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Hey...have mine shipping Friday.
I intend on doing what I did with my SGS2 on ATT and that is get it set up on prepaid $50mo unlimited. They sent me my sim card without getting my imei# last time.
Not so now ....they've become adamant about this now.
I'm going to use my imei from the Note...but just tell them its an old unlocked Raze or something .Since its GSM....they can't tell I think.
Does anyone know if there's anything/code in these #'s that indicates whether or not its a smartphone or not. (Smartphones not allowed on these plans).
Thanks
As you are aware ATT doesn't sell international galaxy Note's so when they see the Notes IMEI register on their network OLAM will not know what device it is when it cross references its device list.
This is why you can have the $10 medianet unlimited plan when you use an unlocked, unbranded phone that AT&T doesn't offer. It will work exactly the same way as unbranded Nokias and the gt-19000.
but where do you get the sim card from? they send it to you?
Buy the cheapest phone they offer. When they ship the phone to you simply use that SIM card in your unlocked unbranded device.
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Buy the cheapest phone they offer. When they ship the phone to you simply use that SIM card in your unlocked unbranded device.
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Also other idea:I buy two SGSII for 200.00US and sell on ebay for 450.00 for downpayment for the Note
Good stuff guys!!
I am on T-Mobile right now and I am thinking of
1. Removing my unlimited data plan from TMo
2. Go to their lowest monthly plan just for the calls ( i wud not want to totally get rid of TMo for now)
3. Get a new AT&T plans, with a descent phone
4. Sell the phone eBay/Craigslist
5. Fwd calls from my Tmo # to AT&T
6. Use Note with AT&T
Just waiting for Note to launch in more European countries which MIGHT bring down a price little more (I hope)
Thank you.
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As you are aware ATT doesn't sell international galaxy Note's so when they see the Notes IMEI register on their network OLAM will not know what device it is when it cross references its device list.
This is why you can have the $10 medianet unlimited plan when you use an unlocked, unbranded phone that AT&T doesn't offer. It will work exactly the same way as unbranded Nokias and the gt-19000.
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Don't they sell GoPhones at Best Buy?
Will the note access the 21G Hspu+ using those sim cards????
QUOTE=inurb;18953686]Buy the cheapest phone they offer. When they ship the phone to you simply use that SIM card in your unlocked unbranded device.[/QUOTE]
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Also other idea:I buy two SGSII for 200.00US and sell on ebay for 450.00 for downpayment for the Note
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WHy not just buy 2 iphone 4s for 400 and sell it for around 600
I usually take a 50% commission fee for something like this
You already owe me 150 $.
drgopoos said:
WHy not just buy 2 iphone 4s for 400 and sell it for around 600
I usually take a 50% commission fee for something like this
You already owe me 150 $.
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Nice sorry i forgot the commissionwhy galaxy because i don't like the iphones
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So i can just get one of those Gophones for like $20 and simply switch over the sim card to the Note?? It's as simple as that and i don't need to do anything else? Also if i do this, will i be able to port my existing verizon number over to at&t?
If I'm already on AT&T using a Nexus One, can I shift my existing number to prepaid if I get some crap phone?
I just bought an unlocked Nexus 4, but am currently on a non-data plan with ATT. After I attempt to cut my regular size sim card and fail, I'll have to head down to the ATT store. The thing is, I would like to try and leave data off on my phone and not add data to my plan, and use my Nexus like this until my contract is up and I can switch to T-Mobile. My question is, what can I tell the ATT rep to get them to give me a micro sim without them wanting to see the phone I'm going to stick it in and subsequently add data to my plan?
What I do with Rogers here, I just go in and ask to buy a microsim. Take it home and call in and say you want to update you iccid(number on sim card). If they ask why on the phone I say I damaged my old one and bought a new one. If they ask in store why I just say I am buying one for a friend
Do you know how much they will charge? From searching around, they would likely give me on for free if I can word it right...
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Do you know how much they will charge? From searching around, they would likely give me on for free if I can word it right...
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I don't know, I'm guessing $10 maybe
I have att. I just went into the store and said I need a microsim and without any questions or concerns the guy just proceeded to give me one so I think you should be fine. Unless micro sim is exclusive to smart phones, they aren't going to ask to see your new phone.
