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Clash of the titans!

It's been 24 hours since the launch of SGS3. In the forums and the blogs in general, I saw a lot of negativity about the phone. This feels a lot like the iPhone4S situation. I wondered if Samsung actually dropped the ball. I felt it was a decent upgrade, and also something different that Samsung is attempting for first time. In every previous launch event, all they showed was specs, power etc., This time they just concentrated only on services and features. AFAICR, they used the term Android maybe twice and did not even mention the speed of cores. Then I saw this thread about how HOX is so much better. I thought why not do a proper survey w.r.t various parameter. So here it goes:
1] Looks: HTC is better. HOX looks more sophisticated. SGS3 is a "safe" design IMO. Not bad, but nothing extraordinary either. Not a deal-breaker for me.
Verdict: HOX
2] Build quality: Maybe same. Once we have the SGS3 in hand, we can be more sure. But in all probability, both phones should be equal in this respect.
Verdict: Tie
3] Display: More sub-pixel on HOX. Many people don't like PenTile. But at such resolution, I don't think it would be such a big deal. The display in SGS3 is 21% bigger area than SGS2. With this comes 60% more sub-pixels compared to SGS2. So, this should be definitely better than SGS2 display. Note that Sensation had more pixels compared to SGS2 (qHD vs WVGA), still it didn't stop SGS2 to sell few times more than Sensation. Needless to say texts will be crisper on HOX, but SGS3 wins hands down on contrast and black levels. Common folk tend to like the AMOLED screens just for this. As per Anandtech: Take the Galaxy Nexus, subtract the luminance grain, make it a bit bigger, and you have the SGS3 panel.
Note that AMOLED is a big selling factor for common folks. There are only 2 brands in mobile display - Retina and AMOLED. IPS / PLS / SLCD / AVS does not make any difference for general people. I can bet that HD Super AMOLED logo itself will sell a lot more units for Samsung. Plus or no Plus simply won't matter.
Verdict: HOX for XDA-nerds, SGS3 for general public.
4] CPU: Exynos is just too good. Check AnTuTu, BrowserMark, SunSpider.
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AnTutu scores for SGS3 are in range of 11000-12000.
Verdict: SGS3
5] GPU: This is where Tegra3 is left embarrassed.
Tegra3 has a single channel memory controller. Exynos also uses 128-bit internal bus like A15's. While all other A9 uses 64-bit AFAIK.
Verdict: SGS3
6] Audio: Beats is pure meh! Here SGS3 is clear winner just because of the Wolfson DAC. Trust the guru:
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/198149523724439553
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/198151127534018560
Native sampling rate: 44100 Hz. It means music played will be sent as-is to the DAC instead of being processed by a software up-sampling routine as it is on Galaxy Nexus or other devices with codecs accepting only 48000 Hz.
Verdict: SGS3
7] Camera: Both cameras look same. Nothing much known about the sensor SGS3 uses. It's S5C73M3 BSI sensor. Whereas HOX uses the Samsung sensor S5K3H2YX. This was one of sensors in SGS2. HOX has the same sensor used in SGS2. F stop is much better in HTC -- 2 compared to 2.6 in SGS3. But that's just one part of story. We have to check the sensor capabilities. Like I mentioned HTC is using the sensor from SGS2, and SGS3 uses a brand new sensor. And HOX never proved to be best shooter even before the SGS3 launch.
HOX review from GSMarena: The first two charts play to the One X strengths and shows it as a good shooter, though still not the best in the 8MP game. The third chart shows good too, but also some artifacts due to the sub-optimal processing of the One X.
There are other novelties associated with both shooters -- burst mode, best pic, scene selection. It's virtually same here.
Verdict: Still up for debate.
8] Video: SGS3 is clear winner here. HOX does not record in High profile. It records at mere 10 Mbps Baseline whereas SGS3 does High Profile recording at 17 Mbps.
Verdict: SGS3
9] Battery: Bigger and removable battery in SGS3. Also better lithography in 32nm HKMG.
Winner: SGS3
10] Storage: More options for SGS3. Also MicroSD upto 64GB and 50GB dropbox.
Verdict: SGS3
11] RAM: Both 1 GB.
Verdict: Tie
12] Communication: Wi-Fi / NFC / GPS / GLONASS / MHL are same on both devices. SGS3 though have Wi-Fi Direct for real faster data transfer.
Someone can compare the radio / baseband and other related entries.
Verdict: Tie
13] Accessories: Almost same again. SGS3 has Wireless charging. Good for publicity, nothing more.
Verdict: Tie
14] Sensors: HOX has Gyro sensor, G-Sensor, Digital compass, Proximity sensor, and Ambient light sensor.
SGS3 has Accelerometer, Magnetic Field sensor, Orientation + Gravity + Linear acceleration + Rotation, Light & Proximity, Gyroscope, Pressure sensor.
Verdict: SGS3
15] Misc Novelties: These might not matter much for XDA-geeks, but are a good way to attract customer. Lets talk about HOX first - the most visible parameter is Beats audio. Not sure if they include it now, but it's a nice gimmick for consumers.
SGS3 clearly is aiming for a lot of such experiences/services. S Voice, Smart stay, Direct Call, Pop up play, Social tag etc.,
Verdict: SGS3
16] Sense vs TW: Again purely subjective. I can live with both. Each has their own style. I would have liked for more darker theme for TW as it has the AMOLED screen. The colours "pop-out" and shows great contrast level with a darker theme. Would have made better use of the AMOLED screen. Sense, on the other hand should have gone for a more luminous theme. The screen has high Nits value. So brighter theme would be more suitable.
Verdict: Tie
I plan to modify and add items as we discover more about these phones. Comments supporting and opposing any phones is more than welcome.
cheers!

