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Why should we update?

Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!

fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.

much better SQ out of headphone jack

justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?

****ing awesome battery life!

fRenZy-_- said:
is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.

aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?

Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.

Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.

seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.

aszrael1266 said:
I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

seh6183 said:
Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..

The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.

I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.

Note 4 edge vzw update

My phone just downloaded an update a few mins ago at about 12:20 pm set haven't heard of anything coming for vzw anybody know what it is I haven't installed it yet
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I downloaded it it was quick install it's nothing really lol. I did hear to get lollipop on Google plus with note 4 there was a small update prior to lollipop so that's my guess in the dark lol

Maybe they've never heard of the Note 4 Edge.

Definitely a small update...this is the "benefits of the update" PDF from VZW's website...
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-note-edge-4-8-15.pdf

stg13 said:
Definitely a small update...this is the "benefits of the update" PDF from VZW's website...
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-note-edge-4-8-15.pdf
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Thanks for finding that as well is it really necessary to take that I looked at the benefits seems unnecessary unless you have volte in your area
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jolly_roger_hook said:
Thanks for finding that as well is it really necessary to take that I looked at the benefits seems unnecessary unless you have volte in your area
Sent From The EDGE
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There is always hope that it is a prep update for Lollipop ...
I took the update earlier today and was interested in seeing how the display of the apps on the Note Edge would be changed / better / optimized / etc but haven't been able to tell any difference for me.

stg13 said:
There is always hope that it is a prep update for Lollipop ...
I took the update earlier today and was interested in seeing how the display of the apps on the Note Edge would be changed / better / optimized / etc but haven't been able to tell any difference for me.
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Alright thanks for the info and info on how it affected your edge screen
Sent From The EDGE

Looks like the Edge display no longer shows the transitionan animation when swiping from screen to screen. Also my stock KB has a new ticking kind of sound when pressing the keys.
I like the KB sound, but miss seeing the screen transitioning under the edge display. My desktop feels smaller?

Will the PRIV be rootable?

I got the priv and it's my third day using it and man do I miss my s5, most importantly TOUCHWIZ. I had Samsung since 2010 so it's so weird to me. But my s5 was getting really laggy and slow. I'm kinda regretting the priv because I miss switching batterys, I hate being connected to an outlet and I miss having root. Would the priv be able to get root at least? I wanted something new but this is not my cup of tea. If there's no root then I'll just end getting the note 4 with removable battery and SD slot.

LuisAGee said:
I got the priv and it's my third day using it and man do I miss my s5, most importantly TOUCHWIZ. I had Samsung since 2010 so it's so weird to me. But my s5 was getting really laggy and slow. I'm kinda regretting the priv because I miss switching batterys, I hate being connected to an outlet and I miss having root. Would the priv be able to get root at least? I wanted something new but this is not my cup of tea. If there's no root then I'll just end getting the note 4 with removable battery and SD slot.
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I am also hoping there is a non tethered root method discovered for the Priv. I think there might be but I know it will be difficult. Many well known devs have already commented even before the Priv that root access will become more difficult with MM.
Just curious but what exactly are you missing about touchwiz? I have a several Samsung devices & one of the first things I like to do is rip touchwiz out & either leave functions disabled or replace it with an alternative solution. I just never liked the cost of lag that running pure stock left you with.
If you let us know specifically what your missing we may be able to offer 3rd party solutions you might actually find superior to what you get with touchwiz.

I like the weather and clock all in one and how everything is more simple. This BlackBerry android is really complicated and boring. I never really liked stock Android, Nexus and so on.

LuisAGee said:
I like the weather and clock all in one and how everything is more simple. This BlackBerry android is really complicated and boring. I never really liked stock Android, Nexus and so on.
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The weather and clock combo is a simple fix. You can take your pick of hundreds of options in the PlayStore.
The simple maybe a bit harder. Samsung really did dumb things down on their devices. (apple of Android)

zelendel said:
The weather and clock combo is a simple fix. You can take your pick of hundreds of options in the PlayStore.
The simple maybe a bit harder. Samsung really did dumb things down on their devices. (apple of Android)
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Yeah that's true, I can't believe all these apps on here on my PRIV are like all downloaded from the Google Play. They really got into te agreement that they were using android on their phone.

