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i was thinking of getting the sensation but after many complaints of users from the same problems that is going to annoy me like touch screen unresponsive - lag - lock screen problems - bad software by htc
so i m now thinking to get the SG2
but i need the phone for the following reasons :-
1- fast speed and fast performance "no lag at all"
2- games play well on it
3- average battery life
4- good camera
5- sound quality
6- optimized stock software "very important"
and after a small tour in sg2 forums i found some issues people annoyed from it and it is not easy to be ignored
1- many talks about battery issue while some has good battery life and it has resolved ??? Q
2- pink spot on camera ..... does it appear while taking the photo in camera app only or in the taken photo or recorded video ???
3- i was surprised when i saw a complaint of some lag in games ???
4- a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen ??
these are 4 issues i want to be sure about and then i can get the phone
Im on my second SGS2 since the first was stolen after 3 weeks.. all i can say this phone is the best smartphone that exists. However only an idiot would go with touchwiz. That **** is so outdated and ugly, i almost puked when i first got the phone.
Here is what you need to go through if you want to make SGS2 the most awesome phone there is (takes about 20 mins and no rooting is required):
-install GO launcher
-install HD live wallpaper for GO launcher
-install GO SMS
-install GO contacts
-install Widgetlocker
-tweak GO launcher to look how you like
There is absolutely no lag, but there was some with touchwiz since the phone comes loaded with 100 widgets on and Touch**** is very unoptimized still.
All of the above apps are free and updated very very frequently
Games play very well on it (lol it has power like no other).
Camera is very good, not the best, but one of the best in the android world.
Sound is better than good although not the best but almost.
Like i said, i had one for 3 weeks, it got stolen and i bought a new one straight away. Didn't even consider anything else. Nothing comes close to SGS2!
Edit * overall it's the best phone. Nokia might have better cameras but the software is laughable. IOS is stupidly closed and you can't make it really work how you want (customization). SGS2 is the best of Android phones by far!
Hi, you are always always going to find problems with which ever phone you go with, sometimes to you can do too much research. This phone is bloody fantastic, I love everything about it. It kicks the crap out of pretty much everything I thow at it, videos, games apps. Battery life isnt fantastic but what to you expect for a dual core CPU running a 1.2 gig, this is laptop territory.
Most vendors will give you a week, to two week grace on your purchase, get it try it, thats by far the best option.
I came from a HD2, wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it was going to be, I also thought I'd miss the sheer number of ROMS available on the HD2. This phone is in a different league to most other on the market and there are now loads of cooked ROMS to choose from. Got mine Free for £25/month, haven't looked back.
buddy01 said:
Im on my second SGS2 since the first was stolen after 3 weeks.. all i can say this phone is the best smartphone that exists. However only an idiot would go with touchwiz. That **** is so outdated and ugly, i almost puked when i first got the phone.
Here is what you need to go through if you want to make SGS2 the most awesome phone there is (takes about 20 mins and no rooting is required):
-install GO launcher
-install HD live wallpaper for GO launcher
-install GO SMS
-install GO contacts
-install Widgetlocker
-tweak GO launcher to look how you like
There is absolutely no lag, but there was some with touchwiz since the phone comes loaded with 100 widgets on and Touch**** is very unoptimized still.
All of the above apps are free and updated very very frequently
Games play very well on it (lol it has power like no other).
Camera is very good, not the best, but one of the best in the android world.
Sound is better than good although not the best but almost.
Like i said, i had one for 3 weeks, it got stolen and i bought a new one straight away. Didn't even consider anything else. Nothing comes close to SGS2!
Edit * overall it's the best phone. Nokia might have better cameras but the software is laughable. IOS is stupidly closed and you can't make it really work how you want (customization). SGS2 is the best of Android phones by far!
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and so what about battery issue ??? with moderate and heavy use how long does it works ??
and pink spot ..... this spot appear on the recorded video or taken pic ???
There is no pink spot. There was no pink spot on the first SGS2 and not on this second one either. If there is you can take it back and demand a new one immediately.
The battery of my first one lasted maximum of 2 days and some hours.. i can't remember exactly. The second one lasted the same until yesterday when i installed some apps that made something go wrong and it only lasted 5 hours and that was on the night when i didnt even touch the phone. I think some process was left running since i saw from the report that system took 75% of battery by itself at night. I think the app was theft aware 2 (it hides itself as system app so thief's don't delete it). I post this info so that people realize that battery drain is mostly caused by apps from the market.
TL;DR: battery lasts 2 days - 1 day heavy use
believe me ,you're as right as your complain but not so perfect not having it.
it is the best smart phone out there now, am not a sales rep neither do i want to convince you but nothing come so close to perfect in the phone world than the sgs2.
all phones got there one problem or the other but you will surely enjoy this one.........read alot about this and that on the forum also till i got mine and wasn't having those problem,dont ask me what i did to my phone cos i did nothing, just download batiste rom and love it .go for it i advice but let the choice be yours
ok thanks guys
but another Q .... about build quality and heat generation
the outer layer of the body of the phone is easy to be removed by scratches or it is fine and durable ?? this is a major factor that makes me toward sensation first
and what about heat generation is it a related to battery drain and solved or not ??
and does the heat affect the device ??? or it is in the normal range
i know it is normal to phone to get hot when charging or using gps or other hard work but my Q is the generated heat is tooo high that annoy or not ??
buddy01 said:
There is no pink spot. There was no pink spot on the first SGS2 and not on this second one either. If there is you can take it back and demand a new one immediately.
The battery of my first one lasted maximum of 2 days and some hours.. i can't remember exactly. The second one lasted the same until yesterday when i installed some apps that made something go wrong and it only lasted 5 hours and that was on the night when i didnt even touch the phone. I think some process was left running since i saw from the report that system took 75% of battery by itself at night. I think the app was theft aware 2 (it hides itself as system app so thief's don't delete it). I post this info so that people realize that battery drain is mostly caused by apps from the market.
