Hello!
I would like to know if there is a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the BL?
Could not find an answer in other threads...
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random hero said:
Hello!
I would like to know if there is a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the BL?
Could not find an answer in other threads...
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you need to unlock the bootloader to install custom roms etc. I'm sure you could root the device install a su binary and super user and then easily relock the bootloader with a single command fastboot oem lock. What exactly are you afraid of? It's super easy if you have android sdk installed.
I don't wanna void warranty... and I don't want the related factory reset.
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random hero said:
I don't wanna void warranty... and I don't want the related factory reset.
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Then you won't get root.
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You can backup everything using adb backup (okay there are some app you can't backup with that, e.g. Temple run or Subway Surf) and after unlocking restore the backup
Hi all,
I used to be a hard core iOS user and just boarded on android wagon with my nexus 4 version 4.2.1. I am still learning my ways around android coolness and stumbled upon apps like display control for nexus 4 or titanium backup etc which require root access.
Can I just root and install these apps or any other apps which needs root access without unlocking the boatloader (From what I have heard it will wipe phone and is only useful if there is a need to install custom roms...which I have no use for as of now..just root)
Thanks in advance.
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I'm pretty sure you need to unlock bootloader to root..
I recently rooted and was able to back up everything.. I dont think I lost anything when I restored my backup
You only need to unlock the boot loader if you are going to flash custom ROMs. Other you can leave it locked and just root it.
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The short answer is that you must unlock.
The long answer is that in theory you could achieve root without unlocking but in practice any other method is just too difficult.
No one is going to make the effort when backing up all your files, unlocking, then starting again with an empty phone, is about a million times easier.
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Use a new app called carbon backup. No need for root. It backs up app data etc...
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Backup your apps + data (photos) with titanium backup, then copy the folder to your computer or sync with Dropbox. After unlocking bootloader (wipe) just copy /sync The folder back
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calanizzle said:
Backup your apps + data (photos) with titanium backup, then copy the folder to your computer or sync with Dropbox. After unlocking bootloader (wipe) just copy /sync The folder back
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Titanium requires root
Read this if you want to have root with a locked bootloader.
But you still have to unlock and lock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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I was under the same situation, but part of learning is breaking stuff.
I had to reinstall the stock rom in my phone twice in the first week, and lost all my settings in the process, I would just say that rooting is worth the process and the pain.
And carbon backup does not require root
I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7, and I plan to do the same with my Nexus 4, so I'll go ahead and ask the question here.
Once I unlock and root, could I, and should I relock the bootloader, and if so, will it wipe all data again, but leave it rooted? In other words, I want to root, but have heard that leaving the bootloader unlocked is a bad idea. If the response applies to both my 4 and 7, please advise.
wvcadle said:
I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7, and I plan to do the same with my Nexus 4, so I'll go ahead and ask the question here.
Once I unlock and root, could I, and should I relock the bootloader, and if so, will it wipe all data again, but leave it rooted? In other words, I want to root, but have heard that leaving the bootloader unlocked is a bad idea. If the response applies to both my 4 and 7, please advise.
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Bootloader unlocked may void warranty.
Unlock bootloader. Root phone. Relock bootloader.
But when u install an OTA u have to do the same process again because
u lose root.
Unjustable said:
Bootloader unlocked may void warranty.
Unlock bootloader. Root phone. Relock bootloader.
But when u install an OTA u have to do the same process again because
u lose root.
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If I unlocked, rooted, but didn't relock, will relocking wipe my tablet/phone again?
wvcadle said:
If I unlocked, rooted, but didn't relock, will relocking wipe my tablet/phone again?
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I believe it's only when unlocking. But can't tell 100% sure
Thanks to all folks for taking the time to contribute here.
OK..so what I am hearing is that I can unlock the boot loader for root but that's not mandatory. Correct? Is not t advisable ?
Also will I lose ota updates if I
1) just root, no unlocking boot loader
2) root + unlocking boot loader
Again I have no idea on androids world of custom Roms and kernels
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anx.sap said:
Thanks to all folks for taking the time to contribute here.
OK..so what I am hearing is that I can unlock the boot loader for root but that's not mandatory. Correct? Is not t advisable ?
Also will I lose ota updates if I
1) just root, no unlocking boot loader
2) root + unlocking boot loader
Again I have no idea on androids world of custom Roms and kernels
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You need to unlock bootloader to root. I don't believe there's an exploit for rooting with a locked bootloader for jellybean.
You won't lose ota if you unlock and/or root. Just make sure the phone is only rooted and no system files are modified
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anx.sap said:
Hi all,
I used to be a hard core iOS user and just boarded on android wagon with my nexus 4 version 4.2.1. I am still learning my ways around android coolness and stumbled upon apps like display control for nexus 4 or titanium backup etc which require root access.
Can I just root and install these apps or any other apps which needs root access without unlocking the boatloader (From what I have heard it will wipe phone and is only useful if there is a need to install custom roms...which I have no use for as of now..just root)
Thanks in advance.
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You need to unlock the bootloader if you want to root. But you can side load apps (Not using Play Store) without rooting.