LuisAGee said:
Yeah that's true, I can't believe all these apps on here on my PRIV are like all downloaded from the Google Play. They really got into te agreement that they were using android on their phone.
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Not sure what you're trying to communicate here but I especially love the fact that BlackBerry is actively trying to bring the best they have in smartphone tech to the Android platform.
I don't find it complicated at all. In fact I find out exactly the opposite. The shortcuts they add to the launcher & keyboard alone have saved me tremendous amounts of time. I admit I send allot of emails & text messages but I actually like to work on my phone [emoji1]
I think you hit it in the spot when you pointed out that you never really liked stock Android which is not really a BlackBerry thing. Sure they could have done more to customize the interface like Samsung did with Touchwiz but until the Note 5 came out I really hated how slow & laggy Touchwiz made my past Samsung phones. It made my a Note 4 upgrade to lollipop so slow I had to wipe the phone & go back to kitkat.
I'd also recommend getting Chronos widgets from the Playstore. They have a great time, date, calendar combo widget.
Don't get me wrong because I think the Priv is far from perfect. I would have really preferred the following items
* removable battery
* fingerprint scanner
* DTek software that could actually block application permissions so that I have total control over my personal info
* more control over the launcher functions like the bottom screen gestures
* more control over the edge screen options & functionality
* more control over the productivity tools
* Developer Edition Priv hardware with unlocked bootloader & root access so XDA can help fix the things preventing the Priv from being the must-have smartphone device it can be!
* the rest of the missing BB7.1 & BB10 missing features & gestures [emoji1]

TechKnowGrappler said:
Not sure what you're trying to communicate here but I especially love the fact that BlackBerry is actively trying to bring the best they have in smartphone tech to the Android platform.
I don't find it complicated at all. In fact I find out exactly the opposite. The shortcuts they add to the launcher & keyboard alone have saved me tremendous amounts of time. I admit I send allot of emails & text messages but I actually like to work on my phone [emoji1]
I think you hit it in the spot when you pointed out that you never really liked stock Android which is not really a BlackBerry thing. Sure they could have done more to customize the interface like Samsung did with Touchwiz but until the Note 5 came out I really hated how slow & laggy Touchwiz made my past Samsung phones. It made my a Note 4 upgrade to lollipop so slow I had to wipe the phone & go back to kitkat.
I'd also recommend getting Chronos widgets from the Playstore. They have a great time, date, calendar combo widget.
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Nvm youre right, Im starting to get used to this phone but theres alot of stuff I have questions for. Do you know where the screen shots go because I can not find them on photos. I just really wish the phone had a removable battery and it wouldve been perfect but oh well I just ordered a Auckey portable charger and Auckey fast charger and Ima see how that goes. Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.

LuisAGee said:
Nvm youre right, Im starting to get used to this phone but theres alot of stuff I have questions for. Do you know where the screen shots go because I can not find them on photos. I just really wish the phone had a removable battery and it wouldve been perfect but oh well I just ordered a Auckey portable charger and Auckey fast charger and Ima see how that goes. Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.
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You can view screenshots through Photos. Click on the three lines at the top left and then you can change the view to device files. You'll then see your screenshots.
I don't think you can set the home and back buttons to always on which is probably a good thing the next time you go watch a video or some other action that might have those in your view.

LuisAGee said:
Nvm youre right, Im starting to get used to this phone but theres alot of stuff I have questions for. Do you know where the screen shots go because I can not find them on photos. I just really wish the phone had a removable battery and it wouldve been perfect but oh well I just ordered a Auckey portable charger and Auckey fast charger and Ima see how that goes. Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.
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Screenshots go into the subfolder called screenshots that is under the pictures folder
Pictures/Screenshots
I loaded & use the ES file manager app for all my needs
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LuisAGee said:
Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
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Not sure what you mean here. Mine stays up unless I am in an app that does full screen mode like YouTube or the Gallery in full screen picture mode.

LuisAGee said:
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.
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I couldn't agree more [emoji16]

Blackberry's first update.
How are you guys liking the first update?

TechKnowGrappler said:
Not sure what you mean here. Mine stays up unless I am in an app that does full screen mode like YouTube or the Gallery in full screen picture mode.
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And even if you're in an app that's full screen, if you swipe up/in from the bottom of the device, the buttons appear again for use.
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How are you guys liking the first update?
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So far, it's a great improvement on all fronts, of particular note, the issue with multiple keypresses on the PKB has been resolved, so now I can truly touch type again at speed without fear.