TL;DR: battery lasts 2 days - 1 day heavy use
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Try Samsungdive - doesn't eat the battery and it's built in!
Well, I started off thinking the SGS2 was not for me, then it grew on me, probably Android more than the phone.
Battery life started off pretty bad, but once you sort of a few things like the AP news widget that drains and uses data, etc...Also my battery lasts and charges faster each day, I guess the battery takes a while to get to its optimum, at first I was struggling with the battery life, now I am as happy as I was with my Iphone4.
Games don't lag at all, well at least not for me, I have now rooted mine so as I can use the chainfire 3D drivers to be able to play Tegra games, which run very smoothly indeed, just wish there were more games, but then that's not the devices fault.
I quite like TouchWiz, works well for me, but now I have just read about this Go UI thingy, I might try it out. Something I am finding more and more each day is how terribly addictive playing about with your Widgets and homescreens is, so much to play with and again, not had any lag whatsoever.
The camera is brilliant, much better then the old Iphone4's faster, clearer, quicker to autofocus, can't work out where this pink stuff is though, my photos seem fine.
Music, I use the built in player make sure 5.1 is set and download free Equalizer from the market, simply perfect sounds.
Another thing that I have not found as well is this wake up lag, perhaps I am so used to the slower performing Iphone 4 that I just don't notice these things.
If you want more imaginative and creative games and applications Android is not for you (but its getting there), go the route of Iphone4.
But if you want a super fast, stable, freedom to do what you like, OK games and Apps, general brilliant allround device, the SGS2 is for you.
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ok thanks guys
but another Q .... about build quality and heat generation
the outer layer of the body of the phone is easy to be removed by scratches or it is fine and durable ?? this is a major factor that makes me toward sensation first
and what about heat generation is it a related to battery drain and solved or not ??
and does the heat affect the device ??? or it is in the normal range
i know it is normal to phone to get hot when charging or using gps or other hard work but my Q is the generated heat is tooo high that annoy or not ??
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Build quality - IMO : It's very good, there was a video on youtube showing the outer layer being really stretched and it was still like stock after the stretch. And it's anti-stratch(idk how to say), I got no scratch.
Heat generation, while charging it can get very hot, and maybe it get hots sometimes while playing, but I have the feeling it's gone after some times, or you get used to it. It's really bearable.
Battery drain is, for me, solved in XXKG1. Though I can get only 4 hours screen-on time(that's enough for me) with auto-brightness(3 approx. with max brightness), the phone can last a day and a half for me.
I think all smartphone have battery drain problem.
For me... in standby mode 2 days (received some calls)
and 6-8 hours maybe less for heavy use (games+wifi+gps)
but you can use Power saving mode function to save your battery life.
I got the problem about pink spot on my camera but someone said it will be fixed when new rom available.
"a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen" - I saw new 2.3.4 has fix this problem.
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Try Samsungdive - doesn't eat the battery and it's built in!
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Dive dies when you change sim. I had Dive installed on stolen SGS2 and all it did was say "SIM card has changed" and it didn't give the new phone number of the thief's or nothing. SamsungDive is useless.
Theft Aware still works after Sim change and is way way better in functions.. im not ready to uninstall it yet, but hope to find that the drain is caused by something else.
xdafun4all said:
i was thinking of getting the sensation but after many complaints of users from the same problems that is going to annoy me like touch screen unresponsive - lag - lock screen problems - bad software by htc
so i m now thinking to get the SG2
but i need the phone for the following reasons :-
1- fast speed and fast performance "no lag at all"
2- games play well on it
3- average battery life
4- good camera
5- sound quality
6- optimized stock software "very important"
these are 4 issues i want to be sure about and then i can get the phone
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1- this phone is lag free even on stock TW4. But Launcher Pro Plus is one of teh best alternative launchers for people that liek to change. And LPP won't affect your battery at all
2- I don't game but it is supposed to be one of the best gaming phones. Phone compatibility shouldn't be an issue as it is one of the top selling android phones
3- Battery life is great compared to most smartphones. It will also depend on your use of it. Most phones will be behind it though with such a screen.
4- Camera is one of the best on smartphones. But, of course, don't expect such a small lens to give you something even near to a DSLR or even a high end compact digital, ok!!
5- Sound quality: just like for point 4: don't expect it to replace dedicated hardware for music amateurs (not the RnB deaf generations )
6- I used it all the way on KE2 and since few days official KF3. Stay official and you'll have less issues if you like stock
and after a small tour in sg2 forums i found some issues people annoyed from it and it is not easy to be ignored
1- many talks about battery issue while some has good battery life and it has resolved ??? Q
2- pink spot on camera ..... does it appear while taking the photo in camera app only or in the taken photo or recorded video ???
3- i was surprised when i saw a complaint of some lag in games ???
4- a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen ??
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1- Just select apps you need and don't install every freeware you see just to "consume" apps. Limit auto updating apps, limit auto-starting apps, avoid live widgets and limit most widgets. Just general good sense rules like with any OS in the world.
2- People saying they don't have the issue just don't know how to reproduce it. Yes, it has it, like the SGS1 I tested and many other smartphones. It will appear under some special circumstances. As I said, it's a very small lens and will have some limits under many circumstances, like it is with any lens if you know a little about photography. The spot won't ever bother you most of the times.
3- See my answer above about games.
4- This issue is absent. Most people in forums install any thing on their phone and then complain...
any one have dust under screen ???
it is one of the facts that makes me stop thinking of the sensation
Guys..how about the banding issue..? has the banding issue been addressed by the latest software upgrades? or does angry birds, the battery charging meter and live wallpapers still exhibit banding?
