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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Depending on the web page, it doesn't scroll as smoothly as an iPad if thats what you were hoping for. But this is the case I find with most android devices. Although, it has been reported that rooting the device and turning off, some of the Samsung Bloatware such as Knox applications, improves it significantly. I personally won't do that because I do like some of the samsung apps and don't want to mess up the tablet's S-Pen functionality, even though the rooting supposedly doesn't mess with that.
A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
noctisk said:
A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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My device is the wifi version. Yet still horrible choppiness, stuttering, lagging when I scroll. It is starting to feel like a game breaker to me which would be ashame because the S pen feature is the most wonderfully polished feature ever. I'm a student of course though.
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Depending on the web page, it doesn't scroll as smoothly as an iPad if thats what you were hoping for. But this is the case I find with most android devices. Although, it has been reported that rooting the device and turning off, some of the Samsung Bloatware such as Knox applications, improves it significantly. I personally won't do that because I do like some of the samsung apps and don't want to mess up the tablet's S-Pen functionality, even though the rooting supposedly doesn't mess with that.
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I find it really curious though that with 3 gigs of ram and the type of processor this device has that it shouldn't be running as smoothly as the ipad. I mean spec wise this thing is a monster. Is it just bad software optimization? I'm also afraid of rooting because I've never done it and the term is pretty new to me. I know I'm a noob
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I find it really curious though that with 3 gigs of ram and the type of processor this device has that it shouldn't be running as smoothly as the ipad. I mean spec wise this thing is a monster. Is it just bad software optimization? I'm also afraid of rooting because I've never done it and the term is pretty new to me. I know I'm a noob
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im also scared of rooting.
pretty bad when you have to do something drastic and invalidate your warranty on a £450 tablet just to get it to work properly...
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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I've used puffin, chrome, and stock. In fact, the stock browser has the least issue. Also, has anyone noticed that youtube videos that say HD don't look very good. Sorry, it's my first time with a tablet.
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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Actually seems like Samsung have nipped that in the bud by saying the wont be doing that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...Exynos-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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Where did you get the flash from..adobe's site says that flash isn't supported anymore since on all devices after july 15th i believe. if you could provide that link it would be great..thx
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I've used puffin, chrome, and stock. In fact, the stock browser has the least issue. Also, has anyone noticed that youtube videos that say HD don't look very good. Sorry, it's my first time with a tablet.
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To be honest, I believe this might be an issue with youtube. I noticed on my note 2014 that I'm only able to play 720p youtube videos. I've tried Tubemate as well as other 3rd party youtube apps that allow you to download videos and I never get any options above 720p quality. Why google/youtube would impose this restriction I have no idea.
The problem with this is that on a tablet with 2560x1600 resolution, content shot at 1280x720 resolution can look less than impressive. However, when you get a hold of quality 1080p content the screen is downright amazing.
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Where did you get the flash from..adobe's site says that flash isn't supported anymore since on all devices after july 15th i believe. if you could provide that link it would be great..thx
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Actually seems like Samsung have nipped that in the bud by saying the wont be doing that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...Exynos-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
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I already think this tablet gets way too hot for doing normal stuff. I'm not touching octa even if somebody figures out how to hack it. It would probably melt my precious plastic leather.
I'll patiently wait for Samsung to optimize the software. I know this hardware is capable enough, damn it. It's a freaking pull down. That can't be that intensive as to bring a 1.9GHz quadcore to its knees unless somebody coded it wrong.
I think performance is decent enough for this tablet without the octa patch. That is once you tinker with it and optimize everything. My rooted, customized galaxy s3 runs smoother than the beast of a note sometimes. But anyway, that's the fun part.
As for lag or stutter, I do get it, but I think after rooting and cleaning up Samsung's touchwiz, it will get much better.
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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It wouldn't make it faster anyways....it would just increase battery life as the four cores that become available to you when you need high performance and have high cpu load is the slow, low speed, but power efficient chips. This is with the rumored patch of course. If you already have the a15 based chips all on and ruining at max freq then you will get nothing g, or next to nothing, from turning on 4 lower power ones.