do we really need another duplicate of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634744 ?

Duplicate thread
here or here for general chat

Possible Xperia Z3 Metal Frame Leak

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In addition:
Phone Arena said:
According to the photos below, this is the Xperia Z3's metal frame. It is treated with a PVD coating, which will provide a more corrosion-resistant interface, better impact resistance and resilience to scratches. It is also said to be more environmentally friendly.
The source of the photos claimed that the Xperia Z3 will ignore the QHD-trend, instead opting for a 1080p display, a beefy Snapdragon 805 CPU clocked at 2.7GHz, 3GB of RAM, and a 20.7MP main camera. This doesn't sound like too much of an upgrade over the Z2, but who knows, maybe Sony is working on something special.
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if, and that's a big IF this is legit. It could be a very thin device.
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From the looks of it, it may just be the center part of the frame, not the frame itself. As with previous Xperias, the middle part of the frame gets a different treatment.

I like the omni design more
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QHD is totally useless on screen size lower than 6". You could not see the difference between HD and QHD!! (unless you have bionic eyes )

nreuge said:
QHD is totally useless on screen size lower than 6". You could not see the difference between HD and QHD!! (unless you have bionic eyes )
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Agreed... I for one will be pleased when Sony is the only Manufacturer to run the S805 with a 1080p screen (according to the rumours). The extra performance from the S805 + Adreno 420 should be very noticeable on the 1080p Z3, whereas the QHD displays on the Samsung, HTC and LG flagships will put far more strain (75% more pixels to process) on the GPU, and could put those phones at risk of delivering a perceived decrease in performance, or in the best case scenario a tiny increase. All for a barely noticeable increase in PPI and bragging rights.
That aside, the Z3 is also rumoured to be using much improved anti-glare and reflection filters on the display as Sony's displays have always been more reflective than other manufacturers, as well as a class-leading contrast ratio for LCD displays.
Lastly, the size of these QHD panels is likely to be in the region of 5.5 inches, whereas Sony is sticking with 5.2 and is said to be reducing bezel size "significantly" and slimming the phone down. It's likely that we'll see the Z3 being the most comfortable size.
All sounds good to me.