No banding, no dust under screen. I dunno how you could even fit any dust under screen, it's not like iphone 3gs with 5mm between screen and glass. I only had the previous for 3 weeks though and this one is about a week old now.
:O the banding issue has been rectified? could you post a pic of the charging screen or angry birds if possible?
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:O the banding issue has been rectified? could you post a pic of the charging screen or angry birds if possible?
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we need a confirmation is banding issue is solved ??? means it is software or hardware ???
Hey guys,
Recently I've been thinking about changing my Xperia Mini Pro to something better. I just want to get phone that won't be laggy after some while - XMP is like that, no matter on which ROM and kernel.
I've got iPhone in my thoughts, but I don't have many friends with Apple product so it'd be useless - I wouldn't be able to use iMessage or AirDrop so functionality drops down a lot.
Next thing in my mind was Windows Phone. I think it's great alternative for Android, but when I had a fight with my moms Lumia 520, I decided not to buy Windows Phone so soon.
So my eyes looked at Android not-so latest smartphones and I saw Nexus. I felt in love with design of Nexus 4 and 5. My friend got N5 so I did play a little with it and I'd love to buy 5, but I can't afford that so the only alternative is to buy Nexus 4.
I've read that it has good hardware and Android runs smoothly even after a year of using - it's a must be for me, because it's going to be my phone for about 2-3 years from now. The only thing is that glass design - it's beautiful but isn't it vulnerable to scratches or even cracks?
And the best thing I'd love about Nexus 4 is that it's going to get Android L - it's the best information I've heard recently.
So guys... Finally. Is Nexus 4 still worth buying in 2014?
My friend is selling N4 for about 200-230$.
I can tell you, the Nexus 4 is worth every penny, also in 2014 too!
Not only the Nexus 4 has good hardware and everything runs smooth und fast but the community behind this device is great, gentle and helpful. Just take a look at the Nexus 4 threads here on xda. This is just awesome! :good:
With the vanilla android and open source policy of the Nexus 4 you can customize this device to your hearts content. Cyanogenmod, ParanoidAndroid, matr1x kernel, ak...just to name a few examples.
I also own a Nexus 4 since 1 and a half year and its runs like Usain Bolt.
Honestly you shouldn't buy the N4. The phone is very fragile. The glass on the back is thin and is not protected with Gorilla Glass. The Camera is not good, Galaxy S3 has a better camera than the Nexus 4. That is both video and still photos. The battery is average and will last you through a day, maybe two days if you use a battery saving kernel like HellsDoctor.
Lot's of games do not work very well on the Nexus 4, for some reason, i think it's bad optimization with AOSP, because the Quad Core 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 320 are strong enough to play every android game. The Nexus 4 also has thermal issues, because of an internal design flaw, the CPU can get very hot (up to 60C in games) if you don't undervolt it with a custom kernel. Than the temp peaks out at maximum 45-50C.
Now i don't mean to bash the Nexus 4, i have one! The design is very nice, it has a good display (With Obsanity_Amoled it looks like an OLED display!), and it has thin bezels. The Nexus 4 is also very very fast, it could compete with the S5, HTC One M8 and Xperia Z2.
But, here is what would I do if I were to change my phone.
If i were you, i would not get the Nexus 4. or the Nexus 5. I would get a Galaxy S4, but i would go for the i9505 or the i9506, the 4G Snapdragon 600 and 800 versions.
I know they are made out of plastic but i would have hard shell case on it so it wouldn't matter.
Yes, they run on TouchWiz but guess what? You can put AOSP on them! That's nexus 4 speeds (even faster because of Snapdragon 600&800) and you get an AMAZING 13MP Camera (my friend has the i9505 and that camera is just EYE QUALITY), and you get a bigger, replaceable battery!
So what's your choice, Nexus 4, or a Galaxy S4 i9505-i9506 AOSP Edition?
I heard about fragility of this phone but I'm trying to take care about my phones . So I don't think it would be a problem - if I'd buy N4, the first thing will be buying a case or a bumper.
When we're going into games - I don't even play games on smartphone. The only games I've ever played were Angry Birds, Flappy Bird, Drop and 2048, so I'm not that "gamer" guy. I heard a little about heating up. But which smartphone hasn't that problem? Even my XMP has a heat problem when I'm using it intensively and long. But it may be a little problem when it comes to heating up even when using WiFi or something like that...
And about that Galaxy S4 is the thing that I really don't like the whole Galaxy series design. It looks too much like cheap phones for me. I much prefer the Sony or Apple design - especially iPhone 4.
I thought about Moto G too, but 1 GB of RAM isn't very convincing and I looked a little at Meizu MX3 with Flyme OS 3 - it's beautiful OS, I think. But it's battery is horrible.
And here we come... Battery... And that's the thing. 4.70" screen and 2100 mAh battery... Nexus 5 isn't better. That's hurting me a lot, that battery life.
Maybe more users will answer in this topic - I do find it very helpful.
But for now thanks for answers, guys! It's harder choice than I thought
still rocking my nexus 4 naked , for about 1 year or bit more , no cracks but some scratches here and there because it keeps sliding randomly , besides that it can easily go through next 3 years without hiccup imo , i was in almost same boat as you but i really think 200-250 is wayy wayyyyyy too much for nexus 4 these days , 150 $ for 16 gb is reasonable in mint but used condition , even if you are gamer this baby will run anything you throw at it without any stutters or anything , battery isnt issue it can last as much as any other phone if you use properly optimized kernel and default display settings suck anywhoo if you can get htc one gpe that would be also great :good:
Mashed_Potatoes said:
Honestly you shouldn't buy the N4. The phone is very fragile. The glass on the back is thin and is not protected with Gorilla Glass. The Camera is not good, Galaxy S3 has a better camera than the Nexus 4. That is both video and still photos. The battery is average and will last you through a day, maybe two days if you use a battery saving kernel like HellsDoctor.