It would be like driving a Ferrari 150mph down a race track and saying you are going to give yourself a speed boost by pushing with your feet....just ain't gonna happen
But in the case of the exynos, you will at least have the option of saving fuel (battery power) by pushing with your feet (using the low power cores) so it would be nice, but it's also been stated by mire than a few people, not sure how reliable these sources are but it's been said by mire than a couple sources, that there will be no patch for the note 3 or the note 10.1 2014 as this functionality will be savedfor a next generation device. Sad but also makes a little sense as these current devices are already basically top of the line and best I'm class, or at least right up there, as far as hardware specs go. Software may not be considered top notch by all but that isn't the point here as if these devices were patched or the functionality was released on the next generation, they both will still come with touch wiz software and thus the software part of it is a moot point. The point is, with or without this functionality, the people who would want to buy it are not concerned about it having touchwiz and thus they are getting the top end device either way. Why would Samsung push this generation device that much farther ahead when they still have a top end device and can save that "trick" for the next iteration....
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My kids might be getting it for Christmas from relatives.
Not sure yet if I should accept it or request anything else?
I don't see Tab 4 here http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Devices#vendor="Samsung";type="tablet"; So it's officially not supported?
Is it a good 10 inch choice as an all rounder at home? (light games, minecraft, youtube, growtopia, forums, browsing, music etc.)
Thanks!
b,
hi, this tab [sm-t530nu, wifi only] is pretty good at the right price.
i would say if you can get one under 260 dollars u.s. then it's a fair deal.
wifi receptivity does seem a little weak.
Development for it is active.
And i have beaten the hell out of this thing in the short time i've had it
doing development,testing and it's held up just fine.
you have on stock rom about 600 -800 mb ram available.
debloated stock about 700 1000 mb ram available depending on what stays/goes
and on sub77's slimkat rom about 900 -1200 mb ram available depending on your setup.
cf autoroot for this tab is go.
otg is go
with abuse your battery life is about a day with power saving enabled to include for wifi.
and unlike the tab 3 10.1 the screen doesn't lose sensitivity when the usb cable is plugged in.
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Thanks!!!!
tab 4 series are very good! i highly suppose you to get one!
We already have it. Perfect low price device. The only thing which concerns me much is screen resolution.
Everything else is just perfect. All games are running. I switched immediately to Nova launcher and moonshine icons (my favorite) and tablet got a nice gui.
ITS TOO LATE TO SAY THIS BUT No
You should get them a nexus or nvidia tablet
The Samsung tab 4 isn't made for games its pretty weak
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The games my kids are playing are not hardware demanding apps.
Popular casual games run just fine.
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Ah I see I just thought your kids were going to play ex(nova,modern combat) that's why I had to say something.
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I've been considering new tablets, and honestly the Shield Tablet has the features I want and I'm able to get one for $250, which seems reasonable. But I'm just wondering if it's still worth it as the it is a year old. How does it compare to newer devices?
If you're primarily going to be using it for gaming, there isn't a better tablet out there. The tablet is a steal for $250. The latest official update really makes the tablet shine and the custom rom called "Blisspop" even makes the device that much better in terms of performance. You won't regret getting one.
Well at the moment there are not many tablets that are faster (maybe even no faster) than this tablet.
Antutu scores are one of the highest even compared with the latest phones.
So speedwise it is still top notch and tablets that maybe come close you have to pay double the price for compared to a shield.
The 32Gb with Lte is unbeaten for that price.
I bought the 32GB LTE version in July, because an LTE tablet anywhere close to the Shield in terms of specs/screen etc. would have been ~$150 more.
Despite the battery recall issue, I'm satisfied with it. My (original) unit has been working perfectly and is very smooth with Lillipop 5.1 (the 3.1 OTA).
I should be receiving my replacement tomorrow, according to UPS. Presuming it doesn't have a defect, I'm looking forward to settling in. I never bothered to settle in on the old tablet (automatic actions, power saving stuff, that kind of thing) since I found out about the recall shortly after buying it, and didn't bother to fine tune it.
I recommend the tablet as an LTE device in the US, though if I didn't need the LTE connectivity probably there might be better values in wifi only (I'm not a gamer, so other tablets could meet my needs... but there are relatively few 8" LTE tablets without permanently locked bootloaders here).