Don't know if I would like any slimmer phone than the Z2. Its already so thin that I can pocket it without any bulge from the thickness. Any slimmer and I would start to worry it bending. I already do sometimes. Of course the size could be smaller, but having used it for a while, some bezel is actually good, since you don't accidentally touch the screen. If it had no bezel or greatly slimmer bezels, it would cause problems imo. I have no more trouble using it one
handed than the SGS3.
I'm so glad Sony isn't jumping on the QHD wagon. Its completely useless. And I wouldn't want a larger screen.
All this aside, I'm still interested to see what Sony will come up with. TBH the frame is more like a slate of metal, it doesn't go around... Are there more pictures than the two in the article?

[SPECS] Nexus 6 Specifications - Members Thoughts.

Hey all
This thread is discuss the Nexus 6 specifications and general design, feel free to comment on Motorola's latest nexus device.
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Specifications:
Display - AMOLED, 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.96 inches (~493 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU - Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
GPU - Adreno 420
RAM - 3GB
Memory - 32/64GB
Camera - 13MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, optical image stabilization, dual-LED
Secondary Camera - 2MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 3220 mAh
Dimensions - 159.3 x 83 x 10.1 mm
Weight - 184g
Source: gsmarena

big..........

I don't love how obscenely tall+wide it is, but I can live with that, for a 6 inch screen.
However, it is simply too thick and the non-removable battery is too small.
The Nexus 6 is thicker than all its 6-inch contemporaries (Mate 2, Mate 7, Vibe Z2 Pro) and in the case of the latter two, significantly so.
I could even live with this thickness if it packed a huge battery, but it does not. All 3 of those contemporaries have batteries that are at least 25% larger. People are quick to point out that the Nexus 6 has the same capacity as the Note 4. Well, this same battery is powering a .3" larger screen in the Nexus 6, and unlike the Note 4, is non-removable.
I am a huge lover of Nexus devices. I love everything about the stock Android, developer friendly devices. But I will very likely not be getting this new Nexus, after owning every iteration beginning with the Galaxy Nexus.

the note also has to power the wacom digitizer, and is a lot more software heavy which will put extra strain on the battery

Too Big !!! to handle ...
Screen size should really not exceed more the 5". 5" is good enough for a smart fone

It's going to be big, but I will get used to it. I just can't pass up a Nexus phone with those specs.
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Pretty neat tool to compare its size.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
With the case I have on my Nexus 5, its not that much bigger. I may have to go caseless tho.

Specs to add:
Wireless Charging + Turbo Charging
F2.0 Camera
10.1mm thickness with a curved back. It's razor thin on the sides.

Compared to the iPhone6+, Iphone6, and MotoX (2013).
Honestly, I am hyped and I cannot wait to upgrade from my N4 to this!

Love Back Camera Style
Nexus 6 is good in features. It has large screen, latest Android and all other stuff but the thing that I liked the most is camera representation.
Like apple , Nexus should go with a logo.

Sorry as much as I like nexus based phones I will not buy any phone without an SD
card slot.

Love the phone, but my first impression after a week is that it was built upside down.
The heavier, thicker part feels better in the palm of my hand, rather than at the top where the device ends up feeling top-heavy.

davanw said:
Love the phone, but my first impression after a week is that it was built upside down.
The heavier, thicker part feels better in the palm of my hand, rather than at the top where the device ends up feeling top-heavy.
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Your so right. I just flipped mine upside down and it's way easier to handle. Oh well. I still like it.

Nexus 6 screen issues
Mahapederdon said:
Your so right. I just flipped mine upside down and it's way easier to handle. Oh well. I still like it.
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Flipping is a good idea.
I got the idea to check the lcd_density in Lollipop..
Google set this value to 560 dpi for the Nexus 6.
I do not understand that, because the native dpi of the N6-display is 493.
Changed the density from 560 to 493.
Result: better screen, smaller icons. Room for 5 columns instead of 4.
(Now looking for an idea to change the white background to black and characters to white).