Lot's of games do not work very well on the Nexus 4, for some reason, i think it's bad optimization with AOSP, because the Quad Core 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 320 are strong enough to play every android game. The Nexus 4 also has thermal issues, because of an internal design flaw, the CPU can get very hot (up to 60C in games) if you don't undervolt it with a custom kernel. Than the temp peaks out at maximum 45-50C.
Now i don't mean to bash the Nexus 4, i have one! The design is very nice, it has a good display (With Obsanity_Amoled it looks like an OLED display!), and it has thin bezels. The Nexus 4 is also very very fast, it could compete with the S5, HTC One M8 and Xperia Z2.
But, here is what would I do if I were to change my phone.
If i were you, i would not get the Nexus 4. or the Nexus 5. I would get a Galaxy S4, but i would go for the i9505 or the i9506, the 4G Snapdragon 600 and 800 versions.
I know they are made out of plastic but i would have hard shell case on it so it wouldn't matter.
Yes, they run on TouchWiz but guess what? You can put AOSP on them! That's nexus 4 speeds (even faster because of Snapdragon 600&800) and you get an AMAZING 13MP Camera (my friend has the i9505 and that camera is just EYE QUALITY), and you get a bigger, replaceable battery!
So what's your choice, Nexus 4, or a Galaxy S4 i9505-i9506 AOSP Edition?
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I completely disagree with you. Tell me a game that doesnt run well on the N4? I'm a hardcore gamer and there is barely any game that I havent played. Deciding for a phone for it's camera? If so buy a Nokia 3310 and some Nikon/Canon and you rock lol
The topic: I bough a N4 soon and 4 of my friends bough N4 after they played a bit with mine. I would buy it again if I didnt already have it.
Mavasilisk said:
I completely disagree with you. Tell me a game that doesnt run well on the N4? I'm a hardcore gamer and there is barely any game that I havent played. Deciding for a phone for it's camera? If so buy a Nokia 3310 and some Nikon/Canon and you rock lol
The topic: I bough a N4 soon and 4 of my friends bough N4 after they played a bit with mine. I would buy it again if I didnt already have it.
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NFS: Most Wanted runs perfectly but GTA Games, Gangstar Vegas, Despicable Me: Minion rush lag or run at lower framerates.
Mashed_Potatoes said:
NFS: Most Wanted runs perfectly but GTA Games, Gangstar Vegas, Despicable Me: Minion rush lag or run at lower framerates.
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Ever seen Gangstar game running smooth on any device? Even tho on the high settings i finished it w/o any lag with franco kernel. I tried all of the rest and gangstar lags but not with franco, you should try it too. Almost finished GTA:SA and it bugged my safe game also with franco kernel. Despicable me is known for its "optimization" and lagging for most of the devices. When u see bad fps try to see if other phones have it like Despicable me. And for most of the games u said are actually made by Gameloft who produce even unfinished projects so it should not make ur decision.Gameloft is like:
-ok guys we made the game what now, should we optimize it?
-dafaq you are talking about opti-what? Is it running?
-yea but with bad framerate.
-its ok man, release it we will blame people's devices. :good:
Also I'm thinking about not to buying any phone right now and get cash for Nexus 5 - I love this minimalistic design and everything. But this battery to 4.95" screen is misunderstanding...
In your place, I would absolutely go for the N4. I'm using one myself. No matter what I do to the software (hint: a LOT!) I can always get it back up and running. I love the phone and wouldn't replace it with anything other than a Nexus 5.
I've owned a Nexus 4 since the end of August 2013 and even today I still love this phone and I don't feel the urge to upgrade. (At least not until the Nexus 6 is released.)
This phone handles everything I want it to do. Its fast, snappy and simple, one of the reasons I love pure Android as there is no bloat. My phone is still completely stock from day 1 as I don't feel the need to root it. The screen is still quality in my eyes. There is also a possibility that this phone will receive Android L officially from Google which would be fantastic.
However my major grip; battery life. It is horrendous. Hardly makes it through a day for me. I even use extensive methods to save battery, for example, no Google now, location services off, phone on flight mode when WiFi is on etc. And the battery life still sucks. Its a shame the battery is not replaceable or I would have installed an extended battery as I have done in the past for previous phones.
My brother owns a Nexus 5, and from what I've seen his battery life is much much better than the Nexus 4. (He doesn't even use any optimisations and battery saving tweaks)
Comparing the Nexus 5 side by side to the Nexus 4 I don't feel a significant difference to warrant to purchase of the newer model, so when I was given the opportunity a few months ago, I turned it down and I will wait for the Nexus 6.
Bottom line; Nexus 4 is a fantastic phone, but terrible battery life.
yes
I would buy because of the communty behind it
Fareius said:
Hey guys,
Recently I've been thinking about changing my Xperia Mini Pro to something better. I just want to get phone that won't be laggy after some while - XMP is like that, no matter on which ROM and kernel.
I've got iPhone in my thoughts, but I don't have many friends with Apple product so it'd be useless - I wouldn't be able to use iMessage or AirDrop so functionality drops down a lot.
Next thing in my mind was Windows Phone. I think it's great alternative for Android, but when I had a fight with my moms Lumia 520, I decided not to buy Windows Phone so soon.
So my eyes looked at Android not-so latest smartphones and I saw Nexus. I felt in love with design of Nexus 4 and 5. My friend got N5 so I did play a little with it and I'd love to buy 5, but I can't afford that so the only alternative is to buy Nexus 4.
I've read that it has good hardware and Android runs smoothly even after a year of using - it's a must be for me, because it's going to be my phone for about 2-3 years from now. The only thing is that glass design - it's beautiful but isn't it vulnerable to scratches or even cracks?
