Cant decide to buy or not - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can grab one for £38, performance and screen look very good, and the size of the phone is appealing as I have little hands..
now ive looked at some old reviews and the only thing that lets it down is the camera looks very poor, but that was 4.4.2, so have later builds improved the camera performance
cheers guys

The camera performance is limited by hardware and no OS upgrade is going to improve it very much.

Price seems low and may be worth it but N4 is getting really old these days. Camera in N4 is really bad I have to admit and nothing will change it.

The N4 got old
Camera is bad
Battery is bad
I have lag in games such as Hearthstone, Subway Surfer
£38 is a good price though

For £38 I wouldn't even care if the camera is ****.

For that price I'd buy the heck out of it. The camera is decent for simply sharing on Facebook and Twitter, nothing really more than that. If you get the right Rom and Kernel you can get a day's battery life out of it with maybe 20-30% when you plug it in. If you are heavy into gaming, it might not be the right phone but if it's light games like Dots, Fruit Ninja, ect. then you shouldn't have many issues at all.

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honest opinions?

Ive got the xperia x10 which i love now the battery problems are sorted but ive another upgrade due and had a quick play with the galaxy s today. Seemed pretty good but before deciding whether i should take it whats peoples opinions on the battery life and the camera?
The battery on all my android phones hasnt been great but as long as i can happily get a day/day and half out of it with reasonable use i.e bit of music, lot of texts, a little web and a few calls then id be happy with it. Also i notice the camera doesnt have a flash, what are the pics like people have been taking?
Any views would be appreciated. I really liked the look and feel of the phone but a little worried the amoled screen would drain the battery too much.
Its battery life is far better than the X10 (I used to own an X10).
The X10 screen is a bigger battery hog than a Super AMOLED screen, why so concerned with the AMOLED screens battery consumption?
Go to samsunggalaxysforums.com to see lots of user example shots.