Just Love It
Im coming from a nexus 5 - OPO...... After using it for more than a month,
I really love the screen and its size, Actually the smaller bezel on the bottom makes sense to me. when the nav bar is visible it looks as if the bezels are completely balanced. I like the design and the curves but after seeing some phones with damaged plastic backs Im very concerned about it now. I dont see my self selling this until the next nexus. Sorry about my english.

what i can say is without a doubt ill never go back to another type of phone. i cant believe i waited to long to find this out. how you can flash away without the risk of bricking, and the phone complaining about the software being changed. incredible

Front facing speakers are now a must have feature for me, absolutely love them!

i like
Like it, new system for me

mrturcot said:
TBH I wish it has the Snapdragon 810 with ARMv8-A (64-bit architecture) as it has a lot of new features and performance/battery improvements over the older ARMv7 (32-bit architecture). Other than that im super happy! I guess something to look forward to for the next Nexus, 64 BIT PROCESSING!!!
BUT THAT CHARGING THO!! 0-50% in like 15-20mins!!
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Wasn't the concern about the Snap 810 was overheating?
Either way the phone goes beast mode through anything.
Charging is definitely where its at though!

big feel heavy IN hand，screen wide enough for me

Z5 Compact...my first impressions

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Price: price € 599 but is already at lower prices, I have bought at € 479 including shipping.
Aesthetics: here we lack the glassy and pure aesthetics of the little brother Z3C, but it is more user-friendly
Edges: using really good and the edges are perfect for its use
Key fingerprint sensor: a true MUST is super easy
Screen: display technology of adaptive contrast is very effective, adapting to the ambient brightness. In full sun or shade, the screen remains readable.
Applications: latest version of Android 5.1.1 and Lollipop usual bunch of pre-installed applications: Music, Videos, Xperia Lounge, etc., along with Facebook and 11 Google applications, but most of them can be uninstalled. The most important applications are Sony Socialife, LifeLog, Smart Connect and Xperia Lounge.
Radio: There is also a radio antenna for FM radio, which is easy to use and listening is good
Performance: The Compact Xperia Z5 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 64-bit processor (MSM8994) with four cores running at 1.5 GHz and four 2 GHz with Adreno 430 GPU. It has 2 GB of RAM and 32 GB of internal memory and supports microSD cards up to 128 GB. It seems that Sony has learned from Z3 + and has done a great job of optimizing the operating system so that the hardware does not overheat, even launching many applications, I tried everything. The benchmarck I threw it does surpass almost every cell.
Audio: I would say good but not reach high volumes as I like it, certainly distorts everything
Camera: The camera is in fact a bomb has a 23 MP Exmor RS sensor and a super-fast autofocus of 0.03 seconds. Very bright colors, showing excellent contrast between light and dark. I made several pictures and I must say that is impressive. I also tried the manual settings, but those machines already give an excellent result. Exceptional auto-focus that automatically changes the focus of an image based on the proximity to the object ... of course you have to get used to. The video camera has a new function 'Image Stabilization ", which helps to reduce flicker of classic video handsets.
Battery: I have installed all the applications that I used before with the Z3C. I set the screen brightness to 70%. After 24 intense hours, with about six hours of screen-on, the battery had not been exhausted and still had 18% (estimated at about 5 hours) ... truly portentous battery! Present as the Z3C mode Sony Xperia Stamina and power saving mode ultra.
Final opinion:
Sony has provided the same CPU, GPU, camera and audio quality as a premium device in this "little one" and again I can say it is the best around. Battery life is the highlight.
Positives
✓ Compact
✓ Stereo Audio
✓ Fingerprint Sensor
✓ Can unistall bloatware app
Bad
✕ HD screen average
✕ Less "pure" than Z3C
✕ Expensive
To root and recovery will have to wait a while, because you can not use the exploit of kitkat and schedule type iroot or kingroot
The Z5C now has an option to check / uncheck OEM Unlock (bootloader). Tap several times on BuildNumber in 'phone' and then go to the options developer
It would seem that now has a chance to keep the key that opens the DRM after BL, although the family Z5 is not yet listed on the website of the developers of Sony, so I can not confirm .... Perhaps a new chapter is on the way... (thank to shafiq01)
User guide
This is my set of accessories:
Battery charger (1 hour!)
http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00RD0U6IQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
Cover
http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B014J5MLF8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
Tempered glass
http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B015UHVPH4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
All tested by me
My personal test battery:
Hispanico
Benchmark battery:
Comparison photos : Z5C, S6 Edge e Z3C

Nice quick review! Please post some photos on the photos thread!