And the best thing I'd love about Nexus 4 is that it's going to get Android L - it's the best information I've heard recently.
So guys... Finally. Is Nexus 4 still worth buying in 2014?
My friend is selling N4 for about 200-230$.
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The Nexus 4 is a brilliant phone right now, but its ageing processor, lack of LTE and bad battery life mean it probably won't last another 2-3 years. It is a two year old phone, after all.
I just picked up a mint one for 170 and at that price to me its a great phone now yea its just a backup to my z ultra but I am still having a lot of fun with it. I mean just look at the Dev support, its crazy good and I got LTE working in just a few mins pulled 70 down and 25 up first try on T-Mobile.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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My phone is still completely stock from day 1 as I don't feel the need to root it.
However my major grip; battery life. It is horrendous. Hardly makes it through a day for me. I even use extensive methods to save battery, for example, no Google now, location services off, phone on flight mode when WiFi is on etc. And the battery life still sucks.
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You say you don't feel the need to root it yet you have bad battery life. Now go root it and flash HellsDoctor kernel..... you'll have about 4-5 hours of screen on time
And guys, what do you think about this Moto G. I've read a little about it.
Maybe this 1 GB of RAM is not that bad. Any experiences with that smartphone?
About support - I know and that's the best thing in the whole Nexus series - community support. And I'm still hesitating between N4/N5 and now this Moto G came into my mind... It's not so expensive and hardware isn't that bad.
edit: but it doesn't havet NFC . But I think it'll get Android L:
http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-x-moto-g-android-l-5-0-lollipop-update-moto-e/
I am considering getting a second hand N4 as it's still a great phone, especially if it receives Android L from Google. I have an S4 and have been thinking about selling it as with the money (around £240) I could buy an N4 (£120) AND a Nexus 7 2013 (£110). I have the 2012 N7 so would sell it also. Just trying to figure out how much I would miss having the expandable storage option and also the camera on the S4. The other features (sensors, IR, removable battery), I think I could live without as I have them turned off pretty much all the time anyway, don't use the IR remote feature that much and take advantage of a spare battery. I think an external backup battery could be a better solution anyway (much higher capacity, can feature multiple USB ports for several phones/devices.)
Thinking about the expandable storage, it probably wouldnt be much of an issue, as my S4 is a 16GB model but you only get 8-9GB internal accessible even after debloating, where as a 16GB nexus 4 has about 13.5GB available and I could use my 32GB sd card with an OTG reader when need be, I also back up photos using Google auto backup as well which helps. Sorry just trying to convince myself to go ahead and sell my S4..
Still a great phone
In my opinion the N4 is still one of the best phones out there. I recommend it to everyone.
schliflo said:
In my opinion the N4 is still one of the best phones out there. I recommend it to everyone.
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yep, think so as well
I'm going with Nexus 4. Nexus 5 is too expensive for me. I won't get cash from my mother to buy Nexus 5. I'll lend some money from friend or brother for Nex 4. Nexus 4 is for about 200-250$ here, in Poland, used and in good condition but from my friend's friend . Through something like ebay maybe I could get one for 180$ but I don't want to risk broken or stolen smartphone.
So, guys, thanks for answers and advices! Thanks so much. Everyone are getting "Thanks" button from me!
Let the Nexus force be with you, guys! .
Hi guys,
Looking to buy HAM7...why in your opinions are major good and bad points?
I've read the reviews but you know there are always kinks here and there that don show up on reviews?
My biggest concern is: Battery life and snappy flow of OS without stutter, each stutter makes.my heart skip a beat...wht is your feedback on it?
I'm coming from zenfone6, I liked it but lost it.
There aren't any other 6 inch phones, nexus 6 is bit expensive and ive heard bad stuff about its battery.
Thanks for your feedback
Oh and also browisng, how is that?
My main tasks are browing, social media, mail checks and gaming such as summoners war, clash of clans etc
I'm probably going to change default launcher, I'm not a fan of emui 3 that much.
In short:
Pro: the hardware parts are good.
Con: the software updates are literally quite .. hmmm... confusing.
While I myself use ascend, i'd like to be objective. maybe you want to look also at mi note or note pro ?
phrozenflame said:
Hi guys,
Looking to buy HAM7...why in your opinions are major good and bad points?
I've read the reviews but you know there are always kinks here and there that don show up on reviews?
My biggest concern is: Battery life and snappy flow of OS without stutter, each stutter makes.my heart skip a beat...wht is your feedback on it?
I'm coming from zenfone6, I liked it but lost it.
There aren't any other 6 inch phones, nexus 6 is bit expensive and ive heard bad stuff about its battery.
Thanks for your feedback
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My opinions MT7 is perfect for gaming,media or entertain...I just love my mt7,super fast,not any hanging point while playing game if u get ph call like Samsung. Large batt keep u alive for 2 days with multimedia usage, only gaming time batt take more power...the bad thing only I found that it's Android upgrades...Huawei is one of donkey brand which always fail to keep promise for new upgrades...one thing I noticed mt7 touch screen more improve and smooth to use...
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My opinions MT7 is perfect for gaming,media or entertain...I just love my mt7,super fast,not any hanging point while playing game if u get ph call like Samsung. Large batt keep u alive for 2 days with multimedia usage, only gaming time batt take more power...the bad thing only I found that it's Android upgrades...Huawei is one of donkey brand which always fail to keep promise for new upgrades...one thing I noticed mt7 touch screen more improve and smooth to use...