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ATT wanted $26 for a new SIM from me. So I walked over to the T mobile store and bought one for like 10 by buying 3 pay as you go days worth. I then used that Sim as template to cut down my old att Sim with a kitchen knife.
If I wasn't on the cheep with a family plan on ATT I'd be on T-Mobile in a heartbeat.
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Just say you need a new sim that's what I did and go it for free.
Just a heads up AT&T does regular IMEI sweeps. They also have the play store Nexus 4's IMEIs on file as smartphones so eventually they'll force a data plan on you.
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Just a heads up AT&T does regular IMEI sweeps. They also have the play store Nexus 4's IMEIs on file as smartphones so eventually they'll force a data plan on you.
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This. A thousand times this. You may get away with it for a while, but short of changing your IMEI (illegal I believe), you will get caught.
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Don't have ATT, but the other day when I got the phone I just went to the T-Mobile store and they had a little tool that will cut your sim to a microsim for you
Is there a way to tell the difference between a T-Mobile USA Nexus 4 sold by T-Mobile vs one that was sold directly from Google or someone else? I'm looking to buy a used Nexus 4 but with the latest trend of people buying phones from T-Mobile on payment plans and not paying then T-Mobile blocking the IMEI I'd prefer a used phone that was bought directly from Google and not from T-Mobile.
Any way to tell based on SKU, serial #? Thanks...
I can't answer your question about telling the difference, but when I sold a sprint phone on craigslist the guy wanted to meet up at a sprint store and make sure everything was in the up and up.
Maybe you could arrange a meet up at a t-mobile store
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I can't answer your question about telling the difference, but when I sold a sprint phone on craigslist the guy wanted to meet up at a sprint store and make sure everything was in the up and up.
Maybe you could arrange a meet up at a t-mobile store
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That sounds like the safest way to go buying a used phone.
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Is there a way to tell the difference between a T-Mobile USA Nexus 4 sold by T-Mobile vs one that was sold directly from Google or someone else? I'm looking to buy a used Nexus 4 but with the latest trend of people buying phones from T-Mobile on payment plans and not paying then T-Mobile blocking the IMEI I'd prefer a used phone that was bought directly from Google and not from T-Mobile.
Any way to tell based on SKU, serial #? Thanks...
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they are exactly the same, from tmobile and the play store. theres nothing differing between the phones. the only thing different is where you buy it. tmobile could block the imei if you bought it from the play store too, if they had reason. when your phone goes onto the tmobile network, the imei number registers.
The T-Mobile Nexus 4 is the exact same phone as the phone purchased through the play store... They are both Unlocked and can be used on any gsm network... I would guess the only difference is that T-mobile can block the IMEI from being used on their network.. So if you buy one I would check with T-mobile and verify the IMEI or serial number with them to see if it is purchase through them... Same with the google phone.. I would think you could verify the IMEI through them
It's the same phone. However, T-Mobile only sells the 16gb model.
I'd actually say it is safer to buy a tmo model and check in store that there are no negative marks on the account before purchasing, with a google play model you can try calling ATT/Tmo to check the IMEI but who knows how long it takes for a stolen phone to show up in the database.
Buy it directly from Google play store. It's cheaper than tmobile.
Buying from a person doesn't fulfill your warranty either. Warranty is for the person who bought the device (there are ways around it but it's not worth the risk). No difference between tmo and the one from play store except tmo only offers 16gb whereas play store offers 8 and 16
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Thanks all! I'm looking at the 8GB one so I guess that won't be from T-Mobile...they told me IMEI was not blocked on their end (at this point at least) and I'll check with AT&T...I think for any provider to block it if the phone was purchased from elsewhere other than the carrier someone would have to report it stolen but I'm looking to buy one off ebay so I should have documentation if anything happened?
My main concern was it gets blocked for someone not making their payments if they bought it right from T-Mobile...but I suppose one could report it stolen and if they have insurance they could get another phone and the one they sold would get blocked?
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Thanks all! I'm looking at the 8GB one so I guess that won't be from T-Mobile...they told me IMEI was not blocked on their end (at this point at least) and I'll check with AT&T...I think for any provider to block it if the phone was purchased from elsewhere other than the carrier someone would have to report it stolen but I'm looking to buy one off ebay so I should have documentation if anything happened?