I never normally go with smaller versions of phones. I had the z3+ before this and just couldn't wait for the standard z5. My oh my I'm glad I didn't. This thing is an absolute beauty.
Easily one of the nicest looking and feeling phones I've ever used. Really happy with it!

agree. What I can add here is that Z5c is more slippery than z3c so looking for some skin on the back (dbrand) to give some grip. Despite thanks a great phone, glad I bought it.
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Still here the audio distorsion at high volume during call and ringtones like z3c?

nope

Thanks for this! Getting mine today. I'm hyped!

supercakefish said:
Thanks for this! Getting mine today. I'm hyped!
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Yep, mine should be arriving today as well. Fingers crossed!

[SPECS] Samsung Galaxy View Specifications

Hey all
This thread is for general discussions regarding the specifications and design of the Samsung Galaxy View. I'll kick off with the specifications, members are free to comment on the uses they intend for this mammoth tablet.
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Specifications:
Display - TFT LCD, 18.4 inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels (~120 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Exynos 7580
CPU - Octa-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU - Mali-T720MP2
RAM - 2 GB
Memory - 32 GB
Camera - 2.1 MP, 1600 x 1200
Secondary Camera - N/A
Sensors - Accelerometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.1
Battery - 5700 mAh
Dimensions - 451.8 x 275.8 x 11.9 mm
Weight - 2.65 kg
source: gsmarena

The battery is kind of a deal breaker to me, even a 10.1 tablet can have 7000mAH
WTF Samsung

lol that is bad

I sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo am not going to buy this... Tab S / S2 have better specs!?!?

Never mind that screen...

RAM spec is waay to low. Battery capacity is bad. And sceeen should be tab s quality

What are you guys comparing it to? As a tablet it's a fail. But that's not how it's being marketed. As a movable TV and entertainment device its specs are fine. The display at 127 PPI makes it painful for close-in reading but 1080P at a distance looks great. Eight hours of battery life is also decent considering no one is going to be using a GV as their primary consumption device due to its complete lack of portability.
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I didn't let specs get to me for me to decide if I was going to get this tablet. I use it to stream YouTube, Netflix etc etc. Works very well for that.

The battery works fine for me.

Samsung Galaxy is a series of Android-powered mobile computing devices designed, manufactured and Samsung Electronics. I love Samsung products. But I have not use Samsung smartphone till now, But looking forward to buy it. But My first concert of Samsung Galaxy, good performance and battery backup. Last couple of year. I have seen that Samsung mobile market was getting down. But It is again catching it uses in India. Thank to online e Commerce site those who are offering smartphone with discount and exchange offers.
Samsung Galaxy On7 & On5 android smartphone. It was announced in the month of October 2015. It features 3G, 5.5 inch capacitive touchscreen,13 MP camera, Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, 1.5GB RAM and 8GB of internal storage that can be expanded up to 128GB via a microSD card.

Anyone has access to stock rom?
I'm looking for T677A stock rom.... can anyone help?
ForumNinja said:
Hey all
This thread is for general discussions regarding the specifications and design of the Samsung Galaxy View. I'll kick off with the specifications, members are free to comment on the uses they intend for this mammoth tablet.
Specifications:
Display - TFT LCD, 18.4 inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels (~120 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Exynos 7580
CPU - Octa-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU - Mali-T720MP2
RAM - 2 GB
Memory - 32 GB
Camera - 2.1 MP, 1600 x 1200
Secondary Camera - N/A
Sensors - Accelerometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.1
Battery - 5700 mAh
Dimensions - 451.8 x 275.8 x 11.9 mm
Weight - 2.65 kg
source: gsmarena
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works great with Kodi and IPTV

funmuster said:
I'm looking for T677A stock rom.... can anyone help?
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Stock Rom is on sammobile. Just type in your model and look for your varient, e.g. Turkey

my battery time on my view is better than my tab pro 12.2.