I just wanted to post a thread showing my gratitude to the devs that this phone and the android community in general have. I greatly appreciate the things that you talented group of people can do. I am looking into and starting to learn some of the basics on building a ROM but I am not any kind of dev.
The real talent here are the ones that have been building ROMs for us because they enjoy doing it. So to anyone that considers themself a dev... THANK YOU!
I know other people have said this before but recently there has been a lot of misuse of dev threads and some annoyed developers and mods.
So I just wanted to thank these guys for doing what they do and spending the time they do making our phones great.
To all of us that aren't developers or are budding developers, be PATIENT and read the threads before you ask a question and post in the correct thread.
THANKS again to all the developers
I would like to invite you to join ZF2 Community. I started it to be able to communicate at a faster pace and get support and help quicker. Please keep it civil, that doesn't mean that you can't use foul language but none towards other members. Also any info, videos, deals or anything you find of relevance is welcomed. That being said, here it is: https://plus.google.com/communities/111215129850707402143
As a member of XDA and a fellow user and somewhat acquaintance of the S.I.X. ROM dev, I feel this is a necessary post. Frankie (the dev) put a lot of hard work into S.I.X. ROM and some individuals seemed to not like that he on his own was able to make one of, if not the first functional Android 8 ROM for the N6.
I'm ashamed to be part of the XDA community right now as a result of all this. I thought we were better than this...
The point of a community is to work together to make progress, not attack those who get somewhere first because you are jealous.
Very well said. After 8 years here, I'm still amazed at the childishness of some supposed "senior" members and "contributors." Pettiness is the death of innovation.
Unfortunately this happens quite often on XDA. The people who originally figure stuff out get pushed out by kangers who want to "see" the code, claiming open source and license rule violations.
It's the interwebs, that the way it is. Your going to get trolls no matter what the subject is or what forum (Sports, Android, Gaming, Politics etc) your visiting.
Some of you act like you've never seen a troll, get your head out of the sand..........JEEZ!!!
EDIT: A Mod should close this thread because it serves no purpose whatsoever
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The Xda community has well over 7 million members.
Just like families of 6 or 10 have crazy uncles and weird cousins, there is NO WAY to remove all the craziness from a 7 million member community.
So while certain Roms or specific development areas DO have trouble, animosity, jealousy, kanging, etc, it is by and large a SMALL percentage of the Xda community.
As far as this specific situation; this won't be the first dev to pull their work and it won't be the last. Facts are facts.
There is absolutely NO WAY to keep every dev of kernels, Roms, apps, mods, etc. from being offended by something, someone, somewhere during their time with Xda, most of the time it's legit, sometimes it's just petty (devs are people too)
With that being said, the Moderation staff, which are all volunteers (just like the devs) work daily to remove, and reduce those who cause trouble within Xda.
The absolute BEST thing EVERY member can do is REPORT trouble, trolls, problems, and NO ENGAGE them in the threads when they come to town.
A large amount of thread troubles occur when well intending regulars of the thread engage trolls and troublemakers, and suddenly there are 4 pages of insults, attacks, disrespect. What dev wants to deal with that when they do this for free and for fun?
The reasons devs pull their work can be vast and multi-tiered, and no one can control the outcome of that except the devs themselves.
The more GOOD members who maintain their composure and follow the rules by NOT engaging in off-topic, troll chasing, the easier it is to identify, and remove the troublemakers, and the less trouble threads will have overall.
If 6.9 million members don't feed the .1 million trolls, they'll stop trolling... No private community will EVER be free of trolls, it's impossible as sometimes good members go tot he troll side and there is NO WAY to stop that prior to it happening.
So to you good members who respect the devs and the Xda community, do your part and follow the rules, report the trolls don't feed them, and we can all offer those who dev and assist in threads, the best atmosphere possible (which will never be perfect) to share, develop and enjoy this thing we call Xda.
Unfortunately, threads like this, no matter how well intended, only invite MORE drama and add more fuel to the troll fire, so it is being closed.
Thank you for your cooperation
tl;dr Xda is a HUGE community. You good members work at being the best part of Xda by following the rules, and not feeding the trolls. Let the Moderation Staff handle the troublemakers. Continue to help your fav dev with bugs and show them respect, say thank you a lot (it's free) and throw them a bone once in a while.
Watchout for their telegram group admins don't accept other opinions. They discriminate don't tolerate people and will ban you for your opinions. They have no mental capacity to have reasonable discussion about broblems they have.
There's definitely some unnecessary power tripping and putting people down of those who are trying to ask questions.
However, there are also a lot of people who don't do their own research through these forums looking for simple answers that they can find on their own. And then, when people do help them, they don't even say thanks.
I think Telegram may be preferred because XDA forces people to be respectful. And yet, on XDA, we still see waste and noise brought on by people who post irrelevant replies or ask questions that could have been answered with a simple search, or reading a few pages of the thread. This is frustrating. On Telegram, people can vent a little about this, but it does make the environment toxic. Can definitely be a WTF for those with questions that are being respectful.
I just wanted to follow progress in telegram group so I was rightfully mad since I couldn't get to the group for 2days - that's ridiculous. When I did they banned me for daring to question that. And another user who supported me too. No apology not even sympathy. And after they ban users they get even lower. Admins start to spam the group with big ridiculing gifs mocking and insulting them about how they banned someone, and some of their weaker minded sheeps join them. That's disgusting. This is BTW against their own rules. They are lowest of the low I have ever seen.
Thanks for saying it out loud, their telegram community is the most useless Rom community I've seen, they won't help you with anything yet they make fun of you.