my mind changed towards GS2 pls help

i was thinking of getting the sensation but after many complaints of users from the same problems that is going to annoy me like touch screen unresponsive - lag - lock screen problems - bad software by htc
so i m now thinking to get the SG2
but i need the phone for the following reasons :-
1- fast speed and fast performance "no lag at all"
2- games play well on it
3- average battery life
4- good camera
5- sound quality
6- optimized stock software "very important"
and after a small tour in sg2 forums i found some issues people annoyed from it and it is not easy to be ignored
1- many talks about battery issue while some has good battery life and it has resolved ??? Q
2- pink spot on camera ..... does it appear while taking the photo in camera app only or in the taken photo or recorded video ???
3- i was surprised when i saw a complaint of some lag in games ???
4- a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen ??
these are 4 issues i want to be sure about and then i can get the phone
Im on my second SGS2 since the first was stolen after 3 weeks.. all i can say this phone is the best smartphone that exists. However only an idiot would go with touchwiz. That **** is so outdated and ugly, i almost puked when i first got the phone.
Here is what you need to go through if you want to make SGS2 the most awesome phone there is (takes about 20 mins and no rooting is required):
-install GO launcher
-install HD live wallpaper for GO launcher
-install GO SMS
-install GO contacts
-install Widgetlocker
-tweak GO launcher to look how you like
There is absolutely no lag, but there was some with touchwiz since the phone comes loaded with 100 widgets on and Touch**** is very unoptimized still.
All of the above apps are free and updated very very frequently
Games play very well on it (lol it has power like no other).
Camera is very good, not the best, but one of the best in the android world.
Sound is better than good although not the best but almost.
Like i said, i had one for 3 weeks, it got stolen and i bought a new one straight away. Didn't even consider anything else. Nothing comes close to SGS2!
Edit * overall it's the best phone. Nokia might have better cameras but the software is laughable. IOS is stupidly closed and you can't make it really work how you want (customization). SGS2 is the best of Android phones by far!
Hi, you are always always going to find problems with which ever phone you go with, sometimes to you can do too much research. This phone is bloody fantastic, I love everything about it. It kicks the crap out of pretty much everything I thow at it, videos, games apps. Battery life isnt fantastic but what to you expect for a dual core CPU running a 1.2 gig, this is laptop territory.
Most vendors will give you a week, to two week grace on your purchase, get it try it, thats by far the best option.
I came from a HD2, wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it was going to be, I also thought I'd miss the sheer number of ROMS available on the HD2. This phone is in a different league to most other on the market and there are now loads of cooked ROMS to choose from. Got mine Free for £25/month, haven't looked back.
buddy01 said:
Im on my second SGS2 since the first was stolen after 3 weeks.. all i can say this phone is the best smartphone that exists. However only an idiot would go with touchwiz. That **** is so outdated and ugly, i almost puked when i first got the phone.
Here is what you need to go through if you want to make SGS2 the most awesome phone there is (takes about 20 mins and no rooting is required):
-install GO launcher
-install HD live wallpaper for GO launcher
-install GO SMS
-install GO contacts
-install Widgetlocker
-tweak GO launcher to look how you like
There is absolutely no lag, but there was some with touchwiz since the phone comes loaded with 100 widgets on and Touch**** is very unoptimized still.
All of the above apps are free and updated very very frequently
Games play very well on it (lol it has power like no other).
Camera is very good, not the best, but one of the best in the android world.
Sound is better than good although not the best but almost.
Like i said, i had one for 3 weeks, it got stolen and i bought a new one straight away. Didn't even consider anything else. Nothing comes close to SGS2!
Edit * overall it's the best phone. Nokia might have better cameras but the software is laughable. IOS is stupidly closed and you can't make it really work how you want (customization). SGS2 is the best of Android phones by far!
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and so what about battery issue ??? with moderate and heavy use how long does it works ??
and pink spot ..... this spot appear on the recorded video or taken pic ???
There is no pink spot. There was no pink spot on the first SGS2 and not on this second one either. If there is you can take it back and demand a new one immediately.
The battery of my first one lasted maximum of 2 days and some hours.. i can't remember exactly. The second one lasted the same until yesterday when i installed some apps that made something go wrong and it only lasted 5 hours and that was on the night when i didnt even touch the phone. I think some process was left running since i saw from the report that system took 75% of battery by itself at night. I think the app was theft aware 2 (it hides itself as system app so thief's don't delete it). I post this info so that people realize that battery drain is mostly caused by apps from the market.
TL;DR: battery lasts 2 days - 1 day heavy use
believe me ,you're as right as your complain but not so perfect not having it.
it is the best smart phone out there now, am not a sales rep neither do i want to convince you but nothing come so close to perfect in the phone world than the sgs2.
all phones got there one problem or the other but you will surely enjoy this one.........read alot about this and that on the forum also till i got mine and wasn't having those problem,dont ask me what i did to my phone cos i did nothing, just download batiste rom and love it .go for it i advice but let the choice be yours
ok thanks guys
but another Q .... about build quality and heat generation
the outer layer of the body of the phone is easy to be removed by scratches or it is fine and durable ?? this is a major factor that makes me toward sensation first
and what about heat generation is it a related to battery drain and solved or not ??
and does the heat affect the device ??? or it is in the normal range
i know it is normal to phone to get hot when charging or using gps or other hard work but my Q is the generated heat is tooo high that annoy or not ??
buddy01 said:
There is no pink spot. There was no pink spot on the first SGS2 and not on this second one either. If there is you can take it back and demand a new one immediately.
The battery of my first one lasted maximum of 2 days and some hours.. i can't remember exactly. The second one lasted the same until yesterday when i installed some apps that made something go wrong and it only lasted 5 hours and that was on the night when i didnt even touch the phone. I think some process was left running since i saw from the report that system took 75% of battery by itself at night. I think the app was theft aware 2 (it hides itself as system app so thief's don't delete it). I post this info so that people realize that battery drain is mostly caused by apps from the market.
TL;DR: battery lasts 2 days - 1 day heavy use
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Try Samsungdive - doesn't eat the battery and it's built in!