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And even if you're in an app that's full screen, if you swipe up/in from the bottom of the device, the buttons appear again for use.
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I don't know of a way to do exactly what you're looking for but what I have done as a work around is use an app called All in One Gestures to setup gestures that I use to initiate a Home, Back, Last App navigations by swiping the edges & corners of the screen
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How are you guys liking the first update?
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My Priv has been working much better after this update
I was having trouble with writing to my ext sdcard with exfat but after the update all my issues have disappeared

TechKnowGrappler said:
I don't know of a way to do exactly what you're looking for but what I have done as a work around is use an app called All in One Gestures to setup gestures that I use to initiate a Home, Back, Last App navigations by swiping the edges & corners of the screen
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Ah, I wasn't directing my comment at you, it was for the original person you responded to. It's a native Android function since... I think kitkat to do the swipe in from the bottom edge of the screen to bring up the softkeys whenever you're in fullscreen modes.

Thank You Samsung.. A small MM review

Im really enjoying the new MM 601 update on my S6 Edge...
This is entirely from my own Opinion, so feel free to chime in with any comments..
In the beginning.. the edge features were very limited to a Night Clock, a gimmicky multi-coloured contacts ringer and a few tickers, but now after the 601 update.. the Edge has become so much more worth it over the vanilla S6..
FINALLY, SS have included access to all apps to use on your side swipe edge.. like the Note Edge and the Edge plus..
Sleep battery life has been improved .. (although im still testing this)
Theyve removed more apps for you to add yourself.
(S6 always had this) Nice to see SS are now including MS Office apps as an option to Google Drive (OneDrive suite is far better for using it on any device)
Finally, we now have Shutter Speed (Edge Plus) and improved camera and UI features..
The 4G modem reception has been inproved, here in the UK on EE, I was getting 0 or 1 bar on 4G, now Im getting 3 - 4 bars.. which is great, but this varies from region to region, but here its better.
Sadly though, as of yesterdays edge app update 28/2.. they removed the Night Clock.. Why?- EDIT: Its in settings, not Edge, my bad
Your stuck with Yahoo news, so far I havent found away to change to another app..
Theyve removed the nice Lock screen swipe effects, not a biggy IMO, but I liked it..
So all in all, Ide say that the MM update is a great update to the S6 Edge and IMO, makes the Edge a much more attractive buy over the S6, so great work Samsung... BUT
Its took Samsung a whole year to get here, which IMO, these features shouldve been in the Edge since 511, I understand they had to make the Edge Plus
(we didnt get the Note 5 here in UK) an attractive buy as well, and obviously.. as the S6 has now been replaced by the S7, theyre giving the Edge everything..
but really SS.. a Whole Year,
Anyway Good work Samsung..

You can find Night clock on display settings not on edge screen

scorpion112 said:
You can find Night clock on display settings not on edge screen
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Night clock freeze and dont show real time after 2 hours
When i wake up screen it show again correct hour
Is there a solution for that
I am on 6.0.1 full stock

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You can find Night clock on display settings not on edge screen
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Yep, I found that again after checking settings , but for some reason after installing the edge update.. the night clock wouldnt work.. I found by restarting the phone.. it was fine again..

arfaoui said:
Night clock freeze and dont show real time after 2 hours
When i wake up screen it show again correct hour
Is there a solution for that
I am on 6.0.1 full stock
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Goto settings > Turn Night Clock OFF > restart phone > Reset your Night Clock up again...
Fixed it for me..

Samaung finally listened to my edge feedback!
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It really is a good update, first time I've been impressed by Samsung and an Android update.

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It really is a good update, first time I've been impressed by Samsung and an Android update.
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Agreed.. Its the first Ive ever been Impressed by a Samsung update EVER... I know when Android switched to the ART file system in Lollipop, it was a huge improvment for everyone.. but Sammy have just struggled with performance.. until now.
Plus with the likes of One Plus, Motorolla, LG and now newbies Huawei offering some better and cheaper alternatives... Samsung cant really afford to just push out half baked updates, they gotta get their game face on... and lets just hope they dont try and pull another Apple with the S7 (SD Card back and bigger battery) coz it might just cost them even more than just a few lower quarter sales like it did with the S6..