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Hahaha.. exactly. The upgrade part is the real sore point. With so many variations and strict regional validations before you can upgrade. Other than that, this phone is truly a gem
Yes the phone is awesome. It's got an awesome built in battery monitoring app, backup app as good as titanium and its fluid. If you want more power you could set it to a "high performance mode". Battery is superb. What sucks is yeah the updates and the dual sim/micro sd. Btw get the gold edition with 3gb of ram
Just bought one, screen of my LG g3 broken. It beats g3 on every point; great battery life (actually my first handheld that goes - much more- than a day with a charge, much faster than g3, browsing gaming is much better.
And as for updates; I really don't miss the lollipop of the g3 at all.
As prices are quite affordable now, I should say, go and get it!
Does the phone overheat or something?
I know my zenfone 6 would heat too much when playing summoners war.
No heat issue at blitz gaming. browsing or kodi movie watching via WIFI - 32gb iso is smooth and cold.
Playing a lot (right now Halflife port), and NEVER experienced any heating issue (well with LG g3 before!) - and, no noticeable battery drain (because of the huge battery, of course).
All together, also a great game handheld - Much smoother than G3 was.
Thanks guys, bought it
I can grab one for £38, performance and screen look very good, and the size of the phone is appealing as I have little hands..
now ive looked at some old reviews and the only thing that lets it down is the camera looks very poor, but that was 4.4.2, so have later builds improved the camera performance
cheers guys
The camera performance is limited by hardware and no OS upgrade is going to improve it very much.
Price seems low and may be worth it but N4 is getting really old these days. Camera in N4 is really bad I have to admit and nothing will change it.
The N4 got old
Camera is bad
Battery is bad
I have lag in games such as Hearthstone, Subway Surfer
£38 is a good price though
For £38 I wouldn't even care if the camera is ****.
For that price I'd buy the heck out of it. The camera is decent for simply sharing on Facebook and Twitter, nothing really more than that. If you get the right Rom and Kernel you can get a day's battery life out of it with maybe 20-30% when you plug it in. If you are heavy into gaming, it might not be the right phone but if it's light games like Dots, Fruit Ninja, ect. then you shouldn't have many issues at all.
To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed with the gaming speed of the XZ.
I only play one game, its a game in KIK called Galatronvs which is a basic Shootemup.
And to be honest , it is REALLY LAGGY on the XZ compared to the S6......The S6 stays smooth , doesn't judder, doesn't pause, doesn't jump.
All these things happen on the XZ as the game gets busier and there are more bullets and ships on the screen..ultimately i die because its becomes a slide show.
After reading all the articles about the Snapdragon 820 and the Adreno 530 I feel more than a little bit down that my two year old S6 with an Inhouse Mali-T760MP8 outperforms it.
Don't get me wrong, in day to day use it's a dream to use..I don't know what it is about Samsung that their hardware is so good but it translates so badly on software that using the phone feels like work rather than fun, even Swiftkey runs like crap on the Samsung.
I haven't tried any other phones yet, but my friend has just gotten a Google Pixel XL and he's going to let me install Kik and have a 30 minute game next week.
If it lags as well, I'd have to say either the Adreno 530 isn't all that good, or the game is terribly optimised.
Either way , at the moment I'm underwhelmed by my Platinum flagship phone gaming experience.
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To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed with the gaming speed of the XZ.
I only play one game, its a game in KIK called Galatronvs which is a basic Shootemup.
And to be honest , it is REALLY LAGGY on the XZ compared to the S6......The S6 stays smooth , doesn't judder, doesn't pause, doesn't jump.
All these things happen on the XZ as the game gets busier and there are more bullets and ships on the screen..ultimately i die because its becomes a slide show.
After reading all the articles about the Snapdragon 820 and the Adreno 530 I feel more than a little bit down that my two year old S6 with an Inhouse Mali-T760MP8 outperforms it.
Don't get me wrong, in day to day use it's a dream to use..I don't know what it is about Samsung that their hardware is so good but it translates so badly on software that using the phone feels like work rather than fun, even Swiftkey runs like crap on the Samsung.
I haven't tried any other phones yet, but my friend has just gotten a Google Pixel XL and he's going to let me install Kik and have a 30 minute game next week.
If it lags as well, I'd have to say either the Adreno 530 isn't all that good, or the game is terribly optimised.
Either way , at the moment I'm underwhelmed by my Platinum flagship phone gaming experience.
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Your problem is very strange. I have xperia xz and i don't have laggy game xperience. The games goes smooth really. What games did you try? Or you play with stamina active?
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Your problem is very strange. I have xperia xz and i don't have laggy game xperience. The games goes smooth really. What games did you try? Or you play with stamina active?
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I really only play the one game called Galatronvs via the instant messaging app KIK.
my phone is unlocked,rooted and still on MM 39.0.A.3.30 because i want to still use Xposed Framework.
I don't use any stamina settings at all , they are always turned off, nor do i use any power saving apps such as greenify.
I don't even use a kernal control program that will let you route more processes into a single core thus saving battery.
Bluntly put, the phone is running at full speed with no power saving.
I would imagine unless you've moved from a different phone to your XZ and play the same games you wouldn't notice the difference..Also it would very much depend on the kind of game.
Any game thats not already pushing the old phone isn't going to show any difference on the XZ is it.
Galatron is an upwards scrolling shootemup that gets increasingly more difficult, more bullets , more ships ...thats when you notice the difference ..only when it really starts to get busy.
So i dunno, Guess I'll have more of an idea when i try the Pixel XL with the 821 and the Adreno 530...Though technically the 821 isn't supposed to impact gaming, just multitasking , better power usage etc.
I'll be spewin bickies if its much better , I really don't want the Pixel..it's a little too small and the XL is a little too big :laugh: ... And i hate using a phone without Xposed which i can't do with N
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I really only play the one game called Galatronvs via the instant messaging app KIK.
my phone is unlocked,rooted and still on MM 39.0.A.3.30 because i want to still use Xposed Framework.