Well, I started off thinking the SGS2 was not for me, then it grew on me, probably Android more than the phone.
Battery life started off pretty bad, but once you sort of a few things like the AP news widget that drains and uses data, etc...Also my battery lasts and charges faster each day, I guess the battery takes a while to get to its optimum, at first I was struggling with the battery life, now I am as happy as I was with my Iphone4.
Games don't lag at all, well at least not for me, I have now rooted mine so as I can use the chainfire 3D drivers to be able to play Tegra games, which run very smoothly indeed, just wish there were more games, but then that's not the devices fault.
I quite like TouchWiz, works well for me, but now I have just read about this Go UI thingy, I might try it out. Something I am finding more and more each day is how terribly addictive playing about with your Widgets and homescreens is, so much to play with and again, not had any lag whatsoever.
The camera is brilliant, much better then the old Iphone4's faster, clearer, quicker to autofocus, can't work out where this pink stuff is though, my photos seem fine.
Music, I use the built in player make sure 5.1 is set and download free Equalizer from the market, simply perfect sounds.
Another thing that I have not found as well is this wake up lag, perhaps I am so used to the slower performing Iphone 4 that I just don't notice these things.
If you want more imaginative and creative games and applications Android is not for you (but its getting there), go the route of Iphone4.
But if you want a super fast, stable, freedom to do what you like, OK games and Apps, general brilliant allround device, the SGS2 is for you.
xdafun4all said:
ok thanks guys
but another Q .... about build quality and heat generation
the outer layer of the body of the phone is easy to be removed by scratches or it is fine and durable ?? this is a major factor that makes me toward sensation first
and what about heat generation is it a related to battery drain and solved or not ??
and does the heat affect the device ??? or it is in the normal range
i know it is normal to phone to get hot when charging or using gps or other hard work but my Q is the generated heat is tooo high that annoy or not ??
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Build quality - IMO : It's very good, there was a video on youtube showing the outer layer being really stretched and it was still like stock after the stretch. And it's anti-stratch(idk how to say), I got no scratch.
Heat generation, while charging it can get very hot, and maybe it get hots sometimes while playing, but I have the feeling it's gone after some times, or you get used to it. It's really bearable.
Battery drain is, for me, solved in XXKG1. Though I can get only 4 hours screen-on time(that's enough for me) with auto-brightness(3 approx. with max brightness), the phone can last a day and a half for me.
I think all smartphone have battery drain problem.
For me... in standby mode 2 days (received some calls)
and 6-8 hours maybe less for heavy use (games+wifi+gps)
but you can use Power saving mode function to save your battery life.
I got the problem about pink spot on my camera but someone said it will be fixed when new rom available.
"a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen" - I saw new 2.3.4 has fix this problem.
arabbitte said:
Try Samsungdive - doesn't eat the battery and it's built in!
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Dive dies when you change sim. I had Dive installed on stolen SGS2 and all it did was say "SIM card has changed" and it didn't give the new phone number of the thief's or nothing. SamsungDive is useless.
Theft Aware still works after Sim change and is way way better in functions.. im not ready to uninstall it yet, but hope to find that the drain is caused by something else.
xdafun4all said:
i was thinking of getting the sensation but after many complaints of users from the same problems that is going to annoy me like touch screen unresponsive - lag - lock screen problems - bad software by htc
so i m now thinking to get the SG2
but i need the phone for the following reasons :-
1- fast speed and fast performance "no lag at all"
2- games play well on it
3- average battery life
4- good camera
5- sound quality
6- optimized stock software "very important"
these are 4 issues i want to be sure about and then i can get the phone
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1- this phone is lag free even on stock TW4. But Launcher Pro Plus is one of teh best alternative launchers for people that liek to change. And LPP won't affect your battery at all
2- I don't game but it is supposed to be one of the best gaming phones. Phone compatibility shouldn't be an issue as it is one of the top selling android phones
3- Battery life is great compared to most smartphones. It will also depend on your use of it. Most phones will be behind it though with such a screen.
4- Camera is one of the best on smartphones. But, of course, don't expect such a small lens to give you something even near to a DSLR or even a high end compact digital, ok!!
5- Sound quality: just like for point 4: don't expect it to replace dedicated hardware for music amateurs (not the RnB deaf generations )
6- I used it all the way on KE2 and since few days official KF3. Stay official and you'll have less issues if you like stock
and after a small tour in sg2 forums i found some issues people annoyed from it and it is not easy to be ignored
1- many talks about battery issue while some has good battery life and it has resolved ??? Q
2- pink spot on camera ..... does it appear while taking the photo in camera app only or in the taken photo or recorded video ???
3- i was surprised when i saw a complaint of some lag in games ???
4- a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen ??
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1- Just select apps you need and don't install every freeware you see just to "consume" apps. Limit auto updating apps, limit auto-starting apps, avoid live widgets and limit most widgets. Just general good sense rules like with any OS in the world.
2- People saying they don't have the issue just don't know how to reproduce it. Yes, it has it, like the SGS1 I tested and many other smartphones. It will appear under some special circumstances. As I said, it's a very small lens and will have some limits under many circumstances, like it is with any lens if you know a little about photography. The spot won't ever bother you most of the times.
3- See my answer above about games.
4- This issue is absent. Most people in forums install any thing on their phone and then complain...
any one have dust under screen ???
it is one of the facts that makes me stop thinking of the sensation
Guys..how about the banding issue..? has the banding issue been addressed by the latest software upgrades? or does angry birds, the battery charging meter and live wallpapers still exhibit banding?
No banding, no dust under screen. I dunno how you could even fit any dust under screen, it's not like iphone 3gs with 5mm between screen and glass. I only had the previous for 3 weeks though and this one is about a week old now.
:O the banding issue has been rectified? could you post a pic of the charging screen or angry birds if possible?
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:O the banding issue has been rectified? could you post a pic of the charging screen or angry birds if possible?
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we need a confirmation is banding issue is solved ??? means it is software or hardware ???