What is the status of memory consumption in MM update?

After playing with themes stuck at bootloop and after hard reset I do not have the same ui experience as before.
My device turns a little lugy....

Is it just me but the photos I took from Lollipop is much better than from the MM?
Its a little grainy when I upgraded to MM. Anyone experiencing the same thing?

Hi,
after the update i dont have the option to have weather on the lockscreen, neither the steps and google now on tap doesnt seems to be present. Anyone with the same problems ? Any Fix ?
I'm on Vodafone RO.
Thanks

ijustzeke said:
Is it just me but the photos I took from Lollipop is much better than from the MM?
Its a little grainy when I upgraded to MM. Anyone experiencing the same thing?
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Cant say Ive noticed this.. flashed MM out of the box so..
Its supposed to be a batter camera experience all round.. I read anyway (Taken from the Edge Plus).. we now have Shutter Speed and a Kelvin (ala LG G4) for White Balance, which incidentally, they set it the wrong way round.. hehe, nice one SS. (slide it into the Blue section and the screen goes Yellow or warmer.. and vice versa), thats easily fixed though
Your right JurGGen.. No weather, although if you goto settings > Lock Screen and Security > Notifications on LockScreen .. Weather is there in the list, but maybe it only shows when theres Snow or Rain.
Theres a Weather App in the Samsung Apps Store.. Its under Updates.. ... find it under LockScreen security.,.. That might help, but dont know... Never been one for Weather on Lockscreen.

Anyone else simply happy not rooting this phone?

When I bought this phone two weeks ago I was excited at the prospect of rooting it so that I could install my "goto" root apps.
I pondered it for several days and was about to root yet another device and I changed my mind. I find I am enjoying Oreo just the way it is and for me this is a nice change. I tend to root/jailbreak everything immediately. In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
Anyone else enjoy this phone without tinkering with or modifying it?

Yep same here, been having this from last year and half, the verizon variant.. Though rooting this is pain and all but just like you I was too. Much into rooting and flashing.
This phone as it is, is awesome enough.
But i liked nougot more
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It is an amazing device. The only reason I rooted it was to remove the screen retention with a custom kernel and ckal support. :good:

One thing, is there any way to increase refresh rate without rooting? Just thought about this for some reason.

With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
They've also fixed the issue of 44.1Khz audio being output as 48Khz through the DAC.
Could also be placebo but I find the DAC to perform better now on Oreo.
I'd love to have zero shutter lag & stereo speakers but that's just a mild annoyance hardly anything to worry about.
The weird thing is that my performance have seeming increased going to Oreo from having the performance mods on Nougat.
The left picture is on Nougat and the other one on Oreo.

Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.

Yeah, I don't need to root this thing either. I have had this almost a year now. Upgrade to Oreo, and now happier then ever.
May be in future once we Pie ROM with second screen feature, I will think about it.
I used to have a Samsung Note 5, and rooted and flash plenty of times. But, it was a pain to keep up with updates. I learned my lesson to not root Android.

DelphinusMinor said:
Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
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I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
Not rooted as my variant H990DS does not qualifiy for bootloader unlock provided by LG
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DelphinusMinor said:
In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
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I imagine this is how most get out of the rooting game.
There has to be a serious need to do so and not just for the sake of it.
Though i still believe unless you gain admin rights over your device you do not own it.

One Twelve said:
I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
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Thank you. I am going to check this and a few others out.
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First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...

B_in_Denver said:
First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
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If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g

This is the first time I've rooted a phone for a while, due to the screen retention issue. Else, stock or AOSP unrooted is enough considering most features are available these days

zeusofyork said:
If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
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Thanks for replying, I've been trying to get into the field service menu for the last couple of days but will probably have to call VZW and try to convince them to give it to me.
Re: Xposed, since that requires root, that was the one reason I miss having root (Xposed to be able to force 3g, that's how I did it on my old rooted phones).

3mL said:
With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.

runningslow said:
That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).

For me I had had enough with screen burn and rooted this phone in last December.

3mL said:
Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.

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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.

3mL said:
Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
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See, mine will show retention minutes after being booted. For example, after a fresh install of a ROM, be it LOS or Stock, I'll start noticing ghosting before I can get into the color settings or Kernel Adiutor to make the adjustments... that's just from the time in TWRP and the booting. I guess everyone's phone it a little different.