My main concern was it gets blocked for someone not making their payments if they bought it right from T-Mobile...but I suppose one could report it stolen and if they have insurance they could get another phone and the one they sold would get blocked?
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If they bought the phone from T Mobile then it wouldn't be the 8GB version. T Mobile ONLY OFFERS the 16GB variant.
Like I said before, I recommend that you do not buy it from any random user off of eBay or Craigslist. I've seen posts on the N4 forum where someone bought from Craigslist in person and then BAM! a couple weeks later, their phone was IMEI blacklisted and they just put down +$200 on a phone that is now a brick when it comes to having any cellular connectivity.
Only Play Store or through a friend/family member that you can trust are the viable sources I would go for when it comes to buying a phone from a third-party. Play Store is the safest way on getting your device.
umm googles is carrier unlocked right, T mobiles is surely not
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umm googles is carrier unlocked right, T mobiles is surely not
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T Mobile Nexus 4 is carrier unlocked. Its not worth getting from T-Mobile. Their new plan, you still end up paying more for the Nexus 4 when compared to getting it from the Google Play Store.
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008238
Lets do the math:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Nexus-4
Down Payment:$ 49.99
Monthly Payment: +$17.00 for 24 months
Down payment$49.99
Or pay in full today at checkout$457.99
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T-Mobile (2 Year): $49.99 + $17 * 24 months = $457.99 (end of 24 months)
Google Play Store (Unlocked): $299.99 (8GB), $349.99 (16GB) not incl. taxes & shipping. Depending on where you will live 16GB will round out to be ~$405 or so (most likely less in other states as I live in NY and it was $405ish for me). You save yourself ~$60+ T Mobile N4 is a scam.
i got mine from Google, it's the ONLY way to go unless you need to pay for it month to month. Which I understand too.
I got mine for 199 from T-Mobile so that's why I got it from them (I paid for it up front, I don't do the installment payments). That's better then 349 at Google. But I had to use my upgrade. I'm glad I did cause now I don't have any upgrades anymore since the new plans kicked in. I'm on a classic 1000 min plan.
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I got mine for 199 from T-Mobile so that's why I got it from them (I paid for it up front, I don't do the installment payments). That's better then 349 at Google. But I had to use my upgrade. I'm glad I did cause now I don't have any upgrades anymore since the new plans kicked in. I'm on a classic 1000 min plan.
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it is carrier locked right?
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it is carrier locked right?
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Its not. I posted this before
T Mobile Nexus 4 is carrier unlocked. Its not worth getting from T-Mobile. Their new plan, you still end up paying more for the Nexus 4 when compared to getting it from the Google Play Store.
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008238
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Click on the source ^^ someone asked that question
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Its not. I posted this before
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wow that's crazy....I surely thought it was locked to T mobile....good info thanks
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it is carrier locked right?
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I don't think it is. Its a nexus, so I would say no. Lol but at the moment I don't have a another sim card for another carrier to test it.
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I don't think it is. Its a nexus, so I would say no. Lol but at the moment I don't have a another sim card for another carrier to test it.
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You said you used your upgrade, so you paid subsidized price. Which is absurd. $200 subsidized is the same for both the Nexus 4, HTC One, and Galaxy S4. While full price for the HTC and Samsung is around 600, while the Nexus is $299... And T-Mobile rips you off. It's cheaper from Google Play. I thought T-Mobile was trying to "change the game". Stop with the carrier bull****..
Let's think this through, Tmobile only blacklists IMEI's in 2 instances
1) The phone was insured, and reported lost/stolen.
- You can only insure the phone if it was purchased through tmobile. Anything purchased from the playstore is uninsurable
2) You are on a payment plan FOR THE PHONE and it is not being paid.
- For playstore the phone is purchased outright. There is no payment plan. The only way to have a payment plan is if you purchased the phone from tmobile.
If the phone was purchased via playstore, and the TMOBILE phone plan was not being paid, they would just suspend your account, but NOT blacklist your phone.
That said, if you can guarantee that the original owner purchased from the playstore (receipt with IMEI?) then you should be safe.
Does Tmobile only provide the black version? Maybe purchasing a white 16GB guarantees that it's from the playstore?