If I don't need a hugely powerful phone, have I made the right choice?

Hi all,
When the N4 was announced I had my GNex up for sale within the hour, sold within two! The more I read about the Nexus 4, the more I am unsure it is actually for me. I do not play games and generally use my phone for browsing the net/forums, google currents, bit of music and social networking (Facebook etc.)
I am now unsure whether I have made the right choice, and whether I should snap-up another Nexus while people are selling them off cheap on the forums ready for the N4 upgrade.
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great!
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.)
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best!
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
The fact that it's "Nexus" also means you get a standard, Android experience, along with guaranteed quick updates (up until the point where the OS won't run smoothly on the device I guess; which should take a while). Other vendors for the most part offer updates slowly, and choose to make the general UI... non-standard (which usually has more downsides)
yeah... am only comparing the two nexus devices as that is all I would buy... love the specs of the S3 and can be picked up mint for about the same price as a new Nexus 4, but couldn't live without the updates
Literally everything is improved. You'll love it no matter what.
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One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
I'm not a gamer either, but that didn't stopped me from getting this I personally think you won't regret getting it, but if you don't like it, you can always just return it and get something else
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
wurzelsepp3 said:
One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
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How much of a difference will custom kernels and ROMs make to the battery life? Roughly? 10% or more?
I know my current Galaxy 3 gives me an improvement of almost 30% with custom firmware, but that's because of removing the samsung bloatware.
I try to get the fastest, most powerful phone or computer out there that's at a reasonable price. By reasonable I mean most power per dollar. The people that say they don't need a super fast phone or computer are usually the ones complaining that Web pages open slow or it keeps freezing and slowing down. The better hardware you get, the longer you will be satisfied with the device. And for this price with this hardware/software? You gotta jump on it. You may not need a phone that could run crysis but if you could get it for the same or cheaper price as a lesser spec'd phone, wouldn't you?
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cyberkid2002 said:
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great! I think we're going to love the build quality. I've said for a couple of years now that if Google could put out a Nexus device that felt like the iPhone 4/4S in the hand, then they'd really be on to something. I believe that's what LG has done here.
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.) IMO, the screen is going to be great. From everything I've read, the screen is just a slight notch below the One X...so that would make it fantastic. And every review I've read that compared it to the GNex screen says that it's MUCH better and much easier to see outdoors in sunlight. This is a major upgrade.
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex. Again, this is something we'll have to wait and see (as everyone's day-to-day use is different), but I've seen a couple of reviews that say the Nexus 4 gets about the same, or just below, the battery life of the S3. If that's the case, then (for me at least), I'm golden. Yesterday I got 5 hours screen-on time on my S3 (50% brightness, stock rooted ROM, power save turned off, etc.) and I still had 23% battery life left. That's pretty darn good!
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see. I think you'll see a major boost, even if you don't need it. Apps will open faster and things will just be snappier. I'd much rather have more performance than I need rather than the other way around.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best! This is the one place where I have to really disagree. The camera is VERY important to me (I use it daily in my job) and the shots I've seen seem to show the camera is a MAJOR upgrade over the GNex. While I didn't find the GNex camera to be awful, it certainly couldn't hold a candle to my S3 camera. If this camera is anywhere near as good as the S3, I'm going to be very pleased.
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
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See my replies above. I believe you've made a great decision. :good:
Engadget has had the most negative response to the battery life of anyone, and they still got 3 minutes longer out of the Nexus 4 than the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming they never fix whatever was causing the poor battery life, you'll see the same as what you get on your Galaxy Nexus.

