev80 said:
It says that SD is supported after a "software update" on Motorola's official spec sheet.
Does this mean it won't support it out of the box???
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My past experience with android device told me not to trust any update/upgrade promise from the manufacturer. The update/upgrade will never come true as soon as your expectation. with this unacceptable high pricing, I wont consider it until it had supported SD card.
BTW, does Xoom support USB Host mode?

If another Android device has it I would think the Xoom would have it or easily get hacked to it.

Seems Mr Jobs was correct when he said that others could not match the pricing of the iPad.
I will go nuts if I pre-order and the price drops after a few weeks/months...

They should put it on contract £25 a month would be cool.then everyone could get one
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I'm not sure why everybody is going nuts because some "eXpensive" retailer has put a random pre-order price on their website.
Facts:
- Samsung Galaxy S pre-order on "eXpensive" website was €799,- (waaay overpriced)
- "eXpensive" already replaced their Xoom price with "Price Not Known"
- I've seen pre-order prices for Xoom as high as $1023,-
Chill everybody... just wait for Motorola to give us the official price point. Any day now.
I don't think that Motorola will make the same mistake as Samsung did with their Tab.
As for the iPad fans: I seriously doubt that the iPad2 will be cheaper then the current iPad. Expect the current iPad to drop in price, and better hope (for your sake) that the iPad2 price is equal but not higher then the iPad is today.

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As for the iPad fans: I seriously doubt that the iPad2 will be cheaper then the current iPad. Expect the current iPad to drop in price, and better hope (for your sake) that the iPad2 price is equal but not higher then the iPad is today.
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I only quote this from my brother in law. He works for an Apple Authorized reseller. I forgot the TIFWIW tags in my initial comments on that.

Looks like an 800$ US is a minimum...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motorola-xoom-priced-at-800-at-a-minimum-according-to-verizon/

Ok, before you all get your panties in a bunch. This WILL NOT be the pricing of the Xoom when it launches and I will give my left arm for that.
Can any of you remember back a couple months back before the Galaxy Tab launched in the UK? Prices were being quoted in the range of £650 and like a week after it launched you could get it for damn nearly half that.
It's these stupid sites like eXpansys and the like that jack up the pre-release prices before any actual prices have been announced.
At MAX it may start off at £599 on some sites then then sharply come down to between £450-550....that's my opinion but like they say 'opinions are like @ssholes, everybody's got them...'

culac said:
Seems expensive http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/motorola-xoom-price-revealed-already-zooming-skywards-50002167/
Was pretty keen on getting one until I saw this. Surely they should be pricing it to be competitive with other tablets out there.
Also, anyone know anything about what the launch date will be in the UK?
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Just don't buy one on the day of release, the thing about android is that the prices drop faster than Bode Miller on a downhill run
Wait a month a pick one up for £475.

[Q] Groupon lying about the Nexus 7 price?

http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-google-nexus-7-refurbished
Can anyone here remember the Nexus 7 being listed at $260?
How about the 16GB version? It's list is now $199. It was $249 at launch, but not now.

List price is what the manufacturer suggests it should sell for and often has no relation to what it actually sells for. Kind of like the difference between retail price and street price. Sellers often use List price for comparison because it makes their deal look better even though smart people know it never really sold at that price. This groupon deal is bogus. Why would anyone pay $10 less than current selling price just to get a refurbished model with a shorter warranty (most are only 90 days instead of 1 year)? Only an idiot would look twice at that offer.

Groupon is a bunch of liars.
It never listed for $260, certainly not a refurbished model.
I often see their "deals" as sounding much better than what is actually the truth. Every so often when I see some heavily discounted product, I look up how much other sites are selling for. Nine times out of ten, you can buy the exact same thing for LESS than the Groupon price at a name brand retailer.
But in this case, the MSRP claim here is a flat out lie. It was $249 at launch, and is now $199. And just because the MSRP *was* $249 months ago doesn't mean it still is.

UK pricing - going up, not down!

Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre

andrewilley said:
Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre
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When I saw the UK prices, it really baulked me.
I wanted a tablet that not only worked on Wi-Fi, but 3G, 4G/LTE, but I couldn't get one, especially a 32Gb model, which I consider to be the basement model (I wouldn't even consider a 16Gb).
I nearly paid the extra for an Ipad, however I decided to do more research and in the end I imported one from HK and even when I paid the VAT on it, it came in significantly cheaper than some of the prices of the 16Gb, Wi-Fi model.
It's worth doing a little extra research and importing it yourself and get a better specified machine, at a lower price.

I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
Andre

andrewilley said:
I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
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Why buy a 16Gb one? You can get the 32Gb version quite easily over there, but the currency conversion made it more expensive to buy it from the US, also I used PayPal to pay for it, so I had a bit of protection too.
My SM-P605 has a 64Gb card in and I'm already running low on memory, so I only hope that the new SanDisk 128Gb card comes out soon at a reasonable price.

I think a few places had them on offer just before and after christmas. Got mine from John Lewis for £399 in mid jan, took ages to find somewhere with one in stock at that price. There were quite a few places charging (or trying to) over £500! I think about £450 was the average book price but so many places were out of stock, or were trying to sell the old one still at £399........

They want to sell the new Tab 10.1 at such a high price, that they had to raise that of the note, to keep people from going straight for a note instead.

Let's be honest. Samsung charging iPad+ prices for the Pro/Note series takes balls of steel. Android tablets are bought typically by bargain seekers unwilling to pay iPad prices and are typically 7-8" and under $250. One thing iPads have always provided was a certain cache and snob appeal; everyone knows what everyone else paid. With the Pro/Note's Samsung seems to be raising the snob appeal. With the 16GB iPad Air at 399 GBP whether Samsung prices at 375 GBP or 425 GBP it's still close enough that if people really considered a high-end Android tablet as an iPad alternative they'd still buy it. I don't think someone predisposed to an iPad would say "I'll buy the Samsung Tab|Pro because I'll save 50 GBP." How many people think a high-end Android tablet is an iPad alternative is a whole different discussion and will be proven by the success (or failure) of Samsung's strategy in offering the Pro/Note series in the first place.
The G-Tab 4 certainly is a step down in design and specs so perhaps Samsung's strategy is to make the 4's their volume seller (EG: BMW 3-series) and the Pro/Note's their margin leader (EG: BMW 7-series).
Apparently the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 will pack a 10.6″ (odd, right?) display of 1280×800 pixels resolution and will run on Snapdragon 400 chipset with a quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex-A7 processor, Adreno 305 GPU and 1.5GB of RAM. Other revealed specs are the 3MP rear and the 1.2MP front camera, 16GB internal storage (12GB actually available) and the latest Android 4.4.2 KitKat OS. Digging into the GFX Benchmark database you can also find the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It has absolutely the same specs but less screen estate.​

I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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andythilo said:
I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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And gave up your 2 year UK warranty in the process. Or you can ship it round trip to HK at your expense to have warranty repairs done there. Does Samsung UK even service grey market devices for a fee? Samsung U.S. won't. I had to ship my UK-purchased i9100 back to the UK for a cracked bezel. Caveat Emptor.

The guy I bought it from is a dealer. He will sort any warranty issues and is in the UK. I spoke to him before I bought it.
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andythilo said:
The guy I bought it from is a dealer.
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Well as long as you know a guy, you won't need Samsung's 2-year support then.
Andre

You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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Got mine from HK too. Not rooted yet but soon will and once it's 0x1 the difficulty of a warranty claim becomes irrelavent.
It cost me £439 inc. import duty.

Got a bill from FedEx . Contacted the seller and he's refunded me already! What a quality seller!
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