Anyone else doing this? I have unlimited on one line and have pre ordered a note. I plan on transferring an eligible upgrade from an existing dumb phone line to a 2gb smartphone line to get the note at the upgrade price.
last time I went to best buy, they couldn't do this but that was awhile ago. Never had a problem with costco to do the upgrade swap. I recently did it an upgrade swap with my second line to keep my unlimited data. BTW, costco only charges tax on the sales price on the phone and not tax on the retail price of the phone which is nice.
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Anyone else doing this? I have unlimited on one line and have pre ordered a note. I plan on transferring an eligible upgrade from an existing dumb phone line to a 2gb smartphone line to get the note at the upgrade price.
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You can switch phones as often as you want between lines. However, be careful. I'm currently in quite the argument with Verizon supervisors about some miscommunication between myself and their reps.
I did this for my wife last month to get her the iPhone 6. Well the short version is when I went to put the "dumb phone" back on a basic 10$ add a line (like two different reps ASSURED me I could. And have done it twice in the past) I am now being told the new contracts say you must keep the 2gb 29.99 data plan through the length of the contract, regardless of what phone is on that line.
This is a new practice for them, and total BS because I've had this line for a longggg time. It's been a gigantic hassle while I wait for them to pull the phone calls, etc.
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You can switch phones as often as you want between lines. However, be careful. I'm currently in quite the argument with Verizon supervisors about some miscommunication between myself and their reps.
I did this for my wife last month to get her the iPhone 6. Well the short version is when I went to put the "dumb phone" back on a basic 10$ add a line (like two different reps ASSURED me I could. And have done it twice in the past) I am now being told the new contracts say you must keep the 2gb 29.99 data plan through the length of the contract, regardless of what phone is on that line.
This is a new practice for them, and total BS because I've had this line for a longggg time. It's been a gigantic hassle while I wait for them to pull the phone calls, etc.
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I can use this method online thru vzw.com, if I transfer the upgrade from the dumbphone line (no data) to the 2gb smartphone line it doesn't prompt me to add data to the dumbphone line, it just verifies the 2gb line has data which is obv does. I understand what you're saying though, I saw some update to Verizon's policy at the end of August this year that does state if you add data to a line it must keep data for the life of the contract. Obviously if you were told by 2 reps they could remove it then they should honor it.
If nothing else I plan on doing this, just move the upgrade to the 2gb line. And activate the note 4 on the 2gb line. I'll then go to a Verizon corporate store and have them do a device swap between the 2gb line and the unlimited line device.
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last time I went to best buy, they couldn't do this but that was awhile ago. Never had a problem with costco to do the upgrade swap. I recently did it an upgrade swap with my second line to keep my unlimited data. BTW, costco only charges tax on the sales price on the phone and not tax on the retail price of the phone which is nice.
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I was considering using Costco but the $200 gift card at best buy is such a good deal. I have an old droid x2 which isn't worth $10 @ Verizon or Costco (cannot qualify for the rebate thru Samsung) but is worth $15 at best buy....
I was going to use a phone line with data that is due but the upgrade is available. Best Buy will apply the offer to that line and then switch my sim card for my line into the N4. I say WAS, since without root I will not bother
with the N4. Need card writes for non stock apps. Too many emulator and media apps the access my 128gb card. No card writes means no Note 4 and probably six months to wait for Lollipop that MIGHT have external writes enabled for non stock apps.
With the BB method you MUST have them ship the phone and you activate it with your current UDP sim card.
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You can switch phones as often as you want between lines. However, be careful. I'm currently in quite the argument with Verizon supervisors about some miscommunication between myself and their reps.
I did this for my wife last month to get her the iPhone 6. Well the short version is when I went to put the "dumb phone" back on a basic 10$ add a line (like two different reps ASSURED me I could. And have done it twice in the past) I am now being told the new contracts say you must keep the 2gb 29.99 data plan through the length of the contract, regardless of what phone is on that line.
This is a new practice for them, and total BS because I've had this line for a longggg time. It's been a gigantic hassle while I wait for them to pull the phone calls, etc.
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Wow this is new, if that is the case with costco, then I'm going to switch to Tmobile. Getting tired of Verizon dictatorship and crippling our devices.