Unless the app requires root for the app to function correctly.
Thanks so much guys. I went ahead and unlocked the boatloader followed by root. I used the wugfresh toolkit and it was a cakewalk. I didnt install any custom recovery.
The only problem is dolphin browser beta has stopped working now. It was great before.
Also, should I re lock the boot loader...and how.
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I found the cause. The ad block plus app is no blocking the dolphin beta browser.
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You only need to re lock it if you return it for warranty. The stickies have many guides showing how.
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juicyjones said:
You only need to re lock it if you return it for warranty. The stickies have many guides showing how.
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+ back to stock first
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the version is still 1.7.2. if you have nrt 1.7.2 installed, just connect to net and start nrt, which will update automatically. the rooting process is exactly the same as for jss15q. customized recovery is just optional. you can keep the original recovery with rooted jss15r. but unlocking bootloader is a must
http://wugfresh.com for more details
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gcd0318 said:
the version is still 1.7.2. if you have nrt 1.7.2 installed, just connect to net and start nrt, which will update automatically. the rooting process is exactly the same as for jss15q. customized recovery is just optional. you can keep the original recovery with rooted jss15r. but unlocking bootloader is a must
http://wugfresh.com for more details
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I noticed. Thanks!
I unlocked and rooted once before upgrading to JSS15R
It turned out that after upgrading to JSS15R, I don't have root access
Do I need to unlock again before rooting?
Will all my data be gone after rooting?
Thanks!
peter19220 said:
I noticed. Thanks!
I unlocked and rooted once before upgrading to JSS15R
It turned out that after upgrading to JSS15R, I don't have root access
Do I need to unlock again before rooting?
Will all my data be gone after rooting?
Thanks!
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once unlock, always unlocked, unless you lock again. This root would not affect to your app data at all
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gcd0318 said:
once unlock, always unlocked, unless you lock again. This root would not affect to your app data at all
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Thank you very much!
I know it actually but I just wanna make sure
peter19220 said:
Thank you very much!
I know it actually but I just wanna make sure
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I used wug but when using your latest version of SU 1.65 I could never get root. I finally booted into TWRP and flashed SU 1.5x and it worked! Don't know why the newer version wouldn't work. Then, after booting it updated itself to the newer version of SU. Go figure.
jyams said:
Then, after booting it updated itself to the newer version of SU. Go figure.
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Thanks for the hint.
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Does the new root method mean new unlocked bootloader methods? or is the bootloader itself the problem and not root?
Thank you for your patience and answering me.
toxict33n said:
Does the new root method mean new unlocked bootloader methods? or is the bootloader itself the problem and not root?
Thank you for your patience and answering me.
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Root only. Boot lock is another, much,much tougher, animal.
toxict33n said:
Does the new root method mean new unlocked bootloader methods? or is the bootloader itself the problem and not root?
Thank you for your patience and answering me.
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Like Avi said, two totally different things. There was an update in May and it also blocked root and the unlock method. They were able to gain root again, but the BL is much more involved.
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
Cool thanks. What can I do with root on 9.18.94 with a locked boot loader?
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toxict33n said:
Cool thanks. What can I do with root on 9.18.94 with a locked boot loader?
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You can install SafeStrap and install another stock ROM on slot 1. Then, you can use Xposed to add all kinds of customization and you can flash a mod that allows init.d to allow you install init.d tweaks. Doing all of this on your safe slot will keep you from messing up your stock slot. If you get everything set up in slot 1 and it runs well, there is a way to restore it on your stock side, but I won't go into that now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45541404&postcount=2
toxict33n said:
Cool thanks. What can I do with root on 9.18.94 with a locked boot loader?
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Good summary Rik...
Yea here are 3 methods about ss. The 1st is normal ss use.
2nd shows the stock slot replacement, once you know all works. 3rd - user who 1st posted the steps
I followed your instructions for installing safestrap but my phone isn't allowing me to create a ROM slot. On any of the slots its just greyed out.
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toxict33n said:
I followed your instructions for installing safestrap but my phone isn't allowing me to create a ROM slot. On any of the slots its just greyed out.
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It is there! I remember facing the same blank moment. I have not used it in a long time...
toxict33n said:
I followed your instructions for installing safestrap but my phone isn't allowing me to create a ROM slot. On any of the slots its just greyed out.
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Maybe you don't have enough space on your internal memory. When you go to create a rom slot, check how much space is required and how much is available
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Hi so when I first got my nexus 7 2013 I unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, everything was fine until I got an ota update, I lost root and I just didn't bother to try rooting it again, I'm currently on 4.4.2 and I believe the boot loader is still unlocked as I have that little open lock when the device is turned on.
What should I do exactly to root my device again? I don't want to lose my data and I don't want to start again but from what I've read the only thing that requires the complete reset is the unlocking of the boot loader so rooting shouldnt effect my data at all?
Thanks
Rooting shouldn't affect your data. Just look in the stickies for a guide to rooting.
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gc84245 said:
Rooting shouldn't affect your data. Just look in the stickies for a guide to rooting.
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Got it rooted thanks