Marc
The problem of the tablet is really the processor that is getting old pretty quick (don't know exactly it's true performance), but nowadays everything coming out is already being 8 cores at 2 ghz or more.
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But they are often not faster. Gpu of the shield is very fast maybe the fastest around at the moment. The SOC is still one of the fastest around and it is just on the market for 1 year so not that old.
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Where can you even buy one of these? In Canada every single place is sold out and saying they won't stock them again. The used market can't find for under $500 either.
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Where can you even buy one of these? In Canada every single place is sold out and saying they won't stock them again. The used market can't find for under $500 either.
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Checkout swappa.com
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Checkout swappa.com
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There is nothing there for it.
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There is nothing there for it.
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https://swappa.com/buy/nvidia-shield-tablet-wifi
its the non-lte, 16 gb version
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https://swappa.com/buy/nvidia-shield-tablet-wifi
its the non-lte, 16 gb version
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And there are no listings.... Useless.
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And there are no listings.... Useless.
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Its something on your end then
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Its something on your end then
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No. It's just that there are none...
There seem to be two of them for sale at that link when I go to it. One for $290, one for $320, both advertised as new (resale). Probably you're just filtering by Canadian sellers, based on your picture. Lots of folks in US won't ship outside the US, so no big deal that they aren't showing up for you.
Best of luck finding one!
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There seem to be two of them for sale at that link when I go to it. One for $290, one for $320, both advertised as new (resale). Probably you're just filtering by Canadian sellers, based on your picture. Lots of folks in US won't ship outside the US, so no big deal that they aren't showing up for you.
Best of luck finding one!
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Yeah my question was basically how to get one to Canada that's under $500. Impossible! Cheapest I've found is on eBay shipped for $530 for 16gb model no accessories.
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But they are often not faster. Gpu of the shield is very fast maybe the fastest around at the moment. The SOC is still one of the fastest around and it is just on the market for 1 year so not that old.
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The thing is that there aren't much AAA games to play in the shield, it's a good device more for the extra nvidia stuff.
I'm waiting for Borderlands 2 for a damn long time, but it never comes, and I don't even know if it runs on the device with good performance or if it's just for the Shield TV.
More impressive are some cheap windows tablets that for around 350€ can even run Battlefield 3 on low to mid.
Now with DX12 and tons of compatibility tablets might go more for windows again.
In fact I'm not liking much android, not a single game like the good old C&C Red alert 2, boot takes almost 2 times longer than my wind 10 PC, some websites stop working, multitasking is a joke since we can't even play a youtube music while doing anything else...
ps: Also in most performance tests we see other tablets ahead of Shield, so I don't think anything is actually that much optimized for it, not even most tegra games.
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My Shield Tablet LTE topped my Nexus 9's scores on Antutu plus the Shield gaming is great to have. Let's not forget about the SD slot and the mini HDMI port on top either. This tablet still destroys everything else (even most phones) a year later. I really mine because it has a stylus and no dumb Samsung home button like their Tablet S/S2 does. Its hard to find a good tablet these days yet the Shield holds its ground and doesn't seem to lose any performance over time. I like playing Half Life 2 on it or DOOM 3 especially when I travel. Its nice to have a tablet which can play nice games too even though that's not its primary purpose for me.
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The thing is that there aren't much AAA games to play in the shield, it's a good device more for the extra nvidia stuff.
I'm waiting for Borderlands 2 for a damn long time, but it never comes, and I don't even know if it runs on the device with good performance or if it's just for the Shield TV.
More impressive are some cheap windows tablets that for around 350â?¬ can even run Battlefield 3 on low to mid.
Now with DX12 and tons of compatibility tablets might go more for windows again.
In fact I'm not liking much android, not a single game like the good old C&C Red alert 2, boot takes almost 2 times longer than my wind 10 PC, some websites stop working, multitasking is a joke since we can't even play a youtube music while doing anything else...
ps: Also in most performance tests we see other tablets ahead of Shield, so I don't think anything is actually that much optimized for it, not even most tegra games.