I don't use any stamina settings at all , they are always turned off, nor do i use any power saving apps such as greenify.
I don't even use a kernal control program that will let you route more processes into a single core thus saving battery.
Bluntly put, the phone is running at full speed with no power saving.
I would imagine unless you've moved from a different phone to your XZ and play the same games you wouldn't notice the difference..Also it would very much depend on the kind of game.
Any game thats not already pushing the old phone isn't going to show any difference on the XZ is it.
Galatron is an upwards scrolling shootemup that gets increasingly more difficult, more bullets , more ships ...thats when you notice the difference ..only when it really starts to get busy.
So i dunno, Guess I'll have more of an idea when i try the Pixel XL with the 821 and the Adreno 530...Though technically the 821 isn't supposed to impact gaming, just multitasking , better power usage etc.
I'll be spewin bickies if its much better , I really don't want the Pixel..it's a little too small and the XL is a little too big :laugh: ... And i hate using a phone without Xposed which i can't do with N
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I compared the games with mate 9 for example,i think it is more fluid than mate 9. I ONLY use for games android N ,because android N on xz is much better than M in overall (battery and performace in particular). I think your version of firmware is the less optimized and old. What do you use xposed in particular? I have z2 and there i use often xposed. But on xz i stay so good with android n and latest firmware. And i don't care actually for root and xposed. Is fully stock.
I think you might be experiencing the same thing as me. This happens on all of the Xperia devices I've owned (Z2 Tablet, Z3, Z3C, and Z5.). My XZ is on order, and I'll be sure to test this again. Yes, benchmarks have about the same high scores as all the other flagships, but 3D games stutters on Xperia devices. I think most users are not able to notice it. Hardcore FPS PC gamers like myself would notice this easily.
Here's a thread I created on the Z3 forums a while back: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/stuttering-games-t2949670 . There's a video in there with my Z3 and LG G2 playing Riptide GP 2.
I just learned to live it with since gaming is not my priority on my phone, and because I don't like all the other phones.
Honestly I'm not a hardcore gamer, I only play the one game Galatronvs via the KIK APP, it's basically a BOT game which is a downwardly scrolling shootemup... However you do compete online against other players.
And I've confirmed it's definitely a heat issue.
Sadly Sony were supposed to have solved their heating issues with the release of the snapdragon 20...but they haven't.
I can actively connect the lagginess of the game directly with the heat of the phone, the ambient heat of the room, and that you can feel the phone getting hotter and hotter in direct relation to how laggy it gets.
I've even been in the middle of a laggy game with the phone feeling very hot and deliberately moved in front of an air cooler with the back of the phone directly in the path of the cool air and had the lagging start to recede as the phone cools down.
I was given an opportunity to try a pixel xl on the same game in an air conditioned room and they were similar.
Then I went outside in the summer heat and the pixel stayed smooth, the Sony rapidly heated up and started to lag.
When you exit the game the Sony stays laggy for about 6 to 7 seconds.. I imagine this is as it cools down.
I love Sony phones, I love that they stick with standard HD screens for good battery life.
I love that they stick with the 5.2" screen... I don't have huge hands.
SwiftKey seems to work better on a Sony than on a Samsung definitely that's for sure.
Though to be honest I am always a little let down by Sony's cameras on their own phones.. It's like they make better lenses for everybody else.
The Samsung will focus INSTANTLY on something small and upclose... Like say... A windows 7 sticker (I'm a computer tech)... Whereas I have quite a lot of difficulty getting the Sony to focus up close.
I've just ordered a oneplus 3t which I'll root and put similar xposed framework modules and compare it to the XZ.
I'll update this for anybody that's interested.
let me say something about these issues...i had xperias before and now i own XZ wich i thought that it wouldnt have overheating problems like on the z5 but it still has some wierd isuues...for example:i ran a game and even when it got hot it worked smoothly and i was surprised and i sad well done sony or Qualcom LOL...so i was feeling happy and after 2 or 3 weeks of usage i get random lags even if the phone is just a little bit warm with no intence gaming yet but somehow the phone works good when its hot but lags when its cooler...this is so wierd...i dont know anymore whats going on with there phones but im seriously thinking of not buying xperia phones again...a guy at waranty sad to me that this is not overheating but its just heating and its up to sony and not them OMG.... i was so angry when he replied me in that way,that i was in the mood to hit that guy strait on the nose really.these phones are not cheap and im not letting them making me a fool.but at the end they will get me back becouse im a Sony fan and also love there design language...sick bastards
Even though I'm a huge nerd, I really did avoid smart phones.. Or even mobile phones for a long long time.. I hated the idea that somebody could contact me no matter where I was.. I didn't get my first smartphone till March 2012.
That was the Samsung Galaxy nexus now more commonly known as the Google nexus.
After that I got an LG G2 and a week later I bought a Sony Z1... And the very first thing I noticed was that even though the LG g2 and the Z1 were based on the same SOC... The Z1 felt vastly superior to use.. It felt faster and more responsive... But i ended up using the LG g2 due to its amazing battery life.
After that I got a Z3 which also had fantastic battery life and I kept that for numerous years till the Z3+ came out.
That was a bad decision.. I was an early adapter.. I wish I'd waited.
So I got an S6 edge.
Worst phone EVER.... The middle of the screen is so unresponsive.. That curve does not make perfect contact with the digitizer or whatever is underneath it.
So I got a S6 flat version... And still a terrible phone experience... Honestly the technology in Samsung phones is amazing... It's like their memory technology is twice as fast as the competition.
It's like comparing a computer with a hard drive to one with an SSD, but they're just let down by poor implementation of software.. It's hard to explain.
I love haptic feedback.. I can't type on a phone without it.