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I was considering using Costco but the $200 gift card at best buy is such a good deal. I have an old droid x2 which isn't worth $10 @ Verizon or Costco (cannot qualify for the rebate thru Samsung) but is worth $15 at best buy....
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Yeah, the $200 is nice but was unsure if Best Buy can still retain my unlimited data. Never had a problem with costco swapping upgrade dates. All I know for sure, once I lose unlimited data, I'm switching to Tmobile. Verizon almost got an instant termination from me when they announced throttling but luckily retracted from that.
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With the BB method you MUST have them ship the phone and you activate it with your current UDP sim card.
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Well since I have to pick the device up I'll just have them activate the note 4 on the 2gb line. I won't mention my unlimited data, I'll just go to Verizon corporate store to device swap or swap my SIM cards when I get home
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With the BB method you MUST have them ship the phone and you activate it with your current UDP sim card.
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What conditions? BB will activate it on the line (if data on it already) and then do the switch in store. Fairly common practice by staff at my local store.
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What conditions? BB will activate it on the line (if data on it already) and then do the switch in store. Common practice at my local store.
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Does best buy have extra vzw 4g LTE sim cards? I'm also looking to swap an iPhone onto a line that has data with 3g phone... Thanks
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Does best buy have extra vzw 4g LTE sim cards? I'm also looking to swap an iPhone onto a line that has data with 3g phone... Thanks
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I think the only way it works is if you have a device already with a sim card that fits. Not for sure though, so BB could tell you.
BB told me I can't just take the sim card from my G3, and swap it into the Note 4 when I buy it outright. They have to activate a new sim card that comes with it but they told me it does NOT effect my unlimited data at all.
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BB told me I can't just take the sim card from my G3, and swap it into the Note 4 when I buy it outright. They have to activate a new sim card that comes with it but they told me it does NOT effect my unlimited data at all.
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I hope this is true. I'll find out this week
Edit: nvm I didn't see you were buying the device outright
Sorry, I was less than specific. BB activates the device with a data line with a new sim card for the new device and THEN swaps the user's sim card.
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Sorry, I was less than specific. BB activates the device with a data line with a new sim card for the new device and THEN swaps the user's sim card.
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This is what I was looking for. Thanks!
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Wow this is new, if that is the case with costco, then I'm going to switch to Tmobile. Getting tired of Verizon dictatorship and crippling our devices.
Yeah, the $200 is nice but was unsure if Best Buy can still retain my unlimited data. Never had a problem with costco swapping upgrade dates. All I know for sure, once I lose unlimited data, I'm switching to Tmobile. Verizon almost got an instant termination from me when they announced throttling but luckily retracted from that.
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What do you mean "retracted from that"???
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What do you mean "retracted from that"???
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Verizon was previously talking about throttling unlimited data users. They eventually decided to drop that idea
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What do you mean "retracted from that"???
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http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/02/technology/mobile/verizon-throttle/
http://bgr.com/2014/10/01/verizon-unlimited-data-throttling-cancelled/
Sweet!! I heard a big fuzz about throttling but i never heard they oficially cancelled. I wonder if they also retracted on closing the loopholes to upgrade on dumb lines since both moves were being touted at the same time by big red.
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My girlfriends sister currently has LG G3 with Verizon. She just paid it off and the phone started to go bad. So Newegg had a good deal on 6P 499.99 64GB +free 50$ Newegg GC.
Last week I was able to get the month2month discount back for that line it was really rough,had to tell them if they don't all the lines will be gone to att,which they will sooner or later just waiting for some cell phone deals in bestbuy. Anyways I had the Moto X Pure and what would happen was the discount would fall off because the system would see the phone as unlocked with no image etc.
What's the easiest way to proceed without cutting the current LG G3 sim? I asked the rep to send me a nano sim card. I am just afraid activating a new sim card online on verizon or with rep will trigger the system to remove the discount.
Worst case scenario i'll go to a cell phone store and pay 10$ to cut the micro-sim.
Any tips?
You can go in and get a nano sim and have it activated without them modifying any account.
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You can go in and get a nano sim and have it activated without them modifying any account.
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You mean go with the free sim card sent to any Verizon store and have them activate the sim? I can do the same thing online though. What would be the benefit of doing it in store? the problem is on Share Everything plans those greedy people at Verizon took those discounts away,unless you really try hard to get it back.