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Those cheap windows tablets also use Intel chips in most cases plus Windows an as OS handles things differently than Android does. I agree that there aren't many great games but the ones they do have are fun in my opinion. I have the Shield TV as well and I play all kinds of games including emulators without any issues. My i7 Samsung Ultra book probably can't handle some of the games the Shield can then again I haven't tried. I'm not a big PC gamer but I do know the GPU isn't that great in most Windows tablets/ultrabooks. Android M fixes a lot of the productivity issues and adds multi window and I'm sure Nvidia is working on it now anyway. They tend to lush updates out promptly in most cases unless there's a big issue.
I haven't seen another tablet have better gaming performance than he Shield or Nexus 9 since hwy share a GPU yet use different CPU's. My Nexus 6's SD805 doesn't come close to he 3D score that the tablet does but on Marshmallow it does get a nice ~1500 pt boost likely from the optimization in it. I can imagine the same will occur in the Shield Tablet but we won't know until Nvidia releases it.
I'm not saying the Shield is the best fit everyone but it is a great tablet if you are in the market for a LTE enabled 8in tablet thats fast, runs near stock Android and has nice games for it.
Most of those BEST Nvidia Shield games coming soon are old and I finished them already. (RES5, Half Life, Borderlands, Doom...).
The thing is, you get a good device, but you will probably end playing most games that your phone already can play maxed out.
Other thing is Nvidia blahblahblah says it's more powerful than a X360 GPU, but then most games have a little lag and nothing, but really nothing made to the android yet comes close to most X360\PS3 gameplay\physics (they just look good, but plays like crap).
Then it's my 4th Nvidia shield all are defective and the last one needs to go to RMA again.
I never had an android device, so I wanted to try it, with my experience is just a god damn bugged SO worst than windows.
Also I got sad with the strategy games and how nothing on the android thousand of games even come close to Command and Conquer Red Alert II from like 2000
My opinion:
GOOD:
- hardware Performance;
- Sound;
- has it's own wireless gamepad;
- Nvidia software + remote pc play (button mapping already in the tablet, no need to root 4 that);
- More games than other android devices;
BAD:
- Android is not really optimized;
- Not much AAA games:
- Nothing like C&C, age of empires, Skyrim........ (most games are very cheap copies of good games, but look like a 2003 game);
- In the real world, performance is not as big as nvidia make you think (best phones now probably have better performance, like Samsung S6 which is a lot more little and doesn't come close to having more than a hundred cores like this nvidia);
- Screen quality is not that awesome, it is a High resolution LCD, but nothing special besides that. It doesn't get any close to samsung phone's\tablet amoled screens;
- Battery doesn't last much either;
I actually think that something like that made for DX12 and wind 10 would probably get almost twice the performance than on the actual android OS. At least I saw some people playing BF3 on dell cheap 1 year old tablets that cost basically the same as this nvidia shield. Nowadays with DX12 and Wind 10 soon may be a new era for tablets (it seems windows based hardware have more performance per price than android devices). At least I never seen any 300€ android tablet playing anything close to a BF3 which is years ahead in gameplay + physics than any android game I ever seen\played until now.
ps: If it was today I would buy a ~350€ DELL wind tablet that can even play BF3 (guess what? No need to Root for anything as you own everything already and can update\mod everything).
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Hi,
I'd like to buy used tablet, which is going to be used mostly by my grand-parents. I found Galaxy Tab note 10.1 on listings and i thought that it would be good mostly because of S pen and big screen. It will be used for reading newspaper and some skype calls sometimes. How is it usable in 2018 with KitKat 4.2? What do you think? If this is not good, can you recommend sth. from chinese sites that costs not more than 130 USD (120 EUR).
Should be fine, based on the usage you described.
You cant even install YouTube Kids on a standard setup. I think you will have to Root and go custom. I wonder if Skype would even work
If you buy one, definitely root it and go with LOS 14.1. I use my T800 daily quite a lot.
Dont know what I would replace it with when it finally dies. (Hope not for a good long while still). The screen is still amazing, the sound quality is great and I still enjoy the device. I've been through 4 cell phones in the time i've owned the tablet. I'm not hardcore gamer, so no help on how it holds up with modern gaming. But for the limited amount of gaming I do on it, the T800 still seems to perform great.