The Z1's haptic feedback was so amazing you could practically hear it across the room if you turned it up.. And if you kept pressing a button fast it's like it would set up a constant vibration..
Same for the Z3+, the Z3 had pretty average feedback as does the XZ I'm writing on now.
However the S6 has the worst feedback I've ever used on a phone.. It's a very high frequency.. It makes typing on the phone unpleasant, it makes using the navigation buttons unpleasant.. The S6 has issues with SwiftKey, yet SwiftKey worked flawlessly on the LG g2, Z1, Z3, Z3+ and the XZ.
So I've not really had that many brands of phones.. That's why I'm giving the Oneplus 3t a go... I've given Sony my loyalty and been burnt twice now.
I'm a big fan of notification lights so I won't go HTC since their too cheap to put a decent light in... And they hide it in the speaker grill.
I wish phone reviewers would review notification lights and feedback... There's more to a phone than how fast it launches a program or what the launcher looks like... There's how it "feels" to use as well.
Just my two cents worth on my thread.
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Honestly I'm not a hardcore gamer, I only play the one game Galatronvs via the KIK APP, it's basically a BOT game which is a downwardly scrolling shootemup... However you do compete online against other players.
And I've confirmed it's definitely a heat issue.
Sadly Sony were supposed to have solved their heating issues with the release of the snapdragon 20...but they haven't.
I can actively connect the lagginess of the game directly with the heat of the phone, the ambient heat of the room, and that you can feel the phone getting hotter and hotter in direct relation to how laggy it gets.
I've even been in the middle of a laggy game with the phone feeling very hot and deliberately moved in front of an air cooler with the back of the phone directly in the path of the cool air and had the lagging start to recede as the phone cools down.
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Thanks for that info. I'll be sure to test for heat problems when I receive mines. Now I fear that I may have two problems when it comes to gaming, suttering and heat LOL.
I haven't had any heat problems with my current Z5 though. The only time was when recording in 4K during a heat wave (around 95F).
Meh the play store is still full of *****y games that weren't even optimised for the adreno 530, the phone has no fault, the 530 destroys not only the competition(in the same category), but especially older mobile GPUs, ask the dev to use his fingers to make a proper app, the XZ has no fault.
I play EA sport - UFC game (i think this is a first-classe game for smartphone, close to PS3 games graphic and textures!!!)
i see lag when conect charger and play this game... this is normal for any phone when actived soc thermal controll (I have galaxy S6 before XZ too!)
any phone have good performance in gaming is "iPhone" but i am ok with freedom in android platform
* sorry for my bad english...
i test some apps i don't if it s the case or not but most games are developed by unity3d!
they are fine on other phones! on xperia this is the similar issue between games that slowing down
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To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed with the gaming speed of the XZ.
I only play one game, its a game in KIK called Galatronvs which is a basic Shootemup.
And to be honest , it is REALLY LAGGY on the XZ compared to the S6......The S6 stays smooth , doesn't judder, doesn't pause, doesn't jump.
All these things happen on the XZ as the game gets busier and there are more bullets and ships on the screen..ultimately i die because its becomes a slide show.
After reading all the articles about the Snapdragon 820 and the Adreno 530 I feel more than a little bit down that my two year old S6 with an Inhouse Mali-T760MP8 outperforms it.
Don't get me wrong, in day to day use it's a dream to use..I don't know what it is about Samsung that their hardware is so good but it translates so badly on software that using the phone feels like work rather than fun, even Swiftkey runs like crap on the Samsung.
I haven't tried any other phones yet, but my friend has just gotten a Google Pixel XL and he's going to let me install Kik and have a 30 minute game next week.
If it lags as well, I'd have to say either the Adreno 530 isn't all that good, or the game is terribly optimised.
Either way , at the moment I'm underwhelmed by my Platinum flagship phone gaming experience.
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sometimes im playing game in my xz but i dont have really issue in heating or laggy (my phone have nougat version)
maybe your issue because you are in MM, lets try to nougat.
or use custome rom.
I received my XZ (F8331) a few days ago. I don't seem to be experiencing any heat issues when it comes to gaming. Also the stuttering I mentioned for Xperia devices is now almost gone. It's still there, but it's so little that it doesn't bother me anymore.
I've only played 3 games so far:
Skyforce Reloaded
Riptide GP Renegade
Asphalt Extreme
Running the Stability Test app from the Play store, the XZ does throttle down much much sooner than my Z5 (the Z5's heatpipes seems to work really well), but that app puts all CPU cores on full load.
I'm curious about this game Galvatronvs you're playing. I'd like to see if it runs the same on my XZ. Could you point me in the right direction to download this game?
need for speed no limits lag like hell
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need for speed no limits lag like hell
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Hello ,
No problem here , i have try now about 30 minutes and no lag
Check my videos:
Recored the screen:
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Okey i test with "game benchmark"
And no difference between S6 and XZ in game frame rate...
Asphalt8: get 30fps in both devices.
Zombi Highway 2: get 60fps in both devices.
From that test you find:
1) some games locked in lower frame rate, or bad optimized. (asphalt lock on 30fps, zombi highway lock on 60fps)
2) android use "vsync" lock the hardware for limitted fps. Adreno 530 is more powerful then mali T760 (and T880 too!). but there are some software limitations.
3) limited adreno 530 result: gpu not need all his power for reach to 60fps. In my Xperia XZ gpu never reach to 60% load, because not need more load for recive to 60fps.
4) from number#3: none overheating feel when compared with my galaxy s6! s6 need more gpu load for reach to 60fps and gpu core loading heat up the device.
5) unlock software limitations needs custom kernels, and risk of overheating and hardware damage! You don't need more than 60fps for mobile gaming.
6) bad news: Snapdragon 808 can reach to 60fps easily. You can only see "hardware war" between companies. When older SoC can do perfect the end-user works!