Looking to buy HAM7

Hi guys,
Looking to buy HAM7...why in your opinions are major good and bad points?
I've read the reviews but you know there are always kinks here and there that don show up on reviews?
My biggest concern is: Battery life and snappy flow of OS without stutter, each stutter makes.my heart skip a beat...wht is your feedback on it?
I'm coming from zenfone6, I liked it but lost it.
There aren't any other 6 inch phones, nexus 6 is bit expensive and ive heard bad stuff about its battery.
Thanks for your feedback
Oh and also browisng, how is that?
My main tasks are browing, social media, mail checks and gaming such as summoners war, clash of clans etc
I'm probably going to change default launcher, I'm not a fan of emui 3 that much.
In short:
Pro: the hardware parts are good.
Con: the software updates are literally quite .. hmmm... confusing.
While I myself use ascend, i'd like to be objective. maybe you want to look also at mi note or note pro ?
phrozenflame said:
Hi guys,
Looking to buy HAM7...why in your opinions are major good and bad points?
I've read the reviews but you know there are always kinks here and there that don show up on reviews?
My biggest concern is: Battery life and snappy flow of OS without stutter, each stutter makes.my heart skip a beat...wht is your feedback on it?
I'm coming from zenfone6, I liked it but lost it.
There aren't any other 6 inch phones, nexus 6 is bit expensive and ive heard bad stuff about its battery.
Thanks for your feedback
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My opinions MT7 is perfect for gaming,media or entertain...I just love my mt7,super fast,not any hanging point while playing game if u get ph call like Samsung. Large batt keep u alive for 2 days with multimedia usage, only gaming time batt take more power...the bad thing only I found that it's Android upgrades...Huawei is one of donkey brand which always fail to keep promise for new upgrades...one thing I noticed mt7 touch screen more improve and smooth to use...
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wavefaster said:
My opinions MT7 is perfect for gaming,media or entertain...I just love my mt7,super fast,not any hanging point while playing game if u get ph call like Samsung. Large batt keep u alive for 2 days with multimedia usage, only gaming time batt take more power...the bad thing only I found that it's Android upgrades...Huawei is one of donkey brand which always fail to keep promise for new upgrades...one thing I noticed mt7 touch screen more improve and smooth to use...
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Hahaha.. exactly. The upgrade part is the real sore point. With so many variations and strict regional validations before you can upgrade. Other than that, this phone is truly a gem
Yes the phone is awesome. It's got an awesome built in battery monitoring app, backup app as good as titanium and its fluid. If you want more power you could set it to a "high performance mode". Battery is superb. What sucks is yeah the updates and the dual sim/micro sd. Btw get the gold edition with 3gb of ram
Just bought one, screen of my LG g3 broken. It beats g3 on every point; great battery life (actually my first handheld that goes - much more- than a day with a charge, much faster than g3, browsing gaming is much better.
And as for updates; I really don't miss the lollipop of the g3 at all.
As prices are quite affordable now, I should say, go and get it!
Does the phone overheat or something?
I know my zenfone 6 would heat too much when playing summoners war.
No heat issue at blitz gaming. browsing or kodi movie watching via WIFI - 32gb iso is smooth and cold.
Playing a lot (right now Halflife port), and NEVER experienced any heating issue (well with LG g3 before!) - and, no noticeable battery drain (because of the huge battery, of course).
All together, also a great game handheld - Much smoother than G3 was.
Thanks guys, bought it

One year later - do you recommend this phone ?