I see that Onn Waltmart 10.1 tablet is on sale. I happen to have a different 10.1 2GB tablet (Vaykyo Z4) also running Android 9. and its disappointingly slow for routine web browsing.
The Z4 uses a 64-bit 1.5Ghz quad-core CPU (rk30board) with a Mali-G31 GPU.
Would the Onn be an improvement?
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I see that Onn Waltmart 10.1 tablet is on sale. I happen to have a different 10.1 2GB tablet (Vaykyo Z4) also running Android 9. and its disappointingly slow for routine web browsing.
The Z4 uses a 64-bit 1.5Ghz quad-core CPU (rk30board) with a Mali-G31 GPU.
Would the Onn be an improvement?
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As long as you keep in mind that it's a $100 tablet, then YES, well worth it.
I wanted a cheap 10" tablet so I first bought a Chuwi HiPad 10" LTE from Amazon that had far greater specs than the Walmart Onn tablet, but it performed really sluggishly. It had 3 GB RAM, Deca core MT6797X Helio X27 processor, yet still felt like it was being intentionally bottlenecked somehow. I disabled the very little bloat that it had but it still felt like something just wasn't right. I wanted to like it because it felt like a nice piece of hardware (for a cheap chinese product anyway), had a surprisingly beautiful high resolution screen, nice keyboard cover with a trackpad, but I couldn't get past how it performed. I returned it.
Now I have the 007 model Onn 10" tablet from Walmart. The screen is very low resolution so that kind of sucks, but the tablet overall performs as one would expect for basic web browsing and media consumption. It's not blazing fast but it's smooth enough that you don't get aggravated with it.
I rooted it easily with Magisk, installed TWRP, disabled the few Walmart apps that were preinstalled, and it performs just fine. There are occasional lags once you start to use up all the RAM, but overall it performs well for being a $100 tablet. It performs MUCH smoother than the Chuwi tablet that had supposedly better specs.
720p YouTube videos play well. 1080p play well enough, too, but the screen is so low-resolution that there's no point. Nova launcher works well. Chrome seems to do alright browsing the web. It has stereo speakers, but they are very flat. Loud, but flat. Battery life is very short compared to higher end tablets with bigger batteries.
It's no powerhouse, but it does run well for basic needs. Only time will tell if it will last longer than a year. Reviews seem hit and miss as far as overheating and battery issues go. Mine, so far, using it daily for email, web browsing, and watching videos, has never gotten even warm in the past month I've had it.
100% Yes its worth it as long as you get it on black friday when its 55 bucks. The 7 inch seems to lag and run poorly. I've had zero issues with the 10 so far. Only thing I did was make all the animations .5 in Developer Settings to make it feel snappier
For one for black friday
Did anyone else get one of these for $60 on black friday? Struggeling with a couple annoyances.
1. Can't get rid of the dang walmart link in the nav bar even after uninstalling bloatware after gaining root.
2. This is supposed to be pie but where are the gesture navigation options??
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Did anyone else get one of these for $60 on black friday? Struggeling with a couple annoyances.
1. Can't get rid of the dang walmart link in the nav bar even after uninstalling bloatware after gaining root.
2. This is supposed to be pie but where are the gesture navigation options??
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I used ADB to reset the navbar to stock.
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adb shell settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,back;home;recent,space"
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I used ADB to reset the navbar to stock.
Code:
adb shell settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,back;home;recent,space"
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I've been looking for this for like 2 days... Thank you sir!
I bought the one with the keyboard. it's now been rebranded as a Surf and has a different model number lol. Either way great price!
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I bought the one with the keyboard. it's now been rebranded as a Surf and has a different model number lol. Either way great price!
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I got 4 of the 7 inch and one 10 inch with the keyboard. 10 inch is gonna be my obd II in car monitoring tablet, the 7 inch tablets are for family members for christmas lol
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I got 4 of the 7 inch and one 10 inch with the keyboard. 10 inch is gonna be my obd II in car monitoring tablet, the 7 inch tablets are for family members for christmas lol
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UM...I might just steal that idea. I'm building my diesel truck and looking into an in dash system my monitor everything. I don't gauges everywhere. I've seen a few in dash systems but I can find other parts to blow $300 on.