Hi guys.
One year later the prices are way down. Now LG G6 is 360 euro in my country.
Is about same price as Samsung A8, Nokia 7 Plus or Huawei P20 Lite.
I'd say one year old flagship should be an obvious choice over today's midrangers. Better camera, better cpu. However, one concern looking over this forum is with battery life (low sot, drains).
Seeing how phones have become consumables, no removable batteries, defects occurring after the 2 year obligatory warrant (at least in EU), oled screens loosing a lot of brightness in time ... I'm not willing to pay 800euro for the latest and greatest.
Yes, I recommend this phone. Despite the very poor software support it's good phone for its price. They - LG - are trying to fix their slow (almost nonexistent) update policy - Korea and Canada is already affected (Oreo update). It's fast smartphone with very stable android 7.0 by default with very good battery life.
Even without Oreo or wireless charging I'd recommend this phone but.... it is a bit laggy for the money to recommend.
I'd recommend it only for the camera and the display, because it can be easily bought for 350 euros or less, anything else is just "avarage" imho.
Depends what you want in a phone. If I didn't care for an SD Card, I'd probably get a Pixel 2 (not verizon) for the updates and Dev Support alone. If you don't care about root, then obviously your choices expand a lot more.
This phone will never see android P. If it does, it will be a custom ROM, meaning you'll lose the stock camera quality.
I paid $295 for mine and have no regrets though, so yes, depending on what you're looking for, I would recommend.
Things important for me in a phone:
1. Battery life. Or better said, real life battery life. I would like to have a few hours of SOT on 4G.
2. Also, I'd like the device to operate cool when outside is hot or when the signal is poor . No one is mentioning this in reviews but in my experience is quite a factor.
3. Camera, obviously. Most of my photos/films are taken with my phone for convenience reasons.
Not so important:
1. Display.
2. Performance. Opening/operating chrome without lag should do it.
Certainly I won't play PUBG on my phone. I do play PUBG on occasion on my PC.
3. Storage capacity. I keep mostly books (read them with tts - IVONA) but those don't take a lot of space. For music I have deezer, for movies Netflix. Nothing local. Photos I unload on my PC.
No , it's a Good phone but the lack of security patch is a really bad point. it's a shame because this phone is really nice ! january security update 5 month later still no update...
I am on the April security patch via T-Mobile.
Hardware is OK, but software ...
Overall the phone is incredible. Especially now, when its price is really decent, getting new one is really good idea. Build quality is very high, this phone is clearly built to last and its design is great. The camera is very good, especially with ported GCam apps which boost image quality even more. The display's colors and saturation is great, the display itself is AWESOME (18:9 rocks!)... it's not very bright in direct sun, my Xperia Z3 Compact was much much better, but it's good. UI responsiveness is very good, Snapdraon 821 still kicks a$$ and it's enough for this phone to run nice and smooth
However the phone is not perfect. I've been using it since July and right now I feel that LG should try a little bit to revive it. Oreo is on the way, yes, but it should've happened much earlier. I'm not complaining but this phone was LG's flagship device after all. Also battery life is not very good (battery-hungry display, buggy Android 7.0), my daily SoT is around 3-3,5hrs, I expected a little more from 3300mAh. The display starts to have image retention issues just after one year of using the phone and after short amounts of using the phone overall (none of my previous phones which I've been using for more than two years had this issue). But if these disadvantages are not deal-breakers, buy it! You won't regret it!
EDIT: I forgot about crappy front facing camera! 5MP is waaaay too bad and I highly recommend using GCam for selfies, it boosts image quality DRASTICALLY!

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