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UM...I might just steal that idea. I'm building my diesel truck and looking into an in dash system my monitor everything. I don't gauges everywhere. I've seen a few in dash systems but I can find other parts to blow $300 on.
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Android being Android, I paid for Torque Pro once, ripped the apk and put it on all my devices, including my gf's phone just in case. The OBD II Bluetooth dongle I got was 3 dollars from china off the app Wish. Sure it took a month to get, but was WELL worth it.
Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I'll release a modified system.img for these devices with all this pre-installed. Idk the exact rules on "paid for APK's in ROMs" but I've done it before with the Galaxy S5, so...... eh?
I'd be into getting it if you decide to make something up. Hell I'll test for you too. I got SPFT so I ain't scared of bricks.
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I'd be into getting it if you decide to make something up. Hell I'll test for you too. I got SPFT so I ain't scared of bricks.
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I'm probably going to do it the old fashioned way of rip the system.img with TWRP Tool, edit the system.img by just adding the APK's and such, then testing it, and releasing it. It won't be a GSI, but specific to just the 7 and 10 inch tablets until I download the 8 inch image
Or I'll be lazy and just download the img lol
Update on this idea... every time I try to flash a modified system img, it takes it, but it just boots back to fastboot, so I guess I need to just do a TWRP flashable zip which ... I hate making those XD
Update 2, might be the tool i'm using? It extracts just fine, but no modifications at all, convert file system folder back to system img, still doesn't work
I started this thread to ask if the 10" would do better than the 10" Vaykyo Z4 I have with similar specs. Based on the feedback I bought the $60 model, and I'm very pleased! It's incredibly more responsive. Web pages are fast and pinch zoom works well.
There are a couple of issues so far.
kodi works, except for swipe control of the playing stream. No matter what configuration changes I make it doesn't see the swipes (usied for skip forward, and back).
I'm used to printing with the "cups" app. It worked fine on my Pixel3 back when I was on Android 9 and now on 10. On Onn's 9, it complains about security and never successfuly connects to the cups server. The cups server has no restrictions and all 3 are on the same wifi lan. I think it has something to do with https, but why would that be different on Onn's 9?
Finally, do you think we will be getting security patches, or possibly even Android 10 at some point?
ragtop429 said:
As long as you keep in mind that it's a $100 tablet, then YES, well worth it.
I wanted a cheap 10" tablet so I first bought a Chuwi HiPad 10" LTE from Amazon that had far greater specs than the Walmart Onn tablet, but it performed really sluggishly. It had 3 GB RAM, Deca core MT6797X Helio X27 processor, yet still felt like it was being intentionally bottlenecked somehow. I disabled the very little bloat that it had but it still felt like something just wasn't right. I wanted to like it because it felt like a nice piece of hardware (for a cheap chinese product anyway), had a surprisingly beautiful high resolution screen, nice keyboard cover with a trackpad, but I couldn't get past how it performed. I returned it.
Now I have the 007 model Onn 10" tablet from Walmart. The screen is very low resolution so that kind of sucks, but the tablet overall performs as one would expect for basic web browsing and media consumption. It's not blazing fast but it's smooth enough that you don't get aggravated with it.
I rooted it easily with Magisk, installed TWRP, disabled the few Walmart apps that were preinstalled, and it performs just fine. There are occasional lags once you start to use up all the RAM, but overall it performs well for being a $100 tablet. It performs MUCH smoother than the Chuwi tablet that had supposedly better specs.
720p YouTube videos play well. 1080p play well enough, too, but the screen is so low-resolution that there's no point. Nova launcher works well. Chrome seems to do alright browsing the web. It has stereo speakers, but they are very flat. Loud, but flat. Battery life is very short compared to higher end tablets with bigger batteries.
It's no powerhouse, but it does run well for basic needs. Only time will tell if it will last longer than a year. Reviews seem hit and miss as far as overheating and battery issues go. Mine, so far, using it daily for email, web browsing, and watching videos, has never gotten even warm in the past month I've had it.
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Yeah, too bad Netflix will only stream at 480P as the onn tablets only support Widevine L3 rather than L1. Yet another case of streaming services being Defective By Design.